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Gary Kubiak: Sunday Paper

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Gary Kubiak is a class act, I know this may be merged but I thought it was worth having a separate thread. There are so many examples of people that have no class in today's society that this is a shining example that deserved a little attention IMHO.

Thanks again Gary for being a man and setting examples of how to handle yourself with adversity comes your way.

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That is class tbf. Shame it didn't work out really but think the franchise is much closer to where we want it to be on the day he got fired than the day he was hired.
 
welsh texan said:
That is class tbf. Shame it didn't work out really but think the franchise is much closer to where we want it to be on the day he got fired than the day he was hired.
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Ditto. I hope he learns from his experiences here and finds success elsewhere. If everyone showed as much class as he does, this would be a much better society.
 
They showed this on espn. Thanks for your hard work Gary. Whatever shortcomings he had as a coach, hardwork and commitment were not an issue.
 
Pantherstang84 said:
Ditto. I hope he learns from his experiences here and finds success elsewhere. If everyone showed as much class as he does, this would be a much better society.
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I think he will. He will probably be like others who have left and shined elsewhere. Texans fans better hope it is not in the AFCS, which honestly I think is a possibility. Titans could possibly be interested in Kubiak.
 
I sort of feel bad now for calling for his head and bashing his abilities.

Kubes is and always was a class act and represented the franchise well. Unfortunately, he just isn't head coach material. I'd welcome him back as an assistant, tho.
 
Nitrofish said:
I think he will. He will probably be like others who have left and shined elsewhere. Texans fans better hope it is not in the AFCS, which honestly I think is a possibility. Titans could possibly be interested in Kubiak.
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Not worried about that happening at all.
 
Rey said:
Not worried about that happening at all.
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I wouldn't even be worried if it did happen.

Very cool of Kubiak to take the Ad out. All I hear is how respectful he is to people. It sucks the way things turned out. It had to be done, though.
 
Damn fine man. Part of why I waffled on bashing his performance on the field over the years is because I really wanted him to succeed. I like the man, and I really, really wanted him to win here. Would have been the fairy tale ending, so to speak.

Good luck, Kubiak. Hope the things you learned from this gig serve you well in the future.
 
Three games left. I wish Bob McNair had the courtesy to just allow him to finish the season. It would have showed some real class on McNair's part to wait until the day after the season. If he wanted to fire somebody so quickly then he should have axed Rick Smith, the main problem, first and foremost.
 
Bulls on Parade said:
Three games left. I wish Bob McNair had the courtesy to just allow him to finish the season. It would have showed some real class on McNair's part to wait until the day after the season. If he wanted to fire somebody so quickly then he should have axed Rick Smith, the main problem, first and foremost.
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I don't think he wanted to fire anyone until the end of the season, but he felt very strongly that he wanted to evaluate Keenum with the remaining time and Kubiak was undercutting that goal. This is one of the few examples I can think of where firing a coach midseason actually accomplishes something.
 
As much as I dislike his abilities as a coach, he sure is a class act, so his departure is bittersweet. He certainly shows some old school gratitude that I don't think you'd see from many head coaches in this league.
 
Bulls on Parade said:
Three games left. I wish Bob McNair had the courtesy to just allow him to finish the season. It would have showed some real class on McNair's part to wait until the day after the season. If he wanted to fire somebody so quickly then he should have axed Rick Smith, the main problem, first and foremost.
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It was a mercy killing. This team was just making everyone look bad. At least when they stink up the next 3 weeks, people won't be looking at Kubiak, who took on the countenance of a whipped dog. Leaving Kubiak in at HC was just doing way too much harm to this team and sent a message to the players that they ARE going to hold people accountable (finally) for their performance.

A change needed to be made for the bigger picture and the mental health of this team. You can sacrifice the team to protect the ego of one HC.
 
So Kubiak is a nice guy, I can go along with that. But he lost the team and it was time for him to go. I'm sure that ad was part sincerity and part leaving on a good note for his next job interview. Not saying that's bad, it's what I'd do.

Good luck Kubes, but not when we face you next.
 
Thorn said:
So Kubiak is a nice guy, I can go along with that. But he lost the team and it was time for him to go. I'm sure that ad was part sincerity and part leaving on a good note for his next job interview. Not saying that's bad, it's what I'd do.

