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Mariota

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Nov 29th playing Oregon State and at half time has thrown for 107 yds 6/10 10.7 and two INTS no TDs. 17-17. Looking pretty rough so far.
 
very negative game for his draft stock suggesting it would be in his best interest to return for his Junior season, seek a national championship & earn his degree!

on the flip side there is some outstanding talent on display. Oregon CB, Ifo Ekpre-Olomu is the closest corner to Darrel Revis I've seen in awhile. Disruptive, excellent & physical tackler, playmaker, plus closing speed & position. I think he could crack the top 10.

Oregon State WR Brandon Crooks is amazing slot receiver with all the tools. Strength for size, speed & quickness with a suddenness to separate, a poor mans Tavon Austin. Love that OSU RB Terron Ward, looks like Ray Rice, 5070 205 balance, power, heart. Was wondering if related to Derek Ward but not his brother did play @ Oregon & now safety with Cleveland Browns.

Also should mention local talent, WR Josh Huff could push Posey for 3rd WR on Texan roster & of course DeAnthony Thomas, super elite returner & change of pace RB.
 
It's almost like teams are starting to figure Mariota out, which doesn't bode well for the NFL. The NFL figures you out much more quickly.
 
Seems like a few highly thought of college QBs need to go back into the oven for more cooking before coming out to the pros. They likely won't, but...
 
Playoffs said:
Seems like a few highly thought of college QBs need to go back into the oven for more cooking before coming out to the pros. They likely won't, but...
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Contrary to popular belief they do. Their NFL evaluation is usually the determining factor. Without 30 college starts or more it's commonly a 3rd rd grade or later.
 
Playoffs said:
Seems like a few highly thought of college QBs need to go back into the oven for more cooking before coming out to the pros. They likely won't, but...
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Many of them need to. Guys like Mariota, Hundley, and Manziel are not ready and need more seasoning. However, because of the desperate need for QB's in the league they are getting 1st round grades and that's why they might declare.

Bridgewater is the only non-senior QB who I think has nothing to gain by going back for another year.
 
WolverineFan said:
Many of them need to. Guys like Mariota, Hundley, and Manziel are not ready and need more seasoning. However, because of the desperate need for QB's in the league they are getting 1st round grades and that's why they might declare.

Bridgewater is the only non-senior QB who I think has nothing to gain by going back for another year.
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Bridgewater, not a fan of his. He played pretty average at best in a game I watched the Houston Cougars barely lose 20-13 at Louisville a few weeks back. I don't recall the Cougars ever being known for their defense either.
 
WolverineFan said:
Many of them need to. Guys like Mariota, Hundley, and Manziel are not ready and need more seasoning. However, because of the desperate need for QB's in the league they are getting 1st round grades and that's why they might declare.

Bridgewater is the only non-senior QB who I think has nothing to gain by going back for another year.
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They may be getting 1st rd draft grades from media but not necessarily from the NFL. Especially if they have less than 30 college starts.

Only (3) red shirt Sophomore have declared for the draft, Michael Vick, Tommy Maddox and Todd Marinovich.
 
Texian said:
They may be getting 1st rd draft grades from media but not necessarily from the NFL. Especially if they have less than 30 college starts.

Only (3) red shirt Sophomore have declared for the draft, Michael Vick, Tommy Maddox and Todd Marinovich.
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Yikes. That worked out well.
 
Mariota is staying in school, which probably makes Carr the top quarterback prospect after Bridgewater, who will probably go with the #1 pick.
 
Spled said:
Mariota is staying in school, which probably makes Carr the top quarterback prospect after Bridgewater, who will probably go with the #1 pick.
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Hopefully, Bridge goes #1 to Cleveland after a gigantic trade to Houston.
 
Mariota is is in a very similar position that Barkley was two years ago. The mere fact of him returning school already has the media making him better than he is. This is true of most media hyped QBs who return to school.
 
Texian said:
Mariota is is in a very similar position that Barkley was two years ago. The mere fact of him returning school already has the media making him better than he is. This is true of most media hyped QBs who return to school.
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In fairness, Mariota has played very well this year but wasn't spotless; there were concerns about Barkley's arm strength that another year in school wouldn't fix. The same can't be said for Mariota.
 
bhsman said:
In fairness, Mariota has played very well this year but wasn't spotless; there were concerns about Barkley's arm strength that another year in school wouldn't fix. The same can't be said for Mariota.
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The issue I have with Mariota is that he has zero experience playing under center, but that can be said for a good majority of the QBs coming out.
 
bhsman said:
In fairness, Mariota has played very well this year but wasn't spotless; there were concerns about Barkley's arm strength that another year in school wouldn't fix. The same can't be said for Mariota.
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How quickly we forget, Barkley was a sure fire first rd pick according to the media if he had come out his Jr. year, just like Lienart. Them boys got the same hype Mariota is getting now. Them boys then had a higher ceiling than Mariota. The media has a tendency to sensationalize, it makes for a better read and an easier sell.
 
