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Bob McNair's Thoughts...

I would rather have an owner like Jerry Jones who is willing to put a foot in someones ass.

More than likely to put his foot in his own yap.

If you want someone like that turd running the ship it only takes away from your already non-existent credibility.
 
More than likely to put his foot in his own yap.

Besides, if Jerry Jones is the epitome of accountability, we should all be able to agree it's not that magic pill so many want to believe it is. It's hard enough to find the right people to lead your organization, much harder when you keep changing your mind every other year about what you want that organization to be.
 
Agreed about Jerrah

However give me an org like Chicago/SF/Sea. If things aren't working out heads roll. Look at the turnover of GMN/asst coaches, not to mention they make moves to improve their teams, player wise.

Would BoB ever have a Randy Moss on his team? Would he ever hire Pete Carroll and have Marshawn Lynch on his team? etc...

Remember when the Texans didn't have a RB? People/me were clamouring for the Texans to trade for Lynch. Lynch may be a disgusting human being, but he's one of the top 5 RB's in the NFL. All for the low cost of a 4th rd pick.

Pats traded in season for Talib, still playing with Talib starting? at the cost of a 4th rd draft pick.

Point is the teams still playing take chances on guys like this. Texans? nope, but they got a good little team. This is why I would draft a guy like Matheiu with the supp 3rd rd draft pick. He is a dynamic return guy who can be McCains replacement of play FS in a single high S look. This guy is a playmaker.

Will the Texans take a shot at a talented guy like this for example on the cheap? No way,No how, it's not the Texans way. Winning be damned.
You want a punk like Talib on Texans? Two fights with teammates, assaults a cab driver, resists arrest, gets into argument with game official, pistol whips sister's boyfriend and then 4 game suspension for taking Adderol without a prescription and that is just as a pro. You question McNair on that type guy?
http://www.boston.com/sports/footba...-aqib-talib/q2mzPSFB0ACaJQtODR0I0M/story.html
 
You want a punk like Talib on Texans? Two fights with teammates, assaults a cab driver, resists arrest, gets into argument with game official, pistol whips sister's boyfriend and then 4 game suspension for taking Adderol without a prescription and that is just as a pro. You question McNair on that type guy?
http://www.boston.com/sports/footba...-aqib-talib/q2mzPSFB0ACaJQtODR0I0M/story.html

He's a punk no doubt.

But he's still playing, sometimes to win you've got to make a deal with the devil. (Metaphor) Belichik is wiiling to make these deals. No I wouldn't want him on the Texans, but if it meant having a true SB contender every yr then the answer would be yes.
 
Lame owner, lame coach, lame QB .... next year should be exciting!

LAME ASS PoST... If you really think the Owner is lame, than you are really, REALLY missing the point. You're being extrememly foolish if you believe that, and actually a borderline "dumbass"...
 
I wonder if mcnair is watching a well coached team and a mentally tough team give NE all it can handle. If Balt goes 2-0 vs NE then the win vs Balt means nothing
 
LAME ASS PoST... If you really think the Owner is lame, than you are really, REALLY missing the point. You're being extrememly foolish if you believe that, and actually a borderline "dumbass"...

I dont see why its a lame post. He at least hit on two of three.
 
I wonder if mcnair is watching a well coached team and a mentally tough team give NE all it can handle. If Balt goes 2-0 vs NE then the win vs Balt means nothing

He's probably thinking the Texans beat the Ravens so why is it the Ravens are beating the Pats and the Pats killed the Texans . Well , championships aren't won in October .
 
He's probably thinking the Texans beat the Ravens so why is it the Ravens are beating the Pats and the Pats killed the Texans . Well , championships aren't won in October .

Amen...Wade & Kubiak need to study this film & mimic it exactly for next year because it's obvious the Ravens know how to play the Pats. It's pretty obvious we do not.
 
Amen...Wade & Kubiak need to study this film & mimic it exactly for next year because it's obvious the Ravens know how to play the Pats. It's pretty obvious we do not.

Doesn't it make you sick that the pats beat the Crap out of us twice and the ravens beat them twice. Good thing we didn't get the one seed and have Balt at home
 
Doesn't it make you sick that the pats beat the Crap out of us twice and the ravens beat them twice. Good thing we didn't get the one seed and have Balt at home

Where they lost 43-13. :koolaid:

In all seriousness, the only thing this proves is that you can't take that crappy mentality where you try to justify a team's legitimacy through results between common opponents and such.
 
I would rather have an owner like Jerry Jones who is willing to put a foot in someones ass.

You know how the FBI has created a profile for serial killers? Your posts have helped us create a profile for a horrible fan. So, thanks for embarrassing yourself week after week!
 
