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Here's what i say we do we give him a restructured contract for 17 million+5x61,000,000,000,000x577+1 round out the 8 and carry the 1 then add 3,000,000,000x7000 = 900,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000

Dont bother checking my math people it's correct.

Anyways we offer him that and maybe he will quit whining about us rebuilding without a franchise QB whom we took in the 4th all the while not winning him a super bowl.

See simple !
 
Here's what i say we do we give him a restructured contract for 17 million+5x61,000,000,000,000x577+1 round out the 8 and carry the 1 then add 3,000,000,000x7000 = 900,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000

Dont bother checking my math people it's correct.

Anyways we offer him that and maybe he will quit whining about us rebuilding without a franchise QB whom we took in the 4th all the while not winning him a super bowl.

See simple !
It's been one long offseason, huh? :toropalm::kitten:
 
I think they should give it to him. He's only got three years left, if we're lucky. He's got about $12M left in prorated roster bonus left, that is part of his cap number over the next three years.

He's got salaries of $10M, $10.5M, & $11M those three years.

His cap numbers will be $15.6M, $16.1M, & $14.7M

I'd give him a $16M signing bonus this year, adding a fourth year to his contract. Also reducing his salaries to $2M, $4M, $6M, & $8.7M

Then his cap numbers will be $12.7M, $12.7M, $12.7M, & $12.7M

We'll save $2.9M, $3.4, $2M for the first three years.

Cutting him three years from now, or trading him, or him retiring would cost us $10.7M against the cap (+ $2M)... Four years from now, it will cost us $4M (+ $8.7M).

So his current deal has him brining in $31.5M in new money.

My new deal, he'll be bringing in $28M in new money over the same time period (- $3.5M). $36.7M in new money if he stays 4 years.

If he decides to retire in 2016, or we cut or trade him in 2016 it will hurt. $16.7M in dead money.


No.
 
wait was my math not right ? Sorry left my solar calculator in the shade so i had to do the math by hand :texflag:

Yes to long !
There's math involved with the NFL? No wonder I was an undrafted/uninvited/never played after high school kinda guy...
 
I've been bouncing this AJ thing around in my head for awhile now.

If it was all about winning I can't imagine that he wouldn't be happy that the old regime was torn down.

I think he learned something from Ed Reed. Get your money while you still can.

He wants more guaranteed money because there is no guarantee that he will remain healthy.

You must admit that someone from the outside is going to have a different perspective than someone that is involved in a situation, even if both have similar thought processes. Just because we think it was a good move to rid ourselves of Kubiak and Schaub, it doesn't mean all the players do, especially when the alternative at QB is what we have now.

I think that we as a fan base aren't used to this kind of talk from a loyal player and some of us are overreacting (not specific to anybody just in general).
 
Obrien needs to have a private meeting with him and ask him if he wants a trade. if he says yes, then cash in on his name. if he says no or waivers/whines Obrien needs to tell him he is expected at each and every practice and if he doesn't show he will not play. that'll show this spoiled multi-millionaire ingrate who's the boss.
 
We can clearly see, that 2014 will be a season in which the offense will NOT be run through Dre. Instead of seeing 100 receptions, he's most likely going to get somewhere in the 50-70 range. Big OL, running backs that can catch, and monster-target tightends will be the focal point of this offense. More San Francisco, and less Baltimore when it comes to offensive style.

Dre wants out, but wants to get out without having the "diva" label put on him. Very interesting to see how this game plays out come mandatory training camp.
 
Obrien needs to have a private meeting with him and ask him if he wants a trade. if he says yes, then cash in on his name. if he says no or waivers/whines Obrien needs to tell him he is expected at each and every practice and if he doesn't show he will not play. that'll show this spoiled multi-millionaire ingrate who's the boss.


:backsout:
 
Obrien needs to have a private meeting with him and ask him if he wants a trade. if he says yes, then cash in on his name. if he says no or waivers/whines Obrien needs to tell him he is expected at each and every practice and if he doesn't show he will not play. that'll show this spoiled multi-millionaire ingrate who's the boss.

The guy that has taken pay cuts to stay on the team is an ingrate? Sounds like a HOF caliber player who is sick of losing to me.
 
We can clearly see, that 2014 will be a season in which the offense will NOT be run through Dre. Instead of seeing 100 receptions, he's most likely going to get somewhere in the 50-70 range. Big OL, running backs that can catch, and monster-target tightends will be the focal point of this offense. More San Francisco, and less Baltimore when it comes to offensive style.

