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Ryan Mallett

cuppacoffee said:
Who is Drea Avent?

And what player did he/she talk to?

I find it difficult to give any credence to these kinds of reports.

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honest...
 
DBCooper said:
Maybe our O-line will block for him.
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One of the big problems with Fitzpatrick, as Playoffs has pointed out in the past, was his inability to see over the O and D lines because of his height. And I pointed out that on top of that, the release off point of his passes have been low....at ear level. All this is why you see him ignore the middle of the field (when receivers there are wide open), get so many batted passes, and has no ability to quick pass over the rushing D when the pressure comes from up the middle (especially when the pass protection breaks down).

Mallet being at least 4 inches taller than Fitzpatrick should be an instant gift to improve the outcomes in the aforementioned situations............which have thus far been extensive in numbers.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
One of the big problems with Fitzpatrick, as Playoffs has pointed out in the past, was his inability to see over the O and D lines because of his height. And I pointed out that on top of that, the release off point of his passes have been low....at ear level. All this is why you see him ignore the middle of the field (when receivers there are wide open), get so many batted passes, and has no ability to quick pass over the rushing D when the pressure comes from up the middle (especially when the pass protection breaks down).

Mallet being at least 4 inches taller than Fitzpatrick should be an instant gift to improve the outcomes in the aforementioned situations............which have thus far been extensive in numbers.
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o plzzz Fitz is taller then Keenum and almost has tall has yates I don't think that was the problem
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
One of the big problems with Fitzpatrick, as Playoffs has pointed out in the past, was his inability to see over the O and D lines because of his height. And I pointed out that on top of that, the release off point of his passes have been low....at ear level. All this is why you see him ignore the middle of the field (when receivers there are wide open), get so many batted passes, and has no ability to quick pass over the rushing D when the pressure comes from up the middle (especially when the pass protection breaks down).

Mallet being at least 4 inches taller than Fitzpatrick should be an instant gift to improve the outcomes in the aforementioned situations............which have thus far been extensive in numbers.
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Agreed

There was a video posted just a short time ago (might even be in this thread) showing Mallet's release point being at around 8' in the air. Fitz, if he's releasing at ear level is under 6'?

I just don't even begin to see how this isn't a huge improvement and I'm hoping better visibility + higher release point = better pass distribution and fewer batted/blocked balls.
 
Hervoyel said:
Agreed

There was a video posted just a short time ago (might even be in this thread) showing Mallet's release point being at around 8' in the air. Fitz, if he's releasing at ear level is under 6'?

I just don't even begin to see how this isn't a huge improvement and I'm hoping better visibility + higher release point = better pass distribution and fewer batted/blocked balls.
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I'm guessing Mallett scrambles away from sacks about as well as a sloth does. That's probably not going to be very good with how crappy our pass protection has been the last few weeks.
 
b0ng said:
I'm guessing Mallett scrambles away from sacks about as well as a sloth does. That's probably not going to be very good with how crappy our pass protection has been the last few weeks.
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You should probably look at a highlight video or two. Go nuts on YouTube and look at them all.

Descriptions of his immobility run rampant and I'm not seeing it. He's not a running QB but he's not a statue either. Not at all.
 
Hervoyel said:
You should probably look at a highlight video or two. Go nuts on YouTube and look at them all.

Descriptions of his immobility run rampant and I'm not seeing it. He's not a running QB but he's not a statue either. Not at all.
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This video you posted earlier in the thread shows a great look at his quick release, and shows he's not the statue in the pocket that many think

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Hervoyel said:
Maybe they'll quit the brain-farts (false starts for example) and quit digging us into holes and killing drives. I'm not worried about the blocking. A QB who can get the ball down the field and make teams pay for blitzing him will do wonders for pass protection. Watching Brown last week lunge across the line I couldn't help but think "That's a guy who's wound way too tight. He's a Pro Bowl LT and he looks like Derrick Newton

A QB who sees the whole field and can process what's happening at the speed necessary to take advantage of what's there will appear to have plenty of time. Fitz doesn't do that. Brady does that. The questions is "Does Mallet do that?"

