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Blake Bortles

Texian said:
I do understand the context of team concept. Blake Bortles took his team to Louisville Kentucky and beat Teddy Bridgewater and his team on their home field. And Bortles runs more like Andrew Luck than Joe Flacco.
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Bortles is no Andrew Luck. silly rabbit.
 
Texian said:
and yet Blake Bortles beat Teddy Bridgewater in Louisville no less with a Game Winning Drive

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AsHSYdNv2C4

and Blake is going to a BCS Bowl Game and Teddy is not.
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You sorta walked into that one.

I based my QB pick on...

1. Throwing motion (TB stands tall, release point seems close to his ear. Bortles looks like hes throwing a shot-put sometimes)

2. Completion Percentage with huge yardage. Both are good, but Teddy has been 68.5 and 70.2 in the past 2 years. A big indication to me that he is ready for the NFL.

3. Turnovers. Bortles almost has double the INT's that Bridgewater has.
 
Blake said:
You sorta walked into that one.

I based my QB pick on...

1. Throwing motion (TB stands tall, release point seems close to his ear. Bortles looks like hes throwing a shot-put sometimes)

2. Completion Percentage with huge yardage. Both are good, but Teddy has been 68.5 and 70.2 in the past 2 years. A big indication to me that he is ready for the NFL.

3. Turnovers. Bortles almost has double the INT's that Bridgewater has.
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Walked in to what? Bortles INTs 17, Bridgewater INTs 24

3 of Bortles INTs this year came against Penn St and South Carolina, Bridgewater he hasn't played against this level of play this year.
 
beerlover said:
Bortles is no Andrew Luck. silly rabbit.
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And if you think Bortles RUNS more like Flacco than Andrew Luck, welcome to the silly club. Key word is RUNS here people. And just like that, right on cue, Blake Bortles RUNS for a TD. :)
 
If the Texans have Bortles as their #1 QB in the draft would anybody have a problem with taking him #1 overall?
 
JCTexan said:
If the Texans have Bortles as their #1 QB in the draft would anybody have a problem with taking him #1 overall?
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Possibly.

Jerry Jones supposedly had a 1st round grade on a player that the rest of the league saw as a 2nd/3rd rounder. So he threw away value in selecting that player in that slot, imo.

If the Texans prefer Bortles and the rest of the league has Bridgewater concensus 1/1, then a good GM would trade down and add a pick. Because there would be at least one team that highly covets Bridgewater.

My concern is more not who they take, but who's making the selection. If they hire a DC as a head coach, does Rick Smith have the chops to choose the right guy? I think I'd rather have Kubiak doing that, but that's not an option.
 
Texian said:
Walked in to what? Bortles INTs 17, Bridgewater INTs 24

3 of Bortles INTs this year came against Penn St and South Carolina, Bridgewater he hasn't played against this level of play this year.
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Walked into looking foolish earlier by basing your QB rankings on their one head to head matchup.

Bortles 7 INTS (2013)
Bridgewater 3 INTS (2013)
 
Blake said:
Walked into looking foolish earlier by basing your QB rankings on their one head to head matchup.

Bortles 7 INTS (2013)
Bridgewater 3 INTS (2013)
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Just fyi, in that head-to-head matchup Bridgewater was 29/38 for 341 yards and 2 TD's. He also led a 4th quarter TD drive to take the lead with 3 minutes left. UCF scored to take the lead with 23 seconds left and won the game.
 
WolverineFan said:
Just fyi, in that head-to-head matchup Bridgewater was 29/38 for 341 yards and 2 TD's. He also led a 4th quarter TD drive to take the lead with 3 minutes left. UCF scored to take the lead with 23 seconds left and won the game.
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Yeah that is exactly my point. I dont base QB rankings off which QB scored last. Especially since TB took the lead moments before.
 
2014 NFL Draft: Rallying UCF in cold, Blake Bortles shows 1st-round form

In guiding Central Florida to a 17-13 comeback win over SMU in frigid conditions, junior quarterback Blake Bortles provided evidence of his poise, toughness and ability to play well in the cold. These traits, along with awareness, accuracy, athleticism and size are key factors in why the junior quarterback is gaining traction as a potential first-round selection in the 2014 NFL draft.

