2013 Texans Draft Needs?

[steelbtexan]

i think we resign cody. he wont demand much money we will be able to resign him but i agree that NT is still a massive need. you get another playmaker on that line and it becomes a force for the next 10 years! THINK ABOUT THAT !!!

i dont think WR is a need this season, to call posey a mistake this early i think is a little rash i would give one more year. unless one of the top WR's fall.
Im all for bringing in another TE over a WR. THe 2nd TE is a lot more important in our Offence the the 2nd WR.

everything else im with you

Cody is the glue that holds the run defense together. IMHO I shudder at the thought of Mitchell having to play NT on a regular basis. This is why I'm hoping That Rick will be able to re-sign Cody. Even if Cody re-signs NT should be high on the needs list.

If Williams or Nix is there at 32, I probably would take them. You can never have enough depth on the DL.

 

[Wolf6151]

Cody is the glue that holds the run defense together. IMHO I shudder at the thought of Mitchell having to play NT on a regular basis. This is why I'm hoping That Rick will be able to re-sign Cody. Even if Cody re-signs NT should be high on the needs list.

If Williams or Nix is there at 32, I probably would take them. You can never have enough depth on the DL.

Which Williams are you in favor of taking at #32, Sylvester Williams or Jesse Williams?

 

[beerlover]

Cody is the glue that holds the run defense together. IMHO I shudder at the thought of Mitchell having to play NT on a regular basis. This is why I'm hoping That Rick will be able to re-sign Cody. Even if Cody re-signs NT should be high on the needs list.

If Williams or Nix is there at 32, I probably would take them. You can never have enough depth on the DL.

Depth is 3rd round territory. If lucky, you not only hit need but find a perfect fit. Mike Martin was that prospect in last years draft. Selected middle of 3rd rd. by the Tennessee Titans #82nd overall. Texans passed in favor of Posey #68 & Brooks #76. What have you (they) done lately? nothing. Meanwhile my next to favorite Martin (65) has 27 tackles, 2 sacks, 3 QB pressures & 4 tackles for loss.

 

[steelbtexan]

Which Williams are you in favor of taking at #32, Sylvester Williams or Jesse Williams?

Jesse,

Speaking of Williams' Brennan Williams RT North Carolina tore his labrum. If he recovers fully he should be available in the 3rd/4th rd.

Brennan Williams reminds me of a better version of Winston. Did you get a chance to see him play? His dad is a former NFL player, so he has talent and bloodlines.

Another guy to take a look at as a late rd pick Kyle Long. Howie boy, he hasn't played much football, but he is very athletically gifted. Kyle signed as a pitcher (MLB) straight out of high school.

 

[Insideop]

Depth is 3rd round territory. If lucky, you not only hit need but find a perfect fit. Mike Martin was that prospect in last years draft. Selected middle of 3rd rd. by the Tennessee Titans #82nd overall. Texans passed in favor of Posey #68 & Brooks #76. What have you (they) done lately? nothing. Meanwhile my next to favorite Martin (65) has 27 tackles, 2 sacks, 3 QB pressures & 4 tackles for loss.

BL, that just makes me sick! I wanted the Texans to pick Martin so bad. I just knew he was going to be good and I thought he'd be perfect in Wade's system. I guess they didn't feel the same. Now, with Cody's latest injury, I hope they take an early round pick on a NT. NT has been a thin spot for awhile now IMO.

 

[beerlover]

BL, that just makes me sick! I wanted the Texans to pick Martin so bad. I just knew he was going to be good and I thought he'd be perfect in Wade's system. I guess they didn't feel the same. Now, with Cody's latest injury, I hope they take an early round pick on a NT. NT has been a thin spot for awhile now IMO.

rare miss I'm hoping

your right about NT need. our best run defender now is Watt & Barwin. First Cushing now Cody out, a bump either depth wise (Terrell McClain) or starting caliber/compete for starter minutes (Jesse Williams, Alabama or if Louis Nix or Sheldon Richardson make themselves available).

 

[Quick II Draw]

The Texans "need" Jesse Williams, but will probably ignore him due to excessive neck tats, even though he is well spoken and maintained a respectable (3.5 JUCO) GPA.

 

[badboy]

The Texans "need" Jesse Williams, but will probably ignore him due to excessive neck tats, even though he is well spoken and maintained a respectable (3.5 JUCO) GPA.

Texans have history with several players with tats. Not sure of your point?

 

[beerlover]

Texans have history with several players with tats. Not sure of your point?

He is just jokingly making the point how out of character he would be. Honestly I think we can all agree the times they are a changing.

 

[badboy]

He is just jokingly making the point how out of character he would be. Honestly I think we can all agree the times they are a changing.

Sorry, still don't get it as Texans have history of players with sleeves and all sorts of tats. Why would Jesse Williams be any different or out of character? No biggy just seemed incongruous.

