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mussop

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Ok three days before the draft. Here is your chance to "bang the table" for your guyS. I'll get as many as I can in.

Jared Abbrederis WR
Best route runner in this draft. Gets incredible separation. If he would have had a better QB his stats would have been unbelievable. In the game against Ohio ST, against one of the top corners in the Draft (Roby) He dominated that game. Abbrederis caught 10 passes for a career-best 207 yards and a score. He was open all day and really could have had 2 or three more TD’s and 7 or eight more catches if not for some horrible throws. I’m scared to death that The Colts are going to get this guy and he’s going to be the next Reggie Wayne. Yes that’s how much I like him. I really want him in the 4th but I would consider the 3rd round, depending on who's left.
 
He looks like a possession wr. When he was running vs man,he didn't create seperation. 4th or 5 rd for me. Tbh, I've never liked roby. He doesn't play to his measurables.
 
Matt Patchan

McCullers

Jerick McKinnon

Mike Campanaro

John Halapio

Beau Allen
 
Aj McCarron. Changed Alabama's run offense to one of the most balanced & prolific offenses in the league. He reads defenses, makes good decisions with the ball, leads his team on the field. He's not flashy, but he can & does make plays when needed. He's got that fire to be better, always pushing himself, always raising his level of play.
 
CJ Mosley

Best football player in this draft.


If he's still around in the 22-25 range , I'd like to see them move up from #33 and grab him.
 
leebigeztx said:
He looks like a possession wr. When he was running vs man,he didn't create seperation. 4th or 5 rd for me. Tbh, I've never liked roby. He doesn't play to his measurables.
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Didn't really start this to discuss our evaluations. This is a chance for everyone to point out who they think are good prospects and have reference to it without having to search entire board. Kinda a reference to your final thoughts On prospects in this draft.

But ok. Yes I also said I really want him in the 4th but I would consider him in the third depending on who's there. So I think we are close on where he should go. Now, possession WR, yes I guess you could call him that. It's not like that is a bad thing. He would be great in the slot playing the Welker role. He's quicker than fast, runs better routes than anyone in this draft. Not worried about him getting jammed. Is shifty enough to get by most jams. Like I said he reminds me of Wayne when he came out.
 
thunderkyss said:
Aj McCarron. Changed Alabama's run offense to one of the most balanced & prolific offenses in the league. He reads defenses, makes good decisions with the ball, leads his team on the field. He's not flashy, but he can & does make plays when needed. He's got that fire to be better, always pushing himself, always raising his level of play.
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Really? What's next, Texian banging on Bortles? :cowboy1:

How about someone not so obvious.
 
1. Christian Jones, I know he failed a drug test but damn can he play.
2. Allen Robinson. 3rd best Wr in my book.
3. Deone Buchannon. I love this dude. If we don't take a Qb at 33 give me him.
4. Kelcy Quarles
 
Andre Williams.

Talk about Luv Ya Blue, this guy can bring it back to Houston. Tough, tough runner. Big time yards after contact. Not flashy, but you want to watch him run just the same.


Those are the two guys I think we've got to come away with in this draft. McCarron & Williams. I'm open on other positions of need, but I'll bang the table for McCarron & Williams.
 
coon said:
1. Christian Jones, I know he failed a drug test but damn can he play.
2. Allen Robinson. 3rd best Wr in my book.
3. Deone Buchannon. I love this dude. If we don't take a Qb at 33 give me him.
4. Kelcy Quarles
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Buchannon is the best safety in the draft to me. He can play deep middle,hash,in the box. He forces fumbles and he has more ints than any db in the draft. Like him a lot.
 
Any or as many of these dudes would really make this draft for me.

Aaron Donald - upgrade Antonio Smith who can kick inside
Anthony Barr - OLB high ceiling who kicks Brooks inside
Deone Bucannon - takes over secondary
Jordan Matthews - looks like a #1 to recharge Andre
Bishop Sankey - dynamic rb with a great future
Joel Bitonio - not pretty but effective & reliable
Ja'Waun James - franchise RT without the price tag
CJ Fiedorowicz - bigger, bader than Owen Daniels
Tajh Boyd - looks like playmaker to me, hook him back up w/DeAndre
Yawin Smallwood - length, size in a mans league
 
mussop said:
Didn't really start this to discuss our evaluations. This is a chance for everyone to point out who they think are good prospects and have reference to it without having to search entire board. Kinda a reference to your final thoughts On prospects in this draft.

