Because he's more athletic than Brooks and therefor better suited to get into the second-level, I see Quess as the Texans LG and Brooks on the right side because the Texans are basically a right-handed team (Schaub is right-handed, runs his boots to the right). Brooks strength is, well strength, and that's why they would want him blocking on the play-side as much as possible. Also it's not just LT Duane Brown, but the LG who's got Schaub's 'blind-side", and Quess was a multi-year LT in college and therefor probably a better, more experienced pass-blocker than Brooks.
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I can see that... replacing Winston as the road grader on the right.
The thing is, according to Football Outsiders, the Texans ran 34% to the left and 26% to the right last year.
I looked at their charts in random years, and there's no telling the tendency of all the teams.
Teams don't run to the right as one may think the general rule is.
The numbers are all over the place.
But since most teams are "right-handed", don't they have a "bias" to put a bigger, stronger guard (and also tackle for that matter) on the right side, and a quicker, more athletic guard on the left-side ?
CloakNNNdagger
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Yeh, it's more about the "blind side" than the run game.
I don't know; it will be interesting to look up.
On the other hand, I've had read at least one account of a previous NFL Guard who said that the blind-side OG sees more help from the Center (this part is going to be impossible to quantified.)
Yes, that certainly does apply for the left-tackle.
Here's one of the pieces that I read:
"Ross Tucker knows more about offensive line play than me, you and 10 other fans put together. He played every position along the line during a seven-year NFL career that included 23 starts. So when he writes about offensive line play, it's worth paying attention. Add in the fact that he doesn't regurgitate conventional wisdom and his new stuff at SI.com becomes a must read.
To Tucker, all these megadeals that left guards have been getting, including Alan Faneca's recent $40 million deals make no sense, because as he sees it, left guard is the second easiest position on the line to play. He ranks left tackle as the toughest, followed by right tackle. But he sees right guard as the position that is underappreciated. The reason is that he believes most team's better interior pass rusher is lined up against the right guard. And on most teams, the left guard gets help from the center as they slide the protection to the left, while the right guard is left on an island in pass blocking..."
http://www.aolnews.com/2008/04/05/are-left-guards-overrated/
Thanks for the link 76Texan. It was especially interesting to hear the author's thoughts about the center position being the easiest OLine position to master, with all of that talk we hear about how smart the guy who plays center is supposed to be. But then what is so hard about identifying where the MLB is in the defense and screaming out, "MIK is 56".
Here's a question though, why did the Cardinals put one of the mostly highly drafted offensive guards ever (Jonathon Cooper, # 7 overall in April), on the left instead of the right side of the center in their offensive line ?
Here's a question though, why did the Cardinals put one of the mostly highly drafted offensive guards ever (Jonathon Cooper, # 7 overall in April), on the left instead of the right side of the center in their offensive line ?
CloakNNNdagger
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Thanks for posting. After reading it, I am left wondering if this observation is not more sensitive to a team's offensive scheme rather than to the defenses it faces.
paycheck71
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He played all 5 positions on the OL in a 7 year career, with 23 starts.
He may not be the "expert" we think him to be. Athletically talented.... mos def... but obviously something didn't translate to game day.
& by no means am I an expert, but I tend to remember Warren Sapp & Simeon Rice lined up predominantly over the LG.
He played all 5 positions on the OL in a 7 year career, with 23 starts.
He may not be the "expert" we think him to be. Athletically talented.... mos def... but obviously something didn't translate to game day.
& by no means am I an expert, but I tend to remember Warren Sapp & Simeon Rice lined up predominantly over the LG.
And I'm pretty sure I've seen Watt the most over the RG or RT.
I haven't paid attention to Sapp or Rice, but I do recall watching Wade's guys when I tried to learn about Wade's defense over the years, that Bruce Smith lined up all over the place (like Watt did), but I'm pretty sure he made an awful lot of plays over the RG and RT.
I'll see if I can confirm that when I have some time to rewatch the games.
If my memory is faulty, I promise I'll let you know.
paycheck71
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So, what am I missing? I don't see the link to the hangout from the website, and I don't see one published on TheSidelineView Google+ page... Is it not on yet?
