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Kansas City Chief Suicide

Thought and prayers to girlfriends and players family. Sad stuff. I read on one blog that presumption was LB Jovan Belcher.
 
Saw the same thing on deadspin a few minutes ago. Possibly in front of Crennel and Pioli after killing his girlfriend. Really weird, sad stuff. My prayers are with Chiefs nation this morning.

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What I am reading, and take this with a grain of salt, that Jovan Belcher shot and killed his girlfriend, drove to the practice facility, then shot himself.

Sad stuff.
 
From New York Post

KC Chiefs' Jovan Belcher fatally shoots girlfriend, self: reports

From ASSOCIATED PRESS
Last Updated: 12:00 PM, December 1, 2012
Posted: 11:21 AM, December 1, 2012

KANSAS CITY, Mo. — A 25-year-old Kansas City Chiefs player killed his girlfriend early Saturday, then drove to Arrowhead Stadium and turned the gun on himself, committing suicide as two team officials were confronting him, police said.

The player is Jovan Belcher, a linebacker from West Babylon, NY, according to multiple reports.

KCTV 5 says police told them coaches confronted Belcher in Arrowhead Stadium's parking lot, and while they were talking to him, as cops were arriving, he shot himself in the head.

Police spokesman Darin Snapp said authorities received a call Saturday morning from a woman who said her daughter had been shot multiple times at a residence about five miles away from the Arrowhead complex. Snapp said a call was then received from the Chiefs' practice facility.
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"About (7:50 a.m), we got a call to a residence, in regards to a shooting, on the 5400 block of Crysler Ave," Snapp told NFL.com. "We arrived and the lady there informed us that her daughter had been shot by her on-again, off-again boyfriend. The young woman was taken to a local hospital, where she died a short time later.

"At about 8:10 a.m., we received a call to the Arrowhead practice facility in regards to a black male armed with a gun in the parking lot, and he matched the description of the shooting suspect," Snapp continued. "Officers arrived, saw a black man with a gun to his head, and some Chiefs employees. As the officer got out of his car, he heard a gunshot. It appeared the individual shot himself. He was transported to a local hospital, where he was pronounced dead."

Arrowhead Stadium has been lockdown since about 8 a.m.
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Sad when I know what story I am going to be having to put together tonight at work. :vincepalm:

I will never understand what makes a human being get to this point. I have had a rough year and never in my wildest nightmares does this result ever come out.
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Tyrer
Death
This series of business misfortunes culminated on September 15, 1980 when Tyrer, the father of four, shot his wife and then committed suicide by turning the gun on himself.[1] He is survived by his four children - Tina, Brad, Stefanie, and Jason. His four grandchildren are Braden, Truman, Austin, and Luke.
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As a Chiefs fan, I'm sorry to report this isn't the first time such a tragedy has
happened to a Chiefs player & family.
 
To hell with him. Good riddance to a murderer. He saved us millions by not getting himself put in the legal system.
 
Coward. Murder suicide people are such cowards. Just skip the murder and go straight to the suicide. Should have just killed himself in a nice quiet place. Now his baby in parentless. And I feel for the Chiefs coaching staff.

Thoughts and prayers to all those affected.
 
NitroGSXR said:
To hell with him. Good riddance to a murderer. He saved us millions by not getting himself put in the legal system.
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Yankee_In_TX said:
Coward. Murder suicide people are such cowards. Just skip the murder and go straight to the suicide. Should have just killed himself in a nice quiet place. Now his baby in parentless. And I feel for the Chiefs coaching staff.

Thoughts and prayers to all those affected.
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Very much agree. Without knowing the facts, IF it was indeed a murder/suicide, man, just kill your own damned self and leave those who want to live alone.
 
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When your whole existence/legacy in this world comes down to creating pain, sorrow, misery and trauma--you're just pathetic, absolutely pathetic.

