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Teddy Bridgewater

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I knock him for leaning too much on his touch passes, but it truly is a strength. He's an artist w/ his touch most of the time.

The intriguing part of Bridgewater's game is how well he did w/ 7 step drops. He had more velocity & anticipation on these throws w/ no PA

Bridgewater got the most velocity on his passes when he was doing playaction rollouts, escaping the pocket, or on 7 step drops from center.

Louisville used him to start most games under center, but transition throughout to pistol, mildly sprinkle in zone-read.

Unlike a lot of college QB prospects, Bridgewater doesn't "click" thru his progressions. It's a smooth "scan" that opens up the whole field.

He's deceptive w/ his eyes & body mechanics to hold off safeties, to open up windows & hold off LBs for underneath screens.

Bridgewater has the most fluid & active feet in the pocket that I can remember from a college prospect. His eyes stay down field constantly

Teddy allows for a creative OC to give wildly different looks, weekly. He can do some zone-read, pistol, shotgun, under center, etc.

On the positive, Teddy Bridgewater has some great attributes to mold in the NFL.

Teddy's trust in his own ability to avoid the pass rush costs him at times. Has to learn to take check down when line is beaten.

Bridgewater needs to know when to add zip on his passes. He plays it "safe" w/ touch passes instead of adding zip far too often.

Bridgewater also adds in a looping motion to his throw occasionally. It's few & far between. It's not major, but needs to be coached out.

In pistol, he stares down & throws flat-footed on quick slants & barely misses I/MLBs jumping the route. He'll need to correct that as well.

Teddy has a nasty habit of sailing passes high & his targets usually go up to get it. In the NFL he'll lead in WRs carted off due to this.

On those passes he also relies too heavily on his touch. He rarely needles the ball in tight, instead he opts to lob to an area.

He operates on a defense from 1-25 yards, but when he attacks down field on throws of 30+ yds, don't get your hopes up.

My biggest issue w/ Bridgewater is his "go" routes & seam throws of 30+ yards. He throws to an area & hopes that the WR goes & gets it.

There are less questions with Teddy Bridgewater than Johnny Manziel for me, but he still has pros & cons. I'll start with the negatives...

Finally comfortable with who I believe Teddy Bridgewater is, as an NFL quarterback. I'll give my take, pros / cons in a minute.
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Yeah...I'm going to settle in on Bridgewater. I get this little inkling of wanting manziel, but when I watch the film Bridgewater is just so far advanced as a qb. Even in his highschool tapes he's a superior passer than manziel is now.

I've flirted with clowney, but I think Bridgewater is a much more valuable player. I think Bridgewater is going to be an elite player. Id rather face manziel as a jag than Bridgewater. I believe teddy B brings instant direction. An instant field general. A true distributor but a good enough playmaker to make things happen.

I keep looking for reasons to go with other guys and do other things, but I always am drawn back to teddy being the guy. I think it'd be a mistake not to take him. It would mean possibly passing on some fine players, but I think teddy is going to be a great qb.
 
Well done, thorough profile of TB with pics/audio/video on HT.com...

Texans 'On The Clock': Teddy Bridgewater

Awards
2013
• AAC Player of the Week (9/2)
• Howard Schnellenberger Award (MVP of UK-UofL game)
• Maxwell Award Semifinalist
• Davey O’Brien Semifinalist
• Manning Award Finalist
• Second team All-American Athletic Conference
• MVP of the Russell Athletic Bowl
2012
• BIG EAST Offensive Player of the Year
• Howard Schnellenberger Award (MVP of UK-UofL game)
• First Team All-BIG EAST
• MVP of the Sugar Bowl
• Selected honorable mention All-American by Pro Football Weekly
• First team All-BIG EAST by ESPN.com and Phil Steele
2011
• BIG EAST Rookie of the Year
• CBSSports.com Freshman All-American
• Sporting News Freshman All-American
• FoxSports Next 2011 Freshman All-American

Prospect Rankings
Scouts, Inc.: 12th
CBS Sports: 3rd
Draftek: 2nd
Bleacher Report: 5th
Mel Kiper's 'Big Board': 8th
ESPN.com/Todd McShay: 12th

