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What grade would you give this draft?

What grad would you give our draft?

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I give a solid A grade! This guys are a bunch of big, tough, smart, hard nose, & most of all OB type guys! Even, some NFL announcers thought we got bigger on both sides! Think "super sized"!:swatter::fans:
 
I thought it was a pretty good draft and I gave it a B because many top needs were addressed. I thought they should have got a higher rated QB and another good offensive lineman instead of focusing so much on defensive tackles and ends.

It remains to be seen whether the free agent draft can cover some of the weak spots.
 
Texian said:
What is almost always the case why people transfer is they weren't good enough to get the playing time they want. Jevan Snead, Garrett Gilbert and Storm Johnson are recent player transfers many folks can identify with.There are rare exceptions where a player graduates and can transfer w/o having to wait a year, as was the case w/ Russell Wilson.
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Yeah, what he said.

Tom should've sucked it up & stayed on the bench while other more talented prospects played. Like that other Tom, maybe he would have got to play as a senior, get drafted in the sixth round & go on to become one of the greatest to play the game.



Evah!!
 
bhsman said:
4) Savage - B+

Would've preferred Garoppolo here, as I mentioned, but I was higher on Savage than most and getting him in the bottom of the 4th is good value. Let him sit for the season and see how things shake out draft-wise in 2015 (and because Savage is a late-4th pick, we aren't chained to him if a guy like Hundley or Mariota somehow fall to us). Good pick.
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& I would have preferred Sammy Watkins, but the guy was gone. Can't blame our staff because someone picked the guy you preferred earlier.

You gave him a 4th round grade, we got him at the bottom of the 4th... I don't follow your logic.
 
Corrosion said:
I somewhat agree with him , for me the grade on this draft is based off of the top 4 players taken .... the rest don't appear to be special. Don't take that to mean I think they were bad choices or poor players. Its no lock that any of them make the final 53.


Clowney A
Su'a-Filo A
Fiedorowicz C (like the player , not the choice)
Nix A

After that , I wasn't particularly thrilled with any choice. They do appear at first glance to be average to ordinary.


None of those guys from Savage on down blows you away.
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I can see where you're coming from. But I give Fiedo a higher grade than C... I wasn't in love with any TE in this draft, because the only ones they talked about were in the OD/GG mold & I wanted Gronk mold.

Of course I listen to you guys & the main stream media, so... I googled the crap out of him when we selected him & he's exactly what I wanted.

Nix... I think an athletic 330 lb man is more rare than a franchise QB. I'd be surprised if he weighs in at 330 or less when he reports to camp, or that he's got the want to & athletic ability to be the guy "we" want him to be. Which is why if we're going to go after a big boy such as this I'd rather do it much later in the draft, or some obscure FA trying to get a second chance. I think we may have wasted this pick all together.

Savage... we're just QB hungry & short of Logan Thomas in the 2nd I don't think RickyBobby could have screwed this up. All they had to do was resist the urge to reach. So regardless what we think about the player, I give them an A+ for not screwing it up.

Someone mentioned earlier that the goal should be 4 starters. I think that's extremely optimistic, especially if we're talking day 1. I think we got three day 1 starters & a couple of guys who may turn into starters by 2015.

I don't know if that's an A, A+, or a B- but I'm happier about this draft than I've been in a while & it seems I'm not alone.
 
MEH!! Many of you "B" graders that I've known over the years............ are being contrarians. Y'all know it was a damn good draft! LOL!
 
Texan_Bill said:
MEH!! Many of you "B" graders that I've known over the years............ are being contrarians. Y'all know it was a damn good draft! LOL!
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I gave it an A .... the haul that they came out of the first two days with , no one could have expected going in as Nix was graded as a mid first rounder by most , SuaFilo was thought to be the first guard off the board from the mid first to the tail end of the round. Walking way from day two with those three and a big all around TE .... I'd have told you it would be impossible without trading away future picks..
 
Houston Texans

1. Jadeveon Clowney, linebacker/end, South Carolina.
33. Xavier Su'a-Filo, guard/tackle, UCLA.
65. C.J. Fiedorowicz, tight end, Iowa.
83. Louis Nix, nose tackle, Notre Dame.
135. Tom Savage, quarterback, Pittsburgh.
177. Jeoffrey Pagan, defensive end, Alabama.
181. Alfred Blue, running back, LSU.
211. Jay Prosch, fullback, Auburn.
216. Dre Hal, cornerback, Vanderbilt.
256. Lonnie Ballentine, safety, Memphis.

