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I like the direction of the current Texans

infantrycak said:
Ask DB, we have had this discussion for over a decade now.

It isn't expect from the fans, it's just the fans are different.

I grew up a Cowboys fan. Bought Texans PSLs. Very first season commented on how if we got down at all, heck even were leading by less than 300, the stadium had an expectation of losing. If anything negative at all happened, my Houston raised wife would be "we're going to lose." As a Cowboys fan I found it baffling. Every game was winnable. 21 points down with 7 minutes to go was still an expectation Staubach would pull it out. There is a very different culture in Houston. Not saying worse, or unrealistic - just different. Today's Cowboy fans are living in the past and yet they are still more optimistic than Texans fans.
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This is what happens to the fan base when Moon is your QB instead of Staubach.
 
Texecutioner said:
I hate when people say this stuff about the city. What do you expect from the fans? What are they supposed to do, just automatically feel like we're going to be champs every year and sound like a bunch of silly homers? Believe me, we have plenty of that around this site and around this city. Bottom line is that this city has a horrible history of football success for the most part. Since the Texans came here they've had two terrible regimes that have been embarrassing? What the hell do you want the fans to say? What do you want them to do? It hasn't been pretty. The fans sell out every game and have made Mcnair's team one of the most successful franchises in all of sports. And here you are coming in here and saying that fans need don't have the right philosophy and this and that? Seriously, that is one of the most ridiculous things anyone could say. This is a football town and the fans here support this team a lot more than the majority of football fans around the NFL even despite the team's lack of success and embarrassing blunders of the Kubiak/Capers era.

If you want to criticize the behavior, start with the owner and the Texans management who has not done a strong job at building this franchise. For god sakes though, get off the fans. The fans here are as die hard of football fans as it gets.
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Yes this is a football town, but contrast the texans and its fan base with the other pro teams in this town. There's a very distinct difference. The Astros have been trash just about as long as the Texans but the majority of baseball fans here are Stros fans...The same for the Rockets although they've at least been making the playoffs for the last few years.

What it boils down to with football fans here in Houston is that many of those fans aren't true diehard fans of Houston football much less the Texans...there's a small concentrated group of us who are but everyone knows there's a very strong contigent of cowboys fans in this town. & since Katrina and the Saints have become good, Saints fans have started coming out of nowwhere too...This isn't even mentioning more than a few of the Oiler/Titans converts still here and the pocket of Steeler fans that seem to be in almost every pro football city. This doesn't purport to change until this team starts winning consistently and converting some of these fans but the football town thing is overplayed.
 
steelbtexan said:
This is what happens to the fan base when Moon is your QB instead of Staubach.
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Marcus said:
Umm no, this is what happens to the fan base when one city has 5 Super Bowl rings, and other one has zip.
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infantrycak said:
Yeah, pretty much the same thing. Staubach and Aikman = SBs. Moon = optimistic pessimism.
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Other than 3 decent-to-good years with Moon and a couple of years with Earl carrying the Oilers, what did we have to look forward to?

All of you, even Tex, are reinforcing Wolfie's point. Houston fans keep waiting and they keep getting "rewarded" with more disappointment.

Hard to be patient when each successive HC says "be patient". You kinda get tired of hearing that.
 
infantrycak said:
Ask DB, we have had this discussion for over a decade now.

It isn't expect from the fans, it's just the fans are different.

I grew up a Cowboys fan. Bought Texans PSLs. Very first season commented on how if we got down at all, heck even were leading by less than 300, the stadium had an expectation of losing. If anything negative at all happened, my Houston raised wife would be "we're going to lose." As a Cowboys fan I found it baffling. Every game was winnable. 21 points down with 7 minutes to go was still an expectation Staubach would pull it out. There is a very different culture in Houston. Not saying worse, or unrealistic - just different. Today's Cowboy fans are living in the past and yet they are still more optimistic than Texans fans.
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Man, you ain't lying about that. As a Cowboys fan myself, and everyone in my family a Cowboys hater, it was really something to know that when the Cowboys were down, and the family is whooping it up, I could just calmly say to them, with confidence, check back with me in the 4th. And sure enough, they'd win in the end. In their 90's run especially. You just expected to win. I've never had that kind of confidence with the Texans or Oilers, or any other Houston team for that matter. The closest feeling of 'we got this' I've ever had for a Houston team was the Coogs against NC State and we all know how that turned out. OK, maybe the Aeros too back in the day.

This city just doesn't have a history of winning, in any sport. And when that's the case, when you've lived a lifetime of it, when you've lived the Renfro no TD, Montana in the Cotton Bowl, NC State, 35-3, Astros/Phillies, Astros/Mets, and on and on, you don't expect to win. Even when the Rockets won, I was never confident they'd do it.
 
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