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What are realistic projections for DeAndre Hopkins?

infantrycak said:
This. All this system talk, etc., last year our young WR's failed when trusted. I am sorry but 40% completions is unacceptable. HC, OC, QB aren't going to keep throwing the ball to 40% options when they have 80% options.
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They didn't tale advantage of one of their best options in the passing game as much last season as they had in the past - Im talking about Foster. Really boggled my mind as to why he didn't get as many looks as he had in seasons past.
 
76Texan said:
...Schaub is going to rely on AJ, OD, Foster, and now Graham to move the chain while the Texans keep feeding the ball to the RB with Jones as the lead blocker...
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Outside of Hopkin's capabilities, my concern is whether Schaub will get comfortable finding Hopkins.
 
Corrosion said:
They didn't tale advantage of one of their best options in the passing game as much last season as they had in the past - Im talking about Foster. Really boggled my mind as to why he didn't get as many looks as he had in seasons past.
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I wondered about Foster. Still don't get it.
 
infantrycak said:
I wondered about Foster. Still don't get it.
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With how many carries he got last year they might have been trying to limit his total touches. Of course this is utter speculation and he might not have bee catching the ball that well in practice who knows.
 
Good chance though not a sure thing that eventually Hopkins will be our #1 WR depending on how his career develops and to what degree he succeeds as an NFL receiver, but in the meantime being the #2 is the ideal scenario for him with Johnson appearing to still be a very good #1 WR.
I like to compare it to what teams reportedly are planning to do with their OT picks in this years draft, including the very highest picks like Fischer in KC, Joeckel in Jacksonville, and Johnson in Philly who were all LTs in college. For atleast the first year or 2, these teams are going to play these guys at RT and then eventually move them over to the more challenging LT position.
 
b0ng said:
With how many carries he got last year they might have been trying to limit his total touches. Of course this is utter speculation and he might not have bee catching the ball that well in practice who knows.
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Did he just not go into a route?

I'd have to imagine he went out for a pass just as often as he did in previous years, Schaub either didn't have time to check it down or he found a better target.

We didn't run as many HB screens as we have in the past, I don't think. I'm sure that was part of it.
 
Off season is full of conjecture & anticipation for upcoming season, happens every summer. there may be unrealistic expectations/hopes based on many factors your pick - Kubiak tendencies, past years WR production for Texans, current state of roster, historical rookie success in the NFL, College numbers as well as scouting reports/analysis & player comparisons. Back to Hakeem Nicks who I followed & was my favorite WR in College back in 09. Comparing him to Hopkins is quite the compliment in my book. So color me guilty of high expectations, like Texan Chick (good article) been extremely impressed with his work ethic & attitude something you need to see in camp to verify.

Let me flash another angle based off his College production @ Clemson were he played with a higher rated & probable future early, maybe top 10 WR in teammate Sammy Watkins. All DeAndre did was assert himself, the #2 WR on this club with 82 receptions, 1405 yards, 17.3 avg. per catch & 18 TD's. Watkins caught 57 balls, 708 yards, 12.42 avg. per catch & 3 TD's. We all would love to see that kinda of production from Hopkins for the Texans but don't expect Andre Johnson, unless injured, to drop off his game like Watkins still it does provide an example that DeAndre is capable of being the teams #1 WR option if so used.

Hence I consider my expectations of 55/800/17/7 well within reasonable certainty based off values coming into the NFL fitting on roster, in this system with Gary Kubiak as his head coach. FWIW

BL :wesmantexanfan:
 
b0ng said:
With how many carries he got last year they might have been trying to limit his total touches. Of course this is utter speculation and he might not have bee catching the ball that well in practice who knows.
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I thought that had come up during the season.

But also, going just from memory and feeling, he dropped a lot of balls last year that he normally would have caught in previous years. And when he drops a ball, it usually kills a drive because it's on a 3rd down where he gets the ball around the line of scrimmage and is expected to do his thing to get to the first down marker.

In previous years, he caught those things and broke them. Last year, not so much.
 
infantrycak said:
I wondered about Foster. Still don't get it.
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Things I heard talk about this:

1. He already was getting a lot of touches, so an attempt to limit.

2. He did some uncustomary drops at bad times.

3. Some of the targets that would have otherwise gone to Foster went to James Casey instead. That likely won't happen this year.

4. Think teams are very much keying on Foster because Foster. Makes it harder to slip out, surprise anyone.
 
infantrycak said:
This. All this system talk, etc., last year our young WR's failed when trusted. I am sorry but 40% completions is unacceptable. HC, OC, QB aren't going to keep throwing the ball to 40% options when they have 80% options.
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Ding ding ding.

I think that may also be one of the reasons why when given the choice of any WR on the planet other than Austin, they went to Hopkins.

Real receiver hands. Don't matter what flash you got if you can't catch the blasted football.
 
Daniel Jeremiah thinks he will catch at least 60 passes this season:

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap10...ies-in-2013?campaign=Twitter_writers_jeremiah Houston Texans

3) DeAndre Hopkins, WR, Houston Texans: For the past 10 seasons, Andre Johnson has been as productive as just about any wide receiver in the NFL. He's caught more than 800 balls and eclipsed 11,000 receiving yards. That's quite impressive, considering he's never had a legitimate No. 2 wideout to keep opposing defenses honest. Enter Hopkins. The former Clemson receiver broke the ACC's single-season record for receiving touchdowns with 18 last fall and his combination of short-area quickness and ball skills will be a welcome addition to the Texans' passing attack. He should start right away and post 60-plus catches during his rookie campaign.
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GoCoogs said:
Daniel Jeremiah thinks he will catch at least 60 passes this season:

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap10...ies-in-2013?campaign=Twitter_writers_jeremiah Houston Texans
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I seriously need to temper my expectations with Hopkins. If someone predicted 70 receptions and 1,000+yds, I would not argue with them.

*disclaimer* I said I wouldn't argue with the prediction, but that is NOT my prediction.
My numbers from an earlier post in this thread:
44 receptions
587 yards
13.33 Avg
4 TDs

(seems a little conservative, in retrospect...)
 
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