But ok. Yes I also said I really want him in the 4th but I would consider him in the third depending on who's there. So I think we are close on where he should go. Now, possession WR, yes I guess you could call him that. It's not like that is a bad thing. He would be great in the slot playing the Welker role. He's quicker than fast, runs better routes than anyone in this draft. Not worried about him getting jammed. Is shifty enough to get by most jams. Like I said he reminds me of Wayne when he came out.
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I never said there was anything wrong with him. If he was there in the 4th,that's a value pick. I don't know about the reggie wayne part,but that's cool.
 
Stanley Jean-Baptiste

i have a very strong Nnamdi Asomugha feel about him. zone defenses arent having the effect they used do, you need a great pass rush paired with corners who can play on the line of scrimmage. jean-baptiste i believe is one of those guys.

edit: i would be banging the table if he were still there in the 3rd or late second. there are enough risks that i'd not want to reach at 2-1.
 
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Anyone with a relentless motor. I don't know these players specifically but that's my only requirement. We need to build an entire ****ing team of JJ Watts and Brian Cushings.
 
1. Christian Jones-OLB, great size, athleticism, and he'd be great if moved inside.
2. Telvin Smith-OLB, he and Jones can actually play both ILB and OLB, great speed and tenacity.
3. JaWaun James-OT, best RT in this draft and could anchor the right side for the next 10+ yrs.
4. Jared Abbrederis-WR, he'd look really good in the slot for the Texans.
5. Teddy Bridgewater-QB, I don't buy all the media driven BS, 2 yrs. of great game film trump a very average Pro Day. Reads a defense, call his own plays, calls audibils at LOS, athletic, smart, he's got it all.
6. Keith McGill-CB, tall very athletic CB with good hips and good speed.
7. Deandre Coleman-DT, great size but not alot on pass rush but holds the LOS and plays the run well. Quality DT in the later rounds.
 
Guys that I like way more than the consensus. Would love to have any of them on the Texans.

QB - Keith Wenning
RB - Charles Sims
WR - Donte Moncrief
TE - C.J. Fiedorowicz
OT - Billy Turner
DE - Stephon Tuitt
DE - DeAndre Coleman
OLB - Chris Smith
CB - E.J. Gaines
S - Deone Bucannon
 
If I had to bang the table for one guy it's Aaron Donald.

Adding others... it's tough and I have too many more... outside of first two, tried more for more guys you're not hearing about from talking heads and who might fit with us:

Dee Ford, Jeremiah Attaochu, Prince Shembo
Aaron Colvin, Pierre Desir, Nevin Lawson
Justin Ellis, George Uko
Christian Kirksey, Preston Brown, Jordan Zumwalt
Keith Wenning
James White
Rob Blanchflower(my Mr. Irrelevant)
Bruce Ellington, Michael Campanero, Cody Latimer, Jarvis Landry, Josh Huff, Jalen Saunders
Billy Turner, Gabe Jackson, Michael Schofield, John Urshel(long shot Texans)
 
Add I'd love for one team to draft Lamin Barrow and Yawin Smallwood just to hear their announcer saying Lamin, no Yawin, nope it's Lamin... or Smallwood laid the wood... :ahhaha:




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Dri Archer, WR/RB, Kent State
Height: 5-8. Weight: 173.
40 Time: 4.26.
Projected Round (2014): 3-4.

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5/6/14: Archer blazed the fastest 40 time of any prospect at the Combine. He also did well in the field drills and the bench press with a shocking total of 20 reps of 225 pounds. The Combine really helped him. A lot of teams brought Archer in for pre-draft visits.

Archer is a small speed receiver. He dealt with an ankle injury in the early going of 2013 and missed a few games. The junior returned to field in impressive fashion against Western Michigan with six carries for 73 yards and four receptions for 48 yards and a touchdown.

Archer recorded 68 carries for 527 yards and six touchdowns this year. As a receiver, he hauled in 25 passes for 327 yards and four scores. Archer ran for 1,429 yards on only 159 carries for an average of nine yards per carry in 2012. The sophomore also caught 39 passes for 561 yards. He totaled 20 touchdowns (16 rushing, four receiving). Archer contributed 246 yards rushing (4.2 average) and 16 receptions for 75 yards (four total touchdowns) in 2011.

Archer's best fit in the NFL would probably be as a slot receiver.
 