Outlook
Louisville quarterback Teddy Bridgewater put an exclamation point on a fabulous career for the Cardinals, throwing for nearly 4,000 yards in 2013. The Miami, Fla., product hit the ground running for Louisville, playing in all 13 games as a freshman. Bridgewater was named Big East Rookie of the Year for his efforts, thus beginning the start of an illustrious career. Over his three years under center, Bridgewater's numbers constantly improved, as he completed a career-high 71 percent of his passes last season. The Cardinals ranked 16th in the country in total offense in 2013, and the junior's 3970 yards through the air placed him 10th in the NCAA. He finished fifth in the nation in passing efficiency with a 171.1 mark.

Bridgewater has already graduated from Louisville, and opted to turn professional after his junior season. His final game in a Louisville uniform proved memorable, as he went 35-for-45 for 447 yards and 3 TDs in a 36-9 whitewashing of Miami. He finished the year with 31 TDs to just four interceptions, the lowest total in his career.

Bridgewater is widely regarded as one of the top quarterbacks available in this year's draft, although is overall value as a prospect fluctuates with each publication.
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matts290 said:
How? They are literally nothing alike besides their skin color...
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That's what you see. That doesn't mean that is what everyone else sees. Just because you don't see it doesn't mean that somebody else does. When you put on the tape you can see a lot of similarities. In some instances Geno Smith's performances exceed Teddy Bridgewater performances. I happen to believe that Geno has the better arm. Don't forget in week 5 of the 2012 season Geno was the prohibitive favorite to win the Heisman. Besides the melanin, they're almost carbon copies of each other in height and weight. FYI I was Geno fan, still am. I thought he would be the first QB to be drafted (wrong) but wasn't sure he would go in RD 1 (right). If Geno had Teddy's defense he might've won the Heisman.
 
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matts290 said:
How? They are literally nothing alike besides their skin color...
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Don't bother Matt. Texian is a good guy and knows a lot, but he's an absolute troll when it comes to defending his QB (Bortles) or putting down the other QB a lot of people like (Bridge).

We've done this dance before about 30 pages ago.
 
TexansFTW said:
Don't bother Matt. Texian is a good guy and knows a lot, but he's an absolute troll when it comes to defending his QB (Bortles) or putting down the other QB a lot of people like (Bridge).

We've done this dance before about 30 pages ago.
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I really thought I was trying to answer the guys question honestly and as forthrightly as I could without trolling. He did ask me a question. I didn't mention Bortles, only pointed out a different perspective that he was not seeing or considering. I also didn't think my comparison of Geno and Bridgewater was a put down. My reading of the post I thought my comments were quite positive about Geno and therefore Teddy. From the viewpoint of a Teddy fanatic perspective maybe not.....
 
TexansFTW said:
Don't bother Matt. Texian is a good guy and knows a lot, but he's an absolute troll when it comes to defending his QB (Bortles) or putting down the other QB a lot of people like (Bridge).

We've done this dance before about 30 pages ago.
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Pretty sure Texian's a she
 
Texian said:
That's what you see. That doesn't mean that is what everyone else sees. Just because you don't see it doesn't mean that somebody else does. When you put on the tape you can see a lot of similarities. In some instances Geno Smith's performances exceed Teddy Bridgewater performances. I happen to believe that Geno has the better arm. Don't forget in week 5 of the 2012 season Geno was the prohibitive favorite to win the Heisman. Besides the melanin, they're almost carbon copies of each other in height and weight. FYI I was Geno fan, still am. I thought he would be the first QB to be drafted (wrong) but wasn't sure he would go in RD 1 (right). If Geno had Teddy's defense he might've won the Heisman.
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Thats what I was asking, if someone else sees that I was curious as what to their analysis is. Is there any scout or fan or anyone with a blog account that has compared Bridgewater to Geno?


Geno ran a spread Air Raid offense out of shotgun, Bridgewater runs a pro style offense, takes snaps under center in single back formation and performs 3,5,7 step drops.

