Patriots TE Aaron Hernandez to be Questioned

[Mr teX]

LOL, sounds like me when 2012Champs insists on continuing to debate something that either has nothing to do with the point of the conversation, or cannot understand (or admit to understanding) something very simple about a situation.



It's odd to me when you get these weedheads who also turn into violent people. When I smoked weed, I never wanted to fight anyone or get in any kind of argument. Maybe they used the weed to calm themselves down? It just seems so odd to me.

That's probably b/c you were smoking pure weed with no additives. These days its rare you'll find pure weed. Even though these things were around in the 70's it has steadily picked up steam in the mid to late 90's to now with kids smoking weed with additives.

"wet" = weed dipped in embalming fluid
"fry"/"sherm"/"illy" = weed dipped in PCP

& if you've ever been around some of these people smoking this stuff...they can get pretty crazy.

 

[Coolhandsluke2]

Copied and pasted from a pats forum

http://www.patriotsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=66735&page=44


2:37 p.m.: An image has surfaced of the man suing Aaron Hernandez. Alexander Bradley said the tight end shot him through the arm and into the face, causing the loss of his right eye.

Bradley’s mugshot from April, two months after the shooting, appears to show Bradley without a right eye.

Check it out in the tweet below.

12:08 p.m.: Ian Rapoport just tweeted that police have entered Aaron Hernandez’s house with a search warrant. The two Massachusetts State police officers knocked on Hernandez’s door, entered and quickly left, according to Kevin Armstrong of the New York Daily News.

11:45 a.m.: Aaron Hernandez was asked to leave the Patriots’ facility on Thursday because the team was wary of the media circus arriving, according to Ian Rapoport of NFL.com. There were events at the stadium (including one with Govenor Deval Patrick) and the team felt Hernandez shouldn’t be present.

Rapoport reports Hernandez was in the facility for 35 minutes and did not work out. Rapoport also said Hernandez would not be back at Gillette Stadium until at least July 25, when training camp starts.

11:36 a.m.: An earlier report from The Boston Globe says that Odin Lloyd was killed in the North Attleboro industrial park where he was found. The report also said Lloyd had been shot multiple times.

11:35 a.m.: Ian Rapoport of NFL.com is reporting that the court magistrate told the NFL Network that three search warrants have been issued in the North Attleboro murder investigation. They would not give out locations of the warrants, though.

11:30 a.m. EST: There have been conflicting reports throughout the morning about a possible arrest warrant issued for Aaron Hernandez. ABC and CBS reported earlier that an arrest warrant had been issued, but The Boston Globe and NFL.com reported an arrest warrant had not been issued. The latest that ABC is reporting is that an arrest warrant has been drawn up, but not issued yet.

The warrant is for obstruction of justice. Hernandez reportedly destroyed a cell phone and security system and hired a cleaning crew for his house on Monday.

Earlier in the morning, there were reports that Hernandez is barred from the Patriots’ facility. Hernandez also reportedly threatened Wes Welker over some rookie razzing in 2010

 

[thunderkyss]

Copied and pasted from a pats forum

http://www.patriotsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=66735&page=44


2:37 p.m.: An image has surfaced of the man suing Aaron Hernandez. Alexander Bradley said the tight end shot him through the arm and into the face, causing the loss of his right eye.

Bradley’s mugshot from April, two months after the shooting, appears to show Bradley without a right eye.

This has nothing to do with the current dead body right? What we're saying here is that Aaron Hernandez shot a man in the arm & eye back in April, in addition to whatever Hernandez's involvement is with this new case?

So that thing happened in April, then the Patriots extended his contract, then this thing happens, then the Patriots banned him from the facility??

Wow....

 

[CloakNNNdagger]

CytoSport, a sports nutrition company whose products include Muscle Milk, said in a statement that it was ending its contract “in light of the investigation involving Aaron Hernandez.”

Hernandez also has a two-year endorsement deal with Puma, the sportswear company, announced earlier this year. A Puma spokeswoman said Friday that the company was aware of the situation but had no comment.

link

 

[BullBlitz]

I hate that a dude lost his life in this story. No way to be subjective about that part.

