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I have another question.

Was AJ so good that all our QBs only locked in on him.

Or does AJ look so good because all our QBs only looked for him?
 
& the next crest should be higher.

The tide is rising, baby.
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I know I will catch a ton of flak for saying this, but has it ever occurred to any of you that AJ might be fed up with the fan base, and the organization, and not all of these scenarios regarding QB's. rings, etc?

I am prety sure both AJ and Watt made it more than clear they were unhappy with the fan base last season with the way they cheered when Schaub was injured, and then the way they refused to show any respect for all of his years of service and allow Kubiak finish out the season. Cutting Daniels, and Manning, signing Fitzpatrick and a whole slew of other questionable actions this off season.

AJ said he thinks the Texans should trade the first pick. If he wanted a top tier QB that some of you think was actually in this draft, why would he call for trading the pick? It's clear to me he did not want a coaching change and all of the player turnover. One year removed for the franchises best season ever, and it's time to blow up the team? Yeah yeah, I know. 2-14 dude.

Even in his most recent comment AJ commented on having a 3rd head coach. He also seemed disappointed that he had only spoken with O'Brien once a week, or every couple of weeks. Perhaps he feels like he is being left out of the offense, or that he is next on the chopping block?

Seems to me AJ realizes that some of the people who make up this fan base are horrible, and do not deserve his loyalty because they will run him out of town like they have everyone else who did not meet their stringent criteria to be accepted as a Texans player. He is just beating the fans to the punch, and from the sound of some of these comments, it's clear he has a reason to believe that.

He sees what they did to Kubiak, Schaub, Daniels, Manning, Ryans just to name a few. He is smart enough to see the writing on the wall.

It sure will be interesting if he ends up on the Raiders like is being rumored. IMHO it would speak volumes about his feelings regarding the Texans fan base and organization, because outside of Raiders fans, there are few that would call the Raiders a contender right now. Because if it's all about winning, playoffs or winning a ring, he will not end up in Oakland, right?

Having said all that, it is my belief that AJ should finish out his contract. he has made plenty of quotes going back to the end of last season that he is under contract and has to play it out. He has also said he is ready to catch passes from whomever the Texans throw out there. But I cannot blame the guy for being disenchanted with the fan base, and Texans organization for the way they have handled themselves and treated some of the former players and coaches.

At least the Raiders fans love their team win or lose. They do not cheer when players are injured, or boo the starting QB when he trots out there no matter who it is. Sure all fans bases have their boo birds, or fair weather band wagon riders, but Texans fans seem to have an over abundance of them, which is evident from the long line of players they have run out of town. A large portion of the fan base made Houston look really bad nationally last season with the jersey burning, fans showing up at the starting QB's house yelling obscenities, cheering an injury and so on. Even the Rams players were commenting on how cold blooded that was. "That's messed up man"

Now before you guys starting spouting off about how much money AJ has been paid, or how he is lucky to play a kids game for a career, etc. just ask yourself. Would you rather play in Oakland, or Cleveland where the fan base support their team win or lose, or the Texans where one slip, and you are public enemy #1? Personally I would take the other teams. Dan Marino was one of the best QB's in the history of the NFL. He never won a ring. Barry Sanders, Earl Campbell. The list goes on and on. Winning is not everything.

AJ is incredibly rich, and he does not have to put up with that kind of treatment from fans. And I do not want to hear how you have a right to do those things because you buy tickets or gear. Nobody forces you to watch the games or buy the gear. When you buy a ticket to a movie, you do not get to decide how it ends, or who gets the girl, and the same hold true in the NFL. In real life, sometimes the good guy does not get the girl, or beat the bad guys. If you do not like the product, stop watching, stop buying the gear, but give the angry fan schtick a rest.

It's not a very smart way to attract quality players or coaches to the Texans if they know they are going to be devoured by fans who think they have a right to behave as some Texans (and Oilers) fans have.

I think there is anger amongst some of the fans because Dre is beating them to the punch. Only they can run a player out of town, none can leave on their own terms, not even the great Andre Johnson.

Mark my words, if fans continue down this road, JJ Watt is next to leave, and this city will become a place quality players and coaches will avoid regardless of $$$'s offered. I know I would.

