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Blake Bortles

Texian said:
Unlike most here there is no preconceived like or dislike. Only reality based unbiased and objectivity. There is the ability to think beyond the 2013 Sugar Bowl, there is the ability to think for one's self not what the media tells you to believe.

There is no difference in a 20 yard pass from shotgun formation in a Pro Set or some kind of spread. A 20 yard out is a 20 yard out, a 40 yard post is a 40 yard post, a 15 yard cross is a 15 yard cross, a 12 yard hook is 12 yard hook. A 25 yard TD run is a 25 yard TD run.

Hint: Put your money on the team with $40 mil to be more competitive than a team with only $8 Mil. Basic common sense and logic vs a whole bunch of wishing and hoping.
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You are as unobjective as a mother with a kid in a beauty pagent .


The team with less money means they haven't paid up yet .
 
Honoring Earl 34 said:
You are as unobjective as a mother with a kid in a beauty pagent .
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I make up my mind after watching hundreds of hours of actual college games. You and your brethren on the other hand, are only as good as the lastest Bleacher Report or the last talking bobble head you listened to. But in your mind you think you're the better informed.....go figure. All Hail Todd McShay, All hail Matt Miller.
 
Texian said:
I make up my mind after watching hundreds of hours of actual college games. You and your brethren on the other hand, are only as good as the lastest Bleacher Report or the last talking bobble head you listened to. But in your mind you think you're the better informed.....go figure. All Hail Todd McShay, All hail Matt Miller.
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Ever wonder why nobody, literally nobody takes you seriously?
 
Texian said:
I make up my mind after watching hundreds of hours of actual college games. You and your brethren on the other hand, are only as good as the lastest Bleacher Report or the last talking bobble head you listened to. But in your mind you think you're the better informed.....go figure. All Hail Todd McShay, All hail Matt Miller.
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Damn dude...ive never put anyone on ignore list in 8 years i have been here but looks like you might be the first.
 
yeah, you peons have nothing on texian. only he can go through hours upon hours of game film every day while his significant other cybers on cam with Darnell, Jamal and the boys online in the next room...All so he could be the best informed to grace us with his opinions.


mad respect.
 
Texian said:
I make up my mind after watching hundreds of hours of actual college games. You and your brethren on the other hand, are only as good as the lastest Bleacher Report or the last talking bobble head you listened to. But in your mind you think you're the better informed.....go figure. All Hail Todd McShay, All hail Matt Miller.
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Holy Smokes! Tuned in to watch Colts vs Chiefs and ended up watching Andrew Luck doing his very best Blake Bortles impersonation. Throws a couple of INTs but is never bothered. Cool, calm and collected Luck leads his team back from a big deficit for another 4th quarter WIN, JUST LIKE BLAKE BORTLES. Can you believe it??? :)
 
thunderkyss said:
For an apples to "kinda" apples comparison, how many yards did TeddyB have vs Miami without the awesome effort & YAC from his receiver?
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True, for that 1 game, so I guess Teddy would go from 460 yards to 360?

Bigger question whose game is predicated on such an offense?

People here who are trying to argue the shotgun spread is a winning offense in the pros is stuck on dumb. No play action, no power run game. All slight of hand.

Bortles didn't make 1 NFL throw the other night. It's easy to throw to wide open guys and dump off to your playmaker.

Teddy B found 10 different receivers. It was a passing clinic, go back and watch it and be witness to real quarterbacking.
 
Uncle Rico said:
True, for that 1 game, so I guess Teddy would go from 460 yards to 360?

Bigger question whose game is predicated on such an offense?

People here who are trying to argue the shotgun spread is a winning offense in the pros is stuck on dumb. No play action, no power run game. All slight of hand.

Bortles didn't make 1 NFL throw the other night. It's easy to throw to wide open guys and dump off to your playmaker.

Teddy B found 10 different receivers. It was a passing clinic, go back and watch it and be witness to real quarterbacking.
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You have no idea at all what a NFL throw is or you wouldn't have said that. Hell, please explain what "you think" is an NFL throw and what isn't.

He made at least two great throws down the field which is what a lot of scouts want to see. It's fine to have a guy you favor like Bridgewater. Everyone likes one guy over the other, but to sit here and make up utter complete lies about other QB's because they aren't named Bridgewater makes you seem so immature.
 
