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Teddy Bridgewater

Texian said:
When you take into consideration the Texans only have $5.6 mil in cap space, it's going to be a doozy alright. One that Texans fans are not that familiar with. NFL teams on average allocate $5 million for IR, Practice Squad and LTBEs that leaves the Texans with roughly $0 to sign 15 contracts lost in free agency. Brutal? Yes indeedy it's going to be brutal. Brutally Bad!

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/houston-texans/cap-hit/2014/
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I see you're fishing again.
 
To me, the Geno Smith comparison seems to be just a physical comparison (size, athletic ability, etc.) and not a comparison between skill-sets or playing style.
 
WolverineFan said:
To me, the Geno Smith comparison seems to be just a physical comparison (size, athletic ability, etc.) and not a comparison between skill-sets or playing style.
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Yeah, I don't see it, but to each his own. I'm not going to spend hours debating it with people who feel the comparison is a solid one.
 
kingtexan said:
Whoever made that comparison was high as a kite ...
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Many accredited people.

I think it's the best one I've seen myself. Many QBs avoid the sack then first instinct is to take off and run until they're about to get hit or try to get to the chains.

ARod and TB both step up in the pocket, buy time with their feet, but are rarely looking to run. They always keep their eyes down the field attempting to get the ball into the hands of their play makers.

This IMO, is one of the most valuable skills that I look for in a QB that is very difficult to teach. It's a measured and controlled response to a fight or flight response, which of everything a QB does, this would have to be the hardest to teach.
 
TexansFTW said:
Many accredited people.

I think it's the best one I've seen myself. Many QBs avoid the sack then first instinct is to take off and run until they're about to get hit or try to get to the chains.

ARod and TB both step up in the pocket, buy time with their feet, but are rarely looking to run. They always keep their eyes down the field attempting to get the ball into the hands of their play makers.

This IMO, is one of the most valuable skills that I look for in a QB that is very difficult to teach. It's a measured and controlled response to a fight or flight response, which of everything a QB does, this would have to be the hardest to teach.
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Rodgers is a polished pro QB and had that quality in college, which it why is was so surprising to see him fall. TB is a project with perceived upside that may or may not pan out. Night and day in my opinion.
 
kingtexan said:
Rodgers is a polished pro QB and had that quality in college, which it why is was so surprising to see him fall. TB is a project with perceived upside that may or may not pan out. Night and day in my opinion.
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TB isn't a project like you think he is, IMO. He displays that same polish, with perhaps more scrutiny because the AAC is not the PAC-12. Project QB is a label that applies more to guys like Derek Carr or Johnny Manziel than TB, who I believe to be the most pro-ready QB prospect in this class, followed by McCarron (who I believe will be decidedly the definition of average).
 
htownfan32 said:
TB isn't a project like you think he is, IMO. He displays that same polish, with perhaps more scrutiny because the AAC is not the PAC-12. Project QB is a label that applies more to guys like Derek Carr or Johnny Manziel than TB, who I believe to be the most pro-ready QB prospect in this class, followed by McCarron (who I believe will be decidedly the definition of average).
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Yeah, of the reviews of TB I have read the split has been about 100 most pro-ready v. 0 project.
 
TexansFTW said:
Many accredited people.
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That's the comparison our draftniks here came up with when I asked.

TexansFTW said:
ARod and TB both step up in the pocket, buy time with their feet, but are rarely looking to run. They always keep their eyes down the field attempting to get the ball into the hands of their play makers.
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That could just as easily describe Rothlisberger, Romo, Brees, & yup... Matt Schaub. All of them very different from one another.
 
thunderkyss said:
That's the comparison our draftniks here came up with when I asked.



That could just as easily describe Rothlisberger, Romo, Brees, & yup... Matt Schaub. All of them very different from one another.
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Bridgewater will be a great pro. Reminds me of Aaron Rodgers coming out of Cal. - Bucky Brooks

(Making quarterback comparisons) Teddy Bridgewater: Aaron Rodgers – Matt Miller

I saw embryonic Rodgers aspects to (Bridgewater’s) game when he was on the move. – Doug Farrar

(Referring to Bridgewater) I really like (Doug Farrar’s) comp to Aaron Rodgers. I see it. - Joe Bussell
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Qualities Bridgewater and Rodgers are said to share:

Pocket Navigation
Ball Placement
Mobility
Vertical Passing
Velocity

http://draftbreakdown.com/the-right-comparison-for-bridgewater/
 
kingtexan said:
Then why is Manziel projected to go before TB on every board practically now?

