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Teddy Bridgewater

Texian said:
You keep wanting to put me in to the equation, again I had nothing to do with Teddy's poor performances at the Combine and Pro Day. Why are top 10 teams bringing him him? In case he drops to RD 2 or they entertain the idea of trading back up in to the latter part of RD 1. The fact still remains, Teddy is dropping with most all folks following and predicting the draft. And I had nothing whatsoever to do with with it. I'm just the messenger and I feel SMITED!
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Since you're paying attention to the media, they say all the qbs are falling to the 2nd rd including your boy bortles who had an ok pro day,nothing special. See,that doesn't bother me because I look at what I see on tape as do most people. If a combine,which teddy,johnny,nor carr participatd in or a pro day drops a guy from 10 to 2nd rd,then he probably never was 10 anyway. Guys don't drop from 10 to 2nd rd based off pro days or combine. If so, matt ryan would've been in the 2nd rd as was cam newton who had an avg pro day.

Since you're a pro day guy,when was the last time the texans brought in their 1st rd pick for a visit? When you remember his name,let me know.
 
leebigeztx said:
Since you're paying attention to the media, they say all the qbs are falling to the 2nd rd including your boy bortles who had an ok pro day,nothing special. See,that doesn't bother me because I look at what I see on tape as do most people. If a combine,which teddy,johnny,nor carr participatd in or a pro day drops a guy from 10 to 2nd rd,then he probably never was 10 anyway. Guys don't drop from 10 to 2nd rd based off pro days or combine. If so, matt ryan would've been in the 2nd rd as was cam newton who had an avg pro day.

Since you're a pro day guy,when was the last time the texans brought in their 1st rd pick for a visit? When you remember his name,let me know.
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I'm not a Pro Day guy, you're the one doing all the labeling. I'm just the messenger and you keep shooting the messenger. I think the news that Teddy played at 185 lbs has been the worst news about him. The other news only compounds that fracture. It has been become clear that my signature definitely applies to you. You could be Prez of the Teddybots.
 
Every year we see all these things that talk about misdirection and trading down to get your guy, then misdirection happens and everyone falls for it.

This is hilarious to me. If TB goes 2nd round I'll admit I'm an idiot, but when he doesn't and he's drafted in the top 10 will yall?

That's the problem with message boards, no ownership. Everyone has an opinion and it's awesome to hear other peoples, sometimes I even learn a thing or two and it's great, but none of yall gentlemen ever own up to anything after the draft and after the season.

When I hated Merciless and banged the table for Alshon everyone called me an idiot, but now that I am correct all those people just throw their hands in the air in denial and try to sweep it under the rug.

I know if I am wrong I will admit as much, but will yall? I made my decision and began ranking players once the FOOTBALL games and FOOTBALL season ended, what's weird about my list, is that it hasn't changed a fraction as much as many of "the experts" and many of yall (lists likely stolen from "experts").

Texian said:
I'm not a Pro Day guy, you're the one doing all the labeling. I'm just the messenger and you keep shooting the messenger. I think the news that Teddy played at 185 lbs has been the worst news about him. The other news only compounds that fracture. It has been become clear that my signature definitely applies to you. You could be Prez of the Teddybots.
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What are you doing bro? You're just saying foolish things to bait people into a fight now. If you really think TB falls to the 2nd because of a pro day call your shot, and when draft day happens, stand behind it.
 
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leebigeztx said:
Since you're paying attention to the media, they say all the qbs are falling to the 2nd rd including your boy bortles who had an ok pro day,nothing special. See,that doesn't bother me because I look at what I see on tape as do most people. If a combine,which teddy,johnny,nor carr participatd in or a pro day drops a guy from 10 to 2nd rd,then he probably never was 10 anyway. Guys don't drop from 10 to 2nd rd based off pro days or combine. If so, matt ryan would've been in the 2nd rd as was cam newton who had an avg pro day.

Since you're a pro day guy,when was the last time the texans brought in their 1st rd pick for a visit? When you remember his name,let me know.
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Since you are an anti pro day guy, when was the last time a QB had a below average pro day and was drafted in the top ten?
 
NFL network will show Game Changers today QBs/WRs with Kurt Warner and Michael Irvin. Teddy B is one of the three QBs. Starts at 8pm central time.
 
TexansFTW said:
That's the problem with message boards, no ownership.
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sure, but you do know who is credible and who isn't over time. You don't need people to "own up" for that. Over the last decade I've come to know who to look for and listen to as well as some posters that just I gloss over.
 
leebigeztx said:
Since you're a pro day guy,when was the last time the texans brought in their 1st rd pick for a visit? When you remember his name,let me know.
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Not going to try to research all of them but the last time the Texans were at 1.1 they brought in Williams before drafting him - Link
 
TexansFTW said:
What are you doing bro? You're just saying foolish things to bait people into a fight now. If you really think TB falls to the 2nd because of a pro day call your shot, and when draft day happens, stand behind it.
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I don't have to, to many folks already doing that. I am already on the record saying Teddy compares to Geno Smith, except Geno has a little stronger arm. That was long before Teddy's Combine and Pro Day. Nothing has changed, I still stand behind those comments.
 