Texian said:
How quickly we forget, Barkley was a sure fire first rd pick according to the media if he had come out his Jr. year, just like Lienart. Them boys got the same hype Mariota is getting now. Them boys then had a higher ceiling than Mariota. The media has a tendency to sensationalize, it makes for a better read and an easier sell.
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Gotta agree with this. Media was basically reporting that Barkley was turning down the #1 overall pick for another year in college. I liked him coming out but he was never that good.

Mariota is very overrated right now. He has had a ton of success in college so far but he has had to make very few tough throws. He has made plenty of plays from inside the pocket, but his ability to run scares defenses into playing him differently than he would see in the pros. Hopefully he gets some more experience reading and throwing against real coverages next year.
 
http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsport...n-qb-marcus-mariota-requests-nfl-draft-grade/

Oregon quarterback Marcus Mariota has requested that his draft stock be evaluated by the NFL despite his announcement on Dec. 3 that he would return to play for the Ducks in 2014, according to a report from NFLDraftScout.com.

The request doesn’t affect Mariota’s eligibility and he is under no obligation to follow its recommendations.

Oregon associate athletic director Craig Pintens said via Twitter that Mariota made the request following the Ducks’ final game against Oregon State, but that Mariota’s decision to return will stand regardless of what the evaluation shows....
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Smart move. I think he sees the QB class coming off weak. If he declares I think he is a 1st round QB.
 
Lance Z mentioned it this morning. He feels Mariota would be first QB taken, ahead of Bridgewater.
 
Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes!

This is the kid that the Texans need. He is big, fast and has a cannon for an arm HOWEVA he cannot be allowed to wear #8...

He is a 6'4 Manziel with a better arm.

Man I hope this happens
 
OzzO said:
Lance Z mentioned it this morning. He feels Mariota would be first QB taken, ahead of Bridgewater.
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BullNation4Life said:
Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes!

This is the kid that the Texans need. He is big, fast and has a cannon for an arm...

He is a 6'4 Manziel with a better arm.

Man I hope this happens
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I mentioned wanting Mariota potentially ahead of Bridgewater here. But since then I feel that Teddy is more Pro ready. He has better vision and can read the entire field well. Not just making one read and throw.

For the Texans at 1-1, Bridgewater is my 1, and Mariota is my 1A.
 
Could be he just wants to know where he stands and what NFL thinks he needs to work on. That's understandable. Very doubtful that if he doesn't have 30 college starts that he will get a first round grade. IMHO he hasn't done anything on the football field that says 1st pick or high first rd pick.
 
Texian said:
Could be he just wants to know where he stands and what NFL thinks he needs to work on. That's understand. Very doubtful that if he doesn't have 30 college starts that he will get a first round grade. IMHO he hasn't done anything on the football field that says 1st pick or high first rd pick.
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Geez I'm agreeing with Texian...

Mariota is not ready. If you draft him he sits for a year minimum, no questions asked. That's a tough sell for most GMs these days. If you throw him out there too early you risk ruining him.

I like his size, arm, and mobility. His accuracy is okay. My big thing is that the offense he plays in makes him tough to project. Over half his throws are to wide open receivers. He is basically a HS QB as far as the mental part of the game goes.

The mental side of playing QB is the most underrated attribute for the position. All people want to look at is size, arm strength, and athleticism. All things that Mariota has btw.
 
I like the guy a lot, but I'm sorry. I do NOT want him to be a Texan.

Oregon has had a 50 point / game offense for a while and all these dudes look sick in college, but on the OFFENSIVE side of the ball who is their big name player in the NFL?

LaGarrette Blount, Kellen Clemens, Ed Dickson?

He's faced 2 middle of the road PAC-12 teams in the last 2 weeks of the season and has looked pedestrian at best. I know he said he's "hurt" or whatever, but give me a break. The NFL isn't easy, everyone is playing "hurt" and only a handful of guys mention it to reporters after the loss to use as a crutch.

Sorry Mariota, but beat it.
 
bah007 said:
Geez I'm agreeing with Texian...

Mariota is not ready. If you draft him he sits for a year minimum, no questions asked. That's a tough sell for most GMs these days. If you throw him out there too early you risk ruining him.

I like his size, arm, and mobility. His accuracy is okay. My big thing is that the offense he plays in makes him tough to project. Over half his throws are to wide open receivers. He is basically a HS QB as far as the mental part of the game goes.

The mental side of playing QB is the most underrated attribute for the position. All people want to look at is size, arm strength, and athleticism. All things that Mariota has btw.
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I agree too. Mariota would only be selected IMO if he could sit for 1 FULL year. Not just 2-3 games. And with McNairs comments about winning now, I think he would want a mentally ready QB if he took a QB at all.

To win now I could see a plan of signing a free agent QB who would almost be plug and play, then selecting a instant impact defender where transition isnt as tough.
 
Might Marcus Mariota change his mind?