But, I have to admit that anything that distracts the Patriots is good for our team considering the two games last season. Ravens getting gutted and a distracted Patriots team (murder charges and Tebowmania) means the Texans can find a gap to shoot for in January.

Patriots will be fine.

 

[Playoffs]

ABC: Hernandez warrant coming

"There's a federal statute in every state that you cannot knowingly destroy evidence. And what [authorities] believe has happened here is that the home surveillance system was destroyed, the cellphone was destroyed, the house was cleaned, and the police think there was evidence that was destroyed because of that," ESPN legal analyst Roger Cossack said.

Federal statute in every state -- I'm confused.

Does that mean the Feds can come in and charge him for destroying evidence?

 

[dc_txtech]

These days its rare you'll find pure weed.

Lol, that might be the most ill-informed statement about weed since Reefer Madness.

 

[Playoffs]

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[Playoffs]

A source told FOX 25's Bob Ward that the warrant, for obstruction of justice, was issued early Friday morning. The source says the warrant is what is known as a "paper warrant." State Police are not executing it for the time being.

If the warrant were entered into the system, any police officer could immediately arrest Hernandez.

FOX 25 legal analyst Brad Bailey says the use of a paper warrant is often used as a means of negotiation with a defense attorney.

"It may be that this is a squeeze tactic," Bailey explains. "It may be telling Mr. Hernandez that we have a warrant, a warrant for a crime that has a potential maximum penalty of seven years in prison, is a tactic to get him to come to the table, start talking and start cooperating. And that's where the lawyers may be saying, okay, we got it. You got our attention. We're willing to respond."

On Thursday, Ward's sources confirmed that a hard drive to Hernandez's home surveillance system was heavily damaged when state police investigators went to his home earlier this week. A source also said that Hernandez's cell phone was confiscated by police and that it had also suffered damage.

Sources said there was video evidence of Hernandez and two other men wearing hooded sweatshirts walking into Hernandez's home within minutes of neighbors hearing gunshots between 3 a.m. and 3:30 a.m. Monday morning. The sources said neighbors did not report the shots right away.

About an hour before Hernandez was seen on video walking into his home, he was seen at Lloyd's home in Dorchester according to another source.

Hernandez, Lloyd, and two other men were reportedly at a bar in Boston the night of the homicide, and at some point, the four men left together in a car driven by Hernandez which was confirmed by a text Lloyd sent another friend, a source said.

FOX 25 legal analysts say that an obstruction of justice charge is serious, particularly in a murder investigation and can carry a sentence of up to five years in prison.

Read more: http://www.myfoxboston.com/story/22...-hernandez#.UcTovYpG7zU.twitter#ixzz2Wuqw9IaO

 

[Rey]

I don't think he plays in the nfl again.

 

[chicagotexan2]

I don't think he plays in the nfl again.

If ray lewis and Leonard little did I won't rule any loser out.

 

[b0ng]

I don't think he plays in the nfl again.

Even if he gets convicted, as long as his sentence isn't more than a year or so, he'll play again.

 

[thunderkyss]

If ray lewis and Leonard little did I won't rule any loser out.

Far as I know there was that one incident with Rey Lewis and he was acquitted for it.

But even if Aaron Hernandez is acquitted of all wrong doing on this incident, there's still the one from April where he allegedly shot a guy in the eye.

Rey Lewis is also in the "greatest LB of all time" conversation. I can understand people taking a chance on him. Hernandez isn't even in the "greatest TEs in Patriots history" conversation.

 

[2012Champs]

Far as I know there was that one incident with Rey Lewis and he was acquitted for it.

But even if Aaron Hernandez is acquitted of all wrong doing on this incident, there's still the one from April where he allegedly shot a guy in the eye.

Rey Lewis is also in the "greatest LB of all time" conversation. I can understand people taking a chance on him. Hernandez isn't even in the "greatest TEs in Patriots history" conversation.

Lewis pled guilty to obstruction of justice and the murder charges were dropped. They other two guys involved in the murder case were unanimously acquitted by a jury of all charges

 

[Playoffs]

This gets more bizarre...

