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Week 1 VS Skins.....Lets Predict ;)

Marshall said:
And yet they are 3-1 in preseason and scoring 22 points a game. I'm not sure why you don't consider them at least average competition. I just checked and it wasn't because of outstanding backup play. It was starters against starters.
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Marshall said:
AND we were better than our record indicated. 2-14 wasn't the truth. 12-4 wasn't the truth. But somewhere in between WAS the truth.
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Even more reason to believe the Skins aren't going to beat us 30-13

What point are you arguing again?
 
Marshall said:
And yet they are 3-1 in preseason and scoring 22 points a game. I'm not sure why you don't consider them at least average competition. I just checked and it wasn't because of outstanding backup play. It was starters against starters.
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The Giants went 4-0 in preseason, but uhhhhhh something tells me they will not be undefeated at months end.

Personally I see this two teams in a very similar boat to start the season. I gave the 3 point edge to the Texans because they are the home team. Very hard to predict how this game will go.
 
I'm worried that our secondary won't be able to keep up with Garcon, DJax, S.Moss and TE Jordan. Hopefully the preseason emphasis on illegal contact/holding will temper down.
 
Marshall said:
And yet they are 3-1 in preseason and scoring 22 points a game. I'm not sure why you don't consider them at least average competition. I just checked and it wasn't because of outstanding backup play. It was starters against starters.
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It was not starters against starters. RG3 threw exactly 0 TDs in the pre-season. Kirk Cousins and Colt McCoy threw the TDs, backups! Eddie Royster had a rushing TD, backup!.

So yes those scores were because of outstanding backup play...
 
Nitrofish said:
The Giants went 4-0 in preseason, but uhhhhhh something tells me they will not be undefeated at months end.

Personally I see this two teams in a very similar boat to start the season. I gave the 3 point edge to the Texans because they are the home team. Very hard to predict how this game will go.
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so did the 2008 Detroit Lions...remind me again who they took #1 overall in that winless season?


paper champions are a dime a dozen...
 
gafftop said:
I really agree with above but I will say below to make it interesting.
1. Washington loads the box and dares Fitz to throw the ball.
2. Fitz throws short routes that are contested, maybe ball tipped by defender or line once for 1 int and bad throw/bad judgement leads to another. Fitz and WRs still not on same page. Discover why we haven't seen Fitz throw long.
3. Arian plays but is rusty and because Redskins stacking box is not a factor. Does not finish game for unknown reason.
4. JD/JJ make a couple highlight plays. Front seven plays OK.
5. RG does not impress but makes a few big plays to the WRs. Our secondary is exposed once again as slow.
6. We actually play good enough to win but don't because we cannot score in red zone and get burned on few big plays.
7. JD or Cushing don't finish game.
8. We discover Grimes doesn't look as good once the real game begins.

That's enough.
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1. We run on their loaded box anyway. What Washington didn't realize is our run blocking is better than our pass blocking. We still gash them for 5 yds/carry.
2. Fitz does throw short routes. And Andre' runs through the slot DBs and DeAndre puts the shake & bake on DeAngelo turning those short passes into big gains.
3. Arian IS rusty. ...for the first series. In our 2nd possession O'Brien gets him the ball in space and the Arian of 2011 re-emerges. He is replaced in the 4th qtr by Grimes who, with fresh legs, runs for nearly 80 yds in one qtr; killing the clock and showing that even O'Brien has a "turtle mode".
4. "Okay" meaning the front seven have 5 sacks and 3 blocked passes. One of the deflections goes to Cushing who runs it back to the ten (if he wasn't still gimpy he'd have taken it to the house).
5. RGIII does make a couple of big scramble plays. Unfortunately all but one are called back due to offensive holding. The one that wasn't called back via penalty was a ten yd gain. Also unfortunately, Clowney ran him down and forced a fumble which we recovered at mid-field.
6. Wrong. We KILL them. Defense, for both teams, is the story of this game. Ours is murderous. Theirs is non-existent; just like last year.
7. Correct. We're up by 20 with ten minutes to go. We play keep away offense by running out the clock. Washington finally gets the ball back with 3 minutes to go after we kick a FG. Now up by 23, RAC pulls Cush and Clowney because one isn't quite in football shape yet and the other is still a little nicked up. So both basically have the 4th qtr off.
8. True. He still sucks at pass protection. And he's not close to a 3rd down, pass-catching RB. But he's grinding out 5-6 yds per carry. So who cares if he can't catch. :)
 
