Gary Kubiak: Sunday Paper

[The Pencil Neck]

Titans will fire Munchak, we'll hire him and the Titans will hire Kubiak. It'll serve us both right. LOL

That same thought crossed my mind but I didn't want it to gain any weight in reality so I didn't type it or say it out loud.

Thanks, Thorn.

NOW, we're doomed.

 

[Thorn]

That same thought crossed my mind but I didn't want it to gain any weight in reality so I didn't type it or say it out loud.

Thanks, Thorn.

NOW, we're doomed.

If that actually happened, there wouldn't be enough alcohol and drugs on the planet to help Texan and Titan fans.

 

[thunderkyss]

Damn fine man. Part of why I waffled on bashing his performance on the field over the years is because I really wanted him to succeed. I like the man, and I really, really wanted him to win here. Would have been the fairy tale ending, so to speak.

Good luck, Kubiak. Hope the things you learned from this gig serve you well in the future.

I don't like the way some of us "talk" to/about some of our players/coaches. It's the whole internet tough guy thing. I doubt they would talk to/about those people that way if they were face to face with them.

& if they would.... I really don't want to associate with them.

Kubiak/Smith/Marciano/Bush, they all deserved the criticism they got, I'm not saying any different. But they also deserve a little respect.

Some of us could learn a little from Kubiak (granted he does drop the F bomb quite a bit on game day).

 

[The Pencil Neck]

Some of us could learn a little from Kubiak (granted he does drop the F bomb quite a bit on game day).

I drop the F-Bomb quite a bit on game day, too.

I don't think I learned that from him.

 

[Blake]

Kubiak just playing the PR game for his next gig.

You really think that's what his post was about, are we really that cynical that we can't believe he really was vested in trying to get the Texans where we all wanted them to be?

Not sure what you are trying to say here. What does Kubiak wanting to win have to do with caring about you and me? "THE BEST FANS IN THE NFL!!!"

 

[Double Barrel]

I drop the F-Bomb quite a bit on game day, too.

I don't think I learned that from him.

Gary has a potty mouth.

It's actually one of the things that I relate with!

 

[thunderkyss]

I don't think he wanted to fire anyone until the end of the season, but he felt very strongly that he wanted to evaluate Keenum with the remaining time and Kubiak was undercutting that goal. This is one of the few examples I can think of where firing a coach midseason actually accomplishes something.

& here's my problem with that.

It's Gary Kubiak's job to evaluate/develop Case Keenum. Getting benched, again, against Jacksonville, again is probably the catalyst he needs to finally beat a blitz.

It's also possible that Kubiak already knows what McNair is soon to find out.

Secondly.... I agree putting Matt on the field doesn't help us in any way, other than preventing Case from developing too many bad habits. But benching Case was not "the" reason to get upset Thursday. That defense, his boy Wade's defense, was atrocious. Even worse than the stagnant offense. Wade should have been benching people. 2 games less than 3 weeks apart & we surrender 27+ points to a team that averaged 14.4 ppg.

Wade should have been fired. If not for Bum passing away a month ago, he should have been fired back then. Hopefully Kubiak saw the writing on the wall & fell on the sword out of respect for Bum.

Otherwise, McNair's misplaced anger seems a bit knee-jerk(jeerah if you will) to me. Benching Case does not "end" the Keenum era. It's part of developing a young QB. Now, Case doesn't have to worry about pissing Wade off. Wade knows he's out of a job if he benches Case. Somehow Case hasn't won a game, but he's "earned" the starting job even if just for the rest of the season.

That doesn't make sense.

 

[thunderkyss]

I drop the F-Bomb quite a bit on game day, too.

I don't think I learned that from him.

Ha-ha.... my point there, I don't want anyone to get upset with me, or think I'm talking about them because they say things a certain way in the heat of battle. That's understandable.

But we don't need to berate these guys on what's supposed to be a civilized forum.

 

[TexansFight]

And thank the lord for that. Let him drag Schaub, Marciano, and Smith to another franchise and put them above the team. Sorry, but I don't consider that to be "classy" nor do I care about having a classy head coach. You fans that want a nice guy over a winner can save your lectures because many of you have failed to understand that the NFL is a business and Kubiak didn't take his job seriously nor did he respect the entire team by allowing people to keep their jobs all because they were his buddies. In most businesses people call that unprofessional. Many of us have had to listen to you sunshiners make to irrational excuses and spin efforts for Kubiak for 8 years that were mind boggling. You sunshiners have spewed venom at fans who wanted accountability for years now. The chickens have come home to roost.

You took the words out of my mouth. I need to buy you a beer.

