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O’Brien Explains What Type Of Quarterback He Wants

steelbtexan said:
Maybe I should've been more clear and said back to back. The point is there are no more dynasty's in the NFL. The best way to insure success is to build the 49er/Pats way. build the OL/DL then get your QB.
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I'm sure the Pats way can't really be emulated unless you see a possible GOAT QB lying around somewhere.

As for the 49ers model... well, that can be followed.
 
steelbtexan said:
Maybe I should've been more clear and said back to back. The point is there are no more dynasty's in the NFL. The best way to insure success is to build the 49er/Pats way. build the OL/DL then get your QB.
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It's a good concept in theory...the problem is, the trend I see in Superbowl winners (even recent SB winners, there hasn't been a huge trend shift) is that you NEED a good QB (and at least a middling to good defense). Now, if you get that QB after developing your OL/DL (and I'd argue defense), all the power to you, but it's hard to find that QB.

To risk building this OL/DL and THEN search for the QB creates the situation where you're stuck with a mediocre QB who cannot win the big game (Schaub). Then, while you're looking for that franchise QB who can, all the pieces you've put together start to fall apart (age, contracts, etc). Like you said, not much lasts in the league anymore.

I think it's easier to find that special QB and then build around him once you have him (Luck). It's a bit easier to build OL/DL around a QB than it is to fish for a QB while managing the time limit you have with a strong OL/DL/Defense.
 
steelbtexan said:
Maybe I should've been more clear and said back to back. The point is there are no more dynasty's in the NFL. The best way to insure success is to build the 49er/Pats way. build the OL/DL then get your QB.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but, I believe the last back-to-back championship team was Gary Kubiak's Broncos. It's one reason why the guy has such an overrated reputation.


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houstonspartan said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but, I believe the last back-to-back championship team was Gary Kubiak's Broncos. It's one reason why the guy has such an overrated reputation.
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Nope, the Patriots won back-to-back championships in 2003 and 2004. They won three in four years.
 
So the last 2 back-2-back champions had John Elway and Tom Brady.

Here's what I really think about the whole situation.:

I've said that the QB is the most important single player on the team. Others have said, and I don't disagree, that Defense wins championships; but, you can't build a Defense with one pick, just like you can't build an O-line with one pick. Seattle built their Defense with a lot of later round picks and free agent acquisitions (I'm no expert on Seattle, so I'm just speaking in general here), so it's not like they got one good player and the Defense was set. We already have JJ Watt and he's a great player, but we just went 2-14 with him.

I think you take the best QB on the board. He may not be a franchise QB, certain to become a Superbowl MVP, but he adds to our chances of winning more now....and he has trade potential in the future. He will not be paid like Peyton Manning his first four years anyway because of NFLPA negotiations. We really need to either do this or find (if even possible) a good, veteran QB now.

Yes, the Defense will be important, but we are going to need many picks and other acquisitions to build a championship Defense. I know these guys are not supposed to be sure thing, championship QBs, but the fact that they are the best in any one draft (or supposed to be) should mean something. If you get a good QB, they will likely be good for many years. Shut-down CBs, for instance, are usually not shut-down CBs for very long. I bet Seattle's Defense is mediocre again within a few years. They did win a championship with Defense, though, and I won't begrudge that from them.
 
HJam72 said:
So the last 2 back-2-back champions had John Elway and Tom Brady.

I think you take the best QB on the board. He may not be a franchise QB, certain to become a Superbowl MVP, but he adds to our chances of winning more now....and he has trade potential in the future. He will not be paid like Peyton Manning his first four years anyway because of NFLPA negotiations. We really need to either do this or find (if even possible) a good, veteran QB now.
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See... with Brady's name in there I can't get behind the "take the best QB on the board" argument. To me, it's just like any other position.

We didn't take a RB in the 2009 draft because we felt (so I've been told) that equally talented players were still available after the draft. We brought in Arian Foster & Jeremiah Johnson as undrafted FAs. Both had bodies of work worthy of a first round pick, Arian proved to be NFL ready.

We drafted a LT in the third round of the 2006 draft & we all thought he could handle the job.

Just because there are those who believe Teddy Bridgewater is the best QB in this class, doe not mean that he will be the most successful, again the Tom Brady example... as well as Kaepernick, Wilson, Rodgers, Roethlisberger, Flacco, Cutler, McNabb. None of those guys were the first QB taken (the "best" prospect).

