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Former University of Houston QB Case Keenum agrees to a contract with the Texans

The Pencil Neck said:
For me, the Steelers teams were so dominating from a defensive and running standpoint that they were able to overcome and make up for Bradshaw's deficiencies.

Like you said, he was a gunslinger. I don't like that type of QB. I find it a selfish and self-destructive style. I don't particularly like Favre as a QB, either, but I have to admit he's put up some gaudy numbers. If I were putting a team together, I wouldn't want a Bradshaw, a Favre, or a Roethlisburger. I just don't like the approach.
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Totally agreed on the italicized. To keep the comparison fair, Staubach and Bradshaw started one year apart. Staubach who was known for ad-libbing plays was much more accurate, threw way less INT's, and was just an across the board better QB. Heck he was even a better runner. But the Steelers won the games.
 
infantrycak said:
Totally agreed on the italicized. To keep the comparison fair, Staubach and Bradshaw started one year apart. Staubach who was known for ad-libbing plays was much more accurate, threw way less INT's, and was just an across the board better QB. Heck he was even a better runner. But the Steelers won the games.
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Did you know when you quote someone, the whole post is italicized?
 
Texan_Bill said:
Really?? The "Olden Days"??

Hey ****ers, it's you people that brought us into the world of young hipsters AND us into you're terrible "times"...

Wait, WHAT??? Scooby Doo rocked!!! Yosemite Sam? Bugs??? Mid-South Wrasslin' (Paul Bosch) EVERY Saturday morning was the bomb!!!

That ****e was GOOD Saturday morning TV!!
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Have you seen today's Looney Tunes? They're so PC it's sickening. No more Bugs or Elmer Fudd in drag. No more gratutitus (sp?) from the Tazmanian Devil. No more Elmer blowing the beak off of Daffy. Hell, I'm surprised they haven't put pants on Porky Pig yet.

Sorry for going tangential there.

I'm back now.

For the record, in my perfect scenario, Case does a couple of years as Schaub's apprentice then takes over the reins and leads the Texans into the playoffs (while helping A.J. build up mega post season receiving stats in the process) and to a SB championship or three.
 
ObsiWan said:
For the record, in my perfect scenario, Case does a couple of years as Schaub's apprentice then takes over the reins and leads the Texans into the playoffs (while helping A.J. build up mega post season receiving stats in the process) and to a SB championship or three.
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I see Case as a more likely replacement for Schaub than TJ. AJ is totally health dependent. IF AJ, Foster, and Schaub stay healthy together the league needs to be scared.
 
infantrycak said:
I see Case as a more likely replacement for Schaub than TJ. AJ is totally health dependent. IF AJ, Foster, and Schaub stay healthy together the league needs to be scared.
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No way dude. As much as I really like Case and hope he has a phenomenal NFL career, I just don't see this. TJ is going to have to screw up in a huge way before that happens, and quite frankly, I really don't want to see that.
 
Vinnie said:
No way dude. As much as I really like Case and hope he has a phenomenal NFL career, I just don't see this. TJ is going to have to screw up in a huge way before that happens, and quite frankly, I really don't want to see that.
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All is to be seen. But my vote goes with Cak and ObsiWan to Case. Even in college, TJ had at best what could be considered an up and down career with one decent year. The profiles I read of him tended to fit him more in a backup career. While I see TJ as someone who could probably "hold down the fort" for a while, I see Case as someone who would be more likely to make things "happen."
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
All is to be seen. But my vote goes with Cak and ObsiWan to Case. Even in college, TJ had at best what could be considered an up and down career with one decent year. The profiles I read of him tended to fit him more in a backup career. While I see TJ as someone who could probably "hold down the fort" for a while, I see Case as someone who would be more likely to make things "happen."
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"making things happen" is not always a good thing when those can be negative as well, which was my opinion of TJ while @ Carolina now with Houston. Seems I'm in the minority around here concerning Yates future being a bit more rosey.

He is a bit of a gunslinger, but that never stopped Farve or his detractors early on at least.

Yates has a quick release that is natural & fluid.

He has size & ability to elude the rush.

He also has a solid base of playing in this system which will only improve his chances for success.

Case has a longer road & more obstacles ahead to overcome.

Must learn a whole new system.

Has to overcome his size disadvantage & borderline measureables.

Injury history, with lack of arm strength.

Throwing motion is a bit low as well not over the top, usually on the run. I'm just not sure this is the best fit system for him?

Love both kids, great character & leadership skills.