No one will until they take the field in the pros, but I wouldn't draft him.
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Assuming you mean "mock" instead of "board", I'd still like you to prove this almost certain false statement.
 
Dishman said:
Qualities Bridgewater and Rodgers are said to share:

Pocket Navigation
Ball Placement
Mobility
Vertical Passing
Velocity

http://draftbreakdown.com/the-right-comparison-for-bridgewater/
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Bridgewater doesn't come close to Rodgers with velocity , he has a tendency to throw a lot of softballs and doesn't have near the arm strength. Seems to me people have watched a few highlights and made up their minds using that small portion of information ....
 
Corrosion said:
Bridgewater doesn't come close to Rodgers with velocity , he has a tendency to throw a lot of softballs and doesn't have near the arm strength. Seems to me people have watched a few highlights and made up their minds using that small portion of information ....
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his arm is good enough, its just he prefers to put more touch on his throws than throwing with extra zip.
if he wants to make those extra few yards he can.
 
Honoring Earl 34 said:
They always talk about guys going #1 overall as being a project . They also talk about Pink Floyd's " Wish You Were Here " as being a great CD for those herbs .
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Im assuming he used the word "project" to determine a player who needs time to sit and isn't pro ready. TB regardless of what you think of him as a prospect is clearly the most pro ready QB in the draft which is indicated by his ability to perform pre and post snap reads, calling audibles at the line of scrimmage and so on.


p.s. great album!!!
 
aussie_texan said:
his arm is good enough, its just he prefers to put more touch on his throws than throwing with extra zip.
if he wants to make those extra few yards he can.
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I wont argue that point .... Its pretty obvious he has a strong enough arm , just that those softballs bug me , and he does that a lot. Reminds me of many of Schaub's turnovers this year ....

I see quite a few flaws in his game , sloppy mechanics , loop in the top of the throwing motion , softballs , level of competition and the small hands issue which is yet to be confirmed.
 
Corrosion said:
I wont argue that point .... Its pretty obvious he has a strong enough arm , just that those softballs bug me , and he does that a lot. Reminds me of many of Schaub's turnovers this year ....

I see quite a few flaws in his game , sloppy mechanics , loop in the top of the throwing motion , softballs , level of competition and the small hands issue which is yet to be confirmed.
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ok thats a fair argument to make against him.

However i think that those sort of problems are correctable (the mechanics) and are perhaps "good" problems to have (talking about his "touch" throws here)
 
Allstar said:
Assuming you mean "mock" instead of "board", I'd still like you to prove this almost certain false statement.
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Kiper, McShay, Jeremiah, Brooks ...

Typically I pay more attention to the ESPN and NFL Network mocks so there may be others that still have TB higher, but from what I have heard he is already falling in most mocks from the top analysts.
 
Corrosion said:
Bridgewater doesn't come close to Rodgers with velocity , he has a tendency to throw a lot of softballs and doesn't have near the arm strength. Seems to me people have watched a few highlights and made up their minds using that small portion of information ....
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When was the last time you watched Aaron Rodgers in college? I bet it has been a while, but here you go:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V48DlitkTSg

Rodgers didn't have as much arm strength in college as he does now(very obvious in the video), and he had the benefit of sitting behind Favre for a couple years to improve his strength and knowledge of the game. I see some similarities between TB and Rodgers, but simply being like someone else doesn't mean they will become that guy either. It's a "take it with a grain of salt" thing, just meant for a quick comparison in playstyles.
 
kingtexan said:
Kiper, McShay, Jeremiah, Brooks ...

Typically I pay more attention to the ESPN and NFL Network mocks so there may be others that still have TB higher, but from what I have heard he is already falling in most mocks from the top analysts.
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How can you really fall if you haven't been to a workout ?
 
kingtexan said:
Kiper, McShay, Jeremiah, Brooks ...