I would rather have an owner like Jerry Jones who is willing to put a foot in someones ass.
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Meditate on this for a while. When you think you have an adequate defense of this statement... stop... think again, and return to meditation.

If you are still believing this then:

My advice is to become a Dallas Cowboy fan for three years or so and see how you feel about it then.
 
(sigh) Two suggestions:

1. Make Yates your starter

2. return Matt Schaub to the role of BACK UP QB (as he was under dog-boy) Order restored. He's not that clutch/big game guy...and has proven it repeatedly.
 
Uneducated in the game of football owner, lame coach, lame QB .... next year should be exciting!

I fixed the first one for you because that more speaks of who Bob McNair is. Lame, no, not by a long shot. Uneducated as to how football works, yes and has admitted that he himself is learning on the job...

McNair is a business man that bought a football team, not a business man who understands the in's and out's of football operations, like the Krafts, Rooneys, Bisciotti, just to name a few, that bought a football team...

and then when you mentioned Jerry Jones being better owner, when I was in high school, was a huge Cowboy fan because I was a huge Miami Hurricane fan and Jimmy Johnson fan. Only team I got coverage on living in/around College Station was the Cowboys so when Johnson became the coach, I watched the Cowboys. Bought their gear and all and the day Jerry Jones stuck his nose where he didn't need to, only because he wanted to play with his "toy" like a spoiled kid, and Johnson left, I burned all my Cowboy gear.

Will never cheer for an owner who takes credit for something he did not build, and that is what Jones did to Johnson...
 
(sigh) Two suggestions:

1. Make Yates your starter

2. return Matt Schaub to the role of BACK UP QB (as he was under dog-boy) Order restored. He's not that clutch/big game guy...and has proven it repeatedly.

If what you suggested at #1 comes true, Texans are in worse shape than you could possibly know...
 
Q. What do you think the team needs?

A. “We need another playmaker (at receiver). We want more speed at receiver. Andre (Johnson) had a great year, but we can’t expect him to carry the load for all the receivers. If we say we’re going to run the ball better, we need to make sure we’ve got depth in our offensive line. We need more depth at linebacker. We can always use another cornerback. We don’t have a glaring weakness. We’ve got a good team, and we’re going to keep building on it.”


McLame totally blows the chance to shine the light on Marciano. :smiliepalm:

Either accept a reduced role or it's bye bye KW!
 
Either accept a reduced role & REDUCED SALARY or it's bye bye KW!

I made a needed adjustment. Hope you don't mind. I honestly hope he is just gone. I'm not sure Kubiak can get over his man love for Walter & will revert to old ways & continue to put Walter on the field while holding back the growth & development of our younger wr's. It's time to move on.
 
I get a little upset at McNair saying we need a speed guy or play maker when Plaxico Burress was there for the taking. I'm hoping we at least made a call but something tells me we were going with the status quo since everything was working out earlier on. I don't think Plax would've been dominant from the get go but I believe he would've helped us down the stretch but we were too settled on getting Keyshawn Martin and Devier Posey experience.
 
I get a little upset at McNair saying we need a speed guy or play maker when Plaxico Burress was there for the taking. I'm hoping we at least made a call but something tells me we were going with the status quo since everything was working out earlier on. I don't think Plax would've been dominant from the get go but I believe he would've helped us down the stretch but we were too settled on getting Keyshawn Martin and Devier Posey experience.

There is just something in me that says a call was never even made. I don't think Plax possesses the speed he use to, but he has decent hands & wouldve been another big physical target in the redzone which is exactly where the Texans had issues.

I don't even think Kubiak was set on getting Martin, Posey, or Jean going until it was too late. Martin made mistakes early & started losing time. Jean never got going after his knee scope & Posey did not get his limited shot until the end of the season. Walter continued to be the starter week in & week out & when Martin started failing that's when Graham started emerging. Unfortunately, he was a bit inconsistent as well. I think it's just time to give the younger guys a true shot w/ legit playing time & that means removing Walter from the equation. I truly believe that at least 1 of them could've easily produced what Walter did, 500 yrds & 2 TD's, this season had they been given legit playing time.
 
I get a little upset at McNair saying we need a speed guy or play maker when Plaxico Burress was there for the taking. I'm hoping we at least made a call but something tells me we were going with the status quo since everything was working out earlier on. I don't think Plax would've been dominant from the get go but I believe he would've helped us down the stretch but we were too settled on getting Keyshawn Martin and Devier Posey experience.

:vincepalm: Aren't you tired of signing washed u, old wide outs? After all the failed attempts of washed up possession receivers Im ready for a big time young play maker.
 