Good luck Kubes, but not when we face you next.
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I don't think he lost the team. I think losing teams get frustrated. There is a difference.
 
Its on me coach. I will work to get it corrected, you battled hard kid.



The guy will be fine. Im not sad to see him go at all. Its a tough business, but he will find a job as OC somewhere......adios coach, don't let the door hit you on the way out.
 
Capers was also a pretty classy guy, both men basically the antithesis of former Oilers HC Jerry Glanville. I'm all for getting a pric! like Belichik or Carrol if they can have that kind of success.
 
Nitrofish said:
I think he will. He will probably be like others who have left and shined elsewhere. Texans fans better hope it is not in the AFCS, which honestly I think is a possibility. Titans could possibly be interested in Kubiak.
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:user: That would be the best thing that ever happened to this division.
 
Kubiak was a great guy despite all his short comings he was one of my fav people ever in the texans organization. Nooone expected this season to be this bad, and i think his loyality to his players is what ultimately cost him. good luck kubes
 
It was a sad day for me when Gary was fired.

I like him as a person, and had such high hopes for our success under the Houston native.

I have no doubt he will succeed wherever he lands and wish him nothing but the best.
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eriadoc said:
I don't think he wanted to fire anyone until the end of the season, but he felt very strongly that he wanted to evaluate Keenum with the remaining time and Kubiak was undercutting that goal. This is one of the few examples I can think of where firing a coach midseason actually accomplishes something.
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Yep. McNair wanted to take a hard look at the QB situation to see what moves need to be made in the offseason. Kubiak kept getting in the way of that. He had to go - now.

Kubiak is the real deal as a person. I wish him the best of luck, but, I feel no guilt about criticizing his coaching. This is business.
 
Marcus said:
Jeez Louise Tex. Did the guy piss in your cornflakes or something? He's gone already.
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And thank the lord for that. Let him drag Schaub, Marciano, and Smith to another franchise and put them above the team. Sorry, but I don't consider that to be "classy" nor do I care about having a classy head coach. You fans that want a nice guy over a winner can save your lectures because many of you have failed to understand that the NFL is a business and Kubiak didn't take his job seriously nor did he respect the entire team by allowing people to keep their jobs all because they were his buddies. In most businesses people call that unprofessional. Many of us have had to listen to you sunshiners make to irrational excuses and spin efforts for Kubiak for 8 years that were mind boggling. You sunshiners have spewed venom at fans who wanted accountability for years now. The chickens have come home to roost.
 
I thought he should have been fired in 2010 . He wasn't and that's not his fault . He has been fired and probably as much for his loyalty as anything . Sometimes your greatest strength becomes your greatest weakness . Loyalty is an admired trait just not always in pro sports .


Best wishes coach and hope you get well . :clap:
 
Even after I finally decided I wanted him gone, I didn't bash him much, and this is a whole lot of why. He wanted to be in Houston, he wanted to coach this team, and he interviewed for it twice, getting turned down the first time. Now he even has the grace to leave while praising the boss & organization that just fired him and the players that had a lot to do with it. :clap:

I couldn't even do that. I would keep my mouth shut publicly, but I'd make excuses in private (I'm thinking about to his wife, but I'm not married). No way I'd have this kind of grace about it. He doesn't seem to have what this team needs right now, but....I could learn a thing or too... :boogereater:
 
I've always said that I'm grateful to Kubiak for turning the Texans into a legitimate NFL franchise. He's a good guy and I wish him and his family the best.
 
How many on this thread who were busy bashing Kubiak just a short time ago are now fawning over his demonstrative spirit of goodwill and gratitude immediately after he was being fired by the owner, the citys media, and the teams fans ?
 
eriadoc said:
Kubiak showed what class is, and a couple posters in this thread showed what classless is.
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Agreed, this is just a damn game. I dont like to see anyone lose their job. Dont get me wrong, it was his time to go. But even now that he's gone some people cant just wish him luck and move on.

Kubiak def was not the best head coach, he was not even close, With all the talent we have had the past 3 seasons we should of went to the SB. BUT the guy worked hard as anybody, and although he failed, atleast he gave us 100%. More than i can say for some people.
 
Gary, you're a great man.

Thanks for the yrs you put in. You left things better than you found them. Best of luck in the future.