Being blessed to make it to the NFL, being a high income earner, having access to the security that comes from savings $, beautiful paid off home (presumably), nice cars and being able to be a guiding father to your child and this is how you repay society???:wadepalm:

Thanksgiving 2012 "Happy Thanksgiving from my family to yours" -Facebook picture caption
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A Bentley Continental GT similar to this was towed from the Chiefs facility. NFL network showed this decent 3 car garage, 2 story home (probably the home from the above thanksgiving 2012 pics above)
With his now 3 mo. old recently coming into this world, it would seem he had everything to live for.
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I wonder if the Texan's players will make any comments on this tragedy......so sad....
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Poor little baby without any parents. I wonder if there will be any funds to help raise her - b/c life insurance does not pay when there is suicide involved.
 
This is an extremely PAINFUL thread to read. For those of us who have had to live with the pain of a loved one commiting such a horrible act, it's very hard to read all the negative comments. After my sister killed herself, and her three children, it took YEARS of therapy for me to accept that she wasn't a coward, she truly just snapped, and reality didn't exist for her anymore. I'm not going into any detail because it brings back to many painful memories, which brings up my reason for posting on his thread at all.

It's the LIVING that has to suffer the pain, not the dead. Yes, it's easy to call this man a coward, but, no family member needs to hear that right now, nor do they want to believe their loved one could do such a horrible thing. A persons psyche can only take so much when they have to deal with such pain. Whether this man was a coward or not will always remain a matter of opinion. Just remember, it's the living that is suffering, and negative comments only intensifies the grief. The pain this family will suffer will NEVER end, so it is my prayer that God will give them the strength to get through each day, one day at a time. They have a long road ahead of them.
 
MEGA SWATT said:
Poor little baby without any parents. I wonder if there will be any funds to help raise her - b/c life insurance does not pay when there is suicide involved.
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The suicide clause generally only applies to the first two years of a life insurance policy.
 
Prayers to his personal, team and family of friends. I see this as an unexplainable tragedy and a lot of pain before and since the incident. Based on the interviews conducted on ESPN, those close to him are at a loss why he entered such a state of dispair, and there was nothing in his history to suggest he would have made that choice.
 
SheTexan said:
This is an extremely PAINFUL thread to read. For those of us who have had to live with the pain of a loved one commiting such a horrible act, it's very hard to read all the negative comments. After my sister killed herself, and her three children, it took YEARS of therapy for me to accept that she wasn't a coward, she truly just snapped, and reality didn't exist for her anymore. I'm not going into any detail because it brings back to many painful memories, which brings up my reason for posting on his thread at all.

It's the LIVING that has to suffer the pain, not the dead. Yes, it's easy to call this man a coward, but, no family member needs to hear that right now, nor do they want to believe their loved one could do such a horrible thing. A persons psyche can only take so much when they have to deal with such pain. Whether this man was a coward or not will always remain a matter of opinion. Just remember, it's the living that is suffering, and negative comments only intensifies the grief. The pain this family will suffer will NEVER end, so it is my prayer that God will give them the strength to get through each day, one day at a time. They have a long road ahead of them.
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I don't wish this on my worst enemy. Sorry for what you and your family endured.

As I said before...

I will never understand what makes a human being get to this point. And its the kid I truly weep for. He has to grow up with this legacy now, not to mention not having either parent.
 
I don't make very many blankets statemenst so I never claim that anyone who commits suicide is automatically a coward.

His act was cowardly because he did not choose the option of suicide until authorities (team officials and police) were surrounding him. in the face of taking the punishment for what was a terrible night and morning, he thought it better than to admit his sins to thank the chiefs and pull the trigger.
 
I haven't really had a chance to comment on this but I did hear about it while I was out and about doing Saturday things.....

First off, thoughts and prayers to both families & friends...

Second, I just don't understand it. This guy, an undrafted FA had actually made an impact, i.e. he made some great plays for the lowly Chiefs... WTF makes a man do this???

Truly sad.
 
MEGA SWATT said:
I wonder if the Texan's players will make any comments on this tragedy......so sad....
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Poor little baby without any parents. I wonder if there will be any funds to help raise her - b/c life insurance does not pay when there is suicide involved.
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Not true.
 