Geno had a fairly strong arm, but lacked consistent accuracy and touch on his passes. Bridgewater appears to have average arm strength, but is very accurate and shows great touch on his short and intermediate throws. Many scouts said Geno was a very good deep passer while Bridgewater seems to need to work on his deep ball accuracy.

Footwork and mechanics. Again not a strength a Geno and something most people believe Teddy excels at.

As their last season went on, Geno only got worse and cracked under the heisman pressure, while Bridgewater only got better and ignored all the expectations put on him and his team

The biggest difference and what caused Smith to fail was his mental makeup and perceived work ethic and football IQ after the combine. Scouts and teams questioned Smiths qualities and many nasty reports came out saying he was not a student of the game, lazy, and lacking a passion for the game. As far as we can tell Bridgewater is none of these things and reports suggest he has an excellent IQ and is one of the hardest workers on the team.

So similarities I guess I see are skin color, comparable build, and similar athletic ability. Besides that I really don't see how anyone could compare the two QBs and why Bridgewater would start to free fall before the draft, because everything we know suggests once he gets into interviews and up to blackboards he will do nothing less than impress.
 
Texian said:
Mid 40s and still so juvenile.....
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disaacks3 said:
In case anyone was wondering, Texian isn't the only one to make the comparison.

http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2013/9/13/4707094/teddy-bridgewater-stats-louisville-football
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Bridgewater appears closer to the Griffin model than Smith, who played in an offense heavy on short passes and yards after the catch. That's good news for Louisville -- Griffin continued his strong start and won a Heisman, while Smith tailed off as 2012 went on.
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The former Mountaineer had 13 incompletions and averaged under eight yards per attempt in his next game, against Maryland, and had an awful four-game stretch in Big 12 play from mid-October to mid-November
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The article is from September and really the only comparison they made between the two is that both goth off to hot starts in their first 2 games of the season. In fact it points out a difference that I made in my previous post; Bridgewater continued his great season and ended with a bang in the bowl game against Miami, while Smith cooled off as the season went on.
 
matts290 said:
Thats what I was asking, if someone else sees that I was curious as what to their analysis is. Is there any scout or fan or anyone with a blog account that has compared Bridgewater to Geno?
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I don't think so.

Here, WalterFootball compares Geno to McNabb. I don't think I've heard anyone compare Bridgewater to McNabb.

Summary: Smith was one of the most consistently effective quarterbacks in college football over the past three seasons. He led some of the most prolific and high-powered offenses while showing steady improvement over the years.

Smith completed 65 percent of his passes in 2010 as a first-year starter for 2,763 yards with 24 touchdowns and seven interceptions. He made big improvements in year two and produced an excellent junior season for the Mountaineers. Smith completed 66 percent of his passes for 4,385 yards with 31 touchdowns and seven interceptions. He also ran for 180 yards and two scores.

The junior played his heart out against LSU's talented defense with 463 yards passing. That Tigers' defense was comprised of future NFL draft picks led by a superb secondary featuring Morris Claiborne, Tyrann Mathieu, Eric Reid and Brandon Taylor. Smith hung tough in the pocket despite constantly getting blasted by LSU's defensive line led by Michael Brockers, Sam Montgomery and Barkevious Mingo.

Smith started out the 2012 season on fire. Ignoring that Baylor's defense was the equivalent of a wet paper bag, the senior was a model of quarterback perfection in a record-setting performance. He had one of the most prolific games in college football history by completing 45-of-51 for 656 yards, eight touchdowns and zero interceptions. The signal-caller threw touchdown passes of 7, 47, 20, 2, 45, 52, 87 and 39 yards.

Smith played well against Texas to lead West Virginia to a road win. He completed 25-of-35 passes for 268 yards, four touchdowns and zero interceptions. Smith did have two fumbles though from sacks by Alex Okafor, one for a Texas touchdown and another inside his own 15-yard line.

The reason that Smith isn't a candidate to be the first-overall pick is due to a lack of consistency during the second half of his senior season. West Virginia struggled down the stretch. Smith had a poor showing against Kansas State, completing 21-of-32 passes for 143 yards, a touchdown and two interceptions. It was his second bad game in a row after struggling against Texas Tech. Both defenses took away the deep part of the field, and he couldn't engineer the Mountaineers' offense to dink-and-dunk well enough to move the ball or produce points.

