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3 NFL Games in London in 2014?

houstonspartan said:
The currency isn't an issue? The exchange rate with the British Pound is leveraged towards the British Pound. And has been for a long time. If we pay London-based players in British Pounds, they'd be making much more than American-based players. Do you really think the players Union would be ok with that?

If you pay London-based players in American dollars, that would be an issue as well, because the cost of living in London is so high that you'd have to pay them well above what NFL players in other markets are making.

Hauling a massive jumbo jet across the Atlantic isn't an issue? Are you kidding me? You think it's free to run those big jets across the pond? The owners will have to spend massive more amount of money on travel than they already do.

I am not making things up. These are all, real-world, legit issues. You are being obtuse.
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You must not work in the real world because simple business concepts seem to escape you.

Let's say a top flight qb makes 20 million usd a year and it takes 1.50 to purchase 1 gbp well the top flight qb on the London based team would make 13.33 million gbp a year instead. It's very simple math to take care of the conversion. All US based players could still be paid USD, for that matter so could the London based players and no you wouldn't have to make any absurd adjustments for cost of living, is the salary cap adjusted across the US? Nope. I can request my employer pay me in one of about 20 currencies no matter where I work or live.


There is an expense with the flight however is not prohibitive to keep this from happening and certainly something a London based owner would know going in to this

There is also not a magical 3 hour flight difference on the return flight
 
2012Champs said:
You must not work in the real world because simple business concepts seem to escape you.

Let's say a top flight qb makes 20 million usd a year and it takes 1.50 to purchase 1 gbp well the top flight qb on the London based team would make 13.33 million gbp a year instead. It's very simple math to take care of the conversion. All US based players could still be paid USD, for that matter so could the London based players and no you wouldn't have to make any absurd adjustments for cost of living, is the salary cap adjusted across the US? Nope. I can request my employer pay me in one of about 20 currencies no matter where I work or live.


There is an expense with the flight however is not prohibitive to keep this from happening and certainly something a London based owner would know going in to this

There is also not a magical 3 hour flight difference on the return flight
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Actually, I work in Houston for a London-based company. I know about business.

Anyway, as I said, we will have to agree to disagree. I'm done with this conversation.

A London team will not happen.
 
Dan B. said:
Dude I was in London last summer. My dollar did fine. 50 pounds a night for a decent hotel near Kensington. Beer was 2 pounds or so on average. Fast food was 3 or 4 pounds -- a decent dinner was 10 to 20. The pound was trading at 1 to 1.6 or so, so add 50% and you can see exactly how far my dollar went.

France cost me much more.

500,000 dollars a year (the minimum for a guy with 1 year's experience) equates to 310,000 pounds. Seriously, you don't think they can live on that? You think they need a subsidy?

Not to mention that we'd have to deal with the exchange rate and international tax laws if we expand to Mexico too. I'm pretty sure that players AND owners would rather tie their dollars to the pound than the peso. It's a helluva lot more stable for starters.
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Good grief.

You do realize that the exchange rate with Mexico favors the US dollar MUCH more than it does with the UK pound, no?

And, again: flying to Mexico is nothing compared to flying to London. Which dramatically negates the travel costs.

As I said, this conversation is going no where. Some of us just won't agree.

And, regardless of what people are finding as they rush to airline web sites to look up flight times to and from Europe, I have done that trip several times. Coming back from Europe is pretty much 3 hours longer - to Houston - than going over. That's been my experience, anyway.

Anyway, as I said, we will all agree to disagree...
 
houstonspartan said:
Good grief.

You do realize that the exchange rate with Mexico favors the US dollar MUCH more than it does with the UK pound, no?

And, again: flying to Mexico is nothing compared to flying to London. Which dramatically negates the travel costs.

As I said, this conversation is going no where. Some of us just won't agree.

And, regardless of what people are finding as they rush to airline web sites to look up flight times to and from Europe, I have done that trip several times. Coming back from Europe is pretty much 3 hours longer - to Houston - than going over. That's been my experience, anyway.

Anyway, as I said, we will all agree to disagree...
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hey you know the dollar is even stronger against the Columbian peso. Maybe they should put a team in Bogota.

Corrupt Federales shot up the airport a week after the last time I flew out of Benito Juarez. Maybe it's not "nothing" compared to a flight to London after all?
 
This is interesting. It would give London 8 games per season without a team...