Overview: I realize it was just a sixth-round blip on the radar, but the Texans' selection of Auburn lead-blocker Prosch is a strong indication of how this team plans to play until rookie coach Bill O'Brien finds a legitimate quarterback: Houston is going to run the ball with volume and play stout defense. Almost every pick here suits that philosophy. A freakazoid outside pass rusher in Clowney. A two-down toilet clogger in Nix. A hammerhead, lane-clearing fullback in Prosch. A pro-ready blocking tight end in Fiedorowicz. A high-ceiling left guard in Su'a-Filo. Running back depth with Blue. Even Mr. Irrelevant Ballantine is a toolsy safety with starting-caliber measurables. I appreciate teams that pick a defined way to play and make moves in coherent fashion, designing their roster with a purposeful goal in mind. When O'Brien finally finds his signal caller -- and I wouldn't completely rule out big-armed Savage becoming that guy -- this team will ascend quickly.

Grade: A
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I see four day-one starters in this group, plus Prosch, who should be FB1. A lot of that reflects on the lack of talent on the roster, but a lot of it is due to the talent that these players bring to the team. I can't see how this draft is not an A.
 
WolverineFan said:
No OL? We drafted Su'a-Filo in the 2nd round. Perhaps you meant OT? I think we have an open competition at RT between Newton and 2 of our O-Line picks last year (David Quessenberry and Brennan Williams). I would be surprised if Newton wins that competition.

LT - Brown
LG - Su'a-Filo
C - Myers
RG - Brooks
RT - Quess / Williams / Newton
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Yeah, I meant OT/RT.

Thorn said:
Put down the bong you've had to much today.
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How did you know, what gave it away?:peek:
 
C.

Clowney ... okay, why did the 2nd coming of godzilla only have 3 ... (three) ... 3 ... (three) ... did I say "3" .... sacks last year? If he's truly that great even being double and triple teamed there should have been much more production there. Heck, for all his hype, he should've had 3 sacks in one half of at least ONE game!

I believe the 2 best picks are the UCLA guard and Nix is a good value at his place in the draft.

I have a question ... DID ANYONE TELL THE TEXANS WE NEED AN OT?????
 
maddogmrb said:
C.

Clowney ... okay, why did the 2nd coming of godzilla only have 3 ... (three) ... 3 ... (three) ... did I say "3" .... sacks last year? If he's truly that great even being double and triple teamed there should have been much more production there. Heck, for all his hype, he should've had 3 sacks in one half of at least ONE game!

I believe the 2 best picks are the UCLA guard and Nix is a good value at his place in the draft.

I have a question ... DID ANYONE TELL THE TEXANS WE NEED AN OT?????
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We don't need tackle evidently; Quess will play RT and don't count out a healthy Newton.

Kubiak said the Texans expected Quessenberry to be drafted shortly after Williams went in the third round. When he was still there in the sixth, general manager Rick Smith decided to trade up eight spots to get him.

Newton, a seventh-round pick from Arkansas State in 2011, started last season after playing sparingly as a rookie. The Texans also finished 2012 with two rookies rotating at right guard in Ben Jones and Brandon Brooks.

“We played rookies on the right side the majority of the year,” Kubiak said. “That was a big growing situation for us as a football team. I thought Newt did some really good things; he’s gonna be a fine player. Unfortunately gets hurt late in the season and played hurt for us; giving him a lot of credit for that. We gotta get him back. It’s gonna be training camp before he’s healthy.

“The biggest thing you can do when you’ve got young players is give them reps. If they prove they can go in there and do it right off the get-go, that makes us a better team, so we’ll see.”
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http://www.houstontexans.com/news/a...ing-camp/5bae8afe-d417-4e70-beb8-e0579694d0db
 
I am not really enthralled with this draft. Clowney was a good pick, but I feel like if they had traded up into the bottom of the 1st round for Teddy it would've been a real knockout. I do not like the Fiedorowicz or the Savage picks, and those were fairly high. Clowney, Nix and Hal were the real winning picks for me, and I like XSF but I would've liked to have had Bridgewater more. I also would've taken Murray before Savage because I really like Murray's tape (injury notwithstanding).

So yeah, I voted C. Couple of picks I liked, couple of picks I did not like, and then some guys that need more reading up on.
 
If we're celebrating a Superbowl win in February I'll say an A, but for NOW I'll say B. What's pissing me off is this year ALL 32 teams passed up two dynamic homegrown talents which would have improved their rosters by leaps and bounds. (Sigh) I guess me and Bill have to wait until NEXT year. Sorry Bill.

:texanbill: :dread:
 
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To me it seems that before everyone had a board. Rick had his, Gary had his, and Wade had a 3rd board and they didn't interlace it into one cohesive board. This time it feels like they all had an agreement and stuck with it. Finally have one leader and not an offensive and defensive coordinator.
 
BigBull17 said:
To me it seems that before everyone had a board. Rick had his, Gary had his, and Wade had a 3rd board and they didn't interlace it into one cohesive board. This time it feels like they all had an agreement and stuck with it. Finally have one leader and not an offensive and defensive coordinator.
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What's always killed me with previous drafts was that most of the guys that they drafted were guys that weren't on my radar. Like... at all.