I'm just thinking out loud here, if we selected Jadaveon Clowney, what would happen to Teddy Bridgewater, Johnny Manziel, or Blake Bortles? Would St Louis take one of them, or Jacksonville, or Cleveland? Most every "mock" I've seen says the Rams would pass & Jacksonville would take one of them, Bortles, & Cleveland will take one, Manziel... & Oakland might take Bridgewater.

To me, that says the "experts" believe none of these guys are an upgrade over Sam Bradford, but better than Blaine Gabbert, Brandon Weedon, & Terrelle Pryor.

I don't know if I want to spend the #1 overall on a player not considered an upgrade over Sam Bradford. There are even some mocks where Jacksonville doesn't take a QB.
 
Meant to put this in here as it directly addresses the topic...

Is Bridgewater a Bill O’Brien QB?
Ever since Bill O’Brien was hired by the Texans, there’s been constant chatter about which of the draft’s signal callers best fits his offense. Increasingly, to the surprise of many, the talk has centered around signal callers not named Teddy Bridgewater.
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The shift away from Teddy B. is in part due to O’Brien’s history and preference for quarterbacks with prototypical builds: his two most recent high porfile quarterbacks — Tom Brady and his hand-picked QB at Penn State, Christian Hackenberg — both sit in the 6’4”, 220-225 pound range. O’Brien himself has made comments about how he adores bigger QBs who can sit in the pocket and make all the throws.

In fact, while heading the Penn State program, O’Brien did not commonly recruit quarterbacks who were below the 6’3”, 200-lb. threshold. With all that in mind, members of the draft media have increasingly linked the Texans to UCF signal caller Blake Bortles, who’s also received praise from O’Brien in the past.

Who ends up being that top selection remains to be seen — by all accounts, the pick’s expected to be one of the draft’s top QBs — but while it’s quite possible Bortles will be the guy, we still believe Bridgewater does everything required of an O’Brien QB.

To make the case, Aimal Arsalla and I have produced 6 cutups of three 2013 Christian Hackenberg games, as well as one of Tom Brady back in ’11. And on the next couple pages, we’ll isolate individual plays that show Teddy’s quite capable of executing Bill O’Brien’s offense.
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Being able to deliver intermediate throws with accuracy is critical, especially as windows get smaller in the NFL. Bridgewater regularly shows the ability to do so.

Here, we see basic play calls on both accounts but with very difficult throws. In Brady’s situation, he has to touch-pass it over top of the two Bills defenders, while Bridgewater must rocket it into a small window to his WR. The intermediate range of the field is used in a variety of ways in O’Brien’s offense, much of which requires throws of this caliber...
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See all video cutup comparisons here: http://draftbreakdown.com/is-bridgewater-an-obrien-qb/

Better quality videos at above link, as well.
 
Playoffs said:
Meant to put this in here as it directly addresses the topic...

Is Bridgewater a Bill O’Brien QB?

O’Brien’s history and preference for quarterbacks with prototypical builds: his two most recent high porfile quarterbacks — Tom Brady and his hand-picked QB at Penn State, Christian Hackenberg — both sit in the 6’4”, 220-225 pound range. O’Brien himself has made comments about how he adores bigger QBs who can sit in the pocket and make all the throws.

In fact, while heading the Penn State program, O’Brien did not commonly recruit quarterbacks who were below the 6’3”, 200-lb. threshold.

Being able to deliver intermediate throws with accuracy is critical, especially as windows get smaller in the NFL. Bridgewater regularly shows the ability to do so.
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Sounds like Aj McCarron to me. Everything you can say about Bridgewater you can say about McCarron, except McCarron has the size, played for a "big time" program, against "big time" competition.

But... I don't want to sound like I'm forcing him down anyone's throat.
 
thunderkyss said:
Sounds like Aj McCarron to me. Everything you can say about Bridgewater you can say about McCarron, except McCarron has the size, played for a "big time" program, against "big time" competition.

But... I don't want to sound like I'm forcing him down anyone's throat.
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Not with a straight face.

But to go for the winner - he's black.
 
thunderkyss said:
Sounds like Aj McCarron to me. Everything you can say about Bridgewater you can say about McCarron, except McCarron has the size, played for a "big time" program, against "big time" competition.

