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Blake Bortles

Texecutioner said:
Rodgers is like 6'3. He is more than capable size wise. Either way him and Brees are two of the best of all time already. I could see Bortles becoming as good as Big Ben. I don't see Manziel or Bridgewater being anywhere near close to as good as Rodgers or Brees though. Of course Brees and Rodgers are both way ahead of Big Ben to though. I'd take a Big Ben retread though.
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I think my point is that saying Bortles ceiling is so much higher because of size, can be countered by how exceptional Brees and Rodgers are, secondly no one thought Brees and Rodgers would be as good as Brees and Rodgers before they were drafted either.
 
jradMIT said:
I think my point is that saying Bortles ceiling is so much higher because of size, can be countered by how exceptional Brees and Rodgers are, secondly no one thought Brees and Rodgers would be as good as Brees and Rodgers before they were drafted either.
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there is this misconception that Rodgers is short. He's not. Contrary to popular belief is closer to average height for an NFL QB.
 
I guess you could say not short, but not tall either. But I agree before the draft it seems like anything under 6'4 becomes a disadvantage or lack of advantage from which ever view point.
 
UCF's Blake Bortles eager to prove he is best quarterback at NFL Combine

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/spor...les-nfl-combine-0216-20140215,0,6000191.story

Bortles worked constantly to improve in every phase of a complex job, reading defenses, exploiting the strengths of his teammates and becoming the type of quarterback who could be trusted to win games, not just manage them. He was given more responsibility leading the offense - against SMU, he called a large percentage of plays in the second half at the line of scrimmage, for example - and was called upon to deliver for the Knights during the most critical of times.

No player stayed in the UCF football facility longer than Bortles, according to offensive coordinator Charlie Taaffe,

"I enjoy the whole process," Bortles said. "I enjoy going early, like me and Joey used to go to [the Wayne Densch Center] at 7 a.m. and stay there until 9 or 10 at night. I enjoy being in a place doing everything: practicing, watching film, getting treatment, meeting with people. I enjoy doing all that. Being able to go and do all the stuff I love to do every day."
 
TexansFTW said:
http://nflcombineresults.com/playerpage.php?i=7240

6'2" around here is like Willow short bro.

You gotta be at least 6'5" otherwise you're going to have a short career because of injury, aren't you aware?
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Are you just going for effect, or is this what you believe is being said here?

To me, it's just like arm strength. If a guy has a cannon, he gets a 10. If he's got deceptive arm strength, he gets a 9. If he can make all the throws, he gets an 8. If he's got touch (euphemism for noodle arm) he gets a 7.

If the guy is 6'5" or 6'6" he gets a 10. If he's 6'4" he gets a 9. If he's 6'3" he gets an 8. Below 6 '3" he gets a 7.

I'm not saying that a 6'0" or even a 5'8" guy can't QB in the NFL.... just that he's got to overcome something the 6'5" guy doesn't. That doesn't make the 6'5" guy the better guy. I'd take Aaron Murray over Logan Thomas any day of the week.

It's just part of the total grade.
 
ANALYSIS
STRENGTHS Outstanding size, stature, bulk and athletic ability for the position. Stands tall in the pocket and delivers the ball in the face of heavy pressure. Keeps his eyes downfield while climbing the pocket. Good field vision and release point. Is efficient throwing on the run and excels on bootlegs and play-action passing. Good zip and accuracy on short-to-intermediate throws -- can fit the ball into tight windows. Nice touch to drop throws in the bucket -- delivers a catchable ball with fine anticipation. Senses pressure and evades the rush. Doesn’t take many unnecessary sacks. Can extend plays with his feet or tuck it and dash for the sticks when the pocket breaks. Surprising foot speed. Plays with confidence and poise. Engineered comeback victories, beat Penn State and Louisville on the road and took a mid-major program to a BCS bowl.

WEAKNESSES Could stand to hasten his setup and polish his footwork (deteriorates under duress). Could stand to shorten his release -- wraps the ball slightly at the beginning of his windup. Too much effort in his delivery to generate slightly above-average arm strength. Operated in an offense where he made a lot of one-look reads. Does not spin spirals consistently -- too many throws come out with loose wobble (could struggle to cut the wind in blustery conditions). Ordinary deep-ball thrower. Tends to throw off his back foot when pressured (affects accuracy). Works heavily out of the gun -- will have to adapt to snaps under center and deep drops. Operates a dink-and-dunk offense which inflates his completion percentage. Fumbled nine times as a junior and could improve ball handling/security. Play dropped off against Ohio State in 2012 and South Carolina in '13 and wiill require time to adjust to the closing speed of NFL defensive backs. Is just a two-year starter and can improve his understanding of the game.

NFL COMPARISON Ben Roethlisberger

BOTTOM LINE Big, athletic, ascending quarterback with enough arm talent and intangibles to develop into a franchise starter. Is not yet a finished product and scouts' opinions vary on his ceiling, but elements of Bortles’ skill set compare to some of the best in the game today, and his best football is ahead of him.
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thunderkyss said:
Are you just going for effect, or is this what you believe is being said here?