And that was OK. I would take a look at each pick, study it a bit, and comprehend the logic for the most part and get behind the pick.

This draft felt very different, more like the JJ Watt draft, where they were drafting at least the positions I expected them to draft but this time, they were also drafting GUYS that were on my radar, on my radar even though I didn't think we'd get them.

I didn't expect Sua'Filo or Nix to make it out of the first round. So, for me, getting Clowney, Sua'Filo, and Nix makes it feel like I got 3 first round picks. Savage had me worried. I was afraid we'd pick him in the 2nd and I didn't want him in the 2nd. In the 4th? Yeah. I'm good with that. And Fiedorowicz was another guy that was on my radar but I didn't expect us to draft. I was aware of Pagan because I'd seen him on some of the mock drafts and I even think I picked him once in the Mock Simulator.

I had Andre Hal on my list of prospects for the TT Mock and if I'd had another later round pick, I might have selected him.

AND I DID pick Chris Boswell (who we got as a UDFA) for the Titans.

It may not matter and this draft may go down as the worst ever, but at this point, I feel great about it because I know these guys and they drafted the positions I'd hoped and expected they would
 
QB is the most important position on the team.

it was our most glaring weakness.

yet we wait until the 4th round to get a qb who most likely will be a career back up.

if clowney fails or is mediocre and if any of the QBs who got drafted earlier than tom savage become great,

this grade will become an F.

right now everything hinges on clowney getting at least 10 sacks and being a consistent disruptor. anything less and this draft is a failure unless all the other picks become great which i doubt.

even the nix pick everyone is so in love about is suspect. from what ive seen i dont understand how they could have drafted him so high. even in his highlight videos he didnt seem to do much.
 
Lord Bills said:
right now everything hinges on clowney getting at least 10 sacks and being a consistent disruptor. anything less and this draft is a failure unless all the other picks become great which i doubt.

even the nix pick everyone is so in love about is suspect. from what ive seen i dont understand how they could have drafted him so high. even in his highlight videos he didnt seem to do much.
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That's why you're not an NFL scout.
 
Lord Bills said:
QB is the most important position on the team.

it was our most glaring weakness.

yet we wait until the 4th round to get a qb who most likely will be a career back up.

if clowney fails or is mediocre and if any of the QBs who got drafted earlier than tom savage become great,

this grade will become an F.

right now everything hinges on clowney getting at least 10 sacks and being a consistent disruptor. anything less and this draft is a failure unless all the other picks become great which i doubt.

even the nix pick everyone is so in love about is suspect. from what ive seen i dont understand how they could have drafted him so high. even in his highlight videos he didnt seem to do much.
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What happens when Bill O'Brien proves he knows how to cipher future potential and Savage ends up being the best of the bunch? Not saying it will happen but it has as good a chance as any of the others. Many, if not most, were pointing out leading up to the draft that there just wasn't a stark degree of separation between any of the prospects this draft.

I wasn't so sure about Clowney either. I guess I bought into the "slacker" label. I wanted K. Mack. Personally, I can't wait to be proven wrong and fire up the pit for my serving of crow.

I feel like a few others that have posted that we potentially got 3 first rounders at the top of this draft. I believe the FO did a remarkable job. I don't see any way it in the end will be deemed to have earned an "F".

Looks like you're well on your way to being back in the red. Again. Congrats to ya. :shades:
 
Not a grade but Walterfootball has given out the draft awards and we`ve won best second day pick (Nix), best trade (Nix) and best draft class. Here is what they had to say:

" Best Draft Class: Houston Texans
Teams picking early have an advantage, but Houston was able to come away with a draft class that is going to pay off immediately and should vault the franchise to new heights in years to come. The Texans did the smart thing and took the draft's best player in Jadeveon Clowney. He could end up being an NFL legend.

In the second round, Houston landed the best guard in the 2014 NFL Draft, Xavier Su'a-Filo. He should make an immediate impact in reestablishing the Texans' ground game. Along the same lines, Houston landed the best Y tight end in the 2014 NFL Draft in C.J. Fiedorowicz. He's best as a blocker, but has surprising quickness and athleticism. Fiedorowicz will play as a rookie as well.

Louis Nix, as documented above, was one of the best moves in the 2014 NFL Draft. He'll be the starting nose tackle and should really help keep blockers away from J.J. Watt, Jadeveon Clowney and Brian Cushing.

At the end of the fourth round, Houston was able to land the quarterback it were considering on Day 2, Tom Savage. The big-armed pocket-passer is a perfect developmental signal-caller for Bill O'Brien to work with. Savage has the skill set to be a starter in the NFL.

