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Pick your final 53 and PS

Taking Byrne over Griffin so we have a legit blocking TE. Also taking Karim due to experience. Also cutting CarMichael for a CB that gets cut from another camp.

QB(3) Schaub/Yates/Keenum
RB(5) Foster/Tate/Karim/G. Jones/Clutts
TE(3) Daniels/Graham/Byrne
OL(9) Brown/W. Smith/Myers/Brooks/Newton/Jones/Harris/Gardner/Quessenberry
WR (5) Johnson/Jean/Hopkins/Martin/Bonner

DE(4) Watt/A.Smith/Crick/Jamison
DT(3) Mitchell/McClain/Muir
LB (9) Cushing/Mays/Sharpton/B. Reed/Mercilus/Braman/Dobbins/Jefferson/T. Williams
CB(5) Joseph/Jackson/McCain/Harris/FREE AGENT
S (4) Manning/Swearinger/Pleasant/Keo

ST (3) Weeks/Lechler/Bullock

PUP Ed Reed
PUP Sam Montgomery
PUP DeVier Posey
PUP Brennan Williams
 
Blake said:
PUP Ed Reed
PUP Sam Montgomery
PUP DeVier Posey
PUP Brennan Williams
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Just a small rules issue, but only players who have yet to practice in training camp can be placed on the PUP list.

This would mean Montgomery for sure is excluded, and I believe Williams also. If they are to be "injury stashed" it would have to be of the IR variety. Not sure if either would be considered valuable enough to "designate to return" as that option would likely be saved in case one of our stars got injured during the season (obviously I'm crossing my fingers that does not happen). Also all PUP/IR/NFI/etc. desinations count towards the salary cap, so with the little space the Texans have, it might limit how much stashing the Texans really do.

Unrelated to PUP/IR, I decided to go back and look at 2011 and 2012 roster #s at the very start of the season:

2012:

Offense (25)
QB (3)
RB (3)
FB (2)
WR (6)
TE (2)
OT (3)
C (2)
OG (4)

Defense (25)
NT (2)
DE (4)
ILB (4)
OLB (5)
CB (6)
S (4)

ST (3)


2011:

Offense (24)
QB (3)
RB (4)
FB (2)
TE (3)
WR (4)
OT (4)
C (1)
OG (3)

Defense (26)
NT (2)
DE (4)
OLB (5)
ILB (4)
CB (7)
S (4)

ST(3)

Two things that stood out to me was the large # of WRs/lack of TEs last year (obviously influenced by the carrying of Trindon last year as a "WR" and Casey being dual purpose) and the incredible # of corner backs on the roster just 2 years ago (though less than 2 weeks in Roc was IR'ed and Anderson was brought back as a 5th WR).

It does show that sometimes talent will outweigh balance, so just because it doesn't seem to make sense for this year's team to carry more than 6 D-Linemen or a 4th RB, I wouldn't count any player out just because their position group is crowded if all are talented enough.

Can't wait for this weeks and next's preseason game!
 
Blake said:
Taking Byrne over Griffin so we have a legit blocking TE. Also taking Karim due to experience. Also cutting CarMichael for a CB that gets cut from another camp.

QB(3) Schaub/Yates/Keenum
RB(5) Foster/Tate/Karim/G. Jones/Clutts
TE(3) Daniels/Graham/Byrne
OL(9) Brown/W. Smith/Myers/Brooks/Newton/Jones/Harris/Gardner/Quessenberry
WR (5) Johnson/Jean/Hopkins/Martin/Bonner

DE(4) Watt/A.Smith/Crick/Jamison
DT(3) Mitchell/McClain/Muir
LB (9) Cushing/Mays/Sharpton/B. Reed/Mercilus/Braman/Dobbins/Jefferson/T. Williams
CB(5) Joseph/Jackson/McCain/Harris/FREE AGENT
S (4) Manning/Swearinger/Pleasant/Keo

ST (3) Weeks/Lechler/Bullock

PUP Ed Reed
PUP Sam Montgomery
PUP DeVier Posey
PUP Brennan Williams
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I can't see Byrne leap-frogging Griffin. Granted, not completely out of the question, but I just can't see it. From all accounts, Griffin has exceeded expectations. Byrne could be a good PS candidate though.
 
