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Ryan Mallett

bah007 said:
Would you be satisfied if we put in Mallet and finished 5-11 or 6-10?
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I don't care if we go 4-12 IF we start seeing some of the game planning and in game adjustments we were told about, we are taking shots in between the numbers, get the TEs involved and open up the passing game beyond 20 yds.

There are two things I want to see over the remainder of the season, more of the offense/less scared coaching and what we have at QB. Either one would be an improvement even if not reflected in Ws.
 
Speedy said:
Of course not, but then at least we know Mallett is probably not the answer. We already know Fitzpatrick isn't.
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But no one expects Fitzpatrick to be. He's just supposed to toss the ol pigskin around until we get our QB of the future. So if OB knows Mallet isn't, then what? Still want to see him on the field?
 
thunderkyss said:
But no one expects Fitzpatrick to be. He's just supposed to toss the ol pigskin around until we get our QB of the future. So if OB knows Mallet isn't, then what? Still want to see him on the field?
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Yeah I do. If Mallett sucks too, then what difference does it make? Other than you find out whether you re-sign the guy or not. Who knew Aaron Rodgers was going to make people forget about Favre after 3 seasons sitting behind Favre? Hell, Steve McNair held a clipboard for Chris freaking Chandler for 2 years.

Mallett has been holding a clipboard for Brady for 3 years. No one knows, including O'Brien, what kind of player he's going to be. We ALL know what Fitzpatrick is though. We've had 10 seasons of that guy.

So if Mallett comes in and stinks the joint up, so what? Fitz was going to do that any way.
 
Speedy said:
Who knew Aaron Rodgers was going to make people forget about Favre after 3 seasons sitting behind Favre?
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Small follow up on this, Rogers looked bad in his spot duty the 1st two years and then he had one good game in his 3rd. Then he came out slinging in his 4th.
 
Speedy said:
Yeah I do. If Mallett sucks too, then what difference does it make? Other than you find out whether you re-sign the guy or not. Who knew Aaron Rodgers was going to make people forget about Favre after 3 seasons sitting behind Favre? Hell, Steve McNair held a clipboard for Chris freaking Chandler for 2 years.

Mallett has been holding a clipboard for Brady for 3 years. No one knows, including O'Brien, what kind of player he's going to be. We ALL know what Fitzpatrick is though. We've had 10 seasons of that guy.

So if Mallett comes in and stinks the joint up, so what? Fitz was going to do that any way.
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I'm just saying, what if....

Maybe Godsey was wrong, maybe OB rubberstamped the deal because Godsey "knew" that Mallet had what it took then after a week sitting with Mallet he realizes Mallet wasted his time sitting behind Tom Brady & doesn't understand the offense at all.... doesn't grasp the basic concepts.

I'm just playing devil's advocate here. In this scenario, we know we finish 5-11, or 6-10 & OB knows he can't work with Mallet for whatever reason. What's the point of starting him?
 
thunderkyss said:
I'm just saying, what if....

Maybe Godsey was wrong, maybe OB rubberstamped the deal because Godsey "knew" that Mallet had what it took then after a week sitting with Mallet he realizes Mallet wasted his time sitting behind Tom Brady & doesn't understand the offense at all.... doesn't grasp the basic concepts.

I'm just playing devil's advocate here. In this scenario, we know we finish 5-11, or 6-10 & OB knows he can't work with Mallet for whatever reason. What's the point of starting him?
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What's the point in waking each morning? You know you will sleep again that night.

What's the point in breathing? You know you'll stop eventually.

you try to be the best you can everyday. Otherwise there is no point
 
JB said:
What's the point in waking each morning? You know you will sleep again that night.

What's the point in breathing? You know you'll stop eventually.

you try to be the best you can everyday. Otherwise there is no point
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You're right, we should've kept Schaub at least until the trade deadline.
 
JB said:
Schaub lost his confidence and his team... even Schaub thought he sucked
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But you don't "know" until you try right? That's what you were telling me. If OB doesn't think Mallet is going to be a franchise QB, what's the point of putting him in there if we know we're going to be 5-11 or 6-10?

Again, in this scenario, we know that OB doesn't like what he sees from Mallet & we know we are not going to finish better than 6-10. Just like you know you're going to go to sleep some time after you wake up.

I can understand infantrycak's answer... if we're going to start running this "multiple" offense, I'm all for it, but it don't matter who the QB is in that case. We're still going to be no better than 6-10 & we still won't have our QB of the future, but at least the rest of the team is learning the offense.

We're not even getting that now. When we do find our QB, the whole team is going to have to learn our offense. It would be nice, if we could just plug that QB in when we find him & only have to worry about teaching it to him.
 
417Texan said:
Scahub yes he sucked but signing Fitz went into a new level of suck.
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Schaub wasn't all that bad but then he became "suck". Not his fault, not our fault. It happens.

Signing Fitz was like agreeing in the prenup that you're OK with suck and in fact that's exactly what you're looking for in a QB.
 
thunderkyss said:
But you don't "know" until you try right? That's what you were telling me. If OB doesn't think Mallet is going to be a franchise QB, what's the point of putting him in there if we know we're going to be 5-11 or 6-10?