Texian said:
Holy Smokes! Tuned in to watch Colts vs Chiefs and ended up watching Andrew Luck doing his very best Blake Bortles impersonation. Throws a couple of INTs but is never bothered. Cool, calm and collected Luck leads his team back from a big deficit for another 4th quarter WIN, JUST LIKE BLAKE BORTLES. Can you believe it??? :)
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Starting to think texian IS Bortles?

Would explain a lot.

Although I am on team Bortles assuming we trade back to get him he is by no means an Andrew luck clone. I don't care what stats you dig up.

And for your reference - it would be Bortles doing his best Andrew luck impersonation, not the other way around.
 
Uncle Rico said:
https://mobile.twitter.com/greggabe/status/41988349140103577

https://mobile.twitter.com/greggabe

He doesn't seem too fond of the heartwarming story that is Bortles.

Boller? Gabbert? Ouch.

Hopefully his 30 years in a scouting/executive capacity is acceptable.
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I appreciate all input, pro and con. Like I said, I try to be as unbiased and objective as I can. I stopped falling in love with players long ago. That is the first Boller, Gabbert comparison I have seen.
 
2slik4u said:
Starting to think texian IS Bortles?

Would explain a lot.

Although I am on team Bortles assuming we trade back to get him he is by no means an Andrew luck clone. I don't care what stats you dig up.

And for your reference - it would be Bortles doing his best Andrew luck impersonation, not the other way around.
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Humor 2slik4u. Just a little humor. Having some fun at the Bridgewater Fanatics & Fan Club expense. Nothing more. Relax!...and have some fun!
 
I've got to say both Phillip Rivers & Andy Dalton suck, playoff teams or not both teams should think about entering Bortles sweepstakes.
 
BooYah.....must have got an early call from Bill, ladies and gentlemen and all Texans fans meet your new starting QB: :) :) :) :) :)

Joe Schad ‏@schadjoe 3m

Blake Bortles UCF QB will enter NFL Draft. (First reported Orlando Sentinel)
 
Texian said:
BooYah.....must have got an early call from Bill, ladies and gentlemen and all Texans fans meet your new starting QB:

Joe Schad ‏@schadjoe 3m

Blake Bortles UCF QB will enter NFL Draft. (First reported Orlando Sentinel)
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I have no problems with Bortles. He reminds me the most of Luck in this draft.
 
JCTexan said:
I have no problems with Bortles. He reminds me the most of Luck in this draft.
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Eh, he looks and runs like Luck. That's where the similarities end though, unfortunately.

I'd be on board if we took him. But he needs some time before he's ready.
 
stingray said:
Damn dude...ive never put anyone on ignore list in 8 years i have been here but looks like you might be the first.
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You kiddin me. I have about 9 people on mine. Too bad it doesn't work when the person on your ignore list is quoted.
 
JCTexan said:
Who would you compare Bortles to?
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I think he's a cross between Roethlisberger and Jake Locker. He has tools. But anybody that expects him to take the league by storm is mistaken. He will need time to mentally adapt to the NFL.
 
bah007 said:
I think he's a cross between Roethlisberger and Jake Locker. He has tools. But anybody that expects him to take the league by storm is mistaken. He will need time to mentally adapt to the NFL.
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Good comparison

As does every other QB in the NFL. It will be atleast 3 yrs before any of these QB's will be SB worthy.
 
steelbtexan said:
Good comparison

As does every other QB in the NFL. It will be atleast 3 yrs before any of these QB's will be SB worthy.
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I think there are a select few QBs who come into the league ready to go. Luck and Matt Ryan fall into this category. Bridgewater may. He is very pro ready. He is mentally light years ahead of the other prospects in this draft. His physical skills will determine his potential.

But for the most part, most rookie QBs would benefit from a year on the bench adapting to the NFL style of play.
 
http://espn.go.com/blog/houston-tex...ons?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

More on Bortles from the Orlando Sentinel:

Bortles passed for 3,581 yards, 25 touchdowns and nine interceptions, completing 67.8 percent of his passes. He also rushed for another 272 yards and six touchdowns, earning American Athletic Conference offensive player of the year honors.

It was his play in close games that vaulted him into the national spotlight. Bortles navigated UCF through seven wins by seven points or less to capture the conference championship and an automatic Bowl Championship Series bid.