Smith ended his collegiate career with an ugly game against Syracuse. He had fumbling issues and bad decisions which led to two safeties for the Mountaineers. Smith struggled against the Orange's pass rush.

The senior completed 71 percent of his passes this year for 4,356 yards, 42 touchdowns and six interceptions. Smith has an excellent skill set. He has demonstrated his intelligence and field vision by working through his progressions and looking off safeties. Smith has some natural accuracy with good arm strength to make all the throws. That adds up to him being able to fire some fastballs into tight windows with phenomenal ball placement to hit receivers in stride. He rarely ever throws interceptions and has superb decision-making.

Smith's plus mobility allows him to pick up first downs with his feet and bail out his offensive line. He will need to improve his footwork for the NFL and that is the primary reason why his accuracy can be inconsistent. Smith has to get more uniform with good feet to get in a rhythm and deliver the ball on point. If Smith can make strides with his feet, he could be a very accurate passer.

WalterFootball.com has heard from former teammates of Smith that he is extremely studious in the film room. For the most part, Smith has good intangibles, but there were times where he sulked on the sideline when things weren't going well for West Virginia. He needs to show more strength to handle adversity as a professional.

Smith has all the tools to be a franchise quarterback. He has the skill set to be a quality starter, but needs good talent around him. Whether or not Smith pans out will depend largely on him landing with a good, stable coaching staff.
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I have not watched a lot of Geno Smith in college, because I was not curious in him at all as far as our selections go. However, reading this, I see he is different from Bridgewater in that

Geno has the size. 6'2" 218lbs (they have Bridgewater listed as 218 as well)
Geno played in a major conference Big 12
Geno struggled in several games..... *supposedly better competition

They didn't think Geno could start from day 1.

But very similar in other ways.
 
matts290 said:
The article is from September and really the only comparison they made between the two is that both goth off to hot starts in their first 2 games of the season. In fact it points out a difference that I made in my previous post; Bridgewater continued his great season and ended with a bang in the bowl game against Miami, while Smith cooled off as the season went on.
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bah007 said:
This isn't even a comparison of the players as prospects. It's strictly a look at how their stats compared after the first two games of their respective final seasons.

So Texian is still the only one making that comparison as far as I can tell.
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He made a comment about Height , weight and how folks might consider him another Geno Smith. I then posted a link that compares a portion of their college careers statistically, since you folks say nobody has ever made any comparison.

When you can show he claimed a comparison of offensive styles, mechanics, footwork, etc. - then I'll understand what you're bitching about.
 
disaacks3 said:
He made a comment about Height , weight and how folks might consider him another Geno Smith. I then posted a link that compares a portion of their college careers statistically, since you folks say nobody has ever made any comparison.

When you can show he claimed a comparison of offensive styles, mechanics, footwork, etc. - then I'll understand what you're bitching about.
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You are confusing bitching with discussion, when Texian posted that people may compare Bridgewater to Smith I questioned it and asked how? I don't think asking for an explanation of such a claim is considered bitching.

Then you posted that link which is 4 months old and really the only comparison made is that that Smith, Griffin, and Bridgewater all 3 got off to hot starts in their respective season as Hesiman hopefuls. Then goes onto highlight that Smith played poorly in the second half of the season while Griffin continued his great play and won the Heisman. Again it was from September, before Bridgewater's season had barely begun so their was a lot of speculation on the writers part, but even he mentioned he saw Bridgewater continuting on his path of great play and not tapering off like Smith did in his final season.

So I say again, besides a couple physical attributes, what is there to compare between Bridgewater and Geno?
 
matts290 said:
You are confusing bitching with discussion, when Texian posted that people may compare Bridgewater to Smith I questioned it and asked how? I don't think asking for an explanation of such a claim is considered bitching.