Sorry about going over the 140 character limit mindset that has infected this world. Many of you can just respond with TLDR and add to your post count. It seems to be the only thing that is really important to some of you anyway.

It will be very interesting to see how this plays out over the next few weeks.

As you were...

I actually think this is a pretty good post, but the last bit isn't necessary or accurate IMO.
 
What makes you think that he works harder than the 53 other players on the team. Hate to break it to you they all work hard there may even be a few that work harder.
the fact that other players and coaches have said so thru the years.
 
It's May and Gary Kubiak is no longer the Head Coach of the Houston Texans. We've just had a very promising draft and for the first time in a long damn time I believe the Houston Texans have someone calling the football related shots who knows what he's trying to do and how to do it.

I'm not going to quit being optimistic for anyone and that includes Andre Johnson.

Part of the solution or part of the problem? What's it gonna be Dre?

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I'm with you, as weird as that sounds after our back and forth. I'm optimistic about the future, I'm just not overly optimistic about this upcoming season. I will keep my expectations down and will ultimately be happy with a playoff or near playoff appearance.
 
I have another question.

Was AJ so good that all our QBs only locked in on him.

Or does AJ look so good because all our QBs only looked for him?

When a QB throws for more than 4000 yards, and Dre only gets 1500 of those yards, can one really say the QB's only looked for him?

You can watch the coaches film to see how good AJ is, you do not need to look at his stats.
 
Why pay one guy, regardless of position or production, any more than anyone else? Everyone is just "doing their job".
Why are there MVP trophies for the season and the Super Bowl? Why is there a pro bowl game.
No need to give out any game balls for gutsy performances - they're just "doing their job".
Hell, why bother to put out the effort that yields an outstanding performance; they're just paying me to do my job, not to go above and beyond....

And you know what worries me is that O'Brien thinks this way too.

The description of a govt employee.

How do you know what BOB thinks?
 
I know I will catch a ton of flak for saying this, but has it ever occurred to any of you that AJ might be fed up with the fan base, and the organization, and not all of these scenarios regarding QB's. rings, etc?

I am prety sure both AJ and Watt made it more than clear they were unhappy with the fan base last season with the way they cheered when Schaub was injured, and then the way they refused to show any respect for all of his years of service and allow Kubiak finish out the season. Cutting Daniels, and Manning, signing Fitzpatrick and a whole slew of other questionable actions this off season.

AJ said he thinks the Texans should trade the first pick. If he wanted a top tier QB that some of you think was actually in this draft, why would he call for trading the pick? It's clear to me he did not want a coaching change and all of the player turnover. One year removed for the franchises best season ever, and it's time to blow up the team? Yeah yeah, I know. 2-14 dude.

Even in his most recent comment AJ commented on having a 3rd head coach. He also seemed disappointed that he had only spoken with O'Brien once a week, or every couple of weeks. Perhaps he feels like he is being left out of the offense, or that he is next on the chopping block?

Seems to me AJ realizes that some of the people who make up this fan base are horrible, and do not deserve his loyalty because they will run him out of town like they have everyone else who did not meet their stringent criteria to be accepted as a Texans player. He is just beating the fans to the punch, and from the sound of some of these comments, it's clear he has a reason to believe that.

He sees what they did to Kubiak, Schaub, Daniels, Manning, Ryans just to name a few. He is smart enough to see the writing on the wall.

It sure will be interesting if he ends up on the Raiders like is being rumored. IMHO it would speak volumes about his feelings regarding the Texans fan base and organization, because outside of Raiders fans, there are few that would call the Raiders a contender right now. Because if it's all about winning, playoffs or winning a ring, he will not end up in Oakland, right?

Having said all that, it is my belief that AJ should finish out his contract. he has made plenty of quotes going back to the end of last season that he is under contract and has to play it out. He has also said he is ready to catch passes from whomever the Texans throw out there. But I cannot blame the guy for being disenchanted with the fan base, and Texans organization for the way they have handled themselves and treated some of the former players and coaches.