It's a question we would never be able to answer without seeing him out there playing in a real game. No amount of preseason pretend football will tell us that. It's really more important than his "Laser-Rocket Arm" or his height, or his "wheels". What's between a QB's ears is what matters most.
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Most of the false starts were most likely caused by the line's inability to understand Fitzpatrick in the huddle and at the line. All of his calls probably just too muffled by the beard to be understandable.
 
Hervoyel said:
You should probably look at a highlight video or two. Go nuts on YouTube and look at them all.

Descriptions of his immobility run rampant and I'm not seeing it. He's not a running QB but he's not a statue either. Not at all.
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He's plenty statuesque (Watched 2010 vs Auburn, 2011 Sugar Bowl). He can move around in the pocket, some, but he's not doing anything that makes me think he's going to be able to escape any kind of pass rushing threat with his legs. Hopefully he is more accurate than Fitz has been this season, but with how bad our O-line has been pass protecting, I'm not so sure he's going to be some kind of unmitigated success.

Brady can get away with being a statue in the pocket because he has a very high football IQ, and knows when to step up to avoid rushers, and knows how to get rid of the ball on time. When I watched Mallett's highlights I saw a guy with a real strong arm, who stared down his receivers, and looked as like he was in trouble if his OL broke down in pass protection.

Maybe I'm not the guy that you would want to converse with about Mallett, http://www.battleredblog.com/2014/9/3/6100837/the-film-room-ryan-mallett-houston-we-have-a-monster this article should fill some of you with delusions of grandeur until he actually takes some meaningful snaps.
 
b0ng said:
He's plenty statuesque (Watched 2010 vs Auburn, 2011 Sugar Bowl). He can move around in the pocket, some, but he's not doing anything that makes me think he's going to be able to escape any kind of pass rushing threat with his legs. Hopefully he is more accurate than Fitz has been this season, but with how bad our O-line has been pass protecting, I'm not so sure he's going to be some kind of unmitigated success.

Brady can get away with being a statue in the pocket because he has a very high football IQ, and knows when to step up to avoid rushers, and knows how to get rid of the ball on time. When I watched Mallett's highlights I saw a guy with a real strong arm, who stared down his receivers, and looked as like he was in trouble if his OL broke down in pass protection.

Maybe I'm not the guy that you would want to converse with about Mallett, http://www.battleredblog.com/2014/9/3/6100837/the-film-room-ryan-mallett-houston-we-have-a-monster this article should fill some of you with delusions of grandeur until he actually takes some meaningful snaps.
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He's not gonna run away from people that's true...

Have you watched the highlights of him from this preseason? He's matured, makes quick decisions and has a high enough IQ I think to get rid of the ball if necessary.
 
b0ng said:
He's plenty statuesque (Watched 2010 vs Auburn, 2011 Sugar Bowl). He can move around in the pocket, some, but he's not doing anything that makes me think he's going to be able to escape any kind of pass rushing threat with his legs. Hopefully he is more accurate than Fitz has been this season, but with how bad our O-line has been pass protecting, I'm not so sure he's going to be some kind of unmitigated success.

Brady can get away with being a statue in the pocket because he has a very high football IQ, and knows when to step up to avoid rushers, and knows how to get rid of the ball on time. When I watched Mallett's highlights I saw a guy with a real strong arm, who stared down his receivers, and looked as like he was in trouble if his OL broke down in pass protection.

Maybe I'm not the guy that you would want to converse with about Mallett, http://www.battleredblog.com/2014/9/3/6100837/the-film-room-ryan-mallett-houston-we-have-a-monster this article should fill some of you with delusions of grandeur until he actually takes some meaningful snaps.
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The Master has spoken :clown:

:rolleyes:
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
One of the big problems with Fitzpatrick, as Playoffs has pointed out in the past, was his inability to see over the O and D lines because of his height. And I pointed out that on top of that, the release off point of his passes have been low....at ear level. All this is why you see him ignore the middle of the field (when receivers there are wide open), get so many batted passes, and has no ability to quick pass over the rushing D when the pressure comes from up the middle (especially when the pass protection breaks down).