Aaron Hernandez faces allegations of gun violence in suit

The alley where Bradley was found on February 13, 2013 on the asphalt, wrapped in a fetal position, sits just half a mile to the east and a mile north from the closest exit from I-95. Bradley lay in a pool of blood, his right eye lost, in a gritty parking space off an industrial alley in Riviera Beach, 65 miles up Interstate 95 to the north.

According to the police report, Bradley was shot in the right temple and pleaded with the manager of an adjacent John Deere store who called 911. “Tell them to hurry,” Bradley told the store manager. “I’m gonna bleed out.”

Bradley has undergone multiple surgeries for facial reconstruction, suffers from extreme pain, and is “substantially disabled,” according to the complaint.

Bradley refused to identify his assailant when he was found in Riviera Beach or, later, at a West Palm Beach hospital. But he does in his civil action, blaming Hernandez. On Friday, Waks would not discuss why Bradley decided to name Hernandez in the complaint, which does not specify whether Bradley believes the gunshot was intentional or accidental.

The complaint states that Hernandez and Bradley were part of a group that spent the evening at Tootsie’s, and that the pair argued before they and two others began driving north toward Palm Beach.

Bradley has a prior arrest from March 2006...for...felony distribution, a charge for which he accepted a guilty plea. He ultimately served eighteen months and was released in 2007.

Bradley was arrested again on April 5, 2013 for felony third degree burglary, misdemeanor disorderly conduct, misdemeanor second degree criminal mischief, and misdemeanor third degree assault.

Alexander J. Bradley, before & after...

So it sounds like Hernandez was running with this gangster... or dealing with this dealer... and got into an argument over, what? Drugs? Price?

Hernandez shoots the guy in the head and, thinking he's going to die, drives an hour away to an industrial area and dumps the body in an alley. But the guy lived, and lost an eyes thanks to the Patriots TE.

Being the good gangster that he was, Bradley didn't snitch. Because criminals don't snitch on other criminals. Perhaps he tried to blackmail Hernandez into paying for trying to kill him? Perhaps he was just negotiating a settlement for his pain & suffering man-to-man...

Whatever, Hernandez stiffed him and Bradley was forced to hire an attorney.

“How did they end up here?” asked Paul Bencebi, manager of a printing-material shop in Riviera Beach. That’s where Bradley was discovered bleeding from the temple, curled up in a parking space behind the building about 6:30 a.m.

The site sits close to the frenetic rumbling of I-95, but feels separate and remote, a dense mixture of bland, low-rise manufacturing and commercial buildings.

“I couldn’t believe it,” said Bencebi, who had used a hose to wash away the blood. “Why here, unless they were doing something no one wants to see?”

 

[thunderkyss]

Lewis pled guilty to obstruction of justice and the murder charges were dropped. They other two guys involved in the murder case were unanimously acquitted by a jury of all charges

And the price of tea in China is.......

 

[2012Champs]

And the price of tea in China is.......

Irrelevant when you say Lewis was acquitted so I just clarified. People tend to bring up Ray and there is plenty of misinformation

 

[thunderkyss]

This gets more bizarre...
Alexander J. Bradley, before & after...

So it sounds like Hernandez was running with this gangster... or dealing with this dealer... and got into an argument over, what? Drugs? Price?

Hernandez shoots the guy in the head and, thinking he's going to die, drives an hour away to an industrial area and dumps the body in an alley. But the guy lived, and lost an eyes thanks to the Patriots TE.

I think we're talking about two different incidents. The Bradley thing happened around the SuperBowl in February..... in Florida. Bradley was left for dead.

This thing that has Hernandez in the news now is about the death of Odin Loyd, found in Rhode Island.... recently. Loyd is dead.

 

[PapaL]

In the words of the Cleveland busdriver, You going to jail now!

 

[CloakNNNdagger]

The state police have come back a couple of times today. The last time is with 2 German Shepherds.

Kevin Armstrong ‏@KevinGArmstrong 8h
State police now leash second, larger dog and enter through back of house.