Peter King @SI_PeterKing
NFL considering many London options. Reported on #NBCSNF that one option is lg playing 8-game package w/all teams rotating regularly.
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houstonspartan said:
Actually, I work in Houston for a London-based company. I know about business.

Anyway, as I said, we will have to agree to disagree. I'm done with this conversation.

A London team will not happen.
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No clearly you don't understand business because currency differences aren't an issue and you continue to show how ignorant you are on the topic. You work for a London based company in the US? Do you get paid in gbp? If not I can't understand how your company figured it out and the nfl cant


The added cost for longer flights will be something a London based owner could easily absorb without impacting the finances of a team to keep this from happening

Of course we can agree to disagree on a fake 3 hour travel time difference
 
houstonspartan said:
Good grief.

You do realize that the exchange rate with Mexico favors the US dollar MUCH more than it does with the UK pound, no?

And, again: flying to Mexico is nothing compared to flying to London. Which dramatically negates the travel costs.

As I said, this conversation is going no where. Some of us just won't agree.

And, regardless of what people are finding as they rush to airline web sites to look up flight times to and from Europe, I have done that trip several times. Coming back from Europe is pretty much 3 hours longer - to Houston - than going over. That's been my experience, anyway.

Anyway, as I said, we will all agree to disagree...
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It is not 3 hours longer. Christ look it up its a hour to hour and a half. You can't start saying "agree to disagree" when you are factually wrong an there is no retort you can make
 
houstonspartan said:
LOL!

You know, I never really "got" the concept of a Straw Man argument until now.

Thanks for clarifying that for me.

Unbelievable.
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You still don't get the concept.

You are arguing that since "the exchange rate with Mexico favors the US dollar MUCH more than it does with the UK pound," it means Mexico is a better candidate, are you not? If you aren't saying that what the heck are you pointing it out for? And I'm saying in response that the primary consideration isn't just where the exchange rate favors us -- if it were there are a lot of other candidates too. Player safety matters. The purchasing power of the fans in the city or country they place the team matters.

Hypothetical question: If London and Mexico City both got a team and both offered Payton $20 million to play for them, do you think Peyton Manning would rather make $20 million to play in Mexico City or London?
 
THE Big Mac index was invented by The Economist in 1986 as a lighthearted guide to whether currencies are at their “correct” level. It is based on the theory of purchasing-power parity (PPP), the notion that in the long run exchange rates should move towards the rate that would equalise the prices of an identical basket of goods and services (in this case, a burger) in any two countries. For example, the average price of a Big Mac in America in July 2013 was $4.56; in China it was only $2.61 at market exchange rates. So the "raw" Big Mac index says that the yuan was undervalued by 43% at that time.

Burgernomics was never intended as a precise gauge of currency misalignment, merely a tool to make exchange-rate theory more digestible. Yet the Big Mac index has become a global standard, included in several economic textbooks and the subject of at least 20 academic studies. For those who take their fast food more seriously, we have also calculated a gourmet version of the index.

This adjusted index addresses the criticism that you would expect average burger prices to be cheaper in poor countries than in rich ones because labour costs are lower. PPP signals where exchange rates should be heading in the long run, as a country like China gets richer, but it says little about today's equilibrium rate. The relationship between prices and GDP per person may be a better guide to the current fair value of a currency. The adjusted index uses the “line of best fit” between Big Mac prices and GDP per person for 48 countries (plus the euro area). The difference between the price predicted by the red line for each country, given its income per person, and its actual price gives a supersized measure of currency under- and over-valuation.
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http://www.economist.com/content/big-mac-index

According to this index the dollar is currently undervalued against the pound by 11.8%, and against the peso by 37.3%. At least these economists (from The Economist Magazine) think the dollar's purchasing power isn't as bad in Britain as you claim.
 
2012Champs said:
If they were to get their own team and all visting teams got their bye week following the game I dont see what the issue is.
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Why would they get a bye for playing in London? Teams don't even get a bye before playing a Thursday night game, which is waaaaaaaaaay more taxing on the players. Now if it were a Thursday night game in London, then the visiting team would need a bye prior to that game.
 
Dutchrudder said:
Why would they get a bye for playing in London? Teams don't even get a bye before playing a Thursday night game, which is waaaaaaaaaay more taxing on the players. Now if it were a Thursday night game in London, then the visiting team would need a bye prior to that game.
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The bye after the game would help offset the extended travel time. It certainly doesnt have to happen but I think it would be helpful
 
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