Typically I pay more attention to the ESPN and NFL Network mocks so there may be others that still have TB higher, but from what I have heard he is already falling in most mocks from the top analysts.
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Those 4 might be the absolute worst at predicting drafts
 
aussie_texan said:
Im assuming he used the word "project" to determine a player who needs time to sit and isn't pro ready. TB regardless of what you think of him as a prospect is clearly the most pro ready QB in the draft which is indicated by his ability to perform pre and post snap reads, calling audibles at the line of scrimmage and so on.


p.s. great album!!!
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Remember what "they" said about DBs coached by Saban? That they're pretty close to their ceilings because they were so well coached at the college level?

I wonder how that applies to someone like Bridgewater.
 
TexansSeminole said:
Lol, it's only January.
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Dutchrudder said:
When was the last time you watched Aaron Rodgers in college? I bet it has been a while, but here you go:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V48DlitkTSg
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I've watched several Bridgewater videos over the last few weeks. That's the only video of Rodgers I've seen in a long time.

Just to note a few contrasts...

Notice how high Rodgers holds the ball. Then when he's made the decision to throw the ball goes back, then forward in one quick, fluid motion. Every QB is different, there are a hundred ways to skin a cat. But when evaluating a QB, what you're seeing Rodgers do there, is pretty close to perfect.

Watch his feet. A lot of those were rhythm throws. Three steps, his decision is made when the back foot drops, he steps into the throw in the direction of the receiver.... his throwing motion is also very fluid with his feet. Very quick, smooth, "natural." Again, perfect.

I have not seen one Bridgewater game, where he spends as much time under center as Rodgers does in that video.

At the beginning of the video, they say Rogers is 6'2" 215, he looks much thicker than Bridgewater.

Rodgers floated about 4 or 5 of those throws. I can't remember noticing Bridgewater floating any like that. Even though Rodgers made calls & adjustments, Bridgewater seemed to do a whole lot more directing before the snap. Rodgers looks clumsy compared to Bridgewater.

They don't look all that similar to me, but... this is the only Rodgers video I've seen.
 
thunderkyss said:
Notice how high Rodgers holds the ball. Then when he's made the decision to throw the ball goes back, then forward in one quick, fluid motion. Every QB is different, there are a hundred ways to skin a cat. But when evaluating a QB, what you're seeing Rodgers do there, is pretty close to perfect.
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I think you're wrong about that high ball being the correct way to hold it.

And here's why...

Go watch some of his highlights from the past year or two. An example here. He's been trained to STOP holding the ball that high. He holds the ball much lower, much closer to the way Bridgewater holds it now.

I don't think Bridgewater holding the ball low is a bad thing. I think it's a sign that he's studied guys like Rodgers and he's learned from it.
 
kingtexan said:
Kiper, McShay, Jeremiah, Brooks ...

Typically I pay more attention to the ESPN and NFL Network mocks so there may be others that still have TB higher, but from what I have heard he is already falling in most mocks from the top analysts.
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I'm pretty certain of those 4, only Kiper and Jeremiah have Manziel going before Teddy. They still have TB higher on their boards, so your statement is completely baseless. Only paying attention to ESPN and NFLN can really paint a picture different than reality, so it's understandable.
 
Sorry Mel, but no way am I paying to subscribe to BSPN to see his "detailed" mock on how we take Manziel first and Teddy will fall all the way to number 8. I don't have a problem with us taking Manziel, just doubt Teddy will fall that low. If the Vikes really want him they will trade up. Browns taking Bortles? I can see that happening.
 
The Pencil Neck said:
I think you're wrong about that high ball being the correct way to hold it.

And here's why...

Go watch some of his highlights from the past year or two. An example here. He's been trained to STOP holding the ball that high. He holds the ball much lower, much closer to the way Bridgewater holds it now.

I don't think Bridgewater holding the ball low is a bad thing. I think it's a sign that he's studied guys like Rodgers and he's learned from it.
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This...already been discussed earlier in this thread...don't understand why folks are still harping on how he holds the ball..Noone in the NFL holds it like that..it's simply a teaching tool to encourage throwing the ball over the shoulder.
 
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