Playing on the biggest stage in school history against Baylor in the Fiesta Bowl, Bortles showed the poise that has made him such a valuable prospect. After throwing two early interceptions, he bounced back to pass for three touchdowns and run for another as UCF stunned the heavily-favored Bears.

Bortles has intrigued NFL scouts with his mix of size, athleticism and toughness.

Listed at 6-foot-4 and 230 pounds, he has the frame coveted by NFL scouts. Bortles also has a strong arm and is capable of making all of the throws needed at the NFL level. His elusiveness in the pocket and ability to escape pressure to make plays is also a major plus.
 
I really like what I've seen of Bortles. Roethlisberger is the guy he reminded me of and bah007's Roethlisberger/Locker mashup is a great comp.

When Roethlisberger was a rook, they restricted the offense to minimize the reads and to cut the field to make things easier for him. And he was hugely successful that year. Bortles could be that kind of guy.

It's going to be interesting to see the Combine.
 
Matt Miller ‏@nfldraftscout
And so begins the 5 month debate over which QB should go first overall--Teddy Bridgewater or Blake Bortles. I like both, but give me Teddy
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bah007 said:
I think he's a cross between Roethlisberger and Jake Locker. He has tools. But anybody that expects him to take the league by storm is mistaken. He will need time to mentally adapt to the NFL.
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Why Locker?

His completion percentages were terrible in college. Is Bortles that inaccurate? His completion percentage is much higher.
 
Playoffs said:
2014 NFL Mock Draft: Blake Bortles No. 1 to the Texans makes sense
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Bortles is built well for NFL competition and has the make-up and skill-set that coaches and scouts seek in a “franchise” quarterback. At 6-4 and 230 pounds, he has good arm strength and downfield vision, but also quick feet and terrific mobility to be a threat with his legs. Bortles has above average poise, pocket presence and overall feel for what's going on around him, showing the ability to execute under pressure and improvise when needed. His release and arm strength are similar to Andrew Luck and his size, mobility and clutch attributes are very reminiscent of a young Ben Roethlisberger.

O'Brien even had the chance to see Bortles first-hand during the 2013 season when Central Florida visited Happy Valley this past September and left with a 34-31 victory. Bortles finished the game 20-for-27 (74.1%) for 288 yards, three touchdowns and one interception, handing Penn State its first loss of the season. After the game, O'Brien had this to say about the Knights junior quarterback:

“Anytime you have a quarterback like [Blake Bortles], who is accurate, has a strong arm, is big, and can stand in the pocket and can run, it is a difficult challenge. He played a great game tonight and all the credit to him. I think he is a heck of a player. I didn't get a chance to meet him or say hello to him, but I think he is a heck of a player. He had a great game.”
 
could you imagine if we took bortles number 1 than the jags took TB. man he would be pissed and playing him twice a year would surely make for some intriguing story lines.
 
aussie_texan said:
could you imagine if we took bortles number 1 than the jags took TB. man he would be pissed and playing him twice a year would surely make for some intriguing story lines.
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Any QB that goes to Jax is doomed from the start....

No O-line, traded their best one to Baltimore

No WR, at least none that can stay out of trouble

If TB goes to JAX, I would be more sad for TB than afraid...
 
Texian said:
Bortles is built well for NFL competition and has the make-up and skill-set that coaches and scouts seek in a “franchise” quarterback. At 6-4 and 230 pounds, he has good arm strength and downfield vision, but also quick feet and terrific mobility to be a threat with his legs. Bortles has above average poise, pocket presence and overall feel for what's going on around him, showing the ability to execute under pressure and improvise when needed. His release and arm strength are similar to Andrew Luck and his size, mobility and clutch attributes are very reminiscent of a young Ben Roethlisberger.

O'Brien even had the chance to see Bortles first-hand during the 2013 season when Central Florida visited Happy Valley this past September and left with a 34-31 victory. Bortles finished the game 20-for-27 (74.1%) for 288 yards, three touchdowns and one interception, handing Penn State its first loss of the season. After the game, O'Brien had this to say about the Knights junior quarterback:

“Anytime you have a quarterback like [Blake Bortles], who is accurate, has a strong arm, is big, and can stand in the pocket and can run, it is a difficult challenge. He played a great game tonight and all the credit to him. I think he is a heck of a player. I didn't get a chance to meet him or say hello to him, but I think he is a heck of a player. He had a great game.”
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10 to 1 Texian. Cut, pasted and posted that with one hand. :heart:
 
On the radio just now LZ said that he has sources saying Shortles will be our pick at #1 after all is said and done. Take that for what it's worth.
 