1. ILB- Chris Borland, Wisc. - Loved watching this dude play. Disappointing 40 time, but his play on the field is much faster, imo

2. G/C - David Yankey, Stanford - Nice feet and power

3. DT/NT - DaQuan Jones, Penn St. - Imo, he can do it all. A little pass rush and good against the run

4. CB - Phillip Gaines, Rice - Fast, good size and covers well. Needs to be a bit more physical in the run game
 
My favorite guy at each position. I'd bang the table for any one of them to be on the Texans.

QB - Teddy Bridgewater
RB - Charles Sims
WR - Sammy Watkins
TE - Austin Seferian-Jenkins
OT - Antonio Richardson
OG - Xavier Su'a-Filo
C - Weston Richburg

DE - Stephon Tuitt
NT - Zack Kerr
OLB - Khalil Mack
ILB - C.J. Mosley
CB - Kyle Fuller
S - Deone Bucannon
 
Greg Robinson: The true once in a generation talent in this draft. Best run blocker to come out of college in years with the athleticism and upside to be a premier pass blocker as well.

Time for the Texans to be the bully. Time to get our enforcer. Greg Robinson #1 2014!!!
 
Playoffs said:
If I had to bang the table for one guy it's Aaron Donald.

Adding others... it's tough and I have too many more... outside of first two, tried more for more guys you're not hearing about from talking heads and who might fit with us:

Dee Ford, Jeremiah Attaochu, Prince Shembo
Aaron Colvin, Pierre Desir, Nevin Lawson
Justin Ellis, George Uko
Christian Kirksey, Preston Brown, Jordan Zumwalt
Keith Wenning
James White
Rob Blanchflower(my Mr. Irrelevant)
Bruce Ellington, Michael Campanero, Cody Latimer, Jarvis Landry, Josh Huff, Jalen Saunders
Billy Turner, Gabe Jackson, Michael Schofield, John Urshel(long shot Texans)
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Michael Schofield looks pretty good when I watched Michigan.

Granted, he played RT while Levan played LT; Schofield handled his position better than Levan handled his.

I think I like Schofield better than Quiz.
Hope the Texans draft him at the top of the fifth; however, I read that his stock has risen quite a bit.
He won't last that long if the report of his workout was really on point.
 
76Texan said:
Michael Schofield looks pretty good when I watched Michigan.

Granted, he played RT while Levan played LT; Schofield handled his position better than Levan handled his.

I think I like Schofield better than Quiz.
Hope the Texans draft him at the top of the fifth; however, I read that his stock has risen quite a bit.
He won't last that long if the report of his workout was really on point.
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There he is. Welcome back, 76T! :handshake:
 
Alright heres my guys. I would bang the table for any of these guys at the listed rounds.

QUARTERBACKS
PROSPECT SCHOOL GRADE
1 BLAKE BORTLES UCF 1st
2. JOHNNY MANZIEL Texas A&M 1st
3. TEDDY BRIDGEWATER Louisville 1st
4. JIMMY GAROPPOLO Eastern Illinois 2nd
5. A.J. McCARRON Alabama 3rd
6. ZACH METTENBERGER LSU 3rd
7. AARON MURRAY Georgia 3rd
8. TOM SAVAGE Pittsburgh 5th
9. BRETT SMITH Wyoming 5th
10. DAVID FALES San Jose State 5th
11. LOGAN THOMAS Virginia Tech 5th
12. JEFF MATHEWS Cornell (NY) 7th
13. TAJH BOYD Clemson PFA
14. Dustin Vaughan West Texas A&M PFA

RUNNING BACKS
PROSPECT SCHOOL GRADE
1. BISHOP SANKEY Washington 2nd
2. TRE MASON Auburn 3rd
3. KA’DEEM CAREY Arizona 3rd
4. JEREMY HILL LSU 3rd
5. CARLOS HYDE Ohio State 2nd
6. ANDRE WILLIAMS Boston College 4th
7. LACHE SEASTRUNK Baylor 4th
8. CHARLES SIMS West Virginia 5th
9. . TERRANCE WEST Towson (MD) 5th
10. STORM JOHNSON UCF 5th
11. JAMES WHITE Wisconsin 6th