This is just too much to read and fathom.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/ap-newsalert-160958942--nfl.html

KANSAS CITY, Mo. (AP) -- It began like any other Saturday for the Kansas City Chiefs during the NFL season, their general manager and coach at work early to put final touches on this weekend's gameplan. Then they got a call to hurry to the parking lot.

The two men rushed through the glass doors of Chiefs headquarters and came face-to-face with linebacker Jovan Belcher, holding a handgun to his head.

Belcher had already killed his girlfriend and sped the short distance to Arrowhead Stadium, right past a security checkpoint guarding the entrance. Upon finding his bosses, Belcher thanked general manager Scott Pioli and head coach Romeo Crennel for giving him a chance in the NFL. Then he turned away and pulled the trigger.

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SheTexan said:
This is an extremely PAINFUL thread to read. For those of us who have had to live with the pain of a loved one commiting such a horrible act, it's very hard to read all the negative comments. After my sister killed herself, and her three children, it took YEARS of therapy for me to accept that she wasn't a coward, she truly just snapped, and reality didn't exist for her anymore. I'm not going into any detail because it brings back to many painful memories, which brings up my reason for posting on his thread at all.

It's the LIVING that has to suffer the pain, not the dead. Yes, it's easy to call this man a coward, but, no family member needs to hear that right now, nor do they want to believe their loved one could do such a horrible thing. A persons psyche can only take so much when they have to deal with such pain. Whether this man was a coward or not will always remain a matter of opinion. Just remember, it's the living that is suffering, and negative comments only intensifies the grief. The pain this family will suffer will NEVER end, so it is my prayer that God will give them the strength to get through each day, one day at a time. They have a long road ahead of them.
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Firstly, my condolences to both of the families as well as to Chiefs nation. I'm also sorry for what you had to go through SheTexan, I can only imagine what you and your family have gone through and I'm sorry for your loss.

You hit the nail on the head with the bold portion and you are absolutely correct! I have seen people that were very down to earth, religious etc etc just snap or couldn't take it anymore and chose to take their own lives.

This doesn't just happen to people with "issues" it can happen to perfectly normal people because for the most part, a person can look normal on the outside but on the inside their is so much going on its difficult to fathom.
 
SheTexan said:
This is an extremely PAINFUL thread to read. For those of us who have had to live with the pain of a loved one commiting such a horrible act, it's very hard to read all the negative comments. After my sister killed herself, and her three children, it took YEARS of therapy for me to accept that she wasn't a coward, she truly just snapped, and reality didn't exist for her anymore. I'm not going into any detail because it brings back to many painful memories, which brings up my reason for posting on his thread at all.

It's the LIVING that has to suffer the pain, not the dead. Yes, it's easy to call this man a coward, but, no family member needs to hear that right now, nor do they want to believe their loved one could do such a horrible thing. A persons psyche can only take so much when they have to deal with such pain. Whether this man was a coward or not will always remain a matter of opinion. Just remember, it's the living that is suffering, and negative comments only intensifies the grief. The pain this family will suffer will NEVER end, so it is my prayer that God will give them the strength to get through each day, one day at a time. They have a long road ahead of them.
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Thank you for sharing.

His suicide I can 'understand' as in the action of a person not doing well. It's tragic and very sad. The murder of the girlfriend and mother to his 3mth old baby, and the subsequent suicide in front of two other people, that I cannot understand.

All in all a horrible, terrible and sad story, it hurts all.

Family and friends are in my thoughts.
 
SheTexan said:
This is an extremely PAINFUL thread to read. For those of us who have had to live with the pain of a loved one commiting such a horrible act, it's very hard to read all the negative comments. After my sister killed herself, and her three children, it took YEARS of therapy for me to accept that she wasn't a coward, she truly just snapped, and reality didn't exist for her anymore. I'm not going into any detail because it brings back to many painful memories, which brings up my reason for posting on his thread at all.