Dre wants out, but wants to get out without having the "diva" label put on him. Very interesting to see how this game plays out come mandatory training camp.
Where do you get this idea from? I can't discern any offensive philosophy from what's been posted online.

I would actually put AJ's numbers in the 100+ receptions/1500+ yds area. As long as he isn't injured.
 
The guy that has taken pay cuts to stay on the team is an ingrate? Sounds like a HOF caliber player who is sick of losing to me.
The guy has restructured his contract several times to help the team. Please provide a link for where AJ actually took less money. I don't know that that ever happened.
 
LOL. I love Andre to death, and admit that he is the soul of this team.

But... no way would I do what you're suggesting.

We have restructured his contract over and over and over again. We have treated him very well. The one thing we have not done was fire the head coach when we should have. But that's all in the past.

No, love ya, 'Dre, but, it's time for the Texans to play hardball.

I'm way too excited about the possibility of a big, physical football team that O'Brien is assembling to worry about Andre. Either he gets on board, or the train leaves.
Guaranteeing a few million in a "sweetner" is not giving AJ new money. We have treated him well but he has produced and has been basically no problem playing in a prima donna position. We restructured his deal ONCE when his uncle agent got him a stupid contract. The other times IIRC were to create cap space. He benefited getting that $ sooner but it did help team.

I love ''Dre and he's been my favorite player, but I'm pretty cynical about this and have to put everything AJ has done for the team to one side. I don't really care about his legacy, the hall of fame, or what laundry he's wearing when he retires. What I care about is the fact that this team is rebuilding and apparently he doesn't want to be a part of that. We have to weigh up what's best for the team in the next few years: a disgruntled, aging wide receiver, or a 2nd round pick in 2015 plus extra cap room for the next 3 years. Given we're extremely unlikely to be relevant this season, I vote for the latter.
I understand AJ's position but the team's also. If you don't care about a players achievements other players will see that & it will not set well. I don't think Smith/O'Brien is caving in and are handling it in house for most part. Give me an aging "disgruntled" AJ over a 2nd round all day long. I think this will be resolved before season begins & I'm not freaking until then. There is a good chance we could be 5-0 with AJ
 
Guaranteeing a few million in a "sweetner" is not giving AJ new money. We have treated him well but he has produced and has been basically no problem playing in a prima donna position. We restructured his deal ONCE when his uncle agent got him a stupid contract. The other times IIRC were to create cap space. He benefited getting that $ sooner but it did help team.

I understand AJ's position but the team's also. If you don't care about a players achievements other players will see that & it will not set well. I don't think Smith/O'Brien is caving in and are handling it in house for most part. Give me an aging "disgruntled" AJ over a 2nd round all day long. I think this will be resolved before season begins & I'm not freaking until then. There is a good chance we could be 5-0 with AJ
That's why I would make him play this year and trade him next year. AJ will play hard in 2014 and get a good draft pick in 2015.
 
The guy has restructured his contract several times to help the team. Please provide a link for where AJ actually took less money. I don't know that that ever happened.

Larry Fitz signed a 7 year $113 mil contract. Andre Johnson signed a 7 year $67 mil contract. So he definitely took considerably less to stay in Houston, some people are quick to forget...:thinking:
 

Why not?

Makes no sense to pay the man a $10M salary this year, $10.5M salary next year, & $11.5M salary in 2016. That's the biggest part of his cap number.

Give him guaranteed money, it would only hurt us in 2015 or 2016 if he decides to hang it up, or we decide to trade him. For me, trading him is out of the question, not going to happen.

It would hurt us as far as taking a $16M cap hit with him gone. But we'll take a $7M or $8M cap hit (depending on when he quits) now if he decides to quit.
 
Larry Fitz signed a 7 year $113 mil contract. Andre Johnson signed a 7 year $67 mil contract. So he definitely took considerably less to stay in Houston, some people are quick to forget...:thinking:
I am posting an article that addresses not just your post but clarifies others also:

Johnson carries a salary cap charge in 2014 of $15,644,583 and a cash contract value of $11 million. If traded before June 1, Johnson’s cap charge for the Texans would be $11,964,166 representing a savings of $3,680,417 against the cap. If traded after June 1 the Texans would take a $4.644 million cap charge in 2014 and a $7.319 million charge in 2015. In either scenario the trade would help rather than hurt the Texans salary cap.
The more difficult aspect of the trade is to find a trade partner. Johnson has $34.5 million remaining on his contract, a huge number for a player that is about to turn 33 years old. While Johnson plays at a far higher level than his peers at that age, players like Anquan Boldin and Wes Welker are working for $6 million a season. To complicate matters Johnson would likely want an extension or some type of guarantee on his contract.
Only 12 potential destinations could absorb his $11 million salary without touching the contract. Of those 13 only the Bengals, Eagles, Packers , and Colts would be considered sure fire contenders and most of those squads are set at the WR position. Fringe playoff teams with the room would include the Jets, Dolphins, and Bills. Buffalo would certainly have no interest and Miami is already overspent at the position.
Johnson does risk money in a hold out. This was not the first time that Johnson had been unhappy with the Texans. Back in 2010 Johnson made it known he was unhappy with a contract extension that had multiple years left on it as lesser players began earning more money as the salary cap and importance of the wide receiver position grew. The Texans gave in that time, but in a very minimal way, which I’ll discuss below. To further protect themselves from a holdout threat they tied $250,000 in salary escalators and another $1 million in week 1 roster bonuses to offseason attendance.
There is no arguing the fact that Johnson has always been underpaid. He had been as productive as any of the top paid receivers in the NFL but never reached those financial thresholds. For players considering representing themselves in contract negotiations Johnson’s career should be studied closely and perhaps a warning sign for either not looking for an agent or at least consulting with someone well versed in the NFL contracts and the salary cap.
Johnson represented himself in 2007 when he signed a 6 year extension with the Texans. Johnson had two years remaining on his rookie contract at the time so this extension would take him to the age of 33, meaning it would be the only big contract of his career. Johnson had been scheduled to earn $15.7 million in the 2007 and 2008 seasons of his rookie contract and would have likely increased that number to $16.7 million via escalators.
In his negotiated extension he received a raise of just $3.325 million, none of which would be paid until 2008. He was guaranteed next to nothing and the contract structure was such that he never carried a cap hit in the extension years that would exceed $8.65 million. In addition the signing bonus was so small that he could have been released very quickly had he been injured or ineffective. For that tiny guarantee and raise he was locked in at a price of $7.468 million per year for the next 8 years.
The following season Larry Fitzgerald received a contract extension from the Arizona Cardinals that was worth $10 million a year and only added another two years onto Fitzgerald’s contract. Fitzgerald received $20 million in real guarantees and millions more in injury protection. Fitzgerald played on a better team and had better numbers but the contract terms were a major difference.
After back to back 1,500 yard seasons in 2008 and 2009, Johnson made it known he needed a new deal. The problem for Johnson was that the contract he negotiated for himself in 2007 was so bad that he had destroyed any leverage possible. This go around Johnson hired an agent but there is only so much that could be done. The Texans basically eased the situation adding another two years onto his contract to make him happy. In terms of base contract value Johnson only received a small raise. Originally set to earn $13 million in 2010 and 2011, Johnson would now earn $17 million, a $4 million raise. His 2012 through 2014 seasons remained identical.
Unlike other high end receivers Johnson’s contract contained escalator clauses that, if earned, would push his average contract value over the first five years of the deal to $50 million, thus matching Fitzgerald’s annual value of $10 million a season. To reach the full numbers Johnson would be required to finish in the top 5 in any of a number of receiving categories. Johnson ended up earning all but $2.2 million of the escalators. In addition Johnson stood to lose at least $1 million a season in the 2012 to 2014 seasons if he held out his services.
While the contract did earn Johnson some added guarantees they paled in comparison to other players and Johnson could still have easily been released after the 2011 or 2012 seasons. He was one of the best bargains in the NFL- a top quality player with almost no ability to hold out and playing under reasonable salary cap allocations. The Texans would make a mess of his contract over the years with constant restructures (his contract was reworked every year for cap relief), but the base deal was extremely team friendly.
While the deal would be a slight victory for Johnson it was short lived. Fitzgerald would put about 100 less receiving yards than Johnson in 2010 and 500 less yards than Johnson’s 2009 season he used as leverage for his contract, but would be rewarded with a monster contract in 2011 that averaged over $16 million a season with $45 million in various guarantees. Since that time Johnson has caught 21 more passes for 334 more yards than Fitzgerald. On a per game basis it’s no contest as Johnson averages 89.5 yards a game to just 66 yards a game for Fitzgerald. Despite that Johnson was paid just $36.8 million compared to $51.65 million for Fitzgerald from 2010 to 2013.
Since that time Johnson’s contract has been surpassed by the likes of Percy Harvin, Mike Wallace, and Dwayne Bowe, who have a total of five 1,000 yard seasons between the three of them. Johnson has seven. Of those seven, four are for more than 1,400 yards. It’s a travesty that Johnson has been paid the way he has, but these were mistakes or miscalculations that were made back in 2007 and more or less compromised his entire earning potential. Now he is left staring at a rebuilding team with no QB to throw him the ball. He knows odds are he’ll be released following the season but with the likes of Ryan Fitzpatrick throwing him the football his stats stand to suffer and as a 34 year old free agent teams are going to say that it was age related more than team related and he’ll finish his career as a bargain player for some other organization. He probably deserved better but the NFL is a tough business and players should beware of what one bad decision can do to your financial future.
http://overthecap.com/thoughts-andre-johnson-lessons-learned-contract/
 