The Texans continued to add some contributors in the late rounds of the 2014 NFL Draft. Defensive end Jeoffrey Pagan will be in position to compete for playing time as a five-technique defensive end as a rookie. Later in the sixth round, Houston landed a starting fullback in Jay Prosch. The devastating blocker was huge for Auburn in 2013. Arian Foster will love having Prosch in front of him.

The Texans also landed a rotational back and special teams star in Alfred Blue. Seventh-round cornerback Andre Hal was a steal and could compete at nickel for Houston. Even Mr. Irrelevant, Memphis safety Lonnie Ballentine, could make the roster. He has a real combination of size and speed. Ballentine could have gone much earlier.

At the end of the day, Houston at least five starters. If Savage turns into a steal and Clowney becomes what he's capable of, this could be a draft class of the ages. "
 
30+ year NFL scout Greg Gabriel's take: http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Draft-Review-AFC-South.html
The Texans led off the draft with defensive end/outside linebacker Jadeveon Clowney. There is no denying Clowney’s talent. He has the ability to be the best defensive player to come into the league in years. He did not play like that type of player in 2013 and that has to be concerning. Being paired with a veteran like J.J. Watt should help Clowney with his game preparation. If he plays up to his talent level, he has Pro Bowl written all over him.

Second round pick Xavier Su’a-Filo has the versatility to play guard or tackle. He is better suited to play guard, and that’s where the Texans will start him out. I expect him to be a starter come opening day.

The Texans had two third round picks and, in my opinion, got tremendous value with both selections. C.J. Fiedorowicz is a huge tight end who can play both as a “Y” or flexed out. He has excellent hands, is a very good route runner, and one of the better blocking tight ends in this draft. Notre Dame nose tackle Louis Nix was a steal. Many felt he was a late first rounder. Why he fell, I don’t know, but he is a prototypical NFL nose tackle who will start from day one for the Texans.

Pitt’s Tom Savage has the physical traits to be a very good NFL quarterback. He is big, with quick feet, has a very quick release, and spins the ball very well. Having been a double transfer in college he does not have a lot of playing time. Looking at tape, I felt he lacked top instincts and a good feel for the passing game. Still, the talent is there, but he needs some time to develop. If he is given that time, he can become a winning NFL QB.

Jeoffrey Pagan is a rotational five-technique. Jay Prosch was one of the best pure fullbacks in the draft, and Alfred Blue has the talent to be a solid NFL backup running back.
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I wasn't a big Clowney supporter, but the kid has come in and said/done all the right things. I really can't find any holes in this draft, yet.

I think Blue or Nix will be the the steal of the draft.

Hopefully I feel this good about this draft class in 3 years.
 
badboy said:
Impressive draft now need some impressive coaching and then some impressive play. Game on!
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I've been a bit put off by the rah-rah college stuff but, for some reason, I think BO'B is gonna pull this off. I really like the reports I hear of his no nonsense, straight forward way of coaching. He also seems to be able to blend the rah-rah, team first stuff in with being approachable, flexible and willing to fit his "system" to a player that has talent. Or at least he talks a good fight about doing all of that. The proof will be in the W-L pudding.
 
right now I want to see better play and wins will come but I am in minority that sloppy wins are not what I want to see.
 
Everything teams do is taking a step to build a winner.

The key is hoping some of those steps dont crumble and fall making it impossible for you to reach the top ;)
 
Brandy new join date. First post linking to a website, assuming yours?

Is this just a hit generator for your website?

Just axin'...:peek:
 
drs23 said:
Brandy new join date. First post linking to a website, assuming yours?

Is this just a hit generator for your website?

Just axin'...:peek:
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TheFantasyGreek feels better about the Texans draft after reading what he wrote on his own website. Brillant!!!
 
Thorn said:
I clicked on that before actually reading it. I really should get out of that habit.
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What kills me is that I clicked it KNOWING it was a video of John McClain.

If it had been a surprise, I could have at least acted outraged. But. No. I clicked into that with my eyes open, so to speak.

:vincepalm:

EDIT: Oh, wait. Are you talking about a different video?
 
Rival coach: Texans handled draft right

“They did the right thing,” one rival NFL head coach said during the offseason. "Any of those quarterbacks would have been a reach at No. 1. This kid [Clowney] has the ability to have a Jevon Kearse-type rookie year getting after the quarterback."

Kearse had 14 1/2 sacks as a rookie for the Tennessee Titans in 1999. Never mind that Kearse never again had that many sacks in an NFL season. Clowney can worry about his encore performance once his rookie year is done. He is well positioned to be a top pass rusher from the moment he steps on the field to open the 2014 season.

He has a unique combination of size, power and speed. He received pre-draft criticism from some analysts for, they said, not being consistent and not being fundamentally sound in all of his techniques. But some of those criticisms perhaps were overstated, with Clowney under intense scrutiny as the player who almost certainly would have been the top overall pick in the 2013 draft if he had been available.
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