To me, it's just like arm strength. If a guy has a cannon, he gets a 10. If he's got deceptive arm strength, he gets a 9. If he can make all the throws, he gets an 8. If he's got touch (euphemism for noodle arm) he gets a 7.
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A guy with touch doesn't necessarily have a noodle arm.

Guys with noodle arms float everything.

Guys with touch, if they use it right, can zing the balls into narrow windows when they have to or they can float one when they have to.
 
revan said:
Thats good, we get to see him along with Bridgewater throw now. This whole, they need to wait until their pro day because of the "chemistry" IMO is overrated. In the NFL they wont always have chemistry with all their WRs, what if their team signs a free agent WR or their backups have to come in?.
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will be good to have a direct comparison between the two. that being said the throwing part of the combine will play to bridge waters strengths more so.

Also we have to remember the combine is being played in shorts.
 
For every QB who says they aren't throwing at the combine, I think they should drop them from the list of invitees & bring in a QB who will throw.... like Brett Smith.
 
aussie_texan said:
will be good to have a direct comparison between the two. that being said the throwing part of the combine will play to bridge waters strengths more so.

Also we have to remember the combine is being played in shorts.
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When are they throwing? Sunday right?.

thunderkyss said:
For every QB who says they aren't throwing at the combine, I think they should drop them from the list of invitees & bring in a QB who will throw.... like Brett Smith.
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That makes sense, mr hype Manziel wont be throwing so bring someone who wants to improve his draft stock in.

aussie_texan said:
ahhh the 90s. jorts and mullets nothing better
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Jorts, Mullets and watching Americas Funniest Videos before the internet made it easy to just google epic fails lol.
 
revan said:
When are they throwing? Sunday right?.



That makes sense, mr hype Manziel wont be throwing so bring someone who wants to improve his draft stock in.



Jorts, Mullets and watching Americas Funniest Videos before the internet made it easy to just google epic fails lol.
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Sunday, Feb. 23
• QB/WR/RB on-field workout (timing, stations, skill drills)

Thanks playoffs
 
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Ryan Lownes ‏@ryanlownes
I doubt that we will see him engineering a playoff run as a rookie, but he may show coaches, fans, media, etc enough to buy their patience.

Though he has a long way to go, especially from a mechanics standpoint, I'm convinced he's capable of stringing together some gutsy wins...

One thing that stood out while watching Bortles is that he is unflappable in pressure or big-game situations. Led several 4th Qtr comebacks.

Like Minnesota, a stable ground game could make things easier on Bortles' NFL transition & having a talented defense does not hurt either.

Whether or not you feel his talent warrants consideration with the 1st overall pick, Houston would be another good spot for Bortles. #Texans

...in a grueling division, expectations may be manageable for Bortles if he is wearing purple & gold. Gives Norv Turner a lot to work with.

Moving on, Minnesota might actually be the best spot for Blake Bortles. #Vikings have NFL's best running back and an improving WR group...

..that has endured so many QB failures over the last 15 years. I'd also rather Bortles had a reliable ground game to lean on.

..developmental guy like Bortles can afford to learn on the fly in Cleveland. Criticism will be swift and harsh from the fanbase & media...

I don't like Bortles in Cleveland. #Browns organization under some pressure to win and provide excitement for fans, I am not sure a...

As far as what the right landing spot for Blake Bortles may be, where he may be able to excel, I have a few ideas...

Bortles is a guy who may be able to show progress during the pre-draft process, which could be something that helps his stock a lot.

I am glad to hear Bortles will be throwing at the Combine and I am eager to see his mechanics, especially when throwing the deep ball.

He's one of those players that makes you consider not only where he is now, but where he could go with the right coaching. Very high ceiling

I haven't talked about Bortles for awhile, so I thought I might circle back around and hear some opinions on him while I spout off my own.

If there is one player in this draft class that appears to generate as many polarizing opinions as Johnny Manziel, it is UCF's Blake Bortles
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like every QB prospect this year, for every positive there is are question mark.

scouts and the FO are going to earn their money this off-season
 
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He may not have quite the arm of Luck, but given time and good coaching, I think he will be pretty close to Luck in his QB play. Some say he reminds them of "Big Ben" and maybe he'll end up more like that than Luck. I don't know. I'm sure going to keep an eye on how he does at the Combine and which QB his numbers match up with. Size wise it's Luck. Athletically? We'll see in 2 more days! :play:
 
Insideop said:
He may not have quite the arm of Luck, but given time and good coaching, I think he will be pretty close to Luck in his QB play. Some say he reminds them of "Big Ben" and maybe he'll end up more like that than Luck. I don't know. I'm sure going to keep an eye on how he does at the Combine and which QB his numbers match up with. Size wise it's Luck. Athletically? We'll see in 2 more days! :play:
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Luck reminds me of a smaller Roethlisberger. He just looks smaller, I don't know their actual sizes. But they are both difficult to bring down. Very strong dudes.