At least the Raiders fans love their team win or lose. They do not cheer when players are injured, or boo the starting QB when he trots out there no matter who it is. Sure all fans bases have their boo birds, or fair weather band wagon riders, but Texans fans seem to have an over abundance of them, which is evident from the long line of players they have run out of town. A large portion of the fan base made Houston look really bad nationally last season with the jersey burning, fans showing up at the starting QB's house yelling obscenities, cheering an injury and so on. Even the Rams players were commenting on how cold blooded that was. "That's messed up man"

Now before you guys starting spouting off about how much money AJ has been paid, or how he is lucky to play a kids game for a career, etc. just ask yourself. Would you rather play in Oakland, or Cleveland where the fan base support their team win or lose, or the Texans where one slip, and you are public enemy #1? Personally I would take the other teams. Dan Marino was one of the best QB's in the history of the NFL. He never won a ring. Barry Sanders, Earl Campbell. The list goes on and on. Winning is not everything.

AJ is incredibly rich, and he does not have to put up with that kind of treatment from fans. And I do not want to hear how you have a right to do those things because you buy tickets or gear. Nobody forces you to watch the games or buy the gear. When you buy a ticket to a movie, you do not get to decide how it ends, or who gets the girl, and the same hold true in the NFL. In real life, sometimes the good guy does not get the girl, or beat the bad guys. If you do not like the product, stop watching, stop buying the gear, but give the angry fan schtick a rest.

It's not a very smart way to attract quality players or coaches to the Texans if they know they are going to be devoured by fans who think they have a right to behave as some Texans (and Oilers) fans have.

I think there is anger amongst some of the fans because Dre is beating them to the punch. Only they can run a player out of town, none can leave on their own terms, not even the great Andre Johnson.

Mark my words, if fans continue down this road, JJ Watt is next to leave, and this city will become a place quality players and coaches will avoid regardless of $$$'s offered. I know I would.

Sorry about going over the 140 character limit mindset that has infected this world. Many of you can just respond with TLDR and add to your post count. It seems to be the only thing that is really important to some of you anyway.

It will be very interesting to see how this plays out over the next few weeks.

As you were...

Schaub/Kubiak's butthurt cousin?

Fans are going to complain and boo when their team is 2-14. As they should. I don't get where fans cheered when Schaub got hurt. They cheered when he was walking off of the field.

As far as AJ leaving this is really about $$$$ and I don't blame the Texans for not extending him. He's under a cap killer deal as it it right now. Extending him would be foolish. Your probably right about Watt, hopefuly he wants to leave after a 12 yr stint.

FA's will go where the $$$$ is and AJ's bloated deal is a big reason why the Texans cant be players in FA (Smith's fault) and improve the team. If Smith can find a sucker to take the AJ contract off of his hands and Smith uses the $$$$ saved in the FA market the team will be better off in the long run.

BOB is finally trying to build the team the right way. IMHO (Trenches 1st) Atleast he has a plan and your attitude towards winning perplexes me.

Winning is the only thing it's why they keep score. McNair/BOB/Smith aren't running a daycare here. Either produce or your out. Which is how it should've been for the last 8 yrs. Or atleast that's how I hope the new regime is looking at things.
 
According to Arian, AJ isn't just quiet to the media...

Dre talks 3 times a year. Not gon waste one time on me. RT @JeremiahTovar: @ArianFoster talk to Dre yet about staying in Houston, yet?
 
Is somebody going to man up and apologize to mussop? Seriously, if you disparaged the man's integrity, you need to take your medicine, otherwise, it's your integrity that's going to be judged.
 
The description of a govt employee.

How do you know what BOB thinks?
Because I'm going by what he's said and done.
Wasn't it O'Brien that immediately removed all signs and trophies indicating any individual accomplishments??
the answer is yes
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That is how I know what he thinks; at least on this subject.

And what's next, no game balls?
Giving out a game ball would be putting some individual above the team.
O'Brien doesn't believe in that.

How about contract incentives for yards gained or sacks gotten or turnovers forced? Those are individual stats too. Are those personal, and therefore individual, incentives verboten now?
 
I have another question.

Was AJ so good that all our QBs only locked in on him.

Or does AJ look so good because all our QBs only looked for him?