WIDE RECEIVERS
PROSPECT SCHOOL GRADE
1. SAMMY WATKINS Clemson 1st
2. MIKE EVANS Texas A&M 1st
3. BRANDIN COOKS Oregon State 1st
4. ODELL BECKHAM LSU 1st
5. MARQISE LEE USC 2nd
6. ALLEN ROBINSON Penn State 2nd
7. KELVIN BENJAMIN Florida State 2nd
8. CODY LATIMER Indiana 2nd
9. DAVANTE ADAMS Fresno State 2nd
10. JARED ABBREDERIS Wisconsin 3rd
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TIGHT ENDS
PROSPECT SCHOOL GRADE
1. ERIC EBRON North Carolina 1st
2. AUSTIN SEFERIAN-JENKINS Washington 2nd
3. TROY NIKLAS Notre Dame 2nd
4. JACE AMARO Texas Tech 2nd
5. C.J. FIEDOROWICZ Iowa 3rd
6. ARTHUR LYNCH Georgia 4th
7. CROCKETT GILLMORE Colorado State 5th


OFFENSIVE TACKLES
PROSPECT SCHOOL GRADE
1. GREG ROBINSON Auburn top 2
2. TAYLOR LEWAN Michigan 1st
3. JAKE MATTHEWS Texas A&M 1st
4. ZACK MARTIN Notre Dame 1st
5. CYRUS KOUANDJIO Alabama 1st
6. MORGAN MOSES Virginia 2nd
7. JA’WUAN JAMES Tennessee 3rd
8. ANTONIO RICHARDSON Tennessee 2nd
9. JOEL BITONIO Nevada 3rd
10. JUSTIN BRITT Missouri 6th
11. MATT PATCHAN Boston College 7th-PFA


OFFENSIVE GUARDS
PROSPECT SCHOOL GRADE
1. XAVIER SU’A-FILO UCLA 2nd
2. DAVID YANKEY Stanford 3rd
3. CYRIL RICHARDSON Baylor 3rd
4. GABE JACKSON Mississippi State 3rd
5. BRANDON THOMAS Clemson 5th


OFFENSIVE CENTERS
PROSPECT SCHOOL GRADE
1. WESTON RICHBURG Colorado State 4th
2. MARCUS MARTIN USC 4th
3. TRAVIS SWANSON Arkansas 4th

DEFENSIVE LINE
PROSPECT SCHOOL GRADE YEAR HEIGHT WEIGHT 40-YD (10-YD) ARMS HANDS WINGSPAN
1. AARON DONALD Pittsburgh top 10
2. JADEVEON CLOWNEY South Carolina top 2
3. LOUIS NIX Notre Dame 1st
4. KONY EALY Missouri 1st
5. STEPHON TUITT Notre Dame 2nd
6. JUSTIN ELLIS Louisiana Tech 3rd
7. DaQUAN JONES Penn State 3rd
8. RA’SHEDE HAGEMAN Minnesota 3rd
9. EGO FERGUSON LSU 3rd
10. KAREEM MARTIN North Carolina 2nd
11. BRENT URBAN Virginia 4th
12. BEAU ALLEN Wisconsin 6th
13. ZACH KERR Delaware 5th
14. DAN McCULLERS Tennessee 5th
15. KELCY QUARLES South Carolina 5th
16. DEANDRE COLEMAN California 4th
17. RYAN CARRETHERS Arkansas State 3rd
18. JACKSON JEFFCOAT Texas 4th
19. TAYLOR HART Oregon 5th

LINEBACKERS
PROSPECT SCHOOL GRADE
1. KHALIL MACK Buffalo 1st
2. ANTHONY BARR UCLA 1st
3. C.J. MOSLEY Alabama 1st
4. RYAN SHAZIER Ohio State 2nd
5. JEREMIAH ATTAOCHU Georgia Tech 2nd
6. YAWIN SMALLWOOD Connecticut 2nd
7. DEE FORD Auburn 2nd
8. KYLE VAN NOY BYU 3rd
9. MARCUS SMITH Louisville 3rd
10. PRESTON BROWN Louisville 2nd
11. CHRIS BORLAND Wisconsin 4th
12. JORDAN TRIPP Montana 5th
13. TREVOR REILLY Utah 5th
14.
15.
16. SHAYNE SKOV Stanford 5th
17. JORDAN ZUMWALT UCLA 5th
18. ANDREW JACKSON Western Kentucky 6th
19. TYLER STARR South Dakota 6th

SECONDARY
PROSPECT SCHOOL GRADE
1. DARQUEZE DENNARD Michigan State 1st
2. KYLE FULLER Virginia Tech 1st
3. JASON VERRETT TCU 1st
4. CALVIN PRYOR Louisville 1st
5. JUSTIN GILBERT Oklahoma State 1ST
6. BRADLEY ROBY Ohio State 2nd
7. HA HA CLINTON-DIX Alabama 1st
8. PHILLIP GAINES Rice 4th
9. JIMMIE WARD Northern Illinois 2nd
10. LAMARCUS JOYNER Florida State 2nd
11. LOUCHEIZ PURIFOY Florida 5th
12. E.J. GAINES Missouri 4th
13. DEONE BUCANNON Washington State 1st