The guy has restructured his contract several times to help the team. Please provide a link for where AJ actually took less money. I don't know that that ever happened.

Pay cuts, restructure, whatever... I have not seen him at any point make any out of the box demands that would rate him being called spoiled. I agree he should get on the field and play, but I don't know of him missing or no showing any required training. He missed voluntary drills. Maybe I missed him not going to something else.
 
Pay cuts, restructure, whatever... I have not seen him at any point make any out of the box demands that would rate him being called spoiled. I agree he should get on the field and play, but I don't know of him missing or no showing any required training. He missed voluntary drills. Maybe I missed him not going to something else.
And you still don't know of any, do you? Has he missed anything that's mandatory?
 
And you still don't know of any, do you? Has he missed anything that's mandatory?

My sarcasm sense is tingling...

I could look it up I suppose, but that is sooooo much work. I'd much rather hear it from you. I'm sure you could put some sort of spin on it to make me feel inadequate in my Texans fandom.

Oh wait... there it is... Vet Minicamp.

Sorry I don't keep up with every teeny-tiny detail. I'm sure that my little mistake won't overshadow the discussion the real Texan fans were having.

My bad.
 
I am posting an article that addresses not just your post but clarifies others also:

http://overthecap.com/thoughts-andre-johnson-lessons-learned-contract/

Just me speculating, but it sounds like not so great qb play, plus new style of offense and Dre being older has him worried that after this season his value might decrease by a lot.

So to me it makes sense that he either wants to be traded to a real contender or have more money guaranteed as a windfall...or maybe retire out of protest or just not wanting to go down that road.

Probably things that have crossed his mind.
 
Too late now because along with Fitzgerald, Andre WAS one of the two best WRs in the NFL - 'bout 5 to 7 years ago. Today there's half dozen to 10 receivers who are atleast as good and all younger. And it was his decision to go with the friend/relative on that big contract redo in '07, so he's only got himself to blame. And I just can't feel sorry for him because he's made > 50 million since coming into the league. Now his actions/behavior are starting to grate on some Texans fans, and you can count me in that group.
 
Too late now because along with Fitzgerald, Andre WAS one of the two best WRs in the NFL - 'bout 5 to 7 years ago. Today there's half dozen to 10 receivers who are atleast as good and all younger. And it was his decision to go with the friend/relative on that big contract redo in '07, so he's only got himself to blame. And I just can't feel sorry for him because he's made > 50 million since coming into the league. Now his actions/behavior are starting to grate on some Texans fans, and you can count me in that group.

^^This is how I feel as well. He's my favorite player, no doubt, but still. And honestly, right now he is not a HoF WR. Numbers just aren't there.
 
Fitzgerald signed his contract a year later than AJ.
http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/1575/andre-johnson
http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/1661/larry-fitzgerald

Some people are quick to stick their head up their a$$. I bet that leaves a $hitty taste in your mouth.

I really don't understand you point. Unless you're saying that one year made WR contracts appreciate by about $6-$7 million a year on average? Otherwise, my point stands that Johnson has been well underpaid for the production that he has given the Texans over the years.

http://overthecap.com/top-player-salaries.php?Position=WR

If you look at this list there are some WR's making more than AJ (ie everyone but Megatron and Fitz), none of whom deserve to be in terms of production and durability. The timing of there contracts is irrelevant, because that wasn't my argument. The main point is that AJ has clearly taken a considerable paycut during his stay with the Texans. I'm sure we can chalk much of it up to poor negotiation skills on Andre's part, but the Texans have gotten a bargain anyway you try to look at it.
 
You must admit that someone from the outside is going to have a different perspective than someone that is involved in a situation, even if both have similar thought processes. Just because we think it was a good move to rid ourselves of Kubiak and Schaub, it doesn't mean all the players do, especially when the alternative at QB is what we have now.