Neither. AJ is so good it would be idiocy not to throw to him. A few times over the years I have posted stats showing our QBs distributed the ball in line with other QBs. AJ just makes more opportunities and more of them. Honestly, haven't there been a bunch of times you were screaming at a QB to throw the ball to AJ because you could see him open and the QB didn't?
 
Maybe the uproar about what AJ has said is because it reminds all of us the Texans have been bad most of their existence and currently are highly unlikely to even make the playoffs this year, with the Super Bowl just a dream. Perhaps AJ speaks for many Texans’ fans but we just don’t like to hear it from the player we admire most. We all know it, but hearing it from AJ is unpleasant.
 
Is somebody going to man up and apologize to mussop? Seriously, if you disparaged the man's integrity, you need to take your medicine, otherwise, it's your integrity that's going to be judged.
A few people have done so in past pages.
Maybe some folks sent P/Ms to him.
And not everyone attacked him. I didn't. I thought it was plausible.
 
I know I will catch a ton of flak for saying this, but has it ever occurred to any of you that AJ might be fed up with the fan base, and the organization, and not all of these scenarios regarding QB's. rings, etc?

I am prety sure both AJ and Watt made it more than clear they were unhappy with the fan base last season with the way they cheered when Schaub was injured, and then the way they refused to show any respect for all of his years of service and allow Kubiak finish out the season. Cutting Daniels, and Manning, signing Fitzpatrick and a whole slew of other questionable actions this off season.

AJ said he thinks the Texans should trade the first pick. If he wanted a top tier QB that some of you think was actually in this draft, why would he call for trading the pick? It's clear to me he did not want a coaching change and all of the player turnover. One year removed for the franchises best season ever, and it's time to blow up the team? Yeah yeah, I know. 2-14 dude.

Even in his most recent comment AJ commented on having a 3rd head coach. He also seemed disappointed that he had only spoken with O'Brien once a week, or every couple of weeks. Perhaps he feels like he is being left out of the offense, or that he is next on the chopping block?

Seems to me AJ realizes that some of the people who make up this fan base are horrible, and do not deserve his loyalty because they will run him out of town like they have everyone else who did not meet their stringent criteria to be accepted as a Texans player. He is just beating the fans to the punch, and from the sound of some of these comments, it's clear he has a reason to believe that.

He sees what they did to Kubiak, Schaub, Daniels, Manning, Ryans just to name a few. He is smart enough to see the writing on the wall.

It sure will be interesting if he ends up on the Raiders like is being rumored. IMHO it would speak volumes about his feelings regarding the Texans fan base and organization, because outside of Raiders fans, there are few that would call the Raiders a contender right now. Because if it's all about winning, playoffs or winning a ring, he will not end up in Oakland, right?

Having said all that, it is my belief that AJ should finish out his contract. he has made plenty of quotes going back to the end of last season that he is under contract and has to play it out. He has also said he is ready to catch passes from whomever the Texans throw out there. But I cannot blame the guy for being disenchanted with the fan base, and Texans organization for the way they have handled themselves and treated some of the former players and coaches.

At least the Raiders fans love their team win or lose. They do not cheer when players are injured, or boo the starting QB when he trots out there no matter who it is. Sure all fans bases have their boo birds, or fair weather band wagon riders, but Texans fans seem to have an over abundance of them, which is evident from the long line of players they have run out of town. A large portion of the fan base made Houston look really bad nationally last season with the jersey burning, fans showing up at the starting QB's house yelling obscenities, cheering an injury and so on. Even the Rams players were commenting on how cold blooded that was. "That's messed up man"

Now before you guys starting spouting off about how much money AJ has been paid, or how he is lucky to play a kids game for a career, etc. just ask yourself. Would you rather play in Oakland, or Cleveland where the fan base support their team win or lose, or the Texans where one slip, and you are public enemy #1? Personally I would take the other teams. Dan Marino was one of the best QB's in the history of the NFL. He never won a ring. Barry Sanders, Earl Campbell. The list goes on and on. Winning is not everything.

AJ is incredibly rich, and he does not have to put up with that kind of treatment from fans. And I do not want to hear how you have a right to do those things because you buy tickets or gear. Nobody forces you to watch the games or buy the gear. When you buy a ticket to a movie, you do not get to decide how it ends, or who gets the girl, and the same hold true in the NFL. In real life, sometimes the good guy does not get the girl, or beat the bad guys. If you do not like the product, stop watching, stop buying the gear, but give the angry fan schtick a rest.