Porky said:
I can't see Byrne leap-frogging Griffin. Granted, not completely out of the question, but I just can't see it. From all accounts, Griffin has exceeded expectations. Byrne could be a good PS candidate though.
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I thought both Griffin and Byrne looked good. If anything, it's going to make it hard not to have 4 TEs on the team and with this offense, that's not necessarily a bad thing.
 
Porky said:
I can't see Byrne leap-frogging Griffin. Granted, not completely out of the question, but I just can't see it. From all accounts, Griffin has exceeded expectations. Byrne could be a good PS candidate though.
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The Pencil Neck said:
I thought both Griffin and Byrne looked good. If anything, it's going to make it hard not to have 4 TEs on the team and with this offense, that's not necessarily a bad thing.
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He was a Wisconsin TE. LOCK TO MAKE THE TEAM!!!

;)
 
MidtownMikey said:
Just a small rules issue, but only players who have yet to practice in training camp can be placed on the PUP list.

This would mean Montgomery for sure is excluded, and I believe Williams also. If they are to be "injury stashed" it would have to be of the IR variety. Not sure if either would be considered valuable enough to "designate to return" as that option would likely be saved in case one of our stars got injured during the season (obviously I'm crossing my fingers that does not happen). Also all PUP/IR/NFI/etc. desinations count towards the salary cap, so with the little space the Texans have, it might limit how much stashing the Texans really do.
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I gotcha. Well the Texans will have to tell us if they think Montgomery and Williams are healthy enough to carry on the roster or IR candidates.
 
phantom17 said:
I really like the picks! However, I'm not feeling it with D Johnson RB, I like C Wood or DJ Karim. I'm tired of waiting for Harris CB to step it up. I hope they stash Shapiro P for a year, & take over for old man Shane L. I hope they keep Jefferson OLB.:)
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I think it's too early to count out D.Johnson.

Cierre Wood "looked" better, but the coaches saw something in DJ. Chances are his poor showing had nothing to do with him.

I think Cierre Wood earned playing time with the 1s & 2s & I thought Karim did a respectable job as well.

Going to Miami I would try to get Dj & CW some reps with the 1s & 2s, then feature Karim in the 3rd qtr. I'd run no one but Tate in the 4th, just to keep him warm.

It's not a demotion, when healthy I know what Tate can do. But I'd want to work the other guys with the 1s & 2s & can't afford to give them to Tate.
 
Rey said:
I had Jefferson on my roster, but tuggle had the better game.

Really, I'd cut trevardo if it was just based on performance.
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I may just be drinking the koolaid, but I think Jefferson can develop into a blue chip with the right coaching. No way I expose him to the waiver wire.

Tuggle had a very strong game, I'd put him on my list. (If I weren't so lazy)

To make room for him I Travardo is going to have a bad hammy or something & I'll stash him on IR.

Or I'd cut Dobbins outright. I hate to do it, but Reed's versatility (& I still think he'd make a better ILB than OLB) allows me to do it.

We need outside pass rushers in a bad way, I want as many bullets in my gun as I can get.
 
Roto is a great website but their latest report says that LeStar Jean is "squarely on the roster bubble". I love their breaking news, but think their analysis is more often poor at best than anything else.

Do yall agree that he is "squarely on the bubble" or do you, like me, believe he is almost certainly making the final 53?

...Martin is locked into a roster spot, where he'll be the Texans' primary return man and slot receiver. He figures to improve at least slightly on last year's 10/85/1 line. Lestar Jean is squarely on the roster bubble.
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TexansFTW said:
Roto is a great website but their latest report says that LeStar Jean is "squarely on the roster bubble". I love their breaking news, but think their analysis is more often poor at best than anything else.