Kevin Armstrong Kevin Armstrong ‏@KevinGArmstrong 8h
State police officer just came back to cruiser to get German shepherd to search inside Aaron Hernandez's house. Dog is barking loudly.

Wonder if they're looking for drugs.

 

[Playoffs]

The state police have come back a couple of times today. The last time is with 2 German Shepherds.

Wonder if they're looking for drugs.

Drugs, guns, blood, gunshot residue, the works.

Henandez's associates...
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Search dog...
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Bagged evidence...
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[chicagotexan2]

The state police have come back a couple of times today. The last time is with 2 German Shepherds.




Wonder if they're looking for drugs.

Or cadavers?

 

[CloakNNNdagger]

From the LA TIMES:

By Chuck Schilken
June 23, 2013, 5:02 a.m.



A second search of New England tight end Aaron Hernandez's home took place Saturday as part of an ongoing investigation into the death of a man whose body was found about a mile away from the North Attleboro, Mass., estate on Monday.

The search, which lasted more than three hours, involved police officers, K9 units, a locksmith and a crowbar.

It was unclear what the law enforcement officials were looking for, but they searched the home, backyard, a large playhouse and two vehicles, including a white Audi SUV driven by Hernandez, according to MassLive.com.

The website states that the officials emerged with 10 paper bags full of evidence, as well as a cardboard box.

 

[IDEXAN]

Unless I missed something, I'm beginning to think they are never gonna bust this guy ?

 

[Lucky]

Unless I missed something, I'm beginning to think they are never gonna bust this guy ?

I think you are too used to seeing murders wrapped up in an hour on CSI Wherever. It takes time to investigate and build a case in real life. It's pretty clear to me that Hernandez will be charged at some point.

 

[IDEXAN]

I think you are too used to seeing murders wrapped up in an hour on CSI Wherever. It takes time to investigate and build a case in real life. It's pretty clear to me that Hernandez will be charged at some point.

"Book 'em, Danno!"

 

[CloakNNNdagger]

"Book 'em, Danno!"

Yeh........funny how we're not hearing a peep about any of Hernandez's buddies............

 

[2012Champs]

Unless I missed something, I'm beginning to think they are never gonna bust this guy ?

Real life that's what you're missing

 

[Playoffs]

I think you are too used to seeing murders wrapped up in an hour on CSI Wherever. It takes time to investigate and build a case in real life. It's pretty clear to me that Hernandez will be charged at some point.

Yep, and looks like the small local police department wisely asked the Massachusetts State Police to come in and assist. Doubt they've handled many homicides going up against high profile, big shot lawyers. Dotting all their "i"s, crossing all their "t"s, getting their ducks in a row.

I'm wondering how they'll defend AHern? Wall of silence? Other guy did it? Suicide? Accident? Self-defense? Coach Belichick told me to destroy the video?

 

[CloakNNNdagger]

Yep, and looks like the small local police department wisely asked the Massachusetts State Police to come in and assist. Doubt they've handled many homicides going up against high profile, big shot lawyers. Dotting all their "i"s, crossing all their "t"s, getting their ducks in a row.

I'm wondering how they'll defend AHern? Wall of silence? Other guy did it? Suicide? Accident? Self-defense? Coach Belichick told me to destroy the video?

You can probably rule out suicide...........unless he used a machine gun.......

 

[Playoffs]

You can probably rule out suicide...........unless he used a machine gun.......

There is the phenomena of multiple gunshot suicide, believe or not. Johnny Cochran would have used it.

 

[CloakNNNdagger]

Overall, this has turned from a story of hope into a very sad story.

Some thoughts on the Aaron Hernandez situation: How did we get from there to here?

 

[CloakNNNdagger]

Boston free-lance reporter and TV anchor Kathryn Sotnik's Twitter:


PatriotsXLVIII PatriotsXLVIII ‏@PatriotsXLVIII 1h
Somebody's cooperating. MT @kathrynsotnik: Developing---MSP suiting up to enter body of water near Hernandez home. pic.twitter.com/EsONwZQvwd



Deep Threat Deep Threat ‏@DeeepThreat 1h
@PatriotsXLVIII Probably someone who's prints will not be on that gun.