It's not a very smart way to attract quality players or coaches to the Texans if they know they are going to be devoured by fans who think they have a right to behave as some Texans (and Oilers) fans have.

I think there is anger amongst some of the fans because Dre is beating them to the punch. Only they can run a player out of town, none can leave on their own terms, not even the great Andre Johnson.

Mark my words, if fans continue down this road, JJ Watt is next to leave, and this city will become a place quality players and coaches will avoid regardless of $$$'s offered. I know I would.

Sorry about going over the 140 character limit mindset that has infected this world. Many of you can just respond with TLDR and add to your post count. It seems to be the only thing that is really important to some of you anyway.

It will be very interesting to see how this plays out over the next few weeks.

As you were...

MSR
 
First few pages of this thread are pretty funny.

People making comments about Mussop, his source....


Everyone knows it all. LOL.
 
I know I will catch a ton of flak for saying this, but has it ever occurred to any of you that AJ might be fed up with the fan base, and the organization, and not all of these scenarios regarding QB's. rings, etc?

I am prety sure both AJ and Watt made it more than clear they were unhappy with the fan base last season with the way they cheered when Schaub was injured, and then the way they refused to show any respect for all of his years of service and allow Kubiak finish out the season. Cutting Daniels, and Manning, signing Fitzpatrick and a whole slew of other questionable actions this off season.

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Flak? No. All have their opinions so nothing wrong with that. But, yes, I think you're exaggerating a bit in this. First, Watt said the opposite of what you are stating. He stated he understands the fans feelings and that they (the team) are not doing their part. They spoke against the cheering of Schaub's injury obviously as who wouldn't. But both said it was a part or minority of the fanbase. Dre said it 'wasn't all the fans' and J.J. Watt said 'very very small minority' so they appear to be more understanding to it than you are giving them credit for. As for boo'ing team lack of success, yes, Watt said the complete opposite of what you said and there was even a thread on it here on how he understand the frustrations and shares them.

Two, you're pushing it on fanbases. I highly doubt that plays into account because it happens all over the league. You tried the Browns and Raiders as examples. You do know those two fanbases, while they support their team (just like we do), they have boo'd the living hell out of their teams right? Browns fans have made some of the best jokes about their own team and talks bad about them. Raiders too. Case in point below:

http://blog.sfgate.com/raiders/2013/12/16/dennis-allen-understands-why-fans-are-booing/

Well, no … he wouldn’t, but Allen understands why the home fans booed early on and again late in the 56-31 loss to the Chiefs on Sunday.
“This is a loyal, passionate fan base and they’re hungry for wins,’’ Allen said. “I understand that, I think our whole team understands that and I think our whole organization understands that. …
“I understand the fans reaction. We have the same frustration. We want to win. Unfortunately we haven’t been able to get it done.’’

Point is...fans boo. You know what fans boo'd last year? Patriots fans. Yes, they boo'd their team last year. Steelers fans have done it. Heck, they had their own fans pour beer on one of their players and leave feces at the doorstep of another. And who do you think is among the top fanbases? Steelers.

So basically acting as if the Texans fanbase is some horrible horrible thing is a stretch. Every fanbase has folks that can act in such a way and when you don't win that will definitely happen. And saying this fanbase isn't loyal is a push too since it is one of the more profitable in the entire league (last checked 5th in the league). So this fanbase definitely supports its team.

As for what happened to past players/coaches...man, come on. This is the NFL of today and not yester years. Please point to where this doesn't happen every year with about every team unless you are winning? This is a business. Saying this effects his words is basically calling Dre stupid because he would have to be to not realize this is how the league is an operates on every single team out there. Every single one. They have caps and players that demand higher contracts simply because they feel they should get paid more than the next guy, etc. This is nothing that is distinguishable to just the Texans and saying it is, well, is just a far far stretch of the imagination.