On Dec. 3, QB Marcus Mariota released a statement that he intended to return to Oregon for the 2014 campaign, rather than join the NFL draft. However, he reportedly requested an NFL grade prior to that announcement but released the statement before learning his grade. The key here is that no binding decision has been made at this time.

"Regardless of the actual date Mariota requested his grade from the committee, what has become increasingly clear is that he made his statement without actually learning of his grade. Once he receives the grade -- expected to be a top 15 designation -- Mariota may have a harder time turning down the lure of an NFL paycheck," wrote Rob Rang of The Sports Xchange.

"Requesting his grade certainly does not mean that Mariota has changed his mind and will declare early for the 2014 NFL Draft. Many players check with the NFL's free evaluative service simply to get a better grasp on their prospects for the future and fully plan on returning for another year of collegiate action."

By many accounts, Mariota could be the top quarterback taken in the draft, depending on how he might perform during the NFL Combine and Oregon's pro day. When ESPN NFL Insider Mel Kiper Jr. recently released his top options at each position, he ranked Mariota behind only Louisville's Teddy Bridgewater among non-senior QB prospects.

"Mariota has said he'll return to Oregon, but he remains here until he's no longer allowed to change his mind," Kiper wrote.

The deadline for underclassmen to declare for the draft is January 15.
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After stating plans to return, Marcus Mariota requested NFL grade

After releasing a statement Dec. 3 of his intentions to return to Oregon, the NFL Advisory Committee has since received Mariota's request for an evaluation, NFLDraftScout.com has confirmed.

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According to Craig Pintens, Oregon's senior associate athletic director, Mariota requested his grade "the day after the Civil War." When asked today by Portland Sports Radio station 750 The Game if his plans had changed, Mariota said, "To clear any confusion, I'm very blessed and thankful to come back."

Regardless of the actual date Mariota requested his grade from the committee, what has become increasingly clear is that he made his statement without actually learning of his grade. Once he receives the grade -- expected to be a top 15 designation -- Mariota may have a harder time turning down the lure of an NFL paycheck.

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It isn't difficult to understand why Mariota may want to consider leaving now. The strong-armed, highly athletic passer boasts a more exciting skill-set than any other quarterback potentially available in 2014, including Louisville's Teddy Bridgewater, NFLDraftScout.com's top-rated quarterback at this time.

"Why wouldn't he want to look into [coming out this year]?" one high ranking NFL source said on the condition on anonymity. "[Mariota] could be the first quarterback drafted this year. That may not happen next year."

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Mariota passed for 3,412 yards and 30 touchdowns against just four interceptions in 2013. He also rushed for 582 yards and nine scores. Mariota didn't play as well down the stretch (four interceptions in last two games) after suffering an injury to his left knee against UCLA but ended the Ducks' regular season in fine form by guiding them to an impressive comeback over rival Oregon State in the Civil War.

Regardless of prior announcements made, underclassmen officially have until Jan. 15 to request early admission into the NFL draft.
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I am a big Mariota fan and if he enters it makes the Texans' decision at #1 a tough one.
 
He plays tonight in San Antonio against our beloved Texas Longhorns, doubt he approaches performance of Teddy in his bowl game but that is why they play the game. That said, I believe he returns to Oregon for his Junior season.

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Trap_Star said:
That article is from over a week ago and he's already reiterated that's he's staying since.
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Yep! From the same website as the OP linked to:

12/19/2013 - Mariota confirms he will return to Oregon...Oregon Ducks quarterback Marcus Mariota confirmed he intends to return to the team for at least one more season after it was learned he had requested his grade from the NFL Advisory Committee. Oregon's senior associate athletic director, Craig Pintens, said Mariota requested the grade following the Ducks' victory over Oregon State on Nov. 29. Mariota told 750 The Game radio in Portland, "To clear any confusion, I'm very blessed and thankful to come back."
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He has tools. But he is not nearly as NFL ready as Bridgewater or Mettenberger. I would have him rated as the #3 QB in this draft.
 
He'll probably stay in school, but Mariota entering the draft would make me heavily lean towards the Clowney->Mettenberger draft plan due to more QBs being available before Zach.
 
Watching his bowl game right now. God this kid is fast! I don't Luke his delivery speed and how he would rather just take off and run if his first and second option isn't there. Not as fluid in the pocket as Teddy B IMO.
 
his physical tools are great but he's a total project. doesn't take snaps under center and doesn't run a pro run or pass offense.
 
bah007 said:
He has tools. But he is not nearly as NFL ready as Bridgewater or Mettenberger. I would have him rated as the #3 QB in this draft.
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You know who else was NFL ready? Kareem Jackson. I know, makes no difference now, but every time I hear that phrase, I cringe.

As for the topic at hand, if you're going to spend a #1 overall pick on a QB, I want the guy who has the tools to be a superstar (especially upstairs). I don't see that in Bridgewater. I mean, he's a nice QB, but I just don't see superstar in his future. I, like anyone else here, could be wrong, of course. But I'd rather have Mariota.

Bridgewater would be the 4th or 5th best QB in next year's draft.
 
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