Again, in this scenario, we know that OB doesn't like what he sees from Mallet & we know we are not going to finish better than 6-10. Just like you know you're going to go to sleep some time after you wake up.

I can understand infantrycak's answer... if we're going to start running this "multiple" offense, I'm all for it, but it don't matter who the QB is in that case. We're still going to be no better than 6-10 & we still won't have our QB of the future, but at least the rest of the team is learning the offense.

We're not even getting that now. When we do find our QB, the whole team is going to have to learn our offense. It would be nice, if we could just plug that QB in when we find him & only have to worry about teaching it to him.
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The point I was making was that we don't know... We could put him in and finish 11-5.
Or we could put him in and finish 4-12 and don't offer him a contract
 
Hervoyel said:
Schaub wasn't all that bad but then he became "suck". Not his fault, not our fault. It happens.

Signing Fitz was like agreeing in the prenup that you're OK with suck and in fact that's exactly what you're looking for in a QB.
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Think we could trade Shitzpatrick to the Raiders for Schaub? LOL
 
JB said:
The point I was making was that we don't know... We could put him in and finish 11-5.
Or we could put him in and finish 4-12 and don't offer him a contract
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Right... but that has nothing to do with the post you quoted as I was responding to the line of "if we end up 5-11 or 6-10"
 
False Start said:
TK... are you related to Fitzpatrick? ;) :littlelol:
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Absolutely not. Just seeing where you stand. Fitz didn't play bad enough yesterday to get canned. He played like a game manager is supposed to.

If you're ready to "see what you've got on Mallet" then you're just giving up on the season. & that's fine for the fans... I just don't want my HC to be giving up when it's possible that 9-7 can still win the division.

If he does, then you can't fault Andre for being disenchanted (not that you do).

I don't think Fitz played well enough to keep his job, so you might as well see if you can win with Mallet.

Sounds like we're saying the same thing, but we're not.

It doesn't matter. We both want the same thing...
 
thunderkyss said:
Fitz didn't play bad enough yesterday to get canned.

If you're ready to "see what you've got on Mallet" then you're just giving up on the season.

I don't think Fitz played well enough to keep his job
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Sorry TK, I just can't figure out where you are...

You're all over the place


:pop:

:kitten:
 
thunderkyss said:
Absolutely not. Just seeing where you stand. Fitz didn't play bad enough yesterday to get canned. He played like a game manager is supposed to.

If you're ready to "see what you've got on Mallet" then you're just giving up on the season. & that's fine for the fans... I just don't want my HC to be giving up when it's possible that 9-7 can still win the division.

If he does, then you can't fault Andre for being disenchanted (not that you do).

I don't think Fitz played well enough to keep his job, so you might as well see if you can win with Mallet.

Sounds like we're saying the same thing, but we're not.

It doesn't matter. We both want the same thing...
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9-7 wont even sniff the division lead. Colts are going 11-5 minimum.
 
bah007 said:
Just trying to figure out where everyone is coming from.

There seems to be two groups within the fan base right now:

1. Those who have given up on the season and want Mallett to play so we can see what he's got.

2. Those who think making a change at QB will give us a better chance to win now, despite the fact that Mallett has so far been unable to beat out Fitz, who we all know for sure is terrible.

Put me in camp #1. I'd like to think that O'Brien wouldn't be throwing Fitz out there every week if he thought Mallett was better. Having said that, I don't think this is a playoff team with either guy, but going into next year I'd like to see Mallett get some playing time.
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im in the this season is over and lets pepare for next season but in mallet and hell put in savage for the last 3 games

and also let our 2nd stringers get some playing time heck some of them are already getting some time has is with

Mohammd ,Hal , Bouye , and various other who have seen time
 
Norg said:
im in the this season is over and lets pepare for next season but in mallet and hell put in savage for the last 3 games

and also let our 2nd stringers get some playing time heck some of them are already getting some time has is with

Mohammd ,Hal , Bouye , and various other who have seen time
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understand your viewpoint, some time this season O'Brian must measure his QB development as group to proceed based off game tape. Those you mentioned have played mostly because of injury's, out of necessity. Bill will pull the trigger when they are ready of give Texans best chance to win now, he is very clear about that. So unless Fitzpatrick suffers some kind of injury, expect that tough, gritty bearded fishermen to still go catch his limit of snaps available. Best course of action is to let it organically processes itself. Short term maybe Mallet but long term I think its Savage, Fitz is just holding the reigns until somebody or someone steps up to meet Bills expectations.
 
JB said:
The post you quoted didn't mention anything about record
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If you follow it back to the beginning of the discussion, it's there. That's what it was in reply to a what if that started several posts before the one you quoted.
 
thunderkyss said:
If you follow it back to the beginning of the discussion, it's there. That's what it was in reply to a what if that started several posts before the one you quoted.
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I went by the post you quoted... I'm supposed to go back to the beginning in order to make sense of what you say?

:kitten:
 
JB said:
I went by the post you quoted... I'm supposed to go back to the beginning in order to make sense of what you say?