So yeah, I definitely disagree. His issues were rather obvious last year. He's frustrated and tired of losing. He wants to win a ring and not be on a team he feels is rebuilding. He even said it in his comments:

"I just look at my career … I've only been to the playoffs twice. We've only had three winning seasons," Johnson, 32, said. "I don't think any player wants to experience that. I think over time it can become very frustrating. And this offseason has been very frustrating for me - beginning of the offseason, I should say. That's just kind of where I'm at right now."

So what is the point of over-analyzing it? He laid it out right there.
 
AJ said he thinks the Texans should trade the first pick. If he wanted a top tier QB that some of you think was actually in this draft, why would he call for trading the pick? It's clear to me he did not want a coaching change and all of the player turnover.

And this is why he a player and not a GM. It was time. If he doesn't want to play anymore, he can retire. If he wants to be traded, he can request a trade.

If he was serious about leaving, he would have made such wishes very clear well before the draft. There was even extra time.

He was very excited when Ed Reed was signed, and very upset when he was let go. But that wasn't on OB's watch. AJ is frustrated -- we get it. Maybe a contending team loses their #1 and offers up a 2nd round pick for AJ in the middle of the 2014 season. Who knows?
 
And this is why he a player and not a GM. It was time. If he doesn't want to play anymore, he can retire. If he wants to be traded, he can request a trade.

If he was serious about leaving, he would have made such wishes very clear well before the draft. There was even extra time.

He was very excited when Ed Reed was signed, and very upset when he was let go. But that wasn't on OB's watch. AJ is frustrated -- we get it. Maybe a contending team loses their #1 and offers up a 2nd round pick for AJ in the middle of the 2014 season. Who knows?

At the end of the day what AJ has to realize the grass is never greener , the Houston fans are tame and usually supportive to a fault , and we love football .
 
Andrew Jackson?

Aunt Jamima?

Angelina Jolie?

Ask Jeeves?

Air Jordan?

Amazing Johnathan?

Stop me when I guess right...

Alan Jackson ?


He's been playing on a field off the strip for ten years in Houston
Every night he looks in the mirror and he only ages
He's been readin' about Nashville and all the records and everybody's happy
Says, I'm a simple guy myself, grew up in Miami .

So he packs his bags to try his hand
Says this might be my last chance

he's gone Carson Palmer, look at the coot
he's gone Carson Palmer back to his roots
he's gone Carson Palmer , a new kind of suit
he's gone Palmer here he comes
 
I'll take Angelina Jolie in a skimpy nightie for 500 Alex.
:D

I was going to run with a football metaphor using tight ends and going deep, but I'm not smart enough to word it in a way that would be appropriate for our younger viewers. :runaway:
 
I was going to run with a football metaphor using tight ends and going deep, but I'm not smart enough to word it in a way that would be appropriate for our younger viewers. :runaway:
Heh...
I, too, will refrain from further elaboration.


edit:
for the record, I had to google Amazing Johnathan
 
You just described every post you've ever posted.

I hope this is all BS Johnson has been my favorite Texan for years. Look at my avatar. And yes it was a "reliable friend" who told me this. Not trying to act like I have some inside source. I'm going to pm a couple of people and tell them the entire story and that will be the last I ever bring it up. It's a no win for me. If it's true then my favorite player retires. If it isn't true I'm sure I'll get ridiculed for this for a long time. In hindsight I guess I was stupid for wanting to share what I thought was reliable information about the team and one of its all time best players with people that I have talked texans football with for years.

Lesson learned.

Looks like I need to eat some crow. I apologize. I am shocked, surprised and feel like my dog has been kicked. I understand AJ being frustrated, but I really am not a fan of taking things public like this. If he has issues, talk to Bob, OBrien and Smith. Keep this in house. I hope he works it out and shows up and our team (offense) gets better and starts to win games again. As they say, winning cures all.

But, I will say it again, I am sorry for being a jerk, your source panned out.
 
(on his thoughts on what Andre Johnson said earlier in the week about being unsure if Houston is still the place for him) “I’m not going to comment on what Andre said. I think I’ll let Andre speak for himself. I have a tremendous amount of respect for Andre and his career here in Houston. The conversations that Andre and I have had have been very positive about what we’re doing here as a team and obviously offensively, what we’re doing here. We’ve had good communication, but as far as what Andre said, I’ll let him speak for himself. I can only tell you, from my end, we’ve had good, positive communication.”