 

[Carr Bombed]

Well every includes all of them now doesn't it? Look at an NFL HC being fired and fans are saying either he isn't an NFL HC because he came from college or he is just a coordinator. See Belichick & Carroll.

Bringing up Wade proves the point on the fallacy of your "he will never be given another head coaching job." He got three shots at it and after the 2012 season folks were talking about him getting a fourth. Norv Turner three chances. Schottenheimer four chances.

Isn't that the definition of "every"?

and brining up Wade proves my point as Wade actually has a winning record as a head coach (unlike Kubiak) and even though he had a winning record he wasn't hired to be a head coach at most of his stops.. he back his way into the job after the head coach was fired. So bringing him up PROVES my point. Kubiak has no shot at being hired to HC a outside of being a coordinator for a head coach that gets fired.

 

[Texecutioner]

Isn't that the definition of "every"?

and brining up Wade proves my point as Wade actually has a winning record as a head coach (unlike Kubiak) and even though he had a winning record he wasn't hired to be a head coach at most of his stops.. he back his way into the job after the head coach was fired. So bringing him up PROVES my point. Kubiak has no shot at being hired to HC a outside of being a coordinator for a head coach that gets fired.

I think that people are seriously on something if they actually think that Kubiak is going to get any kind of HC jobs any time soon. Teams and fans around the country have gotten to watch the Texans for years. Hell, I used to frequent the Patriots board, and they never feared the Texans due to Kubiak's style of coaching. Even right now on a Patriots board, a lot of Patriots fans even seemed worried now that Kubiak is gone, because they believe the Texans have a lot of talent and could have a "Chiefs like" turnaround and be a big player in the AFC again. But why would any team offer Kubiak a job when his team that had a great winning streak last season completely withered out of control and it carried onto this season into what a 12 game losing streak to where he had to be fired?? Teams don't hire coaches after that. Not even Al Davis would have been that foolish. Not even the Broncos would have hired Kubiak if Manning and Fox weren't there. Kubiak might get an OC job in a year or two, but I wouldn't expect that in this off season. I highly doubt that Kubiak will ever get another HC job again. Hell, Dom Capers has never gotten another HC job again. I don't think he has ever even been interviewed for one, but I could be mistaken on that.

 

[thunderkyss]

But why would any team offer Kubiak a job when his team that had a great winning streak last season completely withered out of control and it carried onto this season into what a 12 game losing streak to where he had to be fired?? Teams don't hire coaches after that. Not even Al Davis would have been that foolish. Not even the Broncos would have hired Kubiak if Manning and Fox weren't there. Kubiak might get an OC job in a year or two, but I wouldn't expect that in this off season. I highly doubt that Kubiak will ever get another HC job again. Hell, Dom Capers has never gotten another HC job again. I don't think he has ever even been interviewed for one, but I could be mistaken on that.

This was Dom Capers second HC job. So it's not really the same thing.

I still think we are in better shape than Buffalo, Jacksonville, Tennessee, & Cleveland. If I were the owner/gm of those teams I'd interview Kubiak for a HC position, or maybe a Front Office position.

I also think Kubiak will get a job as an OC in 2014, if he wanted.

 

[gafftop]

Great guy. Probably too nice to be a head coach in the NFL these days.

 

[htownfan32]

& here's my problem with that.

It's Gary Kubiak's job to evaluate/develop Case Keenum. Getting benched, again, against Jacksonville, again is probably the catalyst he needs to finally beat a blitz.

It's also possible that Kubiak already knows what McNair is soon to find out.

Secondly.... I agree putting Matt on the field doesn't help us in any way, other than preventing Case from developing too many bad habits. But benching Case was not "the" reason to get upset Thursday. That defense, his boy Wade's defense, was atrocious. Even worse than the stagnant offense. Wade should have been benching people. 2 games less than 3 weeks apart & we surrender 27+ points to a team that averaged 14.4 ppg.

Wade should have been fired. If not for Bum passing away a month ago, he should have been fired back then. Hopefully Kubiak saw the writing on the wall & fell on the sword out of respect for Bum.

Otherwise, McNair's misplaced anger seems a bit knee-jerk(jeerah if you will) to me. Benching Case does not "end" the Keenum era. It's part of developing a young QB. Now, Case doesn't have to worry about pissing Wade off. Wade knows he's out of a job if he benches Case. Somehow Case hasn't won a game, but he's "earned" the starting job even if just for the rest of the season.

That doesn't make sense.

I agree with this post fully. I don't want a Dan Snyder-Redskins type situation here with the coach, the "star QB" (if you can call Keenum that) and the owner all pulling in different directions. McNair may have inadvertently made Keenum untouchable.