Then you posted that link which is 4 months old and really the only comparison made is that that Smith, Griffin, and Bridgewater all 3 got off to hot starts in their respective season as Hesiman hopefuls. Then goes onto highlight that Smith played poorly in the second half of the season while Griffin continued his great play and won the Heisman. Again it was from September, before Bridgewater's season had barely begun so their was a lot of speculation on the writers part, but even he mentioned he saw Bridgewater continuting on his path of great play and not tapering off like Smith did in his final season.
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They are both black. (There's really no comparison at all.) TB by all accounts is a smart, hardworking, dedicated to his craft young man. Geno not so much.
 
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matts290 said:
You are confusing bitching with discussion, when Texian posted that people may compare Bridgewater to Smith I questioned it and asked how? I don't think asking for an explanation of such a claim is considered bitching.

Then you posted that link which is 4 months old and really the only comparison made is that that Smith, Griffin, and Bridgewater all 3 got off to hot starts in their respective season as Hesiman hopefuls. Then goes onto highlight that Smith played poorly in the second half of the season while Griffin continued his great play and won the Heisman. Again it was from September, before Bridgewater's season had barely begun so their was a lot of speculation on the writers part, but even he mentioned he saw Bridgewater continuting on his path of great play and not tapering off like Smith did in his final season.

So I say again, besides a couple physical attributes, what is there to compare between Bridgewater and Geno?
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So, now you're bitching about the age of the article? You folks need some midol.

The comparison was even favorable to TB, but that's not enough for y'all. No, you have to act like no comparison was ever made. Might want to read the title of the article again.

Even better, try Google and put in Geno Smith and Teddy Bridgewater and see if you can find more comparisons. I sure could.

So, again, try to show he made a comparison that was invalid. You haven't...twice.

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steelbtexan said:
They are both black. (There's really no comparison at all.) TB by all accounts is a smart, hardworking, dedicated to his craft young man. Geno not so much.
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:clap: Well said.

I do think Geno is hardworking too, but unfortunately for him, he just doesn't have nearly the football IQ.

disaacks3 said:
So, now you're bitching about the age of the article? You folks need some midol.
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Great hearing from you overly aggressive internet guy.
 
disaacks3 said:
So, now you're bitching about the age of the article? You folks need some midol.

The comparison was even favorable to TB, but that's not enough for y'all. No, you have to act like no comparison was ever made. Might want to read the title of the article again.

Even better, try Google and put in Geno Smith and Teddy Bridgewater and see if you can find more comparisons. I sure could.

So, again, try to show he made a comparison that was invalid. You haven't...twice.

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Holy crap you are dense, how is posting a fact: "The article is from September 4" considered bitching to you? I pointed that out because it was relevant to the point I was making, which was the article was written before Bridgwater had completed his final season...again another FACT

Why is it that the most senior members of this board are the worst posters? I was legitimately trying to engage in a discussion as to how Geno and Bridgewater compared, but then called names instead. :toropalm:
 
steelbtexan said:
... but even he mentioned he saw Bridgewater continuting on his path of great play and not tapering off like Smith did in his final season.
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Actually, he said Bridgewater's remaining schedule was so easy, he couldn't imagine TB tailing off.

Which is why the level of competition piece is so important.
 
Honestly I am not trying to argue that Teddy is some super holy prospect that is in another stratosphere than Geno and shouldn't even be mentioned in the same sentence. I just am really curious how they compare because I really don't see many similarities in their game regardless of how good one or the other is.
 
matts290 said:
Holy crap you are dense, how is posting a fact: "The article is from September 4" considered bitching to you? I pointed that out because it was relevant to the point I was making, which was the article was written before Bridgwater had completely his final season...again another FACT

Why is it that the most senior members of this board are the worst posters? I was legitimately trying to engage in a discussion as to how Geno and Bridgewater compared, but then called names instead. :toropalm:
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If I'm dense, you're a dolt.

It's not relevant? So Teddy and Geno never had collegiate football seasons? They never had great statistical success? They weren't likely to be drafted by an NFL team? The only year that is ever measured is the Senior season of the player? :thinking:

Sounds absurd, doesn't it? About as absurd as throwing out any comparison because the article is from a time before your mind finds it relevant.