The 6-foot-3, 230 pound Bortles was recruited as a tight end, and the size, strength and athleticism that initially led to this projection were on display in this contest as the junior showed off the functional mobility necessary for success in today's NFL.

While not an elite athlete, Bortles showed enough quickness and fluidity to run away from defenders when necessary. More importantly, he showed the vision and courage to step up in the pocket to exhaust his options before tucking it to run.

Bortles' thick, broad-shouldered frame has earned comparisons to everyone from NFL stars Andrew Luck and Ben Roethlisberger to Tim Tebow. His build is a stark contrast to the slim frames of the other highly regarded underclassmen quarterbacks, most notably Louisville's Teddy Bridgewater (6-foot-3, 205), Texas A&M's Johnny Manziel (5-foot-11, 210) and even UCLA's Brett Hundley, who looks slimmer than his listed 6-foot-3, 222 pounds.

A year ago, the Buffalo Bills cited EJ Manuel's size and ability to play in the cold...
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Second game in a row I focused on Bortles only to be disappointed. He needs to return to school but with only having TB, Manziel, and Carr for top half of first he will come out. I could see him as a developmental guy to sit and learn but we need a starter at pick one. I rate Bridgewater well over Bortles.

Clarification: I expect Hundley to return.
 
Texian said:
did you even watch the game or are you just being argumenative?
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Yes I watched the game. Did you? Hey you're the one judges QB's this way not me. Just pointing out that that is a really really really STUPID way to determan the value of ANY player.
 
badboy said:
Second game in a row I focused on Bortles only to be disappointed. He needs to return to school but with only having TB, Manziel, and Carr for top half of first he will come out. I could see him as a developmental guy to sit and learn but we need a starter at pick one. I rate Bridgewater well over Bortles.

Clarification: I expect Hundley to return.
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I thought he looked really good in the second half. Especially considering the freezing weather.
 
At this point, it pretty much seems like a slam dunk that Bortles will be taken in the top 20. I think he's either the 2nd or 3rd QB off the board.

If he waited til next year he is probably still the 2nd QB off the board because Winston is the likely #1 pick.

No reason not to come out.

It helps us if he does. It gives us another guy to evaluate for our pick. And if we don't like him enough maybe someone else does and we can use him to trade back.
 
This is why the Houston Texans should strongly consider Blake Bortles as their next QB and their future answer to Andrew Luck;

"Oviedo coach Wes Allen was on vacation in August 2009 when he got a call from his quarterback, Blake Bortles. The then-high school senior told Allen he was going to commit to UCF and asked one favor of his coach.

"'I'm committed,'" Allen recalled Bortles saying. "I don't want any other distractions. I don't want to hear from other teams during the season. The only thing I'm focused on now is Oviedo."

and

"Rob Bortles, Blake's father, said the family will not weigh any draft decisions until after the Fiesta Bowl in order to avoid distractions going into the season-ending game."
 
Texian said:
This is why the Houston Texans should strongly consider Blake Bortles as their next QB and their future answer to Andrew Luck;

"Oviedo coach Wes Allen was on vacation in August 2009 when he got a call from his quarterback, Blake Bortles. The then-high school senior told Allen he was going to commit to UCF and asked one favor of his coach.

"'I'm committed,'" Allen recalled Bortles saying. "I don't want any other distractions. I don't want to hear from other teams during the season. The only thing I'm focused on now is Oviedo."

and

"Rob Bortles, Blake's father, said the family will not weigh any draft decisions until after the Fiesta Bowl in order to avoid distractions going into the season-ending game."
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his talent is why they should consider him.
 
Texian said:
This is why the Houston Texans should strongly consider Blake Bortles as their next QB and their future answer to Andrew Luck;

"Oviedo coach Wes Allen was on vacation in August 2009 when he got a call from his quarterback, Blake Bortles. The then-high school senior told Allen he was going to commit to UCF and asked one favor of his coach.