Texian said:
I don't have to, to many folks already doing that. I am already on the record saying Teddy compares to Geno Smith, except Geno has a little stronger arm. That was long before Teddy's Combine and Pro Day. Nothing has changed, I still stand behind those comments.
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Aside from skin color....break down that comparison for me, please.
 
Trap_Star said:
Aside from skin color....break down that comparison for me, please.
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Skin has nothing to do with it. Your comments not mine. In a nutshell, both are very similar in SIZE and Metrics. Both have very similar production in completion %, passing yards and QB rating.

GS 6023, 218 vs TB 6021, 214
 
Texian said:
You asked so I responded. It's my opinion, clearly you don't agree. There is not anything I can say about Teddy that any Teddybot would find agreeable. Just the way it is.
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Thanks for enlightening me, I'm for serious.



And Teddybot blasts are rad.
 
Texian said:
You asked so I responded. It's my opinion, clearly you don't agree. There is not anything I can say about Teddy that any Teddybot would find agreeable. Just the way it is.
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Why is there now a tendency to paint anyone who doesn't agree as a mindless robot? I find that whole movement intellectually dishonest and distasteful.
 
infantrycak said:
We understand just fine. I think it is stupid and in your particular case wildly hypocritical.
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Of course you do....every single day you show up you act as if your dog has died. Like everything else, you probably don't even like dogs.
 
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Texian said:
Poor dog, probably gets beat a couple times a week and kicked across the room every time you come home drunk.
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Wth? Maybe you want to punch him in the nuts while you're slandering his name everywhere? Unless this is some kind of joke and i missed the punchline..
 
I wonder if the people saying Bridgewater had a terrible pro day even watched it. He was off target on a few throws, but most of them looked good. His receivers didn't do him any favors when they slowed down to locate the ball and then couldn't catch up to passes that were aimed for their original speed.

His workout was below average for a guy expected to go top 5, but was nowhere near bad.

mussop said:
Since you are an anti pro day guy, when was the last time a QB had a below average pro day and was drafted in the top ten?
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Matt Ryan
 
mussop said:
Since you are an anti pro day guy, when was the last time a QB had a below average pro day and was drafted in the top ten?
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Brees,Newton,and Ryan to name a few. As I've said before, straight from pat kirwan,phil saage and bill polian,pro days mean pretty much nothing. From what I'm told ,face to face,the pro day is was really for the later round picks and guys who were not invited to combine. Pro day is also one of the 1st times the coach get to see prospects live. Now for guys like the late al davis, was heavily influenced by russell,heward-bey,and others pro day and combine. Hey,that's them, id rather just do tape and see how that translates.

I watched a couple games by Carr today and if I never seen his pro day,no way that dude is even in the 2nd rd. His feet,panic under duress,and the near ints are hard to comprehend for a 4 th yr player. I'm sure some coach will think he can coach the pocket awarness like they thought with tanneyhill and gabbert and we've seen how that has worked out.
 
mussop said:
Since you are an anti pro day guy, when was the last time a QB had a below average pro day and was drafted in the top ten?
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leebigeztx said:
Brees,Newton,and Ryan to name a few. As I've said before, straight from pat kirwan,phil saage and bill polian,pro days mean pretty much nothing. From what I'm told ,face to face,the pro day is was really for the later round picks and guys who were not invited to combine. Pro day is also one of the 1st times the coach get to see prospects live. Now for guys like the late al davis, was heavily influenced by russell,heward-bey,and others pro day and combine. Hey,that's them, id rather just do tape and see how that translates.

I watched a couple games by Carr today and if I never seen his pro day,no way that dude is even in the 2nd rd. His feet,panic under duress,and the near ints are hard to comprehend for a 4 th yr player. I'm sure some coach will think he can coach the pocket awarness like they thought with tanneyhill and gabbert and we've seen how that has worked out.
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:fostering:
 
leebigeztx said:
Brees,Newton,and Ryan to name a few. As I've said before, straight from pat kirwan,phil saage and bill polian,pro days mean pretty much nothing. From what I'm told ,face to face,the pro day is was really for the later round picks and guys who were not invited to combine. Pro day is also one of the 1st times the coach get to see prospects live. Now for guys like the late al davis, was heavily influenced by russell,heward-bey,and others pro day and combine. Hey,that's them, id rather just do tape and see how that translates.
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That's pretty awesome you met them and they said that. I always felt the same way, but never had any validation to my argument.

There was a great man in the Clowney thread that said this...