Mallet being at least 4 inches taller than Fitzpatrick should be an instant gift to improve the outcomes in the aforementioned situations............which have thus far been extensive in numbers.
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I hope so, Fitzpatrick had that scared look like he couldn't see anything but defenders.
 
Hervoyel said:
The Master has spoken :clown:

:rolleyes:
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It's okay herv, two people can watch the same video and come away with differing opinions. :heart:

JB said:
He's not gonna run away from people that's true...

Have you watched the highlights of him from this preseason? He's matured, makes quick decisions and has a high enough IQ I think to get rid of the ball if necessary.
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Unfortunately the highlights that are allowed on Youtube for NFL games are much much shorter and less informative than the college highlights available (which will show good and bad plays). The best one is a game vs Jacksonville in 2011 which isn't just a 2 minute highlight, (it's about 9 minutes long) but it shows some of the stuff I've seen from his college tape. Not much movement after his drop unless it's a designed playaction, has about as much speed as a 2009-2010 Schaub, mostly timing routes thrown. One of the things that bugged me about him is that I just don't see him turning his head going through progressions (Again, these are short clips so not all the information is readily available). He has way more plays where he is locked into a WR from the snap than plays where he actively looks for the open man.

Schaub has certainly been described as statuesque around these parts, and he certainly was capable of escaping some sacks here and there (That ability really broke down after his lisfranc injury). I'd say Mallett has about the same mobility, but Kubiak's scheme helped with that a lot. I'm not so sure Bill O'Briens scheme is going to be as friendly to a guy who looks like he's running in molasses.
 
when someone says statue I think of a QB that just crumbles when the rush comes, can barely even slide in the pockets...when they do try to move around they look completely awkward...

Mallett has shown some decent evasion in the pocket.
 
xtruroyaltyx said:
when someone says statue I think of a QB that just crumbles when the rush comes, can barely even slide in the pockets...when they do try to move around they look completely awkward...

Mallett has shown some decent evasion in the pocket.
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you know how it is, for some folks if the QB isn't Fran Tarkenton, Randall Cunningham, Steve Young, and RG3 all rolled into one, he's a "statue".
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ObsiWan said:
you know how it is, for some folks if the QB isn't Fran Tarkenton, Randall Cunningham, Steve Young, and RG3 all rolled into one, he's a "statue".
:kitten:
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Likewise, if a guy isn't throwing for 300 yds and 2-3 TD's the guy sucks.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
One of the big problems with Fitzpatrick, as Playoffs has pointed out in the past, was his inability to see over the O and D lines because of his height. And I pointed out that on top of that, the release off point of his passes have been low....at ear level. All this is why you see him ignore the middle of the field (when receivers there are wide open), get so many batted passes, and has no ability to quick pass over the rushing D when the pressure comes from up the middle (especially when the pass protection breaks down).

Mallet being at least 4 inches taller than Fitzpatrick should be an instant gift to improve the outcomes in the aforementioned situations............which have thus far been extensive in numbers.
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Good post Doc.... everyone should remember this when we get heavier into draft talk & the height issue comes up. No, you don't have to be tall to be a QB in the NFL, but these are the kinds of things you have to overcome if you are not.

Norg said:
o plzzz Fitz is taller then Keenum and almost has tall has yates I don't think that was the problem
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Two things.

  1. Case was a better scramler than Fitz... barely, but better
  2. Case is unemployed

& just to be mean, Case didn't do a whole lot across the middle of the field either. He was much better on the deep outs.
 
b0ng said:
Maybe I'm not the guy that you would want to converse with about Mallett, http://www.battleredblog.com/2014/9/3/6100837/the-film-room-ryan-mallett-houston-we-have-a-monster this article should fill some of you with delusions of grandeur until he actually takes some meaningful snaps.
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I know there's a lot of excitement about starting Mallet, but I don't think anyone is really deluded about the odds that Mallet is a true franchise QB who's been wasting away on New England's bench.