 

[LikeMike]

Actually I think we will just take the bpa. Right now we don't have any glaring holes. But we could use help almost everywhere. So bpa other than the following positions:

C, FB, DE (unless we lose Smith), OLB, and I'm almost inclined to include CB here as well with KJ and JoJo... I'm sure we could replace McCain. Oh and of course no P or kicker...

So just give me the best WR, OL, QB (yes, I'd be willing to invest in the future right now), TE, HB ( not very early but we might have to replace Tate), NT, ILB, S on the board and I'll be happy.

 

[TimeKiller]

1 NT and yes, a BIG brick in the wall wouldn't be the worst thing in the world (the worst thing in the world is watching current Texan NTs get consistently blown straight off the line). Just somebody that can hold the point would be great. Making plays, stopping the run, pass rush would all be gravy lol...mmmmmm gravy....

2 WR. Andre still has it but for how long? And Walter is no spring chicken. There is no clear cut heir and this pick really churns up the depth.

3 P. Yup. I doubt the Texans go 3rd round for one but I think the need for one is...pretty obvious.

4 RG/RT. Hard to knock a line that has Schaub and Foster producing behind it but I think they could take another stab at RT, even with a few young bucks on the rise and a stellar, veteran left side.

5 CB should probably be higher but really drafting for depth. Hopefully turns out better than Brandon "Inactive" Harris.

6 RB. This team relies on the ground game, Foster is carrying a ton this year and Tate has officially spent half his career injured.

7 S. Need special teams help.

 

[beerlover]

1 NT and yes, a BIG brick in the wall wouldn't be the worst thing in the world (the worst thing in the world is watching current Texan NTs get consistently blown straight off the line). Just somebody that can hold the point would be great. Making plays, stopping the run, pass rush would all be gravy lol...mmmmmm gravy....

2 WR. Andre still has it but for how long? And Walter is no spring chicken. There is no clear cut heir and this pick really churns up the depth.

3 P. Yup. I doubt the Texans go 3rd round for one but I think the need for one is...pretty obvious.

4 RG/RT. Hard to knock a line that has Schaub and Foster producing behind it but I think they could take another stab at RT, even with a few young bucks on the rise and a stellar, veteran left side.

5 CB should probably be higher but really drafting for depth. Hopefully turns out better than Brandon "Inactive" Harris.

6 RB. This team relies on the ground game, Foster is carrying a ton this year and Tate has officially spent half his career injured.

7 S. Need special teams help.

Yes to all the above. I'm totally revamping the way I look @ NFL draft prospects for Texans. Focus more on rough diamonds @ positions where depth is a concern, fill those holes w/high ceiling (affordable starting material) high character players. It's going to be tough on Rick Smith to keep this corp group together, Mercilus could replace Barwin, Harris could replace McCain & Texans not skip a beat. Maybe they resign Cody on the cheap since he is older & often nicked but spending a high pick @ his position is a strong probability. No way Texans sign Tate long term, so using him next draft to trade up in 2nd or 3rd is another viable option. Do Texans have to get a high end TE early, no, but he sure would help this possession style offense. Cushing will return next year so ILB will not be as big of need but long term he does need a running mate, more high quality inside linebacker depth at minimum. Martin looks better & better returning kicks, would like to see Texans keep some continuity with returner, focus more on setting up blocks down field. QB would be luxury pick, maybe use one of those supplemental picks? Interior line is the only must need in my view or if one of the elite RT prospects like Wagner is still available. Texans simply have to add more talent to protect Schaub because he lacks mobility & Foster needs cleaner holes to stay healthy & productive.

 

[steelbtexan]

I'm going to be doing a mock draft soon.

The Texans need to fix the offense in the worst way. A NT is a lesser need at this point but if value is there they should take one in the 1st rd and not reach.

Needs as I see them
1.WR
2.RT
3.NT
4.OG hopefully Brooks becomes a player in his 2nd yr. Depth will still be needed.
5. RB Tate will probably be gone. I like Grimes

 

[Scooter]

right tackle is climbing up my boards. newton's not showing me any progress - if anything he looks more lost each week.

right tackle, inside linebacker, and wide receiver are my top offseason priorities. i'm still not seeing the need to go nose tackle early, that seems like a luxury more than a need.

 

[badboy]

right tackle is climbing up my boards. newton's not showing me any progress - if anything he looks more lost each week.

right tackle, inside linebacker, and wide receiver are my top offseason priorities. i'm still not seeing the need to go nose tackle early, that seems like a luxury more than a need.

I think Texans have allowed only 12 sacks with one against Bears in horrible field and weather conditions. Newton did not give up that sack. He is still making some mistakes but so are the others. Newton is going to be ok.

 

[Brandon420tx]

If there was ever a draft I'd advocate moving up to the middle of the first (or earlier) or the beginning of the second to get multiple big time prospects, it's this one. It seems like our team only need a few more pieces here and there

 

[beerlover]

Texans will have to address long term contracts for both JJ Watt & Brian Cushing. Then guys like Barwin, Jackson & Quin are due. Texan brass on Kirby may look genius now but their work is never done & wil have to not only make the right choices, tough choices as well plus some Luck.