Do yall agree that he is "squarely on the bubble" or do you, like me, believe he is almost certainly making the final 53?
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I think LeStar Jean makes the roster in the end with Posey on the PUP, *BUT* would be the most likely cut to make room for Posey once he can return mid-season.
 
TexansFTW said:
Roto is a great website but their latest report says that LeStar Jean is "squarely on the roster bubble". I love their breaking news, but think their analysis is more often poor at best than anything else.

Do yall agree that he is "squarely on the bubble" or do you, like me, believe he is almost certainly making the final 53?
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I think he's definitely on the bubble and tending to cut.

If they bring Posey off the PUP next week like they've been hinting, Jean is gone. After the performance he had last week, he's got to scramble and start making some plays or that's it for him.
 
TexansFTW said:
Roto is a great website but their latest report says that LeStar Jean is "squarely on the roster bubble". I love their breaking news, but think their analysis is more often poor at best than anything else.

Do yall agree that he is "squarely on the bubble" or do you, like me, believe he is almost certainly making the final 53?
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If Posey gets off the PUP next week, I would say Jean is on the bubble.
 
thunderkyss said:
Cierre Wood "looked" better, but the coaches saw something in DJ. Chances are his poor showing had nothing to do with him.
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So, CW jsut "looked" good. He wasn't actually good? And chances are DJ's poor showing had nothing to do with him? Was he having an out of body experience?

Is this some kind of conspiracy theory your building? :tinfoil:
 
Porky said:
So, CW jsut "looked" good. He wasn't actually good? And chances are DJ's poor showing had nothing to do with him? Was he having an out of body experience?

Is this some kind of conspiracy theory your building? :tinfoil:
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I'm not telling





:kitten:
 
Porky said:
So, CW jsut "looked" good. He wasn't actually good? And chances are DJ's poor showing had nothing to do with him? Was he having an out of body experience?

Is this some kind of conspiracy theory your building? :tinfoil:
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He's saying that the blocking was better against the 3rd teamers Wood was playing against and that our 1's and 2's didn't play very well against Minnesota's 1's and 2's.
 
The Pencil Neck said:
He's saying that the blocking was better against the 3rd teamers Wood was playing against and that our 1's and 2's didn't play very well against Minnesota's 1's and 2's.
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Hard to say if it was blocking .... What I saw from Wood was one cut and get gone. DJ on the other hand didn't seem as quick to or thru the holes.


Wood reminded me of Foster .... on several runs both inside & out.


One thing we have to take into consideration is who is better at picking up the blitz & blocking .... knowing how big a deal that is to Gary. That was the biggest issue Gary had with Foster early on.
 
Corrosion said:
Hard to say if it was blocking .... What I saw from Wood was one cut and get gone. DJ on the other hand didn't seem as quick to or thru the holes.


Wood reminded me of Foster .... on several runs both inside & out.


One thing we have to take into consideration is who is better at picking up the blitz & blocking .... knowing how big a deal that is to Gary. That was the biggest issue Gary had with Foster early on.
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I was pretty pleasantly surprised with DJs ability to pass protect.
 
Hadn't seen it posted anywhere but it looks like karim is going to get the back duty to Ben Tate.
 
Porky said:
So, CW jsut "looked" good. He wasn't actually good? And chances are DJ's poor showing had nothing to do with him? Was he having an out of body experience?

Is this some kind of conspiracy theory your building? :tinfoil:
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All I'm saying is the conclusions we make after watching one preseason game are most likely not very accurate.

The coaches draw up the plays, they practice those plays against a "known" defense. Come game time, everything that happens on the defensive side of the ball is your wild-card, & you get to see how your team made adjustments.

If D.Johnson has been playing well enough in practice to get 1st team snaps, he's been playing well enough to get 1st team snaps. So I have to believe if the line executed the play 100% correctly that Dj would have performed better than Cierre Wood (unless the Texans are working on something like his maturity, or work ethic, I don't know). If the line ahead of him didn't make the proper adjustments, it makes it harder for him to make the proper reads.