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Now it looks like a "full game chat" ... http://www.thesidelineview.com/columns/nfl/live-texans-vs-dolphins-preseason-hangout-full-game-chat
Who knows if it'll work or not.
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Gary? Rick?
lol most regulars know that several of us pretend we are GMs and maintain rosters, review college tapes and games and do mock drafts. If you are interested, visit the NFL mock draft forum where we exchange info, ideas and debate players. It gets heated up in a few more weeks when college teams are rocking.
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For a year, I have been discussing replacing Wade Smith after 2013 season due to his age and salary. His health now adds to my position. If Crick can start in 2014, Wade should be gone.
badboy
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This has been my position since the draft. I'd like to see Q back up Brown and Smith this season and start LG 2014.
This has been my position since the draft. I'd like to see Q back up Brown and Smith this season and start LG 2014.
Maybe we'll see a rotation of Quiz and Jones at LG and a rotation of Newton and Harris at RT this year? At least until somebody steps into their role full-time?
Is Crick going to switch to offense?
Or does Crick starting mean we don't need Wade Phillips anymore?
You know I'm on your side, I just need to know which of my goofy arguments I need to brush up on.
CloakNNNdagger
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I thought that was what you meant.
CloakNNNdagger
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Probably meant Jones........I think.
infantrycak
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Q looked much better than Jones. I don't want to see a rotation there. If Smith can't go, throw Q in.
CloakNNNdagger
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Amen.
Should the Texans be on the lookout for a vet guard who might be on the trading block? Do they have enough cap space to even pickup a vet? This is a big year for this franchise and I would be a lot more comfortable with Quessenberry backing up at guard and tackle than forcing him into the starting lineup on week 1.
badboy
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It actually took two reads for me to get what you were saying! lol I want Crick to replace Antonio 2014 ($9m cap) and Q to replace Wade. Too dang many Smiths. A mind is a terrible thing to waste...I am now accepting email donations for the "save BADBOY" collection. Can I count on you to be first with a hefty gift?
Tailgate
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Not sure if it would be worth it imo. If Quess is the future, let him gain the experience. The problem with our scheme it seems the more you mix and match the worse our play is. This scheme relies heavily on becoming one cohesive unit. Havent seen that since Winston and Brisiel.
badboy
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Absolutely! I want a fluid LG who can assist Brown in keeping MS safe. Brooks just fits better imo on right and should improve our run to the right scheme. Q sort of reminds me of Bruce Matthews who could play either tackle or guard. Like you, I'd prefer Smith healthy to start this season allowing Q to not get in the fire but he is getting valuable experience now.
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I agree. I'd like to see him get a lot of PT with the 1's against the Saints. If he holds up against starters I'd roll with him. Imo, Jones hasn't progressed much since last season
Quiz does look athletic, but he hasn't seen much competition (and it's not like he didn't have a few lumps here and there), I wouldn't mind seeing him getting a start next game just to see how he handles himself.
But the way it is right now, it looks like Jones is going to get the nod.
I'm afraid the Texans won't pick up a veteran in the hope that Smith can still come back sometimes down the road.
Any news on that front?
badboy
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There is nothing out there but I would not be shocked if a vet were signed if it became obvious Smith not able to get on field for a few weeks. IMO, we would remain as is if doctors are saying he will be okay. For Jones to get the nod, he must play much better.
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Everything coming from the Texans so far is of the "just a little cleanup, be back soon" nature. Not so from Dr CND.
I'll have to watch again since so many keep saying Jones has been playing poorly. I don't recall anything so bad from him. At least not as bad as what I've been seeing from Wade.
I admit he is not the type of player I want to see on the left side & I think Q is a better fit, but I don't believe BenJones starting or playing in a rotation with Q is going to be detrimental to our success.
In fact I think Jones playing will be beneficial. If we need him to come in at Center, ant time he spends next to Chris Myers in a real game is beneficial.
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Jones hasn't played four quarter against first teamers, but he had to move from LG to C during the game.
He did many good things, but also had some poor plays.
It's still early to gauge how he's going to do.
I'll give him some more time.