Hopefully BoB upgrades the HC position. I want a win at all costs type HC. That's what has been missing from the Texans org. This type of HC isn't a nice guy usually, but will shake things up and hold everybody in the org accountable.
 
IDEXAN said:
How many on this thread who were busy bashing Kubiak just a short time ago are now fawning over his demonstrative spirit of goodwill and gratitude immediately after he was being fired by the owner, the citys media, and the teams fans ?
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Most have enough sense to not kick someone when he's down ... most .
 
houstonspartan said:
Yep. McNair wanted to take a hard look at the QB situation to see what moves need to be made in the offseason. Kubiak kept getting in the way of that. He had to go - now.

Kubiak is the real deal as a person. I wish him the best of luck, but, I feel no guilt about criticizing his coaching. This is business.
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What would be funny is if Wade Phillips decides to bench Case Keenum after he struggles at Indianapolis next Sunday. And we see Matt Schaub right back in the game. Then what? Will he be fired after the game also? It's not like anybody is expecting him to return next season. I'd probably have the audacity to do that very thing if I were in his shoes. Just to show my displeasure with Bob McNair and Rick Smith. LOL
 
IDEXAN said:
How many on this thread who were busy bashing Kubiak just a short time ago are now fawning over his demonstrative spirit of goodwill and gratitude immediately after he was being fired by the owner, the citys media, and the teams fans ?
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Just cause i did not think he was a good head coach dont mean i dont like kubiak as a person. He is a great guy, and i wish him the best in whatever he does. Nothing wrong with liking someone as a person even if you dont like the work they do.
 
IDEXAN said:
How many on this thread who were busy bashing Kubiak just a short time ago are now fawning over his demonstrative spirit of goodwill and gratitude immediately after he was being fired by the owner, the citys media, and the teams fans ?
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Nice try. A person's job performance is separate from the person. In my career, I've met many people that I liked personally but they were incompetent at their job. Yes I called for him to get fired not this only this year but after the 6-10 season as well. However, I like Gary Kubiak the person. He is a good man with what I think is very strong ethics. I like the man and would buy him a beer if given the opportunity. It just didn't work out here for him and business is business. No one is contradicting themselves here. It's just those who wish him harm either physically or professional can't seem to separate their emotions from a game. Sad.
 
IDEXAN said:
How many on this thread who were busy bashing Kubiak just a short time ago are now fawning over his demonstrative spirit of goodwill and gratitude immediately after he was being fired by the owner, the citys media, and the teams fans ?
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Thank you! The majority of this thread and the other thread are complete hypocrites. Lol! Look at the insults all season long towards Kubiak and even go back to a few years ago when they went 6-10 and he was supposed to be fired. So many fickle fans that have no idea what they want in a HC until after each game is over and then they're either praising the guy or bashing the guy the next week once they have some hind sight. Just read the game day threads.

Ben Tate was dead on when he talked about how wishy washy and fickle Houston fans in this city are. He was just foolish in the context of how he described it. Not everyone of course, but the examples have been all over this board and talk radio for years. I get bashed and criticized for having a decisive and outspoken opinion which is fine and I'll take it, but I've stayed consistent unlike the majority that can't ever make up their mind. It really exposes how much people don't understand about what they think a leader is supposed to be. I'll give Kubiak the respect of leaving gracefully, but hell what choice did he have? He took a team that was a SB contending team and ran it straight into the ground and refused to ever let go of Schaub no matter the circumstances. Man, I could pull threads all season and point out all types of examples of flip flopping stances that took place literally every week. The finger pointing here is comical. Rep is spread big time.
 
Pantherstang84 said:
Nice try. A person's job performance is separate from the person. In my career, I've met many people that I liked personally but they were incompetent at their job. Yes I called for him to get fired not this only this year but after the 6-10 season as well. However, I like Gary Kubiak the person. He is a good man with what I think is very strong ethics. I like the man and would buy him a beer if given the opportunity. It just didn't work out here for him and business is business. No one is contradicting themselves here. It's just those who wish him harm either physically or professional can't seem to separate their emotions from a game. Sad.
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So you know the guy personally? You went to college with him or something? Spare me with this. Lol! That is the same crap people always say about famous celebs until they hear about them cheating or some other scandal they don't like. The fact is all you know about Kubiak is what you see and hear through the media. For years people enshrined Tiger Woods as the greatest man to walk this planet until they found out how many women he had stashed away and once again the hypocrisy showed it's ugly head when people found out that Tiger wasn't who they "assumed" he was simply because he could drive the ball 400 yards and spoke in a nice soft tone. Kubiak probably is what you describe I'd guess, but that has nothing to do with his job performance, and I haven't seen one thread that was centered around Kubiak's personality outside of football so it's really a moot point.
 