I'm projecting Yates will be the starter next year & Case will effort his way into the back-up role. We'll see :vincepalm:
 
beerlover said:
"making things happen" is not always a good thing when those can be negative as well, which was my opinion of TJ while @ Carolina now with Houston. Seems I'm in the minority around here concerning Yates future being a bit more rosey.

He is a bit of a gunslinger, but that never stopped Farve or his detractors early on at least.

Yates has a quick release that is natural & fluid.

He has size & ability to elude the rush.

He also has a solid base of playing in this system which will only improve his chances for success.

Case has a longer road & more obstacles ahead to overcome.

Must learn a whole new system.

Has to overcome his size disadvantage & borderline measureables.

Injury history, with lack of arm strength.

Throwing motion is a bit low as well not over the top, usually on the run. I'm just not sure this is the best fit system for him?

Love both kids, great character & leadership skills.

I'm projecting Yates will be the starter next year & Case will effort his way into the back-up role. We'll see :vincepalm:
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Sounds a lot like the knocks Case has been hearing his whole football life. He's proved "them" wrong before. I'm pulling for him to prove "them" wrong again.

And it's been my experience that guys who have to prove the pundits wrong go the extra mile to do so. They work harder because they know they have to. They often dig deep into the playbook to get to know the nuances of the offense in order to get some edge to make up for the lack of speed or size or arm strength or whatever perceived short-coming that has been attributed to them.

As a fan, I'm pleased because no matter which guy emerges, the Texans win.
 
beerlover said:
"making things happen" is not always a good thing when those can be negative as well, which was my opinion of TJ while @ Carolina now with Houston. Seems I'm in the minority around here concerning Yates future being a bit more rosey.

He is a bit of a gunslinger, but that never stopped Farve or his detractors early on at least.

Yates has a quick release that is natural & fluid.

He has size & ability to elude the rush.

He also has a solid base of playing in this system which will only improve his chances for success.
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I like Tj, but definitely thinks he needs more help...

Right now, we've got a talented team..... Andre, Arian, OD, Casey... he's got play makers out there to help him out, make him look better than what he is.

Playing with a team like this can help build his confidence while he builds his skills.

Then later when the team isn't as stacked with talent, maybe he'll be ready to lead the team, because I think he's got the intangibles an NFL QB needs.

beerlover said:
Case has a longer road & more obstacles ahead to overcome.
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I think Case is more of the kind of guy that will make his team mates look better. Yes, make Andre look better, make Arian look better, make OD & Casey look better.

I'm not saying he is that guy, but what he did at UH leads me to believe he's capable of being that guy. I don't know if he's ready to do it at this time or at this level.

I think we're lucky to have both of them & can't wait to see how this plays out.
 
Just an FYI. Yesterday, Conference USA announced the winners of the 2011-12 Male Athlete of the Year award..........it was Case Keenum.
 
Funny that he wins the award on his way out the door to the NFL and his university out the door to the BE next year.

CUSA will probably become the new "forgotten conference"

TJ
 
this is what i love about message boards, its fun to go back and see who the true believers from the start were and who the converted ones were, and then the ones who say "iknew it all along" until u go back and see where they didnt.
 
GuerillaBlack said:
But no offensive line and its not like Keenum didn't go up against better competition and big schools. His entire body of work is impressive. He just needs to adjust to the speed. If he does that well, he is better than Schaub/Yates (better arm, accuracy, mobility, etc.).
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Looks like I was one of the right ones. ;)
 
After looking back, there wasn't really anyone who was super
negative or said the guy would fail.

I think the general concensus was that we needed a legit #3
given Schaub's health concerns and Keenum would have at least
been that (in everyone's mind at the time)

Pretty much a rosie thread really..

I expected him to be a good pro, but not nearly this quick.

(and certainly not to have the highest QB rating and most
yard per completion in NFL history for his first 2 starts)

TJ
 
Texn4life said:
76!!!! We're going to find out what your boy is made of. Now that he's a Texan I hope that he proves me wrong.
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Rey said:
Good pick up...

But it's a far cry from being number 1 overall to being undrafted....

Just messing wit ya 76...

But seriously...I like this pick up a lot...
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I didn't even really need to post in this thread.

Rey was referring to my posts in the college and mock draft forum.

I was saying things like if you think a guy can be a franchise QB, you need to seriously consider drafting him in the first round.

I consider Keenum as a grand general like Napoleon Bonaparte. He might be small in stature, but he ran roughshod all over Europe. Another inch or inch and a half and some ten-fifteen more pounds of muscle, and I would take him over Luck and RGIII any day.
The only concern I have with him is his size; he needs to be smart like Brees and Brady to avoid the hits as much as possible.
 
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