My question now would be how poorly can the line play before Cierre Wood becomes the better back. Maybe if there's a 10% breakdown, Dj is still the better back, maybe if there's a 25% breakdown, Cierre has the ability to make something happen that Dj doesn't.

But from what I saw Dj didn't have a lot to work with & Cierre had many options.

Of course even a preseason game is faster than training camp practice, so that might have been part of it too. Watching the game, like everyone else, I'm wondering how Dj got 1st team snaps, but I don't know that Cierre Wood would have done much better.

We've all seen preseason All-Pros that didn't amount to much once the season started.
 
QB: Schaub, Yates, Keenum (3)
RB: Arian, Tate, Deji Kerim, Wood(4) (TBH I'd rather get rid of Tate and run with Wood)
WR: Dre, Hopkins, Martin, Posey, LeStar Jean (5)
FB: Jones(1) (I'd like to keep Clutts though, #'s game)
TE: OD, G. Graham, Griffin (3)
OT: Brown, Newton, Harris (3)
OG: Brooks, Smith, Quessenberry (3)
C: Meyers, Ben Jones (2)

NT: Mitchell, McClain, Chris Jones (3)
DE: Watt, Smith, Crick, Jamison (4)
ILB: Cushing, Sharpton, Mays, Dobbins (4)
OLB: Reed, Merciless, Jefferson, Montgomery, T. Williams(5)
CB: JJo, Kjax, McCain, Bouye, Harris (5)
FS: Reed, Swearinger (2)
SS: Manning, Pleasant, Keo (3)

K: Bullock
P: Lechler
LS: Weeks

Practice Squad: Tuggle, Bonner, Lemon, Boren, Graham, (Other guys)
IR: Brandon Williams
 
Brandon420tx said:
QB: Schaub, Yates, Keenum (3)
RB: Arian, Tate, Deji Kerim, Wood(4) (TBH I'd rather get rid of Tate and run with Wood)
WR: Dre, Hopkins, Martin, Posey, LeStar Jean (5)
FB: Jones(1) (I'd like to keep Clutts though, #'s game)
TE: OD, G. Graham, Griffin (3)
OT: Brown, Newton, Harris (3)
OG: Brooks, Smith, Quessenberry (3)
C: Meyers, Ben Jones (2)

NT: Mitchell, McClain, Chris Jones (3)
DE: Watt, Smith, Crick, Jamison (4)
ILB: Cushing, Sharpton, Mays, Dobbins (4)
OLB: Reed, Merciless, Jefferson, Montgomery, T. Williams(5)
CB: JJo, Kjax, McCain, Bouye, Harris (5)
FS: Reed, Swearinger (2)
SS: Manning, Pleasant, Keo (3)

K: Bullock
P: Lechler
LS: Weeks

Practice Squad: Tuggle, Bonner, Lemon, Boren, Graham, (Other guys)
IR: Brandon Williams
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I like it. Only things I'd do different (since I'm too lazy to do my own 53) is IR Wade Smith, Keep Clutts. Cut Dobbins, Keep Braman. Stash Mohamed on the PS.
 
thunderkyss said:
I like it. Only things I'd do different (since I'm too lazy to do my own 53) is IR Wade Smith, Keep Clutts. Cut Dobbins, Keep Braman. Stash Mohamed on the PS.
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With Wade Smith I see 2 options. They either keep him on the roster (which is what I expect which means Clutts is gone), or they cut him. There is little reason to IR someone who is in the last year of their contract and the team will probably not sign next year. Instead, a cut would give them a chance to recoup some of the salary hit (be it through an injury settlement or how if Wade Smith's final year is only partially/not guaranteed for injury). I'm thinking he's kept and Clutts is gone.

I do agree though that Dobbins may get cut. I'm thinking that despite his experience with the defense he is likely in the dog house from his focus on building his house during OTAs. I just wish Mays wasn't giving me Bradie James flashbacks last night when he tried to "cover" a back or TE.