Yeah, we're all focused on the good side of this "what if" but we know. The point is that we're moving forward, at least it feels like it. We're not stuck on Fitz.
 
thunderkyss said:
I know there's a lot of excitement about starting Mallet, but I don't think anyone is really deluded about the odds that Mallet is a true franchise QB who's been wasting away on New England's bench.

Yeah, we're all focused on the good side of this "what if" but we know. The point is that we're moving forward, at least it feels like it. We're not stuck on Fitz.
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yep. There is hope where there was none before.

And, if nothing else, this will give us something to talk about in the off-season with 7 games of Mallet as starting QB. Hopefully, more than 7 games, if ya' know what I mean...
 
Double Barrel said:
yep. There is hope where there was none before.

And, if nothing else, this will give us something to talk about in the off-season with 7 games of Mallet as starting QB. Hopefully, more than 7 games, if ya' know what I mean...
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These points are definitely true and whether one likes Mallett or not they are probably tuning into the Browns game to see what he is all about. I have hope for Mallett as well but my hope is that the passing game isnt the train wreck it has been so far.

Its weird seeing a guy like Orton come in for Buffalo and revitalize their offense while the Texans have to pin their hopes on Mallett and or Savage. I hate football. I love football.
 
hey here is thought, if Mallett doesn't hold onto the ball like Crapatrick did and HAVE to use his feet because he has bad decision making skills and has to run for his life, then the whole "statue" argument would then become a moot point....

just saying...
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
One of the big problems with Fitzpatrick, as Playoffs has pointed out in the past, was his inability to see over the O and D lines because of his height. And I pointed out that on top of that, the release off point of his passes have been low....at ear level. All this is why you see him ignore the middle of the field (when receivers there are wide open), get so many batted passes, and has no ability to quick pass over the rushing D when the pressure comes from up the middle (especially when the pass protection breaks down).

Mallet being at least 4 inches taller than Fitzpatrick should be an instant gift to improve the outcomes in the aforementioned situations............which have thus far been extensive in numbers.
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God I hope we start going to our TEs over the middle now.
 
Right decision, right time. Fitz wasn't improving, holding ball too long/ wasn't keeping his head up in the rush, too many interceptions/batted balls, very inefficient

Mallett looked good in the preseason video I saw. I'm not worried about what he did 2 years ago or college.....this is the NFL *not for long* league. So, if he can get the ball out in 3-4 seconds consistently and spread it around....he should have the tools. He has limited mobility, so he needs to know his limits and stay within 'em. 10 other guys need to step up too.....5 big time.
 
I think the playbook changes. Just as the ravens playbook look different than the texans because of the qb arm talent. I thought the texans shouldve drafted mallett in the 3rd rd when he came out. If youre going to have a midline passer, at least have one with great arm talent like mallett. I also think there will be more max protect to allow andre and crew to stretch the field more. Andre can now get open on those deep in cuts. Not only that, teams will respect the threat or a ball going over their head. Since none of the te's are athletic threats, the might as well late release to make sure the line is holding up.
 
leebigeztx said:
I think the playbook changes. Just as the ravens playbook look different than the texans because of the qb arm talent. I thought the texans shouldve drafted mallett in the 3rd rd when he came out. If youre going to have a midline passer, at least have one with great arm talent like mallett. I also think there will be more max protect to allow andre and crew to stretch the field more. Andre can now get open on those deep in cuts. Not only that, teams will respect the threat or a ball going over their head. Since none of the te's are athletic threats, the might as well late release to make sure the line is holding up.
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sorry for the flashback but Texans traded with New England to grab Brandon Harris in 2nd. New England took Ridley & Mallet back to back in 3rd. Then via trade down in 5th Marcus Cannon who had a medical condition but 2nd rd. talent. At least this time downside risk is lower.
 