:kitten:
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Only if you think I'm arguing for Fitz start.

:bat:
 
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Ian Rapoport @RapSheet · 6h 6 hours ago
One important factor as #Texans head into the bye week mulling their QB options: Veteran WR Andre Johnson is a big fan of Ryan Mallett.
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I don't know who his source is, other than the typical "insider."
 
Isn't both the offense and defense still learning the playbook? just a theory I have on Ryan mallet maybe he knows way too much of the offensive playbook for our offensive to handle as they're still learning it just my 2 pence
 
could everybody quit it with all this QB whining?

that is so 20013/14

we should whine about injuries, that would be much more 2011/12

:kitten:
 
It's going to be interesting to see what we do at QB in the offseason. The odds are we'll win a couple few more games with either of the two QBS. If Mallett isn't the answer our draft position will likely put a 'potential' franchise QB out of reach. So, what will we do? Trade? Extend the Fitz 10 years?
 
QuiGonGinNTonic said:
Isn't both the offense and defense still learning the playbook? just a theory I have on Ryan mallet maybe he knows way too much of the offensive playbook for our offensive to handle as they're still learning it just my 2 pence
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If the coaches have thrown that much out there where the guys are still learning.then this wss truly a throw away season and if the playbook is that dang complicated then forget about drafting and using rookies in their first year. Esp with all the veterans "strugglng " to learn it. If this theory is true then the Texans coaching regime is running at a snails pace again. Then we are in trouble ..salary cap will catch up and players will leave/retire before we get everyone on the same page.

At least kubiak knew when to dial down the offense.this isnt a horse and buggy league

In theory. We run at a snails pace we get left behind......again...
 
Big Lou said:
Think we could trade Shitzpatrick to the Raiders for Schaub? LOL
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Honestly? I think Schaub would probably make better decisions than Shitz.

Sadly he also has fewer tools than Shitz so it would probably be a wash and if I'm going with a bad QB I'm going to go with the cheaper bad QB.
 
JB said:
Sorry TK, I just can't figure out where you are...

You're all over the place


:pop:

:kitten:
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TK is where he usually is. Keeping the pot stirred so nothing gets stuck to the bottom and burns. He's just trying to get us all to consider other possibilities so don't interpret what I'm saying as criticism.

:stirpot:
 
Hervoyel said:
TK is where he usually is. Keeping the pot stirred so nothing gets stuck to the bottom and burns. He's just trying to get us all to consider other possibilities so don't interpret what I'm saying as criticism.

:stirpot:
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I believe that's called being a devil's advocate or a troll.
 
HOU-TEX said:
It's going to be interesting to see what we do at QB in the offseason. The odds are we'll win a couple few more games with either of the two QBS. If Mallett isn't the answer our draft position will likely put a 'potential' franchise QB out of reach. So, what will we do? Trade? Extend the Fitz 10 years?
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Take Winston if he falls.
 
JCTexan said:
LOL this is probably the most perfect quote to describe Fitzpatrick so far this season. Not bad enough to lose his job but not good enough to keep it. :rake:
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That's exactly what it is. I'm not trying to stir the pot, it is what it is. Throw a bunch of what ifs out there, if it were Andrew Luck who had a game like that, would you bench him? If it were Peyton Manning? If it were Teddy Bridgewater?

No you wouldn't & there's a lot of reasons for that. Because of who he is & we know that's as good as it gets..... which we know is not the case for those other guys... then it's time to move on.

I never wanted Fitzpatrick to start for this team... I was one of the last guys holding out for a Ryan Mallet trade. I wanted Mallet to start week 2. I think we wasted 8 games this year trying to fix something that's not broken.... it's just what it is. You don't fix a Santafe & turn it into a Mustang.
 
HOU-TEX said:
It's going to be interesting to see what we do at QB in the offseason. The odds are we'll win a couple few more games with either of the two QBS. If Mallett isn't the answer our draft position will likely put a 'potential' franchise QB out of reach. So, what will we do? Trade? Extend the Fitz 10 years?
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Would a franchise QB be worth our 1st this year & next? Our 1st, 2nd, 3rd, & next year's first?

If that's the key to a winning franchise, what would be out of our reach?
 
thunderkyss said:
Would a franchise QB be worth our 1st this year & next? Our 1st, 2nd, 3rd, & next year's first?

If that's the key to a winning franchise, what would be out of our reach?
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But is bob's offensive scheme too complicated to learn in a year ? :kitten: :stirpot:
 
HOU-TEX said:
It's going to be interesting to see what we do at QB in the offseason. The odds are we'll win a couple few more games with either of the two QBS. If Mallett isn't the answer our draft position will likely put a 'potential' franchise QB out of reach. So, what will we do? Trade? Extend the Fitz 10 years?
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Knowing the Texans, they will wait until they are "mathematically eliminated" to start Mallet...week 17 vs. the Jags. Mallet has a decent game, and they give him a fat contract for 6 years....based upon a game against one of the worst teams in football.

And we all act like pretty little butterflies fluttering in a breeze all off-season. Not sure what that means, but just wanted to use this-----> :butterfly:
 
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