It's the LIVING that has to suffer the pain, not the dead. Yes, it's easy to call this man a coward, but, no family member needs to hear that right now, nor do they want to believe their loved one could do such a horrible thing. A persons psyche can only take so much when they have to deal with such pain. Whether this man was a coward or not will always remain a matter of opinion. Just remember, it's the living that is suffering, and negative comments only intensifies the grief. The pain this family will suffer will NEVER end, so it is my prayer that God will give them the strength to get through each day, one day at a time. They have a long road ahead of them.
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Logic can be defied in the flash of an instant. Insane acts can be performed by perfectly sane people in the instant of a "perfect storm" environment.
 
Who really knows if it was a "flash act" ? Perhaps it was premeditated, an option he'd been contemplating for sometime ? We will never know will we ?
 
Brady Quinn ..... respect.

The one thing people can hopefully try to take away, I guess, is the relationships they have with people. I know when it happened, I was sitting and, in my head, thinking what I could have done differently.

When you ask someone how they are doing, do you really mean it? When you answer someone back how you are doing, are you really telling the truth?

We live in a society of social networks, with Twitter pages and Facebook, and that’s fine, but we have contact with our work associates, our family, our friends, and it seems like half the time we are more preoccupied with our phone and other things going on instead of the actual relationships that we have right in front of us. Hopefully people can learn from this and try to actually help if someone is battling something deeper on the inside than what they are revealing on a day-to-day basis.”
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What are you guys going to do for Jovan’s daughter?
“We are going to try to put together a fund for her. Obviously, without having either parent in her life now I think it is important that she understands what type of love that she should get from a family, and Jovan was part of our family. We make sure to take care of our own, so we want to try to put together a fund and we will have more information and details as to where you can go to donate, but we just want her to understand. You know, at one point in time she might have some questions in life and we want her to understand how much she is loved and not reflect back on a thing like this and look on it in a negative way. Hopefully she can understand, try to find a peace with it and move forward with her life.”
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Such a sad, sad story that words cannot express. Prayers for his entire family, teammates, fans & entire NFL family.
 
Interesting article on what happened. It seems he had issues before and if I'm reading it right, he was actually found by cops before the murder asleep in his Bentley but they let him drive home. I feel horribly for her family and for the Chiefs coaches and GM who had to watch it unfold.

http://www.kansascity.com/2012/12/04/3947425/chiefs-tried-to-help-jovan-belcher.html

Seconds after fatally shooting his longtime girlfriend, Kansas City Chiefs linebacker Jovan Belcher leaned over her in their master bathroom, said he was sorry and kissed her on the forehead.

His mother, who heard gunfire as she stood in the kitchen, rushed to her son’s bedroom and watched his remorseful goodbye.

Belcher apologized to his mother, kissed his 3-month-old daughter and fled his rented home in the 5400 block of Crysler Avenue in his Bentley
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Club officials knew about the couple’s problems. The Chiefs had provided counseling and “were bending over backward” to help, Sharp said.

But Belcher told Pioli that the assistance wasn’t enough to fix their problems and now, “It was too late.”

When another Chiefs employee arrived, Pioli told him to stay back. Meanwhile Pioli tried to persuade Belcher to lay down the weapon, Sharp said.

Belcher thanked Pioli for everything he had done for him. He asked if he and Clark Hunt would take care of his daughter.

Chiefs Head Coach Romeo Crennel and linebackers coach Gary Gibbs arrived in the parking lot and Belcher reportedly announced, “Guys, I have to do this.
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Detectives don’t know what specifically sparked the argument between the couple at home, but a friend of Perkins told The Star that the couple argued around 1 a.m. Saturday when Perkins returned home from the Trey Songz concert and drinks with friends afterward. Belcher was mad she had stayed out so late, the friend said.