I think that we as a fan base aren't used to this kind of talk from a loyal player and some of us are overreacting (not specific to anybody just in general).


Any player who doesn't think we should have gotten rid of Schaub and Kubaik is a point-blank loser and needs to go. Period.
 
We can clearly see, that 2014 will be a season in which the offense will NOT be run through Dre. Instead of seeing 100 receptions, he's most likely going to get somewhere in the 50-70 range. Big OL, running backs that can catch, and monster-target tightends will be the focal point of this offense. More San Francisco, and less Baltimore when it comes to offensive style.



Dre wants out, but wants to get out without having the "diva" label put on him. Very interesting to see how this game plays out come mandatory training camp.


Yep, that's exactly where I think this team is headed. And, personally, I'm excited about it.
 
He wouldn't. Denver or New England would be another story.

I was waiting for an answer from houstonspartan which is who I was asking. Betting it has some connection to Manziel, but I'll wait for him to answer.

In regards to Denver or New England, I personally do not think they could afford him at this point with the FA moves that have already made.

Any player who doesn't think we should have gotten rid of Schaub and Kubaik is a point-blank loser and needs to go. Period.

Thank goodness we have super fans like you who can define for us all who is a loser, and who isn't. I wonder if there is a way to petition the NFL for a way to cut or trade certain fans.
 
As much as it would suck to see Dre go, I think it may be time to cut the cord and begin our rebuilding if at all possible since we may not be winning much the next year or two, possibly.

I don't want to see him go ever, but I think everyone would then know what this team is all about if we did trade him to a contender.
 
I was waiting for an answer from houstonspartan which is who I was asking. Betting it has some connection to Manziel, but I'll wait for him to answer.

In regards to Denver or New England, I personally do not think they could afford him at this point with the FA moves that have already made.



Thank goodness we have super fans like you who can define for us all who is a loser, and who isn't. I wonder if there is a way to petition the NFL for a way to cut or trade certain fans.

1) Yes, Manziel was my point. Andre loves the guy, and has made that known. Cleveland can afford him, and Andre may see this as a case of "Well, if I can't win a ring, I can at least have fun with a QB I like."

2) Yes, I stand by my point about Schaub and Kubiak. A player who pines for the glory days of that regime is a loser.
 
Obrien needs to have a private meeting with him and ask him if he wants a trade. if he says yes, then cash in on his name. if he says no or waivers/whines Obrien needs to tell him he is expected at each and every practice and if he doesn't show he will not play. that'll show this spoiled multi-millionaire ingrate who's the boss.

Get out
 
Nothing but respect for Andre and all of the great things that he has done with the Texans. No matter where he plays I have the utmost respect for the man.

The 2013 season was by far the biggest WTH season so far. Andre expected better........and so did just about everyone else.

I wish we could redo that season and just make one change: Pay Glover Quin instead of Ed Reed!
 
Nothing but respect for Andre and all of the great things that he has done with the Texans. No matter where he plays I have the utmost respect for the man.

The 2013 season was by far the biggest WTH season so far. Andre expected better........and so did just about everyone else.

I wish we could redo that season and just make one change: Pay Glover Quin instead of Ed Reed!

I agree with all of this with an addition ; that being that the Texans have never paid as much attention to the importance of building a good offensive line as they should have and that hurt as much as the Ed Reed deal.
 
1) Yes, Manziel was my point. Andre loves the guy, and has made that known. Cleveland can afford him, and Andre may see this as a case of "Well, if I can't win a ring, I can at least have fun with a QB I like."

2) Yes, I stand by my point about Schaub and Kubiak. A player who pines for the glory days of that regime is a loser.

Where did AJ espouse his love for Manziel? Last thing I heard was AJ thought the 1st overall pick should be traded. If he was so love with Manziel he would have said Draft Manziel #1.

There is no way AJ wants to play in Cleveland, especially not because Manziel is there. Did you forget AJ said Keenum has an Aura about him? Please provide a link to the article or recording where AJ made his love for Manziel known.
 
Where did AJ espouse his love for Manziel? Last thing I heard was AJ thought the 1st overall pick should be traded. If he was so love with Manziel he would have said Draft Manziel #1.

There is no way AJ wants to play in Cleveland, especially not because Manziel is there. Did you forget AJ said Keenum has an Aura about him? Please provide a link to the article or recording where AJ made his love for Manziel known.

Sweet jesus, the "provide a link" gauntlet. Google it. He said that he'd probably trade the number one pick, but that Manziel is an exciting player. No, that is not flat-out saying he wants to play for him, but it's not that hard of a reach.