I'm thinking Braman sticks, but if they keep Dobbins, it will be Pleasant who finds his way back onto the practice squad to make room for Braman. The injury situation scares me with our safeties (when might Reed be back?), but the talk of playing Harris some at safety makes me think they won't carry more than 4 safeties on the roster and instead carry more linebackers or line depth. The reason reason I think Pleasant is back to the practice squad is on special teams he seems to be performing badly/getting unnecessary penalties when we know our STs needs all the help it can get.
 
Texn4life said:
Klein? Is he even in a camp right now?
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I don't know but I believe we brought him in during the OTAs and took a look at him. If they were going to put him on the PS, you'd think they'd have already gotten rid of McGee and brought Klein in so he can be getting some training.
 
The Pencil Neck said:
I don't know but I believe we brought him in during the OTAs and took a look at him. If they were going to put him on the PS, you'd think they'd have already gotten rid of McGee and brought Klein in so he can be getting some training.
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Yeah, that's why I was asking. It would be kind of weird to use a PS spot on him over other guys currently in camp. Especially for a player not invited to any team's camp in the league.
 
thunderkyss said:
I like it. Only things I'd do different (since I'm too lazy to do my own 53) is IR Wade Smith, Keep Clutts. Cut Dobbins, Keep Braman. Stash Mohamed on the PS.
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Mohamed has looked better than any other ILB not named Cushing. Not sure he should be kept out of the roster
 
Yaky said:
Mohamed has looked better than any other ILB not named Cushing. Not sure he should be kept out of the roster
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Right now, the obvious ILB rotation... judging by when guys have come into the games... it's:

1. Cush
2. Mays
3. Sharpton
4. Mohamed
5. Davis

It's interesting because early on in TC, it was Cameron Collins that was getting 1st team reps. But then he got hurt and now, he's fallen off the charts.

One of Mohamed and Davis could make it... but I don't see them on the team if Dobbins makes it.
 
The Pencil Neck said:
It's interesting because early on in TC, it was Cameron Collins that was getting 1st team reps. But then he got hurt and now, he's fallen off the charts.

One of Mohamed and Davis could make it... but I don't see them on the team if Dobbins makes it.
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I've seen both Collins & Mohamed take snaps at both ILB & OLB. Haven't seen much from Collins. I don't know if Mohamed has PS eligibility anymore. He's been on Denver's PS & the Jags PS....

But I like his size. Sharpton & Mays has experience, & Mohamed has been in the league for a couple of years. The three of them & Dobbins.... pretty much the same guy. Wade isn't going to be asking them to do anything too complicated & the young legs would be good fro STs.

I like Dobbins... but I'm not attached.
 
Mohamed still has practice squad eligibility, but as a third year player, the Texans would be required to keep 53 players on the roster to have him on the practice squad. If they drop to 52, he would automatically be brought up to the active roster (not sure how that works if they cut someone to sign someone the same day though).

Here is a good list of everyone eligible that the Texans had on their 90 man roster back in July:

http://www.stateofthetexans.com/texans-eligible-practice-squad-players/
 
OFFENSE (25)
QB: Schaub, Yates, Keenum
RB: Foster, Tate, Karim
FB: G. Jones
WR: Johnson, Hopkins, Martin, Jean, Posey, Bonner
TE: Daniels, Graham, Griffin
OT: Brown, Newton, R. Harris, B. Williams
OG: W. Smith, Brooks, Quessenberry
C: Myers, B. Jones

DEFENSE (25)
DE: Watt, A. Smith, Jamison, Crick
NT: Mitchell, McClain
OLB: B. Reed, Mercilus, Braman, Montgomery, T. Williams
ILB: Cushing, Mays, Dobbins, Sharpton
CB: Joseph, Jackson, McCain, B. Harris, Carmichael, Bouye
S: Manning, Swearinger, Keo, Pleasant