I've always looked at pro days and combines for guys in rounds 5+ (might go 6+ this year, this draft is Stacked!) because I believe 95% of the time those guys are gonna fail in the NFL so I'd rather have a beast athlete that has a chance to learn what it takes, who in the meantime will either pop someone hard on special teams or fly down the field untouched on special teams.
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That great man is me. And now I have validation from GMs on my opinion. All you Mel Kiper fan boys have fun riding that fence and swaying in the wind. I drew a line after the end of the FOOTBALL season on what guys I did and did not like and reasons why. Those pro days haven't made me sway, and now I feel more confident in my reasoning. Thank you Leebi.
 
TexansFTW said:
And now I have validation from GMs on my opinion. All you Mel Kiper fan boys have fun riding that fence and swaying in the wind. I drew a line after the end of the FOOTBALL season on what guys I did and did not like and reasons why. Those pro days haven't made me sway, and now I feel more confident in my reasoning. Thank you Leebi.
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Careful you don't hurt yourself patting yourself on the back so hard.

& remember, GMs have a lot more access than what you & I have. They can get past the coach speak & locker room fluff that we can't.

& good pro days, bad pro days... may not change the player's ranking, but it may dress up the windows a little bit, a little advertising. Hopefully get someone enticed to trade up to the #1 overall.
 
thunderkyss said:
Hopefully get someone enticed to trade up to the #1 overall.
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If we could trade the pick and still get TB I would obviously love it.

I just don't think we can trade the Falcons at 7 and still land him. Time will tell. All dead talk for another 28 days 9 hours and 58 minutes.... Unless a trade happens before.
 
infantrycak said:
Wrong again:

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Looks like if you don't hurry and return the dog is going to tell you off. We see who is in charge, heh.

leebigeztx said:
Brees,Newton,and Ryan to name a few. As I've said before, straight from pat kirwan,phil saage and bill polian,pro days mean pretty much nothing. From what I'm told ,face to face,the pro day is was really for the later round picks and guys who were not invited to combine. Pro day is also one of the 1st times the coach get to see prospects live. Now for guys like the late al davis, was heavily influenced by russell,heward-bey,and others pro day and combine. Hey,that's them, id rather just do tape and see how that translates.

I watched a couple games by Carr today and if I never seen his pro day,no way that dude is even in the 2nd rd. His feet,panic under duress,and the near ints are hard to comprehend for a 4 th yr player. I'm sure some coach will think he can coach the pocket awarness like they thought with tanneyhill and gabbert and we've seen how that has worked out.
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He probably meant top ten in the draft, not position. Brees was a second round pick. But overall I agree with your point. The pro-day doesn't make a significant dent to drop someone a full round in a draft. It just makes them go review the game film that much more deeply. A poor performance can hurt though especially if you didn't throw at the combine but not to the level some are suggesting where he should all the way to the second. That's quite a stretch.
 
revan said:
NFL network will show Game Changers today QBs/WRs with Kurt Warner and Michael Irvin. Teddy B is one of the three QBs. Starts at 8pm central time.
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I watched the QB episode last night. Kinda' cool to see the workouts.

Honestly, Bridgewater just doesn't come off as very bright. JMO, of course, but he seems like his answers are canned. Maybe he's just nervous in front of cameras and interviews, but every interview I've seen with him just doesn't give me the vibe that he's very quick in his critical thinking skills.

I don't know anything about Tajh Boyd, but he came across as a very smart player. I'd like to keep an eye on him to see who picks him up and if he develops into an NFL QB down the road.

All of them showed college game tape where their floaty passes would be like mana from heaven to NFL defensive backs. They benefited from the typical separation at the college level between receivers and defenders.
 
Double Barrel said:
I watched the QB episode last night. Kinda' cool to see the workouts.

Honestly, Bridgewater just doesn't come off as very bright. JMO, of course, but he seems like his answers are canned. Maybe he's just nervous in front of cameras and interviews, but every interview I've seen with him just doesn't give me the vibe that he's very quick in his critical thinking skills.

I don't know anything about Tajh Boyd, but he came across as a very smart player. I'd like to keep an eye on him to see who picks him up and if he develops into an NFL QB down the road.

All of them showed college game tape where their floaty passes would be like mana from heaven to NFL defensive backs. They benefited from the typical separation at the college level between receivers and defenders.
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Funny you say that considering Bridgewater has the highest football Iq and most developed to read defenses of any QB in this draft.
 
TheRealJoker said:
Funny you say that considering Bridgewater has the highest football Iq and most developed to read defenses of any QB in this draft.
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yeah, I've read that before. I'm just commenting on my general impression of him through his interviews.

Sometimes book smarts do not always translate to quick thinking skills.

Or he's just a nervous interview and spews rehearsed lines. He just never seems like he's speaking from his gut, but like I said, just an opinion.