ObsiWan said:
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1. We run on their loaded box anyway. What Washington didn't realize is our run blocking is better than our pass blocking. We still gash them for 5 yds/carry.
2. Fitz does throw short routes. And Andre' runs through the slot DBs and DeAndre puts the shake & bake on DeAngelo turning those short passes into big gains.
3. Arian IS rusty. ...for the first series. In our 2nd possession O'Brien gets him the ball in space and the Arian of 2011 re-emerges. He is replaced in the 4th qtr by Grimes who, with fresh legs, runs for nearly 80 yds in one qtr; killing the clock and showing that even O'Brien has a "turtle mode".
4. "Okay" meaning the front seven have 5 sacks and 3 blocked passes. One of the deflections goes to Cushing who runs it back to the ten (if he wasn't still gimpy he'd have taken it to the house).
5. RGIII does make a couple of big scramble plays. Unfortunately all but one are called back due to offensive holding. The one that wasn't called back via penalty was a ten yd gain. Also unfortunately, Clowney ran him down and forced a fumble which we recovered at mid-field.
6. Wrong. We KILL them. Defense, for both teams, is the story of this game. Ours is murderous. Theirs is non-existent; just like last year.
7. Correct. We're up by 20 with ten minutes to go. We play keep away offense by running out the clock. Washington finally gets the ball back with 3 minutes to go after we kick a FG. Now up by 23, RAC pulls Cush and Clowney because one isn't quite in football shape yet and the other is still a little nicked up. So both basically have the 4th qtr off.
8. True. He still sucks at pass protection. And he's not close to a 3rd down, pass-catching RB. But he's grinding out 5-6 yds per carry. So who cares if he can't catch. :)
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Hoping you are right. I pick Dan for me above.
 
1) We run the ball ALOT. Considering the Foster situation, we should see plenty of Blue.

2) Fitz throws for about ~ 100 yards and No TDs or INTs. Throws maybe 15 passes.

3) Texans win 13-6 as our defensive runs circles around Washington's offense. I wouldn't be surprised if our sole TD is scored by the defense.

4) I'm wrong about all of this. :kitten:
 
Thorn said:
My butt doesn't hurt. It does itch though.

Does your butt hurt?
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They have cream for that...

Funny story when i was young i had a cut, and my dad had some hemorrhoid cream, i got a bad cut so i used it thinking it was neosporin. That crap don't work worth a damn at healing cuts.
 
EllisUnit said:
They have cream for that...

Funny story when i was young i had a cut, and my dad had some hemorrhoid cream, i got a bad cut so i used it thinking it was neosporin. That crap don't work worth a damn at healing cuts.
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So you're saying we should put Neosporin on our ass instead of Preparation H?
 
thunderkyss said:
Even more reason to believe the Skins aren't going to beat us 30-13

What point are you arguing again?
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I think it will be close, not because we are both bad, but because we are both average. I fully expect chicken little to look like an optimist on this board if we lose to the REDSKINS.
 
I perused their message board for a few minutes and couldn't help but notice how highly they think of their defense. They've got decent OLBs, then what? Their secondary isn't going to scare anyone. As a matter of fact, we should attack Hall all game long. Dude has to be one of the most overrated CBs in the league, imo.

BUT, almost everything hinges on QB play. Will we get the average Fitz? Or the Fitz who fitzes?

AND, our DBs, who haven't had much to hang their hats on for quite some time now. How long will it take RGIII to figure out Swearinger is the weakest link in the secondary? Eh, I'm sure they already know
 
HOU-TEX said:
I perused their message board for a few minutes and couldn't help but notice how highly they think of their defense. They've got decent OLBs, then what? Their secondary isn't going to scare anyone. As a matter of fact, we should attack Hall all game long. Dude has to be one of the most overrated CBs in the league, imo.

BUT, almost everything hinges on QB play. Will we get the average Fitz? Or the Fitz who fitzes?

AND, our DBs, who haven't had much to hang their hats on for quite some time now. How long will it take RGIII to figure out Swearinger is the weakest link in the secondary? Eh, I'm sure they already know
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Better question. How long will it take him to learn to throw the ball from a prone position?

Hopefully.

:coffee:
 
Not all their votes are in yet, but so far the ESPN predictions page has a count of 6 to 2 for the Texans. I wonder if they know something we don't.
 
thunderkyss said:
Now watch them score 30 on us because I opened my big mouth
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If they do score 30+ against the Texans it won't be as because of your "big mouth" but in big part because of what I indicated in my initial post. And to add to the other reasons why I think this could happen, I believe that RG3 may give the Texans fits. And if he isn't playing for whatever reason, Cousins probably will as well.