(on if he expects Andre Johnson to be there for training camp) “Again, we’re going to continue to communicate. Like I said, we’ve had good discussions. We’ve had good talks. We’ve spoken quite a bit. We’ll continue to do that.”
 
Andre Johnson can't give up now
Star WR must cast frustrations aside and help Texans rally around new coach
Houston Texans wide receiver Andre Johnson has been one of the classiest players in the game over the past decade. That's why his controversial comments last week, when he openly wondered if Houston was still the right franchise for him, felt so out of character. They were words that displayed overflowing frustration and incredibly lousy timing. They also spoke to the biggest problem the Texans have faced over the past year: a serious lack of leadership.

As soon as Johnson uttered those statements earlier this week, he should've been thinking long and hard about the wisdom in that move. This is a guy who's been the best player in that franchise's history, and he sounded like a veteran who didn't want to embrace his responsibility as the Texans try to rebound from an abysmal 2-14 season.

Houston doesn't need Johnson whining about how bummed he's been over most of his 11 years with that organization. It needs him to rally his fellow teammates around the new foundation that first-year head coach Bill O'Brien is trying to establish...
...When the Cardinals went on their run to Super Bowl XLIII, it was largely because Fitzgerald took his game to another level with a rejuvenated Kurt Warner at quarterback. It's fair to say no receiver in NFL history has ever produced a postseason like Fitzgerald did that year. It's also accurate to state that Johnson, despite all his accomplishments, has never had that kind of impact on his own team.

The good news for Houston is that there is still plenty of time to get this issue resolved. The regular season is still four months away, and it's doubtful that Johnson will allow his frustration to linger that long. His focus by that point should be on what the Texans can do to move forward in a positive manner. That's where it should've been a few days ago, when he started answering questions about his current feelings about the organization.
 
meh.....we're in a new Texans era now. Embrace it or leave it behind you. I don't care anymore. I just want football to start and the Texans be competitive. I can learn new names or write them down on notes so I don't look stupid in here.
 
Andre Johnson can't give up now
Star WR must cast frustrations aside and help Texans rally around new coach
As soon as Johnson uttered those statements earlier this week, he should've been thinking long and hard about the wisdom in that move. This is a guy who's been the best player in that franchise's history, and he sounded like a veteran who didn't want to embrace his responsibility as the Texans try to rebound from an abysmal 2-14 season.

Then again, it could be the best thing to ever happen to this team. Imagine, a forever sunshiner, finally having enough. Then buying in, then stepping up his game. Could have a very positive effect. Could blow it all apart.

Nothing happens in a vacuum. Everything happens for a reason.
 
He's our Ernie Banks. A superstar player on mediocre teams that can't get out of their own way. It's a team game and losing starts to wear you out when you aren't playing for pure cash anymore and you can see the end of the career. I ain't gonna judge the guy who has been a shining light on this mediocre franchise. I just see that Houston has an iconic player in the same mold as the old Cubs franchise. Everyone called the Cubs lovable losers. I guess we can call our football version the Corporate milquetoast.

Personally I think people are making way too much out of his comments. Let the dude vent.
 
Guess my only issue with AJ will be if he misses any mandatory camps. If he did, and I were the Texans, he would be done. I wouldn't trade him, but wouldn't play him either. Career over.

He made a commitment and he either needs to say he wants to be traded and move on, or play. Doing it through the media would be a real bad scar on his reputation. All speculation at this point, but I hope he just goes to the organization like a man and either plays or asks out ... not just miss mandatory camps to make a point. That is setting a horrible example. Hopefully behind the scenes this is all being cleared up.
 
Guess my only issue with AJ will be if he misses any mandatory camps. If he did, and I were the Texans, he would be done. I wouldn't trade him, but wouldn't play him either. Career over.

He made a commitment and he either needs to say he wants to be traded and move on, or play. Doing it through the media would be a real bad scar on his reputation. All speculation at this point, but I hope he just goes to the organization like a man and either plays or asks out ... not just miss mandatory camps to make a point. That is setting a horrible example. Hopefully behind the scenes this is all being cleared up.

Miss a mandatory camp and you'd cut Andre Johnson?

No way.
 
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