SPECIAL TEAMS (3)
K: Bullock
P: Lechler
LS: Weeks

PUP LIST (1)
S: E. Reed
 
Mari-OWNED! said:
OFFENSE (25)
QB: Schaub, Yates, Keenum
RB: Foster, Tate, Karim
FB: G. Jones
WR: Johnson, Hopkins, Martin, Jean, Posey, Bonner
TE: Daniels, Graham, Griffin
OT: Brown, Newton, R. Harris, B. Williams
OG: W. Smith, Brooks, Quessenberry
C: Myers, B. Jones

DEFENSE (25)
DE: Watt, A. Smith, Jamison, Crick
NT: Mitchell, McClain
OLB: B. Reed, Mercilus, Braman, Montgomery, T. Williams
ILB: Cushing, Mays, Dobbins, Sharpton
CB: Joseph, Jackson, McCain, B. Harris, Carmichael, Bouye
S: Manning, Swearinger, Keo, Pleasant

SPECIAL TEAMS (3)
K: Bullock
P: Lechler
LS: Weeks

PUP LIST (1)
S: E. Reed
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I am not sure about ROC. If Bonner not able to play, Texans may put him on IR to keep him where safe. For an extra WR spot, Texans may put Lemon in there. T position, Menkin may have a chance depends on how he performs in remaining pre-season games. With nice showing of UDFA LBs, I think there's a possibility of keeping 10 LBs on roster. I don't know how the final 53 will be but, this is how I see it at the moment.
 
OFFENSE (25)
QB: Schaub, Keenum
RB: Ben Tate, Karim, Wood, D. Johnson
FB: G. Jones
WR: Johnson, Hopkins, Martin, Jean, Posey, Bonner
TE: Daniels, Graham, Griffin
OT: Brown, Newton, R. Harris, A. Gardner
OG: W. Smith, Brooks, Quessenberry
C: Myers, B. Jones

DEFENSE (25)
DE: Watt, A. Smith, Jamison, Crick
NT: Mitchell, McClain, Jones
OLB: B. Reed, Mercilus, Braman, Montgomery, T. Williams, W. Jefferson
ILB: Cushing, Mays, Sharpton
CB: Joseph, Jackson, McCain, B. Harris, Carmichael
S: Reed, Manning, Swearinger, Keo

SPECIAL TEAMS (3)
K: Bullock
P: Lechler
LS: Weeks

IR (1)
OT: Brennan Williams

PUP LIST (1)
RB: Arian Foster

Practice Squad (7)Lemon WR, Hunter DT, Cody White OG/C, McGee QB, Mohamed LB, Bouye CB, Tuggle OLB

Trades (1)
TJ Yates for 2nd Rd. Draft Pick
 
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OFFENSE (24)
QB: Schaub,Yates, Keenum
RB: Foster, Tate, Wood
FB: G. Jones
WR: Johnson, Hopkins, Martin, Jean, Posey
TE: Daniels, Graham, Griffin
OT: Brown, Newton, R. Harris, A. Gardner
OG: W. Smith, Brooks, Quessenberry
C: Myers, B. Jones

DEFENSE (26)
DE: Watt, A. Smith, Jamison, Crick
NT: Mitchell, McClain, Jones
OLB: B. Reed, Mercilus, Braman, Montgomery, T. Williams, W. Jefferson
ILB: Cushing, Mays, Sharpton, Dobbins
CB: Joseph, Jackson, McCain, B. Harris, Bouye
S: Reed, Manning, Swearinger, Keo

SPECIAL TEAMS (3)
K: Bullock
P: Lechler
LS: Weeks

PUP - Bonner & Brennan Williams.


Practice Squad
Lemon
Hunter
Cody White
Mohamed
Tuggle
Pleasant


Shapiro end up with a mysterious injury sending him to the PUP or IR.
 
Neither Bonner, nor B Williams is eligible for PUP. If they don't make your roster, it's either cut or PS or IR if you can show an injury.