But... I don't want to sound like I'm forcing him down anyone's throat.
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AJ McCarron cannot consistently deliver the ball accurately on intermediate routes.
 
Nothing says a Bill O'Brien QB like 6'4" 230 lb BLAKE BORTLES as 6'4" 220 lb CHRISTIAN HACKENBERG!
 
b0ng said:
AJ McCarron cannot consistently deliver the ball accurately on intermediate routes.
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Wrong

Can he do it under pressure should be the question. Nobody knows the answer to this question at this point.

It bothers me that McCarron backed out of the North/South game.
 
After listening to this ESPN piece hosted by Stephen A. Smith and Skip Bayless, I came away feeling like I just left an Evangelical revival...............looking to cleanse myself from my wayward critical misguided "No, thank you!" feelings toward Manziel as the Texans' #1 pick.........QUICK, someone, PLEASE throw me a bar of soap.........PLEASE!:hankpalm:



Manziel A Good Fit in Houston?
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
After listening to this ESPN piece hosted by Stephen A. Smith and Skip Bayless, I came away feeling like I just left an Evangelical revival...............looking to cleanse myself from my wayward critical misguided "No, thank you!" feelings toward Manziel as the Texans' #1 pick.........QUICK, someone, PLEASE throw me a bar of soap.........PLEASE!:hankpalm:



Manziel A Good Fit in Houston?
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Actually, I pretty much agree with him. I'm old enough that Bobby Layne was one of my football heroes (along with Johnny U). He would show up still hung over from partying the night before the game. It was said, he never lost a game - time just ran out.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
After listening to this ESPN piece hosted by Stephen A. Smith and Skip Bayless, I came away feeling like I just left an Evangelical revival...............looking to cleanse myself from my wayward critical misguided "No, thank you!" feelings toward Manziel as the Texans' #1 pick.........QUICK, someone, PLEASE throw me a bar of soap.........PLEASE!:hankpalm:



Manziel A Good Fit in Houston?
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CloakNNNdagger said:
After listening to this ESPN piece hosted by Stephen A. Smith and Skip Bayless, I came away feeling like I just left an Evangelical revival...............looking to cleanse myself from my wayward critical misguided "No, thank you!" feelings toward Manziel as the Texans' #1 pick.........QUICK, someone, PLEASE throw me a bar of soap.........PLEASE!:hankpalm:



Manziel A Good Fit in Houston?
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Everything about that clip is bothersome. The overall argument, the supporting arguments, the histrionic delivery by Stephen A. Smith and Skip Bayless, the red herring Manziel critics, the stupid racism hypothetical, and finally ending with Bayless pondering if O'Brien gets fired before he ever coaches a game. Notice they didn't mention scouting reports or criticisms that are actually relevant.
 
Lance Zerlein sits down with Greg Cosell (senior producer at NFL Films), for whom I have greater respect for than any "evaluator" out there. THIS IS A MUST-HEAR INTERVIEW where he talks about the QBs in this draft / Clowney / and his thought on the Texans #1 pick.

EDIT: Sorry, just noticed.......this was posted by Playoffs in the Draft Forum! Might want to keep it here, for those that don't travel into that forum.
 
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CloakNNNdagger said:
Lance Zerlein sits down with Greg Cosell (senior producer at NFL Films), for whom I have greater respect for than any "evaluator" out there. THIS IS A MUST-HEAR INTERVIEW where he talks about the QBs in this draft / Clowney / and his thought on the Texans #1 pick.
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Good interview, and I have to agree with the observations made about the QB's. Bridgewater has demonstrated more than the others that he can anticipate windows, which is mandatory.

They also summed up why I wouldn't be disappointed one bit if Clowney was the choice.
 
Brisco_County said:
Good interview, and I have to agree with the observations made about the QB's. Bridgewater has demonstrated more than the others that he can anticipate windows, which is mandatory.

They also summed up why I wouldn't be disappointed one bit if Clowney was the choice.
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Dagnabbit, ditto. I was so much NO CLOWN for so long, that's change. Not just this interview, mind you. We HAVE TO TAKE THE BEST PLAYER, REGARDLESS!