Sleepers

LARRY WEBSTER | Bloomsburg (PA) 6056|252 lbs|6SR Hagerstown, MD (Elkton HS) 6/18/1991 (age 22) #99
2013: (12/12) 49/16.0/12.5/1 (DE) PROJECTION 5th-6th Round
2012: (12/0) 39/15.0/13.5/1 (DE) MEASUREABLES Arm: 33 1/2 | Hand: 10 1/8 | Wingspan: 81 1/2
2011: Basketball COMBINE 40-YD: 4.61 | 10-YD: 1.58 | BP: 17 | VJ: 36 1/2 | BJ: 10’03” | SS: 4.44 | 3C: 7.29
2010: Basketball
2009: Basketball
2008: Basketball
STRENGTHS: Looks the part with a tall, long frame and the growth potential to get stronger…quick first step with natural burst, flexible ankles and COD skills to bend the edge and flatten…uses his long arms to make wrap tackles and finish…has the athleticism and range to cover a large area, making plays in pursuit with speed and a reliable motor…quick learner and easily adapted to the game after being away for four years…strong work ethic and puts in the time to prepare and improve…NFL bloodlines – father, Larry, played 11 seasons in the NFL and won a Super Bowl ring with the Baltimore Ravens…very productive in his two seasons at DE with 26.0 sacks and 31.0 tackles for loss over his career, including two catches and two touchdowns on offense.
WEAKNESSES: Needs to commit himself to the weight room and add bulk to his body – lean-muscled and will likely never have a physically imposing build…needs to develop his football strength to hold up in the trenches, on offense or defense…hip movements are a tad stiff and needs to do a better job breaking down in space…needs to continue and develop his pass rush moves and learn how to better use his hands to protect his body and shed blocks…tends to play too tall at times and needs to improve his leverage off the snap…has only two full seasons of football experience under his belt since high school and lacks ideal experience, doing his damage at the Division-II level – spent most of his time on defense and is still untested on offense.
SUMMARY: Webster played both football and basketball in high school, but also participated in AAU and received more attention on the basketball court, swaying him to play hoops in college. As a four-year starting center at Bloomsburg, he finished as the school’s all-time leader in blocks (175) and was the Pennsylvania State Athletic Conference East Defensive POY in 2011. Webster talked to the football coaches about joining the team with his remaining eligibility and was initially used as a part-time pass rush specialist, but his role grew, starting all 12 games in 2013 and producing impressive numbers in his two seasons on the football field. He will require patience and needs to develop his football strength and technique and adjust to the higher level of competition. Although he lined up as a pass rusher in college, Webster has the frame, length and athletic skill-set that ideally fits the mold of a NFL TE – worth a third day draft choice to stash and groom.
 
if we trade back to buffalo at 9, i wouldnt mind getting taylor lewan.
2nd rd, i wouldnt mind if we take bradley roby
3rd rd, id like me some aaron murray
 
mussop said:
I love this draft class. Man there is so many quality players.
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Agree that there are many good players that can fill some need this year in the first three rounds. Wish the Texans were able to trade down even though I do think that Clowney is the best player in this draft.

Now, who to root for at 2.1 ???

Tough call.

Thanks for the welcome backs, guys.
 
WR Jordan Matthews.
This guy is a warrior; just quietly get things done.
All the measurables of a first round pick.

TE C.J. Fiedorowicz.
All the measurables of a 2nd-to early 3rd rounder.
Best overall TE in this draft.
Excellent blocker that neutralized any one LSU threw at him.

@Playoffs, I think Branchflower may get drafted.
I wouldn't mind spending a 7th on him.
But Larry Webster is also intriguing.
 
Derek Carr, QB, Fresno State
Jimmy Garoppolo, QB, Eastern Illinois

Louis Nix, DT, Notre Dame
Ra'Shede Hageman, DT, Minnesota
Stephon Tuitt, DE, Notre Dame

Morgan Moses, OT, Virginia
Cyrus Kouandjio, OT, Alabama
Xavier Su'a-Filo, G, UCLA

Austin Seferian-Jenkins, TE, Washington
Troy Niklas, TE, Notre Dame
Jace Amaro, TE, Texas Tech
 
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