Since you seem to think there's something wrong with long-time posters, here's a clue rookie: I don't know Texian. I have major differences of opinion with Texian on several issues. I saw something in here being mischaracterized (2nd one this week) and decided to show that it wasn't something being pulled from the crevices of that poster's posterior alone. I provided suporting evidence. In BOTH cases this week, the offending accuser took potshots at me. In both cases, I've responded in kind. In your case, maybe you just don't understand how condescending you come across.
 
matts290 said:
Honestly I am not trying to argue that Teddy is some super holy prospect that is in another stratosphere than Geno and shouldn't even be mentioned in the same sentence. I just am really curious how they compare because I really don't see many similarities in their game regardless of how good one or the other is.
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I posted a draft report of Geno Smith, though I've never heard the comparisons, reading that report, it could have just as easily been describing Teddy Bridgewater, other than the consistency issues they saw in the second half of Geno's senior year.... but, like I've said, that's where S.O.S. comes into play.
 
thunderkyss said:
I posted a draft report of Geno Smith, though I've never heard the comparisons, reading that report, it could have just as easily been describing Teddy Bridgewater, other than the consistency issues they saw in the second half of Geno's senior year.... but, like I've said, that's where S.O.S. comes into play.
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Missed that post, it does bring up some things they said about Geno last year that are being said this year about Teddy, specifically this paragraph.

The senior completed 71 percent of his passes this year for 4,356 yards, 42 touchdowns and six interceptions. Smith has an excellent skill set. He has demonstrated his intelligence and field vision by working through his progressions and looking off safeties. Smith has some natural accuracy with good arm strength to make all the throws. That adds up to him being able to fire some fastballs into tight windows with phenomenal ball placement to hit receivers in stride. He rarely ever throws interceptions and has superb decision-making.
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Either way, one is in the NFL already and one is on our mock boards, lets just hope if we do happen to draft Teddy his rookie season doesn't turn out like Geno's did.
 
I guess I don't understand why we are discussing Geno Smith with Teddy Bridgewater.

Let me start by saying I liked Geno coming out of college as a dynamic player who might be able to make some special plays. I even drafted him in our TT mock draft to the Jags @ #2 (no trades) thinking they could sit him for a year to learn while Gabbert sunk or swam.

Geno Smith came from a spread offense, took most snaps from shotgun, and even had people questioning if he was a student of the game. Serious NFL transitional concerns.

Teddy Bridgewater comes from a more pro-style West Coast Offense, makes adjustments and checks at the line, and is said to be a true student of the game which shows on the field as he completely takes over the offense. I don't see much risk in a guy who devours coaching like Teddy is said to do.
 
Blake said:
I guess I don't understand why we are discussing Geno Smith with Teddy Bridgewater.

Let me start by saying I liked Geno coming out of college as a dynamic player who might be able to make some special plays. I even drafted him in our TT mock draft to the Jags @ #2 (no trades) thinking they could sit him for a year to learn while Gabbert sunk or swam.

Geno Smith came from a spread offense, took most snaps from shotgun, and even had people questioning if he was a student of the game. Serious NFL transitional concerns.

Teddy Bridgewater comes from a more pro-style West Coast Offense, makes adjustments and checks at the line, and is said to be a true student of the game which shows on the field as he completely takes over the offense. I don't see much risk in a guy who devours coaching like Teddy is said to do.
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Agree'd. Teddy is very pro ready & should assimilate playbook quickly while picking apart defensive schemes/disguises. Of course he will have his struggles but who doesn't? Geno is a scheme QB while Teddy is scheme diverse, which should enable Bill O'Brian to make the Texans offense much less predictable.
 
bOODRO87 said:
This offseason is going to be brutal.

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When you take into consideration the Texans only have $5.6 mil in cap space, it's going to be a doozy alright. One that Texans fans are not that familiar with. NFL teams on average allocate $5 million for IR, Practice Squad and LTBEs that leaves the Texans with roughly $0 to sign 15 contracts lost in free agency. Brutal? Yes indeedy it's going to be brutal. Brutally Bad!

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/houston-texans/cap-hit/2014/
 
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