:vincepalm: Aren't you tired of signing washed u, old wide outs? After all the failed attempts of washed up possession receivers Im ready for a big time young play maker.

If the Texans got a young speed guy , AJ would become a Boldin like WR . The problem is the defense still wouldn't have to protect against the deep ball .
 
If the Texans got a young speed guy , AJ would become a Boldin like WR . The problem is the defense still wouldn't have to protect against the deep ball .

Umm, the point of a young speedy wide out is to create the deep ball and Dre still has the ability to go deep. Even without a speedy young option we ranked middle of the pack in the league in deep passes. Add a play maker and teams have to respect the deep ball even more, but still be honest vs Foster. It would open our offense up quite a bit.

Without a good option opposite Andre he still ranked 4th in deep passes (20 and 40 plus yarders) this season amongst wide outs. So why posters think we struggle getting open deep is beyond me.

Now if you want to say Schaub sucks throwing it deep and hampers our ability to improve upon that, Im all for it.
 
Umm, the point of a young speedy wide out is to create the deep ball and Dre still has the ability to go deep. Even without a speedy young option we ranked middle of the pack in the league in deep passes. Add a play maker and teams have to respect the deep ball even more, but still be honest vs Foster. It would open our offense up quite a bit.

Without a good option opposite Andre he still ranked 4th in deep passes (20 and 40 plus yarders) this season amongst wide outs. So why posters think we struggle getting open deep is beyond me.

Now if you want to say Schaub sucks throwing it deep and hampers our ability to improve upon that, Im all for it.

The problem is...Schaub doesn't seem to have the ability to throw deep.
 
Umm, the point of a young speedy wide out is to create the deep ball and Dre still has the ability to go deep. Even without a speedy young option we ranked middle of the pack in the league in deep passes. Add a play maker and teams have to respect the deep ball even more, but still be honest vs Foster. It would open our offense up quite a bit.

Without a good option opposite Andre he still ranked 4th in deep passes (20 and 40 plus yarders) this season amongst wide outs. So why posters think we struggle getting open deep is beyond me.

Now if you want to say Schaub sucks throwing it deep and hampers our ability to improve upon that, Im all for it.

A guy like Mike Wallace or Torrey Smith wouldn't be half the threat with the Texans .
 
I'm seeing two ends of the spectrum here.

Teams that repeatedly go one & done, like the Falcons, who finally have their breakthrough. Then there are teams like the Saints who can't seem to make the play-offs, then win it all once.

We're somewhere in the middle, back to back divisional round exits. Nothing to be ashamed about.
 
I'm seeing two ends of the spectrum here.

Teams that repeatedly go one & done, like the Falcons, who finally have their breakthrough. Then there are teams like the Saints who can't seem to make the play-offs, then win it all once.

We're somewhere in the middle, back to back divisional round exits. Nothing to be ashamed about.

If you are truly a Super Bowl contender like many claim you are & like many in the organization claim they are then the Divisional Round is NOT where you expect to make your exit considering thats only 1 round past the Wild Card game. AFC Championship exit is a little more acceptable for true Super Bowl contenders IMO.

Additionally, it's not that they lost games, that happens to everyone, it's HOW they lost their games. Being outplayed, outcoached, & completely embarrassed by the true contenders is what is so disappointing. Close games that were hard fought until the end & I'm sure the skepticism would be a bit less amongst the fans & media IMO.
 
Lame owner, lame coach, lame QB .... next year should be exciting!

Lame poster, lying poster, and lame posts that suggest you could find another team like you said you would like to do a few weeks ago. The next post of yours should be very similar to this one.

Then maybe you should read more of my posts ...

Yes, maybe he'll find the one where you told someone to off themselves at Reliant. That would help your case some I'm sure. :kitten:
 
Lame owner, lame coach, lame QB .... next year should be exciting!

Change owner to gm and you hit the trifecta. McNair is just excrutiatingly patient. Its becoming a fault instead of an asset. He is also as others have said "learning on the job". I doubt he learned this slow in business. I can't hate him but it is fairly aggrivating at times.




Lame poster, lying poster, and lame posts that suggest you could find another team like you said you would like to do a few weeks ago. The next post of yours should be very similar to this one.
:includeme:
 
Change owner to gm and you hit the trifecta. McNair is just excrutiatingly patient. Its becoming a fault instead of an asset. He is also as others have said "learning on the job". I doubt he learned this slow in business. I can't hate him but it is fairly aggrivating at times.




:includeme:

Maybe you can join him in finding another team as well.


some of us actually enjoyed this season and wanted us to win in the playoffs.
 
Change owner to gm and you hit the trifecta. McNair is just excrutiatingly patient. Its becoming a fault instead of an asset. He is also as others have said "learning on the job". I doubt he learned this slow in business. I can't hate him but it is fairly aggrivating at times.