I remember reading the predictions on this board last year and watching person after person predict that the Texans were gonna eat the Rams for lunch to the tune of really outrageous blowout scores. Almost everybody was so very WTH about it when the game was over. :vincepalm:

If the Texans can somehow pull out victories against the Redskins and against the Raiders in week #2 then I will feel more confident about the idea that this Texans team is indeed a different and more focused team under O'Brien than in all of the years prior. I might even predict them to somehow upset the Giants in week #3. Winning against both the Redskins and the Raiders is the key.

Don't worry though, I do believe that the Texans will win against the Bills in week #4!:koolaid:
 
Sigma said:
when we play washington I always think about that 2010 game...
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Me too-I was there and boy did that stadium change once we tied it up! Until then I was taking all kinds of crap from the 'Skins fans around me.

Loved that game!
 
austins23 said:
I just hope they aren't so jacked up that they run out of gas in the 3rd Q.
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Would not be the first time we've seen the Texans do that, especially last year. I still don't understand why people cannot grasp the idea that the Texans can and sometimes do get beaten (and sometimes beaten badly) by teams that the masses consider to be cupcakes.

Beat these Redskins. Then in week #2 beat those pesky Raiders (whom the Texans often find ways to lose to, even in the glorious pre-injury Schaub years).

If the Texans do both, I may feel better about this team, depends on how they won. I'll say this: last year I didn't feel very confident about the Texans going into week #3 even though they were 2-0 at that point. It was the manner in which they played (especially D and special teams minus fake punt) that left me concerned.
 
HouTx11 said:
If the Texans can somehow pull out victories against the Redskins and against the Raiders in week #2 then I will feel more confident about the idea that this Texans team is indeed a different and more focused team under O'Brien than in all of the years prior. I might even predict them to somehow upset the Giants in week #3. Winning against both the Redskins and the Raiders is the key.

Don't worry though, I do believe that the Texans will win against the Bills in week #4!:koolaid:
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We finished 2-14 last season
The Skins finished 3-13
The Raiders finished 4-12

But it's "if the Texans can somehow pull out victories against" them... They're the key?

You're confident we're going to beat the 6-10 Bills, but it's going to be a monumental upset to beat the 7-9 Giants?


& I'm drinking the koolaid because I don't think the Redskins are going to put 30 on us? I'm not even saying we'll win, just that they won't score 30, but I'm drinking the koolaid.

:ok:
 
Oh watt the heck.

New coach, system, QB and a quite impressive front seven of the Texans def line that won't allow RG3 to run around too much + the home opener and a LOUD full stadium...

20-17 Bulls
 
Has everyone seen the "Put the team first" stickers on all the players locker ? O'brien truly believes that i guess ! It's a good thing IMO though !
 
I'm thinking we're getting a few victories on the book this year solely due to the fact that what we're doing is new. It'll take some time before we're figured out... hopefully that won't help our opponents.

Texans victory sunday, RG3 gets hurt in the second quarter and their backup throws a couple of picks.... That's according to my wet dream at least ;)
 
Malloy said:
I'm thinking we're getting a few victories on the book this year solely due to the fact that what we're doing is new. It'll take some time before we're figured out... hopefully that won't help our opponents.

Texans victory sunday, RG3 gets hurt in the second quarter and their backup throws a couple of picks.... That's according to my wet dream at least ;)
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We have completely opposite wet dreams......
 
at home if u win the coin toss I think its always best 2 go on offensive first cus not everyone is in there seats and if u give them a extra 6 mins to get 2 your seat it will be even louder when the def gets on the field first
 
speedfreek said:
The line opened at Texans by 1.5, which means the redskins would be
favored by 1.5 on a neutral field.

However, the sharps moved the line quickly to Texans by 3.0

This tells me that no one really has a clue as to what will happen..

O/U dropped to 45.5. I'd definitely take the under, I don't see either
of these teams cracking 20..

I think both teams defenses are better than the opposing teams offense
-- substantially..
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For these exact reasons, I'm gonna be a contrarian.
Not too many people believe all that much in either offense; so I'm gonna call a 24 - all game, going to OT.

The better defense will win it in OT.. :swatter: :gamer:
 
John McClain @McClain_on_NFL
Crennel "Only time will tell how good this defense can be. I've been here since January. We've had guys in and out. Hard to develop chemistry"

Crennel "He (Watt) is pretty versatile. You can play him at several positions, inside or outside, and he can stand up if we need that."

Crennel "They (Redskins) do have a lot of speed outside, and you're always worried when you have to go up against it."

Crennel on rookie NT Louis Nix III "He's coming along. He's trying to get up to speed. He shows some flashes in practice."

Crennel "Cushing brings an attitude to our defense."

Crennel "Cushing is a physical player who sets the tone. It's great for us to have him back."

Crennel on Clowney's preseason "I saw about three great plays. If he makes more like that, I'll like him a lot more."