TheIronDuke said:
On the radio just now LZ said that he has sources saying Shortles will be our pick at #1 after all is said and done. Take that for what it's worth.
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so he's insinuating that the texans have already made up their mind even tho the evaluation process hasn't even kicked into gear yet...


:toropalm:
 
I don't really have any opinion one way or the other, but it cracks me up that one of his upsides was he was able to throw two interceptions.

/signed first two games of the season.
 
TheIronDuke said:
On the radio just now LZ said that he has sources saying Shortles will be our pick at #1 after all is said and done. Take that for what it's worth.
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So some chicken is afraid to attach his name to a draft prediction? Unless it is someone who can make draft decisions for the Texans or his right hand man being anonymous just sounds ridiculous.
 
Texian said:
Unlike most here there is no preconceived like or dislike. Only reality based unbiased and objectivity. There is the ability to think beyond the 2013 Sugar Bowl, there is the ability to think for one's self not what the media tells you to believe.

There is no difference in a 20 yard pass from shotgun formation in a Pro Set or some kind of spread. A 20 yard out is a 20 yard out, a 40 yard post is a 40 yard post, a 15 yard cross is a 15 yard cross, a 12 yard hook is 12 yard hook. A 25 yard TD run is a 25 yard TD run.

Hint: Put your money on the team with $40 mil to be more competitive than a team with only $8 Mil. Basic common sense and logic vs a whole bunch of wishing and hoping.
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lol, sorry Tex. You're far from unbiased. Your information is good that's why I don't blast you like most others do, but you definitely show quite a bit of bias.

The money thing can't be argued though. We R F'd.

TexansSeminole said:
Ever wonder why nobody, literally nobody takes you seriously?
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In his defense, I do. I disagree w/ him often too.

Engaging in a back and forth argument I learned long ago is just a time suck though. He's got good information and you shouldn't be so quick to dismiss.

JCTexan said:
Who would you compare Bortles to?
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Ryan Tannehill, maybe Jake Locker (who showed me in a limited time he was on the field this year that he COULD be an NFL QB).

I think he (Bortles) can be very good, but bottom end of top 10 QBs is the ceiling I see for him, which is hardly bad, don't get me wrong.

Texian said:
A team that beat the Texans twice....so what does that make any QB who goes to Houston?
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Ouch. Sad, but true. At least for us it will (hopefully) only be a 1 year thing.
 
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TexansFTW said:
Ryan Tannehill, maybe Jake Locker (who showed me in a limited time he was on the field this year that he COULD be an NFL QB).

I think he (Bortles) can be very good, but bottom end of top 10 QBs is the ceiling I see for him, which is hardly bad, don't get me wrong.
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If a guy is good enough to go in the top 10 then he's not a reach at 1-1, as far as I'm concerned.

I don't believe in the BPA concept because I don't believe that there is such a thing as the "best player." The rankings of the players is purely subjective. So team A's BPA isn't going to be team B's BPA and that's certainly not the same as Mel Kiper's BPA.

Each team has to know its needs and its strengths and weaknesses. When they rank the players, they should be ranking by which player is going to have the most positive impact on their team.

So if we decide to take Bortles or Manziel or Bridgewater or Clowney first, I'm fine with that as long as the FO is right in determining that whichever guy they choose is going to have a huge impact on this team. BUT... with the rookie wage scale, it's not as important to hit on that 1-1 (or even top-10) pick as it used to be.

If we go with Bortles, he doesn't have to be the next Peyton Manning to be worth the 1-1 pick. He just needs to evolve into upper echelon QB in a year or two.

Up until the last few years, it was so rare for rookie QBs to be successful that it was silly. IIRC, only one rookie starting QB had a winning record in the history of the NFL prior to Roethlisberger... and now we've had a run of rookie and second year QBs doing great things.

I'm hoping whoever we pick duplicates that sort of Russell Wilson/Roethlisberger/RGIII success but the odds are against it. So I'm not expecting him to hit the ground running as an upper echelon QB.
 
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