:includeme:

McNair's net worth is roughly at $1.5 B per Wiki (I didn't think to check Forbes, but is there a need?)

You don't put out an inferior product and make that much money year in and year out.
 
If someone had told me in January 2010 that Texans fans would be so bitter after a 12-4 season that won the division and won a playoff game, I would not have believed you.

In January 2010, the Texans had one winning season and no playoff history. Amazing what two years and success can bring to a fanbase...
 
Yes you can

BoB made a billion $$$$$ in a dacade and never made the playoffs.

This is the NFL it's a liscence to print $$$$$.
 
If someone had told me in January 2010 that Texans fans would be so bitter after a 12-4 season that won the division and won a playoff game, I would not have believed you.

In January 2010, the Texans had one winning season and no playoff history. Amazing what two years and success can bring to a fanbase...

I've been consistent throughout.
 
McNair's net worth is roughly at $1.5 B per Wiki (I didn't think to check Forbes, but is there a need?)

You don't put out an inferior product and make that much money year in and year out.

You're talking to a guy that called a few of us dumbasses for being happy about the Texans winning in the playoffs. He isn't going to like anything about this team until they are somehow a SB winner most likely. Nothing else will ever be good enough.

I do understand a lot of the criticisms of Mcnair. I can't stand having the guy as our owner a lot of times, but I also realize that a ton of other owners have their own issues as well. Mcnair is a nice guy that loves having longevity. He trusts Kubiak with all he has. He loves the guy and loves working with him. Mcnair seems to me like he'll always want to reward people who he feels works really hard and is dedicated to this team regardless of what their progression is to a very large extent.
 
You're talking to a guy that called a few of us dumbasses for being happy about the Texans winning in the playoffs. He isn't going to like anything about this team until they are somehow a SB winner most likely. Nothing else will ever be good enough.

I do understand a lot of the criticisms of Mcnair. I can't stand having the guy as our owner a lot of times, but I also realize that a ton of other owners have their own issues as well. Mcnair is a nice guy that loves having longevity. He trusts Kubiak with all he has. He loves the guy and loves working with him. Mcnair seems to me like he'll always want to reward people who he feels works really hard and is dedicated to this team regardless of what their progression is to a very large extent.

Tex, I would like to think that a successful businessman knows how to find good people working for him.
 
Tex, I would like to think that a successful businessman knows how to find good people working for him.

I hate when people use this line to defend Mcnair. It has no play in the NFL. What Mcnair did in other businesses has nothing to do with the NFL at all.

That's like saying that I would be greatly successful owning a car wash, because I was so successful at owning a restaurant. Different businesses and totally different dynamics. What made Mcnair successful at another business or field is most likely not going to be the same thing that will make him successful as an owner of an NFL team.

Now I'm not trying to bash Mcnair either. THere are things that I do like and appreciate about the guy. I'm just saying that I do understand a lot of the criticisms one of which being that he is way to trusting to a fault and he seems to be afraid of change at all costs. It was pretty much proven that having to get a new HC when Kubiak should have been fired a few years ago was way to traumatic for him to do and that he wanted Gary at all costs. That hasn't exactly worked out to well, but at least we're having winning seasons now and playing in the playoffs. I'll take it if that is all we're going to get for now. I have a hard time thinking that we can ever win anything with Kubiak, but he is our coach either way. I have to support him and the team.
 
I hate when people use this line to defend Mcnair. It has no play in the NFL. What Mcnair did in other businesses has nothing to do with the NFL at all.

That's like saying that I would be greatly successful owning a car wash, because I was so successful at owning a restaurant. Different businesses and totally different dynamics. What made Mcnair successful at another business or field is most likely not going to be the same thing that will make him successful as an owner of an NFL team.

Now I'm not trying to bash Mcnair either. THere are things that I do like and appreciate about the guy. I'm just saying that I do understand a lot of the criticisms one of which being that he is way to trusting to a fault and he seems to be afraid of change at all costs. It was pretty much proven that having to get a new HC when Kubiak should have been fired a few years ago was way to traumatic for him to do and that he wanted Gary at all costs. That hasn't exactly worked out to well, but at least we're having winning seasons now and playing in the playoffs. I'll take it if that is all we're going to get for now. I have a hard time thinking that we can ever win anything with Kubiak, but he is our coach either way. I have to support him and the team.
To each his own.

It's good discussing with you Tex.
Later !
 
Close games that were hard fought until the end & I'm sure the skepticism would be a bit less amongst the fans & media IMO.

Oh I think they've earned every bit of the skepticism & criticism they've been getting.
 
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