Crennel on Clowney "Once the bullets start flying, we'll find out how much he's retained."
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Bill O'Brien says RB Ronnie Brown and WR DeVier Posey have played RG3 in #Texans practice.

OBrien "That's (Redskins speed) definitely a challenge for us."

OBrien "If you wait until halftime to make adjustments you're in trouble. After the 3rd or 4th series you should have a good idea how game going."

OBrien "I'm fired up to watch Brian Cushing play. We all are. He's had a really good week of practice. Intense, smart, great in locker room."

OBrien on TE Garrett Graham "He may not be able to play. We'll have to work him out morning of the game. Not a major injury."

OBrien "All of us coaching in Houston for the first time have heard so much about the crowd at the stadium and we're excited about Sunday."

OBrien "Anytime a guy has a concussion it's obviously concerning but he seemed to do well on baseline testing (protocol)."

OBrien on Clowney "He's had a good week. He's an instinctive player. I'm looking forward to watching him play."
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James Palmer @JPalmerCSN
Romeo Crennel laughs and says “I’m not worried about their speed” when I asked him about Redskins speed. #tongueincheek

Crennel we’ll find out Sunday more about where Clowney is and how much he has retained.

If you didn’t know, Arian Foster will start Sunday. O’Brien added he’ll play a lot. But back ups will play at some point in the game.

O’Brien says staying in your rush lanes as the most important part of getting after RGIII.

O’Brien laughs and and goes “ahhhhhh” - when told that Clowney told us he had a concussion. #Rookie
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OBrien "All of us coaching in Houston for the first time have heard so much about the crowd at the stadium and we're excited about Sunday."

I'm afraid he might be disappointed. I fear the crowd may sit on it's hands waiting to see what the new coaching staff brings to the table.
...but that's just a guess
 
ObsiWan said:
OBrien "All of us coaching in Houston for the first time have heard so much about the crowd at the stadium and we're excited about Sunday."

I'm afraid he might be disappointed. I fear the crowd may sit on it's hands waiting to see what the new coaching staff brings to the table.
...but that's just a guess
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I don't think so while on defense. Cushing being back and JD being here, I imagine we go crazy, at least to start....start losing and the boos will fly for FITZ lol
 
amazing80 said:
I don't think so while on defense. Cushing being back and JD being here, I imagine we go crazy, at least to start....start losing and the boos will fly for FITZ lol
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The crowd is not used to any of the three QBs we got now. It's likely all three will get booed the second they do something wrong.
 
Thorn said:
The crowd is not used to any of the three QBs we got now. It's likely all three will get booed the second they do something wrong.
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I don't think so. The Texans' crowd expects a lot, & they give respect until you give them reason not to. If they introduce the defense (they'd be stupid not to) the crowd (what little will be there at kick off) is going to go nuts when they say, "Starting at Defensive end, number 99 J!! J!! .... " They're going to go nuts.

If we lose the toss, or OB defers, defense gets on first & they give us a 3& out, the place will erupt. If Watt or Clowney gets a sack in that 3 & out..... or something crazy like back to back sacks & a safety... we'll blow the roof off that muttha.

They'll most likely get a standing O at half time if we're playing good football, winning or losing.

But one quarter of penalties & bending & breaking defense, turnovers & inept offense... the boo birds will start flying.
 
amazing80 said:
I don't think so while on defense. Cushing being back and JD being here, I imagine we go crazy, at least to start....start losing and the boos will fly for FITZ lol
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Now I didn't say that a big play by any of the above couldn't whip the faithful into a frenzy
 
thunderkyss said:
I don't think so. The Texans' crowd expects a lot, & they give respect until you give them reason not to. If they introduce the defense (they'd be stupid not to) the crowd (what little will be there at kick off) is going to go nuts when they say, "Starting at Defensive end, number 99 J!! J!! .... " They're going to go nuts.

If we lose the toss, or OB defers, defense gets on first & they give us a 3& out, the place will erupt. If Watt or Clowney gets a sack in that 3 & out..... or something crazy like back to back sacks & a safety... we'll blow the roof off that muttha.

They'll most likely get a standing O at half time if we're playing good football, winning or losing.

But one quarter of penalties & bending & breaking defense, turnovers & inept offense... the boo birds will start flying.
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Oh, I agree. I was more or less talking only about the reception the three QBs may receive, not the team itself. I was just saying it'll be easier for the crowd to show their displeasure with these newbies.
 
The jubilation of not having Kubiak and Schaub is enough to
suppress the boo-birds for a week or two..

Thorn said:
The crowd is not used to any of the three QBs we got now. It's likely all three will get booed the second they do something wrong.
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