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After the pro-day, Teddy started to fall hard based on what teams were saying about him.
Barring a trade back into the first round, doesn't look like any of the remaining teams will be drafting a QB. In other words, Teddy's going to fall out of the first round.
Did the teams get it wrong? After the pro-day, Teddy started to fall hard based on what teams were saying about him. Then there was more poor reports coming out about personal workouts. Then there was more poor reports pointing towards his demeanor & ability as a leader.
Did they get it wrong?
Before the pro-day, all we saw were the opinions of reporters, scout wannabees, & former scouts. No one associated with any particular team. They thought Bridgewater was the best QB in this draft, despite his extremely lean build, despite his questionable arm strength, despite the poor competition he faced, despite having the benefit of the #1 defense...
Were they right?
Of course time will tell, but we know for sure, the media did not read the perceived needs of the 32 teams correctly & the media did not read teams perception on QBs right.... at least not until the pro day.
What if we don't take Bridgewater or Carr? What if we take a linebacker or something and still grab one of the other QBs? Hm.
I would not mind that at all.
What if we don't take Bridgewater or Carr? What if we take a linebacker or something and still grab one of the other QBs? Hm.
****. We got DICKED.
I don't think we had any intention of going Bridgewater. I don't think we had any intention of moving up.
****. We got DICKED.
Nope. We just didn't want him. Seattle had to have called us and offered the same deal.
or the texans felt content that TB was going to slip to them.
Nope. We just didn't want him. Seattle had to have called us and offered the same deal.
Must be nice to be allowed in the war room and know what the Texans brass is doing.
...The Seahawks surely wanted the most they could get for the pick, so they more than likely didn't take the Vikings deal at first offer. They more than likely shopped it. Why wouldn't they shop it to the team coming up next to try and get more for the pick?
Yep, Vikings gave up the 108th pick... we have the 101st pick.
Must be nice to be allowed in the war room and know what the Texans brass is doing.
Really? So you think Seattle didn't think, "Hey, the Texans need a QB too. If we call them and tell them what Minnesota is doing, maybe they'll want to do it instead?"
It doesn't require faith in the Texans, it's only requires common sense from Seattle.
Bridgewater was diagnosed with an abnormal heart beat per kffl.
What a joke franchise. The Vikings and Browns want to win, the Texans just hold tight and hope.
Is that why they drafted Ponder & Weeden? Or did drafting 1st round QBs back then not mean what it means today?
& by the way, we're a five win team without Manziel or Bridgewater, how many games would we have won with Manziel? Bridgewater?
Don't get me wrong, I'd have loved to have had Manziel. I'm kinda pissed they didn't go get him. But drafting Manziel doesn't say, "Winning" to me. Not right away anyway.
I just don't understand the logic everyone is saying by downplaying Manziel/TB/Bortles.
Sure we can stock up on more defensive picks, that has worked for us in the past right?. Lets get a late round QB since Kaepernick and Wilson are having so much success right?, seems like only those two names keep appearing when referencing Successful late round QBs.
Im tired of the same thing over and over again. I cant look forward to the later part of the draft because to be honest, without using Google, I cant name any legit starters we have drafted past the third round in the past three years.
I guarantee you Bridgewater will not beat out Matt Cassel in Minnesota.
There isn't a QB in this draft that's anywhere near the prospect that Kaepernick or Wilson were. Even if there were, I doubt you'd be able to see them as you most likely didn't see them in 2011 & 2012 respectively.
& there's the problem right there. We haven't been very good at developing 3rd round or later prospects. Hopefully this new staff is better at communicating what they want in a prospect than the last regime was. Hopefully some of those later picks that did not fit with the old regime; Brandon Harris, Quessenberry at OT, Ben Jones... hopefully they'll fit with what this regime wants to do.
So I hope I am wrong about him and the Texans are right. It is true that TB can`t make all the throws, and after reading back some scouting reports of Brady Quinn, they don`t read that different (apart from Quinn having a strong arm and a big body). Still I wish him the best, he is a good kid.
Sorry bro, I was pissed and disappointed we were so close to getting Clowney and Teddy. You are right, Seattle would have contacted the Texans first and of course they declined.
What a joke franchise. The Vikings and Browns want to win, the Texans just hold tight and hope. What Clowns. Texans will win 5 games next year and McNair will give a 14 year extension to BoB. 0.9 seconds. This is Houston sports.
It's a pretty reasonable assumption, actually. The Seahawks surely wanted the most they could get for the pick, so they more than likely didn't take the Vikings deal at first offer. They more than likely shopped it. Why wouldn't they shop it to the team coming up next to try and get more for the pick?
Yep, Vikings gave up the 108th pick... we have the 101st pick.
Really? So you think Seattle didn't think, "Hey, the Texans need a QB too. If we call them and tell them what Minnesota is doing, maybe they'll want to do it instead?"
It doesn't require faith in the Texans, it's only requires common sense from Seattle.
Yep. I'm waiting for the Texans to make their "reach" pick for a QB and tell us it was who they wanted all along. They misssed a GOLDEN chance, and while irritated about it, I can't say I'm surprised.I just don't understand the logic everyone is saying by downplaying Manziel/TB/Bortles. They all bring something to the table that would have changed our franchise and made us better.
So, you know who'll be as good / better than Kaepernick and Wilson from the 2nd round on? If you can, you shouldn't be on here with us, but on a scouting team for an NFL franchise.100% false.
Yes, very early but Teddy looks like the real deal. He looks great. I think BOB and Smith screwed the pooch by not giving up a late round pick to draft him.
He could go on to win the Super Bowl for all I care... I'm not interested, never was. I don't mind being wrong, I'd rather be wrong & go down making decisions my gut tells me, than to go down reaching for a QB I don't believe in.
& I think it's pretty obvious he didn't believe in TeddyB.
I doubt OB will get fired if Bridgewater wins a Super Bowl. I don't believe Teddy winning a Super Bowl will prevent OB from winning a Super Bowl. He may very well have got fired if he drafted Bridgewater & couldn't make it work.
Would trading from 33 to 32 really be considered reaching?
Would trading from 33 to 32 really be considered reaching?
That makes no sense, because if teddy, who i wanted badly, becomes the next drew brees, i guarantee you that bob will and should be held to the fire for not considering Teddy when the Texans NEEDED A QB BADLY. Coaches get fired for decisions like that all the damn time.
Depends on how the Texans do. Fitz might be the next Rich Gannon, Mallet might be the next Brady, Savage might be the next Romo... it doesn't matter if OB is wrong about players we didn't get as long as he is right about the players we did get.
It does matter when everything materializes and the chances that fitz becomes the next gannon are slim and none and the chance is much greater that Teddy becomes the next drew brees. The law of averages are not on your side and you know it.