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Matthew Fairburn ‏@MatthewFairburn
Bortles: "I could care less about anybody giving me respect."

Bortles: "I won't embarrass my team off the field. I won't embarrass my family's name."

Bortles models himself after Big Ben and Andrew Luck. It's a goal to be a blend of the best he says.

Bortles: "Brett Favre was my hero."

Bortles: I'll do everything I can, turn over every stone to make sure I'm not looking back in draft day wishing I would have done something.

Bortles: It's not up to me to decide if I'm the best QB in this draft. Goal is to be the top QB prospect. That's why I left school early.

Bortles: There's no doubt I need coaching and I need help. I think everybody does. I'm going to work my butt off.

Blake Bortles: I believe that I can compete with every guy here. That's why I'm doing everything. Why would I wait for my pro day?
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this dude has bust written all over him.

rich man's version of matt schaub.

what has this guy done and who has he played to warrant #1 overall status?
 
Lord Bills said:
this dude has bust written all over him.

rich man's version of matt schaub.

what has this guy done and who has he played to warrant #1 overall status?
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I wouldn't say he has bust written all over him. He's definitely raw, but he has the tools to be successful if developed correctly.

I had him rated as a late 1st-early 2nd pick during the season. His stock has soared because teams are always looking for QB's and there weren't enough under top 10 consideration. Reminds me of the way Tannehill's stock soared a few years ago.
 
He had some very big games. Has protypical size. Like to see where his arm strength ranks. Decent accuracy in the pocket with poise. Tough to bring down, climbs the pocket well. He definitely need to develop the going thru the progressions and recognizing more complex coverages. He is raw no doubt but the kid has game.
 
Bortles was taking shots across Manziel's bow. Talking about why wait to throw at a pro day when you can do it now because that's the way he was raised. About how he won't embarrass the franchise or his last name.

I have no idea who I want them to take. But this is fun.
 
Texian said:
If this is suppose to be a comparison to Bortles, tha's about as close as it gets and ends there. When you compare completion %, TD to INT ratio, QB rating and GAME WINNING DRIVES Locker comes up substantially short.
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So Bortles is like VY in that the defense keeps them in games and he decides to play the last series ? :polevault:
 
Texian said:
Unlike VY, check VY's completion percentage, TD to INT ratio, QB rating, ability to read defenses and WONDERLIC. BIG DIFFERENCES
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VY won the big one and he was 6'5 . VY was raw like Bortles and had close to the same hand size and without looking I'll bet VY's stats are as good or better in a much tougher conference at the time .

*2005 Texas Big 12 QB 13 212 325 65.2 3036 9.3 9.6 26 10 163.9
 
Texian said:
Unlike VY, check VY's completion percentage, TD to INT ratio, QB rating, ability to read defenses and WONDERLIC. BIG DIFFERENCES
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Just their last season...

Completion Percentage: 65.2 to 67.8, advantage Bortles
TD/INT ratio: 26/10 to 25/9, dead heat
QB Rating: 163.9 to 163.4, slight advantage to Young
Yards/Attempt: 9.3 to 9.4, dead heat

Don't have a reading defense stat and we haven't seen the Wonderlic (although we all know Bortles is going to score MUCH higher than Young did.)

They're pretty comparable, actually.
 
Honoring Earl 34 said:
VY won the big one and he was 6'5 . VY was raw like Bortles and had close to the same hand size and without looking I'll bet VY's stats are as good or better in a much tougher conference at the time .

*2005 Texas Big 12 QB 13 212 325 65.2 3036 9.3 9.6 26 10 163.9
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How's that ability to read defenses and Wunderlic (6) coming along? Next D VY reads will be his first.
 
Texian said:
How's that ability to read defenses and Wunderlic (6) coming along? Next D VY reads will be his first.
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They're closer than you want to admit.....

Many times it's not even about whether you can read a defense..most prospects coming out can....it's how fast you can read it & execute.

That was 1 of VY's issue among other things. He could read a defense....just couldn't read thm fast enough for the NFL. In any event, i see nothing in Bortles that says he's gonna be markedly better at it than VY was. & if last impressions are what we remember, Bortles looked terrible early on in that Baylor game trying to read the defense.
 
Honoring Earl 34 said:
You're right that's why I'm worried about Bortles .
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Mr teX said:
They're closer than you want to admit.....

Many times it's not even about whether you can read a defense..most prospects coming out can....it's how fast you can read it & execute.

That was 1 of VY's issue among other things. He could read a defense....just couldn't read thm fast enough for the NFL. In any event, i see nothing in Bortles that says he's gonna be markedly better at it than VY was. & if last impressions are what we remember, Bortles looked terrible early on in that Baylor game trying to read the defense.
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Bill O"Brien's assessment of Blake Bortles strongly disagrees with the both of you.
 
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