I just hope we don't wind up with McCarron in the 8th round. :kitten:
 
Brisco_County said:
Everything about that clip is bothersome. The overall argument, the supporting arguments, the histrionic delivery by Stephen A. Smith and Skip Bayless, the red herring Manziel critics, the stupid racism hypothetical, and finally ending with Bayless pondering if O'Brien gets fired before he ever coaches a game. Notice they didn't mention scouting reports or criticisms that are actually relevant.
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One can get more info on this forum than you can on ESPN. Almost of those guys are clueless.
 
Sneak peak into the Bill O'Brien QB selection process....




Obviously, accuracy and quick release are highly valued in this system
 
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Breakfast McNuggets with O'Brien
-- O'Brien, general manager Rick Smith and quarterbacks coach George Godsey will all be at Johnny Manziel's Pro Day on Thursday. This is separate from Texas A&M's Pro Day, one O'Brien called his "Johnny Day." While O'Brien likes having private workouts with quarterback prospects, when I asked if he has one with Manziel he said he doesn't think so.

-- Despite all the talk about what a bad Pro Day Teddy Bridgewater had, O'Brien thought he had "a decent day." He liked seeing the work Bridgewater had done to improve footwork and mechanics.

-- He'll meet several times with various prospects and what he's looking for from meeting to meeting is improvement. Did the guy learn something in the time between?

-- The plan right now is to take backup quarterbacks Case Keenum and T.J. Yates to training camp.

-- He values the ability to think quickly in a quarterback. O'Brien will ask for a lot of pre-snap decision-making.

-- Derek Carr's brother will have no impact on the Texans' evaluation of Derek Carr. "When we're thinking about a player, we're thinking about that individual player." The expansion Texans selected David Carr with the top overall pick of the 2002 draft and lasted five seasons before being waived.
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“It’s very difficult to play a quarterback right away,” O’Brien said. “Expecting a rookie to go in and play right away against, say, a Rex Ryan defense, is very, very difficult. At the same time, you better be ready to do it because you never know what’s going to happen."
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I think OB is going to be on SR 610 on Texans all access with Mark Vandameer around 12 if anyone wants to listen...
 
Texans’ O’Brien: ‘It’s very difficult to play a quarterback right away’
“We’re going to bring some of these guys to Houston to spend a day with them,” O’Brien said about the quarterbacks and other prospects to be the top pick. “There are other quarterbacks in the draft.

“Being a quarterback coach, it’s important to note there are a lot of quarterbacks who are winners and have played well. My opinion is that I see strengths and weaknesses with every one of these guys. I don’t see one, two or three guys who are light years ahead of the rest.”

O’Brien cautions about the probability of a rookie quarterback starting from Day One, no matter where he’s drafted.

“It’s very difficult to play a quarterback right away,” O’Brien said. “Expecting a rookie to go in and play right away against, say, a Rex Ryan (New York Jets) defense, is very, very difficult. At the same time, you better be ready to do it because you never know what’s going to happen.

“What we’re trying to do is to set up a very competitive roster at every position. Through the spring and into camp – at every position – we want a very competitive roster. Let these guys win their positions on the field. If a guy’s got to play as a rookie, then that’s what we’ll do.”
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Playoffs said:
-- Despite all the talk about what a bad Pro Day Teddy Bridgewater had, O'Brien thought he had "a decent day." He liked seeing the work Bridgewater had done to improve footwork and mechanics.

-- He values the ability to think quickly in a quarterback. O'Brien will ask for a lot of pre-snap decision-making.
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To me, this just tells me that O'Brien likes Bridgewater (this is all constituting that I think O'Brien is telling the truth, which shouldn't be assumed during this part of the draft process).
 
SI: The can't-miss-QB in this year's draft? Bill O'Brien doesn't see one
"I don't think it'll come to me in a dream,'' quipped O'Brien, holding court at the AFC head coaches media breakfast on Day 3 of the league's annual meeting. "It might come to me in a nightmare. ... I don't think it's an easy decision. But we'll make a good pick.''

Houston has 11 picks (thanks to three compensatory selections awarded Monday) and a lot of options in this draft, and there's little time to waste in preparing for the haul that O'Brien hopes is on the way...