"'I'm committed,'" Allen recalled Bortles saying. "I don't want any other distractions. I don't want to hear from other teams during the season. The only thing I'm focused on now is Oviedo."

and

"Rob Bortles, Blake's father, said the family will not weigh any draft decisions until after the Fiesta Bowl in order to avoid distractions going into the season-ending game."
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Man ... Only if the Texans played in the Fun Fair Positive Pro Football league . :clown:
 
As I suggested, as I predicted, I said don't believe all that media hype, NFL draft boards will disagree with the media about Teddy being the #1 pick......and so it begins:

"On Sunday night on NBC's Football Night in America, Sports Illustrated senior writer Peter King said Bortles is the top quarterback on the board for some NFL teams".

"The fastest rising quarterback in the first round, should he choose to come out, is fourth-year junior Blake Bortles of Central Florida," King said. "I’ve spoken to a team that’s likely to have a top 10 pick, and they like him better than any quarterback in this draft.”

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/spor...ft-buzz-blake-bortles-20131216,0,6542775.post

The tide begins to turn, y'all are not surprised because you were forewarned...stay tuned.
 
Texian said:
As I suggested, as I predicted, I said don't believe all that media hype, NFL draft boards will disagree with the media about Teddy being the #1 pick......and so it begins:
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So 4-5 teams having Bortles, Manziel, or McCarron ranked over Bridgewater means it was all media hype for Teddy. Gotcha.

Btw, I was high on Bortles as far back as last year. I just find your rhetoric concerning Bridgewater/Bortles to be ridiculous.
 
WolverineFan said:
So 4-5 teams having Bortles, Manziel, or McCarron ranked over Bridgewater means it was all media hype for Teddy. Gotcha.

Btw, I was high on Bortles as far back as last year. I just find your rhetoric concerning Bridgewater/Bortles to be ridiculous.
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Hooray for you! Don't be bitter! Try and be nice! Bill Walsh says, believe what your eyes and ears are telling you.
 
Hopefully he'll come out this year. We need as much talent at the top as possible.

"The fastest rising quarterback in the first round, should he choose to come out, is fourth-year junior Blake Bortles of Central Florida," King said. "I’ve spoken to a team that’s likely to have a top 10 pick, and they like him better than any quarterback in this draft.”
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I think we all know King has been talking to Rick Smith, as of late.
 
Wasn't there a discussion about teams not having boards yet? Who was that poster? - he needs to educate Peter King.
 
Texian said:
As I suggested, as I predicted, I said don't believe all that media hype, NFL draft boards will disagree with the media about Teddy being the #1 pick......and so it begins:

"On Sunday night on NBC's Football Night in America, Sports Illustrated senior writer Peter King said Bortles is the top quarterback on the board for some NFL teams".

"The fastest rising quarterback in the first round, should he choose to come out, is fourth-year junior Blake Bortles of Central Florida," King said. "I’ve spoken to a team that’s likely to have a top 10 pick, and they like him better than any quarterback in this draft.”

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/spor...ft-buzz-blake-bortles-20131216,0,6542775.post

The tide begins to turn, y'all are not surprised because you were forewarned...stay tuned.
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Don't throw out your shoulder .
 
Texian said:
As I suggested, as I predicted, I said don't believe all that media hype, NFL draft boards will disagree with the media about Teddy being the #1 pick......and so it begins:

"On Sunday night on NBC's Football Night in America, Sports Illustrated senior writer Peter King said Bortles is the top quarterback on the board for some NFL teams".

"The fastest rising quarterback in the first round, should he choose to come out, is fourth-year junior Blake Bortles of Central Florida," King said. "I’ve spoken to a team that’s likely to have a top 10 pick, and they like him better than any quarterback in this draft.”

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/spor...ft-buzz-blake-bortles-20131216,0,6542775.post

The tide begins to turn, y'all are not surprised because you were forewarned...stay tuned.
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So what exactly was your prediction? That not every board would have Teddy #1?