Sometime later, Kansas City police talked with Belcher after finding him asleep in his Bentley on Armour Boulevard. Officers determined he was able to drive himself home. Police believe he arrived home about 7 a.m., well before a 9:30 team meeting. That’s when the yelling began.
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I just can't help but feel like to some extent the overall tragedy of this has kind of made it seem ok to a lot of people to focus on that as opposed to the fact that he first murdered his girlfriend and the mother of his baby. I get that he was messed up but he killed this woman and all I'm hearing about from most of the stories I'm seeing is how the team is pulling together and they're being a family , trying to cope with it all by pulling together. That's fine I guess but something is missing here.

What about her family? If I was one of her parents I'd be destroyed. How do you deal with his family when their son killed your daughter. Now not only do they lose a daughter but to have any kind of relationship with their granddaughter they have to continue to have a relationship with the family of the man who killed their daughter.
 
Hervoyel said:
I just can't help but feel like to some extent the overall tragedy of this has kind of made it seem ok to a lot of people to focus on that as opposed to the fact that he first murdered his girlfriend and the mother of his baby. I get that he was messed up but he killed this woman and all I'm hearing about from most of the stories I'm seeing is how the team is pulling together and they're being a family , trying to cope with it all by pulling together. That's fine I guess but something is missing here.

What about her family? If I was one of her parents I'd be destroyed. How do you deal with his family when their son killed your daughter. Now not only do they lose a daughter but to have any kind of relationship with their granddaughter they have to continue to have a relationship with the family of the man who killed their daughter.
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Been thinking this myself. Many stories are doing this whole background thing on him...small school guy done good...like the loss was this guy to suicide. The guy was a murderer who left a little girl without parents and who also left his Mom with a scene out of a horror movie. There should be more about supporting this little girl and about how a woman tragically lost her life.
 
HoustonFrog said:
Been thinking this myself. Many stories are doing this whole background thing on him...small school guy done good...like the loss was this guy to suicide. The guy was a murderer who left a little girl without parents and who also left his Mom with a scene out of a horror movie. There should be more about supporting this little girl and about how a woman tragically lost her life.
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But neither of them played pro sports so why should the media cover them? That is how it looks to me. They do not sell advertising. Very disgusting.
 
On a radio news blurb I thought I heard that Kanasa City Chiefs or NFL (actually I thought it said NFL) will provide financially for the child.
 
I agree with Herv and all about the way the press is memorializing his life.


I did think the Chiefs handled it well with a moment of silence during the game and a dedication to victims of domestic violence.
 
Hervoyel said:
Now not only do they lose a daughter but to have any kind of relationship with their granddaughter they have to continue to have a relationship with the family of the man who killed their daughter.
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You kinda make it sound like the family of Belcher is just as bad as him. They didn't kill anybody.

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As to whatever happened inside of Belcher's head to make him do what he did, I'm not going to pretend I know about any of that stuff. Coward, not a coward, snapped, lost control, temporary insanity, I don't know. All I know is what's in my mind and I have absolutely no sympathy for Belcher. He's a murderer and I'm glad the taxpayers don't have to foot the bill for his imprisonment.

I feel terrible for the child having to grow up, live her life, never knowing her parents, and eventually having to live with the knowledge of what her dad did. I feel for the parents of the mom and Belcher's parents as well. But Jovan Belcher can rot.
 
badboy said:
On a radio news blurb I thought I heard that Kanasa City Chiefs or NFL (actually I thought it said NFL) will provide financially for the child.
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You sure that it wasn't that Belcher asked Pioli if he and Clark Hunt would take care of his daughter before he shot himself?
 
Brady Quinn from above:
We are going to try to put together a fund for her.

Obviously, without having either parent in her life now I think it is important that she understands what type of love that she should get from a family, and Jovan was part of our family. We make sure to take care of our own, so we want to try to put together a fund and we will have more information and details as to where you can go to donate.

But we just want her to understand, you know, at some point in time she might have some questions in life and we want her to understand how much she is loved and not reflect back on a thing like this and look on it in a negative way. Hopefully she can understand, try to find a peace with it and move forward with her life.
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