"I do think it's a deep draft and it has a lot to do with all those young guys coming out, all those juniors,'' O'Brien said. "We have 11 picks, and you can really set your team up for the future by doing your due diligence in this draft. Which is what we're doing. We're working on it, and I think we're going to have a really good draft.
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Though everyone wants to talk quarterback with O'Brien, the former Patriots offensive coordinator and Penn State head coach, that may not necessarily be where Houston starts its selection process. The more I listen to O'Brien, the more I'm starting to believe passing on a QB at No. 1 overall is truly in play for the Texans. I'm not predicting someone other than a quarterback is the end result, but it's a possibility. O'Brien consistently reminds anyone who asks about the quarterbacks in this year's draft that there are more than just the three consensus top-rated passers to choose from, those being Manziel, Louisville's Teddy Bridgewater and Central Florida's Blake Bortles.
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"It's important to note there's a lot of quarterbacks that are winners, that have played well [in this draft],'' O'Brien said, toward the beginning of his hour-plus session with reporters at the Ritz-Carlton Orlando Grand Lakes. "You've got A.J. McCarron and [Zach] Mettenberger and Garoppolo. [Pitt's Tom] Savage, we were at his pro day. You can go right down the line. There are a lot of guys who can play quarterback.

"I don't [see a lot of separation among the quarterbacks]. I see strengths and weaknesses with every one of these guys, and I don't see where there's two or three guys that are just light years ahead of the rest of these guys. McCarron and Mettenberg, those guys played in the SEC. So did Johnny. That's a tough conference. They won a lot of games in the SEC, so they must have been doing something right. It's a very intriguing position [in this year's draft class].''
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"No question,'' said O'Brien, when I asked him if Wilson's and Kaepernick's success was a reminder that quarterback-needy teams do not have to invest at a first-round level. "Obviously we're not ready to sit down as a staff and say what we're going to do, but the more I study these guys, I see a lot of guys with experience and production in college. There are a lot of quarterbacks I've watched that are decent players.''
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"I think it's very, very difficult for a guy to play quarterback as a rookie, right away,'' he said. "To expect a guy to go in there and play right away against a Rex Ryan defense is very, very difficult. But at the same time, you better be ready to do it, because you never know what might happen. If it ends up being a guy's got to play as a rookie, then that's what he's got to do.''
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O'Brien said he was "sure we'll have something in mind maybe a week or two in advance'' of the draft, but the process of arriving at a selection at No. 1 will "be a while.''
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"With all due respect to the fans of Houston ... if we start asking the fans about who we should draft, I'll be sitting next to you at the next game,'' O'Brien said to a reporter.
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• On the first thing he looks for in a quarterback?
"To me it's really two things. The guy has to be able to throw the ball accurately and a guy has to have intelligence. He has to have a quick mind. He's got to be able to process things in two or three seconds.''
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Seegara said:
Bill O'Brien has been interviewed about many football-related topics, but he frequently comes back to quarterbacking no matter what the original question was. (See Texans home page.) This suggests the Texans are pretty well fixed on drafting a QB first. If they think the guy they most want is going to be available for a while, they're liable to trade down, but we can expect them to take a QB in the 1st round.
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I think it is a smoke screen. I wouldn't be surprised to see Fitzpatrick starting for us next year with a qb picked in the 3rd or 4th round to develop. I would be surprised if we keep the first pick and don't trade down. I think we are going to wind up with a lot of short crossing routes and 3+ wideout sets with a need for a qb that can get the ball out quickly.


Trade back and take Barr or Malik. Pick up a second, 3rd and a 2nd and 3rd next year and you can build a team in 2 years. If you add a pass rushing olb a solid NT and cush stays healthy then you need a 3rd CB and this defense is set. Adding a 2nd and 3rd this year would let you make that happen. Then pick up a qb later in the draft.

I think there is a reason we picked up fitzpatrick.

Mike
 
Texanmike02 said:
I think it is a smoke screen. I wouldn't be surprised to see Fitzpatrick starting for us next year with a qb picked in the 3rd or 4th round to develop. I would be surprised if we keep the first pick and don't trade down. I think we are going to wind up with a lot of short crossing routes and 3+ wideout sets with a need for a qb that can get the ball out quickly.

Mike
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I'm thinking basically the same thing. Sounds like he's more into developing a QB than drafting one with a pick that can produce a starter. If we get starters with our 1st, 2nd, & 3rd round picks, sounds like he'll be fine "developing" a QB like Savage or Murray in the 4th or later.