:clap:
 
Who was the best passer of all time??? In my eyes it was Dan Marino. The closest thing to that in the newer era would probably be Drew Brees or Aaron Rodgers as a pure passer with amazing accuracy and fluidity with the arm to just sling it. However in Marino's era he simply was not the best QB. Joe Montana was and even Elway was better than Marino to me. They both just had a stronger ability to play the QB position. Joe was better than all of them at that time due to his cool mode in the clutch and ability to lead his team.

In this era it has easily been Tom Brady and he's been a slightly better version of Montana accomplishing more other than one more SB ring with much lesser teams. Rodgers and Brees have had a slightly better arm as a pure passer, but that's still debatable.

Who is that next guy of the new generation that isn't a standout the same way that Montana and Brady weren't. God, that's tough to find. It's more like luck to find a guy that's a great passer, but not truly the best, but simply the best technician at the QB position. Maybe Bortles is that guy. Who knows. It is very interesting to see why the interest in him continues to spike.
 
Texecutioner said:
Who was the best passer of all time??? In my eyes it was Dan Marino. The closest thing to that in the newer era would probably be Drew Brees or Aaron Rodgers as a pure passer with amazing accuracy and fluidity with the arm to just sling it. However in Marino's era he simply was not the best QB. Joe Montana was and even Elway was better than Marino to me. They both just had a stronger ability to play the QB position. Joe was better than all of them at that time due to his cool mode in the clutch and ability to lead his team.

In this era it has easily been Tom Brady and he's been a slightly better version of Montana accomplishing more other than one more SB ring with much lesser teams. Rodgers and Brees have had a slightly better arm as a pure passer, but that's still debatable.

Who is that next guy of the new generation that isn't a standout the same way that Montana and Brady weren't. God, that's tough to find. It's more like luck to find a guy that's a great passer, but not truly the best, but simply the best technician at the QB position. Maybe Bortles is that guy. Who knows. It is very interesting to see why the interest in him continues to spike.
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I share many of your thoughts, Walsh drafted Montana because of his ability to win games with the last possession of the game. Belichick expressed similar comments about Brady and why they used a 6th RD draft pick to select him. Bortles 4 GW drives this year has piqued my interest and he has always looked so calm and collected doing so.
 
Man The more I see him. The more I like the idea of the Texans drafting him. He reminds me of Luck.

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Blake said:
In what way does he remind you of Luck?
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He's white and had a Football player (I think maybe QB) father.

Other than that maybe height and build, but as a football player, nothing.

These comparisons are ridiculous. It seems like many are just looking for physical comparisons (skin color, build, body type) to use these comparisons and not actual football playing.

I saw in another thread someone comparing Teddy B to David Garrarrd AND Byron Leftwich... come on people.
 
TexansFTW said:
These comparisons are ridiculous. It seems like many are just looking for physical comparisons (skin color, build, body type) to use these comparisons and not actual football playing.
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I'm guilty of it as well sometimes. Sometimes you're trying to describe to someone how you see a guy physically and so you make that comparison. If someone thinks Bortles looks like Luck physically then that's fine. But I would never compare them like that as prospects. Luck was so much farther ahead in the mental aspect of the game and his ball placement is elite level.

It's the same as the Manziel/Wilson comparisons. Do they look similar physically? Yes. But they play nothing alike and Wilson was so much farther ahead in the game mentally and has a much better arm.
 
The man is clutch. He doesn't have the strongest arm but the ball gets there with good velocity. He has some wheels on him. Football is his life. He's a leader. And he understands what defenses are doing to him and attacks their weakness. A good qb coach would do wonders with this man.

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OK, so Teddy and Blake have all the physical tools. I want to know what their mental make up is. Where is their head at? Are they going to be like PM, Luck, Brees, etc..? Or, are they going to be like Ryan Leaf? Are Teddy and Blake good team players, or are they all about the money and their egos?

The Texans need a QB and I'm good with either Teddy or Blake as long as they do their due diligence. If they screw this up it could set them back a few years.
 
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