You see a guy like Andrew Luck, who had the great GPA, and his interviews comes across as very knowledgeable about football and quick to reply to questions with great insight. Bridgewater does not come across the same way to me.
 
Double Barrel said:
yeah, I've read that before. I'm just commenting on my general impression of him through his interviews.

Sometimes book smarts do not always translate to quick thinking skills.

Or he's just a nervous interview and spews rehearsed lines. He just never seems like he's speaking from his gut, but like I said, just an opinion.

You see a guy like Andrew Luck, who had the great GPA, and his interviews comes across as very knowledgeable about football and quick to reply to questions with great insight. Bridgewater does not come across the same way to me.
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I agree with you.

On the field, Bridgewater seems to be very intelligent. He appears to be ahead of the curve in the mental aspects of the game. But off the field, he doesn't project the same image. To me, he looks nervous in front of cameras. Every time I've seen him do an interview he looks uncomfortable.
 
bah007 said:
I agree with you.

On the field, Bridgewater seems to be very intelligent. He appears to be ahead of the curve in the mental aspects of the game. But off the field, he doesn't project the same image. To me, he looks nervous in front of cameras. Every time I've seen him do an interview he looks uncomfortable.
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Yeah he comes across nervous and as if whatever swagger he has off the field is forced.
 
Oh now it's ok to say he doesn't come off well in interviews. I was chastised when I said this a while back.

mussop said:
Don't see teddy interviewing well.
Reporter- Teddy, what do you need to improve on?
Teddy - gets and dumbfounded look on face, then answers with a confused tone, "uh-nothing".

Yeh just not seeing it. Manziel on the other hand, well he's going to blow everyone away. He's got personality, confidence and swagger that sets him apart from any other top prospect in this draft.
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I was called bias and a J Football fan among other things for suggesting this.
 
leebigeztx said:
So the combine and a pro day does it for you? So why are top 10 teams still bringing him in? No ne to argue with you,but I've had 2 former gms tell me to my face the combine is best for the physical and the pro day means zero. I guess they're Teddy Bots or Clowney Bots or whatever retarded word association you want to mix in. Tell me how many many media people had the texans drafting mario?
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I actually do think you're a bit of a "Teddybot" but I gotta say that it's pretty amusing watching the "Bortlesbot" call you out about it.

That's some funny stuff right there. :whip:
 
TexansFTW said:
That's pretty awesome you met them and they said that. I always felt the same way, but never had any validation to my argument.

There was a great man in the Clowney thread that said this...



That great man is me. And now I have validation from GMs on my opinion. All you Mel Kiper fan boys have fun riding that fence and swaying in the wind. I drew a line after the end of the FOOTBALL season on what guys I did and did not like and reasons why. Those pro days haven't made me sway, and now I feel more confident in my reasoning. Thank you Leebi.
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That validation is crap. Pro days make a difference. Some positions more than others. As QB's go they can drop a guy if he does really bad. Anyone that says different is a full of it. If a guy shows up at his pro day and looks out of shape or just doesn't perform well it makes a difference.

If tape is all that mattered Aaron. Donald would be in discussion for the number one overall pick. No one has better game tape than him.
 
Texian said:
Of course you do....every single day you show up you act as if your dog has died. Like everything else, you probably don't even like dogs.
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I know this wasn't directed at me, but I love dogs. Other people's dogs which I don't have to feed, walk or take to the vet for outrageous fees. I spent all my emotional and nurturing requirements on my kids. And I don't care what anybody says, pets are NOT KIDS!
 
Double Barrel said:
Or he's just a nervous interview and spews rehearsed lines. He just never seems like he's speaking from his gut, but like I said, just an opinion.
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I just watched it and can't say I agree. He sounds like he knows what he's talking about when asked about football. During Gruden's QB camp he seemed like he knew the most of what he was talking about.

Yeah of course he sounds nervous when Steve Mary says tell these other 2 QBs next to you why you should go #1 over them. That's an incredibly awkward question used to trap players into saying something stupid to drive up ratings and the fall back is gonna be media training... I can't control when I get picked, I can only control how hard I work in the process... I am a proven leader... etc.

If you want quick wit at the press conference or at a dinner table Teddy is not your guy. If you want quick decision making on the FOOTBALL field, I think the tape speaks for itself. How many college QBs coming out this year made it past 2 reads during the season from the pocket?

mussop said:
That validation is crap. Pro days make a difference. Some positions more than others. As QB's go they can drop a guy if he does really bad. Anyone that says different is a full of it. If a guy shows up at his pro day and looks out of shape or just doesn't perform well it makes a difference.

If tape is all that mattered Aaron. Donald would be in discussion for the number one overall pick. No one has better game tape than him.
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We will see on both accounts. Don't be shocked when Aaron Donald and TB both go higher than you or Mel Kiper believe.
 
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