Some interesting work there guys. I don't see anyone giving us a #2 for TJ Yates. I could maybe see a 3 or 4 if I really stretch it, and a team got really desperate but he hasn't shown he is a capable FT starter at all, and a team isn't going to give up a #2 for a backup anything imho.

Also don't see how Bonner makes it at this point.
 
Porky said:
Neither Bonner, nor B Williams is eligible for PUP. If they don't make your roster, it's either cut or PS or IR if you can show an injury.

Some interesting work there guys. I don't see anyone giving us a #2 for TJ Yates. I could maybe see a 3 or 4 if I really stretch it, and a team got really desperate but he hasn't shown he is a capable FT starter at all, and a team isn't going to give up a #2 for a backup anything imho.

Also don't see how Bonner makes it at this point.
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How come they aren't PUP eligible ?
Bonner would probably be safe on the PS, but no way would 3rd round pick
B. Williams.
 
Porky said:
Neither Bonner, nor B Williams is eligible for PUP. If they don't make your roster, it's either cut or PS or IR if you can show an injury.

Some interesting work there guys. I don't see anyone giving us a #2 for TJ Yates. I could maybe see a 3 or 4 if I really stretch it, and a team got really desperate but he hasn't shown he is a capable FT starter at all, and a team isn't going to give up a #2 for a backup anything imho.

Also don't see how Bonner makes it at this point.
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Thanks, made a couple of adjustments.

I think Foster/Reed are interchangeable. Bottom line is we want both of them full strength come playoff time. I would prefer to be sure on Arian concerning his back, would like to see his career extended. Also need to find out what Tate could do given the #1 reps plus get a chance to see what the young backs bring.

Yates deserves a chance to start, he is ready. Just one example of another teams QB woes but I would take him over Mark Sanchez or Tim Tebow anyday. Look what teams gave up for them. He is cheap, developed & does have significant trade value IMO (they could get 3rd rd. offers all day but I would hold out for that 2nd).

Texans need to move forward with Case Keenam, he need the reps.

I really had my doubts going into the draft that Brennan Williams would be able to play this season, nothing so far has changed my mind.
 
Corrosion said:
Shapiro end up with a mysterious injury sending him to the PUP or IR.
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Don't see this happening. Just yesterday, in the after practice "Quotes", Kubiak said Shapiro was "gonna play somewhere in this league."

He's just allowing Shapiro to audition.
 
IDEXAN said:
How come they aren't PUP eligible ?
Bonner would probably be safe on the PS, but no way would 3rd round pick
B. Williams.
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To be eligible they cannot have practiced in team drills/not been on the PUP list in training camp. At this point, only Foster or Reed could be PUP'ed.

I know Indy got in trouble with Bradshaw because they had him taking handoffs in a drill before he was officially removed off the training camp PUP, which forced them to remove him off when they did.
 
QB: Schaub,Yates, Keenum
RB: Foster, Tate, Karim
FB: G. Jones
WR: Johnson, Hopkins, Martin, Jean, Posey
TE: Daniels, Graham, Griffin
OT: Brown, Newton, R. Harris
OG: W. Smith, Brooks, Quessenberry
C: Myers, B. Jones

DEFENSE
DE: Watt, A. Smith, Jamison, Crick
NT: Mitchell, McClain, Jones
OLB: B. Reed, Mercilus, Braman, W. Jefferson, Tuggle, Trevardo
ILB: Cushing, Mays, Sharpton, Dobbins
CB: Joseph, Jackson, McCain, B. Harris, Bouye
S: Reed, Manning, Swearinger, Keo

SPECIAL TEAMS
K: Bullock
P: Lechler, Shapiro
LS: Weeks


This is where I'm at right now.

Right now, to me Shapiro is more valuable than Trevardo Williams or Montgomery. He's played in every game and he's done a good job. He can do all the kicks...Kick offs, Punts and field goals. I'd hold on to him.

I think Montgomery is going on IR.
 
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