That's not to say if there was a Peyton Manning or Phillip Rivers in this draft he would pass on them, but this is a deep draft at many positions & we've got the 1st pick in every round & then some.

Having said all that, he seems to value winning & production in the major conferences, overcoming diversity, and of course intelligence. I don't get the feeling that he believes any one of these QBs are better than the other, only different.
 
thunderkyss said:
I'm thinking basically the same thing. Sounds like he's more into developing a QB than drafting one with a pick that can produce a starter. If we get starters with our 1st, 2nd, & 3rd round picks, sounds like he'll be fine "developing" a QB like Savage or Murray in the 4th or later.
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There isn't a single starting QB in the league drafted after the 3rd round (arguably 2nd) the teams drafted to be their future starter.
 
Texanmike02 said:
I think it is a smoke screen. I wouldn't be surprised to see Fitzpatrick starting for us next year with a qb picked in the 3rd or 4th round to develop. I would be surprised if we keep the first pick and don't trade down. I think we are going to wind up with a lot of short crossing routes and 3+ wideout sets with a need for a qb that can get the ball out quickly.


Trade back and take Barr or Malik. Pick up a second, 3rd and a 2nd and 3rd next year and you can build a team in 2 years. If you add a pass rushing olb a solid NT and cush stays healthy then you need a 3rd CB and this defense is set. Adding a 2nd and 3rd this year would let you make that happen. Then pick up a qb later in the draft.

I think there is a reason we picked up fitzpatrick.

Mike
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We certainly aren't going to expect him to get much of anywhere throwing long.

Found these 2012 stats:

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and the article with screen shots that goes with it re. his mechanics.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
We certainly aren't going to expect him to get much of anywhere throwing long.

Found these 2012 stats:

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and the article with screen shots that goes with it re. his mechanics.
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FWIW I couldn't find Tom Brady's actual stats but I found the top 10 for each of the last 4 years. Tom brady was not a top 10 in either accuracy or % of attempts over 20 yards.

IMHO that's why we picked up fitzpatrick. I could easily see OB believing that he can work with him (at least this year, maybe longer). If you look at Brady he throws a lot of short routes with receivers crossing.

Mike
 
TEXANRED said:
I predict, Clowney with 1.1, trade back into the 1st round and Mccarron is the guy.
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What makes you think McCarron is going to sniff the 1st round?

General fyi - we have a draft forum where there are extensive discussions about all sorts of prospects.
 
infantrycak said:
What makes you think McCarron is going to sniff the 1st round?

General fyi - we have a draft forum where there are extensive discussions about all sorts of prospects.
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And? You don't think this thread qualifies as a draft prospect type of thread? Are you not also engaging in draft talk?

infantrycak said:
There isn't a single starting QB in the league drafted after the 3rd round (arguably 2nd) the teams drafted to be their future starter.
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TEXANRED said:
And? You don't think this thread qualifies as a draft prospect type of thread? Are you not also engaging in draft talk?
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Don't get your knickers twisted. We are clearly allowing some draft talk in this thread and also have recommended the draft forum when it starts to get more involved.

I pointed you to the draft forum because you would find McCarron is generally predicted to be available in the 3rd or later. A few people think he may go in the 2nd. Nobody thinks the Texans would need to move up into the 1st to get him.
 
infantrycak said:
There isn't a single starting QB in the league drafted after the 3rd round (arguably 2nd) the teams drafted to be their future starter.
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Kaepernick.
Or do you think that Harbaugh was perfectly happy with Alex Smith and spent a #3 on Colin K. just for the heck of it?
 
DocBar said:
I think he has a major mancrush on Brady. Just sayin....:kitten:
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Who doesn't? :lion: :shades: lol!

infantrycak said:
There isn't a single starting QB in the league drafted after the 3rd round (arguably 2nd) the teams drafted to be their future starter.
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Great point. I think the majority of current starting QBs are first round picks, iirc. The notable ones drafted later that come to mind - Brady, Wilson, Kaepernick - were not picked to be starters.

Choosing a QB in a later round with the ambition that he's your future just seems like too much of a gamble. They've got pick of the litter right now, just gotta' figure out which one.
 
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