I love Andre, but, if he wants to go, GO. If he's sick of losing, I definitely respect and understand that, but, he should have made his thoughts known to Gary loser Kubiak.
 
Where did AJ espouse his love for Manziel? Last thing I heard was AJ thought the 1st overall pick should be traded. If he was so love with Manziel he would have said Draft Manziel #1.

There is no way AJ wants to play in Cleveland, especially not because Manziel is there. Did you forget AJ said Keenum has an Aura about him? Please provide a link to the article or recording where AJ made his love for Manziel known.

When I heard of AJ saying we should get out of the first overall pick I thought it was pretty obvious he wanted us to draft a QB in the first round, and since noone would have drafted a QB 1-1 this year, a trade down seemed the best way to get your QB and picking up some picks in the process.

I don't have any idea if this is what he was thinking, but it seems plausible.
 
Where did AJ espouse his love for Manziel? Last thing I heard was AJ thought the 1st overall pick should be traded. If he was so love with Manziel he would have said Draft Manziel #1.

There is no way AJ wants to play in Cleveland, especially not because Manziel is there. Did you forget AJ said Keenum has an Aura about him? Please provide a link to the article or recording where AJ made his love for Manziel known.

Man, please please please change your Avatar back.

The old one was awesome!

The new one makes me want to throw up.
 
Sweet jesus, the "provide a link" gauntlet. Google it.

People who get defensive about being called out for making factual statements like that without providing evidence tend to be full of ****.

And when asked pointedly about Manziel does anybody here think Dre is going to be like "Awwww that dude has character issues and he's short. He won't make it."? Because lol if so.
 
Have y'all seen this:

Texans Bias @TexansBias

Word around the league is Andre wants a black quarterback or he won't play for the Texans. Texans will be taking a good look at Vince Young



Texans Bias @TexansBias

Byron Leftwich will be privately working out for the Texans by the end of the week. #Texans #NFL
 
People who get defensive about being called out for making factual statements like that without providing evidence tend to be full of ****.

And when asked pointedly about Manziel does anybody here think Dre is going to be like "Awwww that dude has character issues and he's short. He won't make it."? Because lol if so.

LOL. Whatever, man.
 
1) Yes, Manziel was my point. Andre loves the guy, and has made that known. Cleveland can afford him, and Andre may see this as a case of "Well, if I can't win a ring, I can at least have fun with a QB I like."

Sweet jesus, the "provide a link" gauntlet. Google it. He said that he'd probably trade the number one pick, but that Manziel is an exciting player. No, that is not flat-out saying he wants to play for him, but it's not that hard of a reach.

Wanna see another Andre quote? (Well, okay, technically not another since you didn't actually provide one).
“I wasn’t surprised about it,” Johnson said. “You always see flashes from players in practice, preseason and different situations throughout the season. What he did during the preseason and the things you see from him in practice, the guy, he creates plays at times when things aren’t there. Like I said before, there’s just something about him. He did a great job.”
LINK

Now here's "another" Andre Quote:
“[Manziel] seems like a good kid. Very into football,” Johnson said. “He’s exciting. He’s an exciting player to watch. I enjoyed watching him in college. He doesn’t have the name Johnny Football for nothing. I think he’s a great player.”
LINK

I don't see that much difference between them (the first is about Case BTW).

I think reading anything into an athlete's response to one specific question is almost always a reach. If Andre wanted make his love for Manziel known, I don't think you'd currently be making excuses about a fairly standard request (at this board anyway) for a link.
 
James Palmer ‏@JPalmerCSN
"When he feels the situation is over and done with I'm sure he'll to be there." - Brian Cushing on Andre Johnson showing up at camp.

"Andre is going to do what he's going to do. We're very confident that everything is going to work." - Texans Brian Cushing on Andre Johnson

Johnathan Joseph said #Texans players don't have to worry about Andre Johnson. He's been a model teammate & citizen throughout his career.
Dave Zangaro ‏@DZangaro
Myers was speaking at his charity event on Wednesday night. He said he doesn't think Johnson's missing will be a distraction.

"I think anyone can understand the frustrations with Andre (Johnson) since being here since the beginning." Chris Myers
 
I'm getting really tired of Andre Johnson's ****. This is a team game, and Johnson is not above the team. He's under contract, and he needs to be at training camp. At this point, he's only worried about himself and not the team. That's a selfish player. If Andre misses TC, I wouldn't be surprised to see his play suffer.
 
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