IDEXAN said:
How many on this thread who were busy bashing Kubiak just a short time ago are now fawning over his demonstrative spirit of goodwill and gratitude immediately after he was being fired by the owner, the citys media, and the teams fans ?
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What does giving him props for being a class act as a person have to do with bashing him as a coach?
 
Texecutioner said:
Thank you! The majority of this thread and the other thread are complete hypocrites. Lol! Look at the insults all season long towards Kubiak and even go back to a few years ago when they went 6-10 and he was supposed to be fired. So many fickle fans that have no idea what they want in a HC until after each game is over and then they're either praising the guy or bashing the guy the next week once they have some hind sight. Just read the game day threads.

Ben Tate was dead on when he talked about how wishy washy and fickle Houston fans in this city are. He was just foolish in the context of how he described it. Not everyone of course, but the examples have been all over this board and talk radio for years. I get bashed and criticized for having a decisive and outspoken opinion which is fine and I'll take it, but I've stayed consistent unlike the majority that can't ever make up their mind. It really exposes how much people don't understand about what they think a leader is supposed to be. I'll give Kubiak the respect of leaving gracefully, but hell what choice did he have? He took a team that was a SB contending team and ran it straight into the ground and refused to ever let go of Schaub no matter the circumstances. Man, I could pull threads all season and point out all types of examples of flip flopping stances that took place literally every week. The finger pointing here is comical.
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Job performance and the person outside of work are two different things. I have had friends of mine that i liked a lot outside of work that i have had to fire. Great guys, just not great at their job. Being bad at 1 dont mean your bad at the other. We all bashed Kubiak as a coach, and all the choices he made for the team. I dont recall anyone bashing him as a person, only as a coach.
 
EllisUnit said:
Job performance and the person outside of work are two different things. I have had friends of mine that i liked a lot outside of work that i have had to fire. Great guys, just not great at their job. Being bad at 1 dont mean your bad at the other. We all bashed Kubiak as a coach, and all the choices he made for the team. I dont recall anyone bashing him as a person, only as a coach.
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Yes you are correct. Great post. I haven't ever bashed him as a person myself, because I don't' know him. It's extremely naive for people to act like they know someone in the public eye based on how they speak in interviews.
 
Texecutioner said:
Thank you! The majority of this thread and the other thread are complete hypocrites. Lol! Look at the insults all season long towards Kubiak and even go back to a few years ago when they went 6-10 and he was supposed to be fired. So many fickle fans that have no idea what they want in a HC until after each game is over and then they're either praising the guy or bashing the guy the next week once they have some hind sight. Just read the game day threads.

Ben Tate was dead on when he talked about how wishy washy and fickle Houston fans in this city are. He was just foolish in the context of how he described it. Not everyone of course, but the examples have been all over this board and talk radio for years. I get bashed and criticized for having a decisive and outspoken opinion which is fine and I'll take it, but I've stayed consistent unlike the majority that can't ever make up their mind. It really exposes how much people don't understand about what they think a leader is supposed to be. I'll give Kubiak the respect of leaving gracefully, but hell what choice did he have? He took a team that was a SB contending team and ran it straight into the ground and refused to ever let go of Schaub no matter the circumstances. Man, I could pull threads all season and point out all types of examples of flip flopping stances that took place literally every week. The finger pointing here is comical. Rep is spread big time.
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Tex, we usually agree, but, on this, I don't see separating the person from the coach as being hypocritical. For years, I have said the following about Kubiak: I would give him the keys to my house and access to my bank account, but I do not want him coaching my sports team. The guy is clearly a good dude, but he is a horrible coach. What's so hypocritical about that?

A buddy met Kubiak once, and said he was blown away by what a cool guy he was. The buddy then said, "But, I still want him fired."

That's not being a hypocrite, in my opinion.
 