leebigeztx said:
I think the playbook changes. Just as the ravens playbook look different than the texans because of the qb arm talent. I thought the texans shouldve drafted mallett in the 3rd rd when he came out. If youre going to have a midline passer, at least have one with great arm talent like mallett. I also think there will be more max protect to allow andre and crew to stretch the field more. Andre can now get open on those deep in cuts. Not only that, teams will respect the threat or a ball going over their head. Since none of the te's are athletic threats, the might as well late release to make sure the line is holding up.
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I agree with this. But I would wager we will see the Browns blitz the hell out of Mallett to see if they can rattle him. If it works, expect to see a lot more if it from other opponents. My hope is he can just get rid of it when it's not there and move on to the next play. Unless of course that starts piling up 3 and out's. I'm trying to remain positive, but I can see both sides of the argument, and I will be on the edge of my seat come the Browns game.

Best of luck Ryan Mallett!
 
Nitrofish said:
I agree with this. But I would wager we will see the Browns blitz the hell out of Mallett to see if they can rattle him. If it works, expect to see a lot more if it from other opponents. My hope is he can just get rid of it when it's not there and move on to the next play. Unless of course that starts piling up 3 and out's. I'm trying to remain positive, but I can see both sides of the argument, and I will be on the edge of my seat come the Browns game.

Best of luck Ryan Mallett!
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Hopefully OB has a few wrinkles to burn them a time or two early to put a stop to that chit!
 
It's about time Ryan Mallett was put in as quarterback!I said a while ago that Mallett will help the Texans win their division.The whole league will be talking about Mallett In a few weeks.i'm a patriots fan who has Watch the mallet for five years.you now have your quarterback!
 
Trouble said:
It's about time Ryan Mallett was put in as quarterback!I said a while ago that Mallett will help the Texans win their division.The whole league will be talking about Mallett In a few weeks.i'm a patriots fan who has Watch the mallet for five years.you now have your quarterback!
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Were you by chance a Razorback fan six years ago?
 
thunderkyss said:
:notsureifserious:

Case was cut two weeks ago.
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yes he was cut but as of Oct. 30th, he is with the Rams

The Rams have brought back Case Keenum.
St. Louis signed Keenum, the ex-Texans quarterback, to its practice squad on Thursday, according to the NFL’s transaction log.
The Rams waived Keenum on Tuesday. When he cleared waivers Wednesday, he was eligible to be added to the practice squad.
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who knew he had P/S eligibility?
 
The Pencil Neck said:
We talked about this during preseason.

With the recent changes in PS eligibility, Case still has PS eligibility.
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I sort of recall the conversation, but I forgot the details on how Case became eligible again. No worries, I'll look it up
 
thunderkyss said:
I stand corrected..... thank you.
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Doesn't the practice squad count as employment?

I mean, mine was just a joke (not that funny I admit it) but maybe my understanding of how practice squad works is wrong :)

I was actually looking for a news saying he is employed as car vendor or something like that, that's how I found out the practice squad thing

that would have been funnier :D
 
Probably already discussed but in CASE it hasn't did anyone hear 610 radio interview with a New England person that covered the team that Mallet is the slowest QB he has EVER seen even compared to MS. The other disturbing info was that the person said he is not even close to being an athlete and he came in with one of the worst bodies he has ever seen in NFL or something to that effect. I will definitely be watching the game to see BOBs choice for QB.
I will be interested to see if he even lasts the whole game. Why didn't the Texans Rick/BOB feel they needed to IMPROVE the QB position. I still wonder if they think they bought more time on the job by doing nothing or worse at QB position. The other thing the person said is everyone knew the Patriots weren't going to keep Mallet on the team. Then why the hell did we trade for him?
 
Nitrofish said:
I agree with this. But I would wager we will see the Browns blitz the hell out of Mallett to see if they can rattle him. If it works, expect to see a lot more if it from other opponents. My hope is he can just get rid of it when it's not there and move on to the next play. Unless of course that starts piling up 3 and out's. I'm trying to remain positive, but I can see both sides of the argument, and I will be on the edge of my seat come the Browns game.

Best of luck Ryan Mallett!
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^^^^
This combined with the Browns pass defense being in the top 10 for allowing the lowest completion pct should provide a good test.
 
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