Kenneth J Carlson Kenneth J Carlson ‏@Kjcarlson77 1h
@kathrynsotnik @ProFootballTalk if Hernandez gets convicted, I'll say it again...ESPN should create "the longest yard" as a reality show



Drew Drew ‏@DrewfromJersey 1h
@PatriotsXLVIII Sounds like the pressure got someone to chirp huh? @kathrynsotnik


PatriotsXLVIII PatriotsXLVIII ‏@PatriotsXLVIII 1h
@DrewfromJersey @kathrynsotnik Looks like they may have gotten someone to chirp.


Rocky Mac Rocky Mac ‏@rockymcdonald 18m
“@kathrynsotnik: Developing---MA state police suiting up to enter a body of water near Aaron Hernandez home. @NECN pic.twitter.com/51d2qCHdB1”

 

[Rey]

Wow...

If they find the murder weapon near his home Hernandez is even dumber than I thought.

You dump the body near your home and then you also dump the murder weapon by your home?

He's serving himself up on a silver platter.

 

[HOU-TEX]

Wow...

If they find the murder weapon near his home Hernandez is even dumber than I thought.

You dump the body near your home and then you also dump the murder weapon by your home?

He's serving himself up on a silver platter.

IIRC, he wasn't the brightest candle on the cake coming out of Florida. I think he had multiple off the field issues then too.

 

[CloakNNNdagger]

IIRC, he wasn't the brightest candle on the cake coming out of Florida. I think he had multiple off the field issues then too.

It's funny because I read somewhere that he along with Percy Harvin actually were present at all of their classes and tests. Hernandez, FWIW, scored a 30 on the Wonderlic. I would say that rather thanactually being dumb, Hernandez has always seemed to do stupid things.

 

[Playoffs]

Snitch -- criminal's lingo.

If someone had spoken up sooner perhaps this man wouldn't have been murdered.


Police searching stream near Hernandez's home...

 

[HOU-TEX]

It's funny because I read somewhere that he along with Percy Harvin actually were present at all of their classes and tests. Hernandez, FWIW, scored a 30 on the Wonderlic. I would say that rather thanactually being dumb, Hernandez has always seemed to do stupid things.

Just common sense, I reckon. Some people have it, some people don't.

He's a darn good athlete. It'll be a shame if he's guilty of something. It'll be another wasted talent that we see too often.

 

[Double Barrel]

Patriots will be fine.

Probably...maybe...

Losing Welker, Gronk injured, and now Hernandez most likely out for 2013 and beyond...Captain Marvelous can only do so much without weapons.

 

[CloakNNNdagger]

From NFL.com

Massachusetts State Police set up a tent near New England Patriots tight end Aaron Hernandez's North Attleboro home Monday morning, as they searched nearby waters for evidence connected to the Odin Lloyd homicide investigation, NFL Network's Rich Hollenberg reported. At least six officers were present, with some dressed in full scuba gear and carrying metal detectors.

 

[Fred]

... I would say that rather than actually being dumb, Hernandez has always seemed to do stupid things.

On this one I'm going to have to agree with Forrest Gump's mama "Stupid is as stupid does."

 

[CloakNNNdagger]

Probably...maybe...

Losing Welker, Gronk injured, and now Hernandez most likely out for 2013 and beyond...Captain Marvelous can only do so much without weapons.

Edelman's on the bubble and hasn't yet practiced all offseason after his foot injury. And the Pat's 2 drafted WRs were injured during minicamp (2nd round and 4th round). They picked up FA WR Amendola, but last year was his only decent year, and he is a slot receiver.

Also keep in mind that Brady's 2012 touchdown percentage was his lowest since 2009. His yards per attempt were at their lowest since 2008, and his completion percentage at its lowest since 2006.

 

[Playoffs]

Losing Welker, Gronk injured, and now Hernandez most likely out for 2013 and beyond...

In effect, Belichick traded Hernandez for Welker.

..Captain Marvelous can only do so much without weapons.