JB said:
What does giving him props for being a class act as a person have to do with bashing him as a coach?
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My thoughts as well. We still bash Capers. Kubiak was a fair to middlin' coach, and that was all the Texans would have been under him. Yeah, he was a classy guy, Bob McNair's type of guy. And I don't mind classy as opposed to some of the asswipes we had coaching the Oilers.

I'm not sure where the controversy is here, but whatever. The real battles in our little internet home here will be when they announce the new head coach anyway. :lol:
 
houstonspartan said:
Tex, we usually agree, but, on this, I don't see separating the person from the coach as being hypocritical. For years, I have said the following about Kubiak: I would give him the keys to my house and access to my bank account, but I do not want him coaching my sports team. The guy is clearly a good dude, but he is a horrible coach. What's so hypocritical about that?

A buddy met Kubiak once, and said he was blown away by what a cool guy he was. The buddy then said, "But, I still want him fired."

That's not being a hypocrite, in my opinion.
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Agree to disagree my friend. :)

I know you're not being serious by saying you would give him access to your bank account and you are trying to make a point, but we don't "truly" know who anyone is just because of the perception they give in front of the camera. My guess would be that Kubiak is probably a very nice guy outside of his job. I would agree with the speculation, but speculation is all that really is. It's a moot point at the end of the day though. This is a Texans board that is centered around the team, not the personal life of Gary Kubiak. I make no apologies about the fact that I wanted Gary tossed out of here as fast as possible, because his coaching decisions deserved for him to be treated that way. When people come in here on their high horse and act it's some sort of lack of class to want that when they were just insulting the guy and calling him all kinds of names and wanting him fired just a week ago, it's extremely hypocritical. Especially from the ones that have said that many times in the past, then called him some offensive genius, but then turned around and called him horrible names again and again and repeat that same cycle. I understand your point though.
 
Thorn said:
My thoughts as well. We still bash Capers. Kubiak was a fair to middlin' coach, and that was all the Texans would have been under him. Yeah, he was a classy guy, Bob McNair's type of guy. And I don't mind classy as opposed to some of the asswipes we had coaching the Oilers.

I'm not sure where the controversy is here, but whatever. The real battles in our little internet home here will be when they announce the new head coach anyway. :lol:
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Yeah, Capers gets bashed here all of the time and he never got the 8 years that Kubiak got and hell he had to work with Carr and no O line. Capers wasn't given 3 DC's and anywhere near the slack that Kubiak had, but yet people have no problem poking fun at Capers. :chicken dance:

I haven't seen anyone wish Gary any ill will. I've stated that I don't think he should get another job in the NFL, because he doesn't deserve one. That isn't wishing him ill will. That is being fair as far as what I think he has earned or hasn't.
 
Pantherstang84 said:
Nice try. A person's job performance is separate from the person. In my career, I've met many people that I liked personally but they were incompetent at their job. Yes I called for him to get fired not this only this year but after the 6-10 season as well. However, I like Gary Kubiak the person. He is a good man with what I think is very strong ethics. I like the man and would buy him a beer if given the opportunity. It just didn't work out here for him and business is business. No one is contradicting themselves here. It's just those who wish him harm either physically or professional can't seem to separate their emotions from a game. Sad.
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Objective criticism is one thing, and I'd be the first to agree that Kubiak certainly deserved tons of that for this season. But what I'm talking about is vitriolic comments, just plain mean spirited bashing of a beleaguered HC fighting for his professional existence. But Kubiak never quit trying to succeed and never quit being classy.
 
IDEXAN said:
Objective criticism is one thing, and I'd be the first to agree that Kubiak certainly deserved tons of that for this season. But what I'm talking about is vitriolic comments, just plain mean spirited bashing of a beleaguered HC fighting for his professional existence. But Kubiak never quit trying to succeed and never quit being classy.
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Rest assure Kubiak will have a job in the NFL somewhere next season. Although he wasnt the best head coach he will still be involved with a team next season via H.C, O.C, something.
 
Firing Kubiak had to be done and I'm happy about the future prospects. I do feel bad for coach Kubiak. I always want good houstonians to succeed. I hope his health gets better and wish him well. I hated some of his decisions but he's not a dirtbag like bobby Petronio or paterno. I think he's a good man.
 
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