Redeploy the clandestine video cameras!!!

 

[Double Barrel]

Edelman's on the bubble and hasn't yet practiced all offseason after his foot injury. And the Pat's 2 drafted WRs were injured during minicamp (2nd round and 4th round). They picked up FA WR Amendola, but last year was his only decent year, and he is a slot receiver.

Also keep in mind that Brady's 2012 touchdown percentage was his lowest since 2009. His yards per attempt were at their lowest since 2008, and his completion percentage at its lowest since 2006.

yep. And while I like Brady and have tremendous respect for his talent and career, the dude is not getting any younger. There will be a point where he is no longer "the" Tom Brady and age catches up to him.

 

[paycheck71]

In effect, Belichick traded Hernandez for Welker.

I think I disagree with this. They signed Amendola to replace Welker, so I think that's a better comparison. Hernandez' deal happened a year before that, and they still could have kept Welker if they wanted to pay him. Instead they decided to let him go and pay that money to someone else (Amendola).

 

[CloakNNNdagger]

Police find 'no evidence' in pond near home of Aaron Hernandez

Police searching a pond near the home of New England Patriots tight end Aaron Hernandez said they found “no evidence” connected to the homicide of a 27-year-old man last week.


Authorities searched the water for about an hour, disclosing to reporters only that they were looking for evidence of the crime.

One officer wore a wetsuit and carried what looked to be a metal detector into the heavily wooded area near Hernandez’s sprawling home in North Attleborough, Mass.

According to USA Today, it appeared the only item recovered was a partially deflated football.

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Legal expert: Hernandez's fame a factor for police

 

[Texan_Bill]

Police find 'no evidence' in pond near home of Aaron Hernandez



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Legal expert: Hernandez's fame a factor for police

Yeah Doc, I read this earlier. I'm not clear as to what exactly they were looking for tho'

 

[chicagotexan2]

From NFL.com

It's looking more like Hernandez might ne going into prison a Tight End and coming out a Wide Receiver.

 

[CloakNNNdagger]

Attorney Michael Fee has issued a statement attacking media reports indicating that a warrant has been issued for Hernandez’s arrest on obstruction of justice charges. Via Wesley Lowery of the Boston Globe, Fee said that Hernandez has been “the subject of a relentless flood of rumors, misinformation and false reports in the media.”

Fee added that the supposedly false reports “include repeated publication of supposedly confirmed report an arrest warrant had been issued for Aaron, a report exposed as untrue.”

“None of [the] false reports come from official sources and we appreciate the professionalism and restraint shown by the Bristol County DA,” Fee adds.

For starters, how does Fee know that the “false reports” aren’t coming from “official sources.” And precisely what is an “official source”?

While we have been careful to point out that media reports attributed to unnamed law-enforcement sources should be regarded with skepticism because the unnamed law-enforcement sources may not know the truth or may be selling an untrue version of it for strategic reasons, Fee has no way of knowing that “officials sources” (whatever they are) haven’t been spreading misinformation.

And if Fee is going to paint with a belated broad brush in disputing the various reports that have created an unflattering tapestry for Hernandez, he needs to back it up with concrete details. Does he deny that Hernandez destroyed his cell phone? Does he deny that Hernandez destroyed his home-surveillance system? Does he deny that Hernandez hired a cleaning crew to “scrub” his house the day after the murder of Odin Lloyd.

It’s not enough, at this stage of the game, to complain generally about untrue reports. Fee needs to list the reports he claims are false, and he needs to explain why they’re false.

But that won’t happen. Fee says he’ll have no further comment.

Until, of course, his next comment.

LINK

 

[steelbtexan]

What would Ray's cloths have done for the other two who were acquitted?

If you actually think that Ray Ray's missing bloody clothes/knife being wiped down didn't help in Ray/Ray's defense/other dudes, then I dont known what alternative universe you are living in.

BTW, as long as the Pats have Belichick/Brady they wont miss Hernandez. They were winning championships long before Hernandez was on the team.

People that day this is the begining of the end of the Pats dynasty are only using wishful thinking.