Good time this off-season to resign Cushing & Barwin. After that they will need to add several complimentary players on the cheap via draft/FA.

 

[htownfan32]

Having drafted two WRs in the last draft... I don't think we're going to be drafting a 1-2 round WR. We need one, but we won't be. I don't think that's Rick Smith's m.o. and they're probably going to give Posey this free year and next year to prove himself before looking WR again, simply because they don't want to brush off such a recent draft pick as a bust so quickly.

 

[Dutchrudder]

Having drafted two WRs in the last draft... I don't think we're going to be drafting a 1-2 round WR. We need one, but we won't be. I don't think that's Rick Smith's m.o. and they're probably going to give Posey this free year and next year to prove himself before looking WR again, simply because they don't want to brush off such a recent draft pick as a bust so quickly.

No need to "brush off" Posey next year, just cut Jean or let Walter go and there's your WR spot.

We could also stand to let go of one o-lineman or RB from the 53 man roster and add another WR.

 

[badboy]

Texans will have to address long term contracts for both JJ Watt & Brian Cushing. Then guys like Barwin, Jackson & Quin are due. Texan brass on Kirby may look genius now but their work is never done & wil have to not only make the right choices, tough choices as well plus some Luck.

Good time this off-season to resign Cushing & Barwin. After that they will need to add several complimentary players on the cheap via draft/FA.

I think we will see these guys extended in their last contract year as with Schaub and Foster and Myers. Cushing 2013 & Watt 2014. I am hopeful Quin and Casey gets renewed this off season. For example, I could see Antonio Smith (turned 31 Oct '12) being extended 2-3 years lowering his base from $6m(cap $8.5m) 2014.

As Jonathan Joseph is at $7.5m for '13 & '14 he seems a primary re-do that could bring Cushing back.

Schaub at $10 m ('14) 7 $12m ('15) could also be looked at then.

For me the future moves with Kareem Jackson free agent in 2015 with Watt and Derek Newton are more interesting. Still some time off but you can bet Chris Olsen Texans cap guru is working his calculator. KJ looks like a permanent fixture and Newton is holding his own at right tackle. All three could command mucho pesos.

To add spice and intrigue, TJ Yates and Brook Reed also are FAs in 15. I think both of these could be addressed by draft picks in same scenario we find Conner Barwin this year. The new CBA could really work in team's favor as planned.

Myers could be replaced by Jones in 2014 saving $5m & $6m (2015) for Watt.

I think all our prime time free agents can be re-signed if Smith wants them.
Another reason our drafts going forward excites me.

 

[aussie_texan]

surprised no one is mentioning TE after the bears game. GG didnt offer much having to replace OD, i considered it a need before this game and the bears game reaffirmed this.

 

[Wolf6151]

surprised no one is mentioning TE after the bears game. GG didnt offer much having to replace OD, i considered it a need before this game and the bears game reaffirmed this.

I disagree, but that's what message boards like this are for. I think OD will be back next season, and so will GG. I think Casey should be a relatively inexpensive re-signing and if we do go for a TE it would probably be someone like Michael Williams from Alabama who has some pass catching ability but is mostly a blocking TE in the later rounds.

 

[dalemurphy]

While the cap will be our enemy moving forward, we will enter the 2013 draft with 4 extra picks (compensatory)... Definitely a 3rd and then at least two more picks between rounds 4 and 6, probably three...

This trend will continue. With our depth, every solid player we lose via free agency will net us a compensatory pick if we do not replace the player with a similar tiered free agent (up to 4). This heightens the importance of being responsible with contract extensions... Each bad contract will not only require a cap hit when the player is cut, but we will not receive draft pick compensation for it. Only players that play out their entire contract and are signed as free agents can net a team compensatory picks.

So, whomever we don't sign out of this group:

Barwin, Quin, McCain, Cody, Caldwell, Casey, Forsett, Dobbins (if they are offered more than about $1.25 million per year, will net the Texans an extra draft pick... However, if we cut A.Smith, W.Smith, or OD for cap room, we get zero compensation.

 

[Wolf6151]

Dale you can add Butler to that list of FA as well, right? I think he's a FA at the end of this season and highly unlikely to be re-signed. Is 4 the limit of compensatory picks?

 

[aussie_texan]

While the cap will be our enemy moving forward, we will enter the 2013 draft with 4 extra picks (compensatory)... Definitely a 3rd and then at least two more picks between rounds 4 and 6, probably three...

This trend will continue. With our depth, every solid player we lose via free agency will net us a compensatory pick if we do not replace the player with a similar tiered free agent (up to 4). This heightens the importance of being responsible with contract extensions... Each bad contract will not only require a cap hit when the player is cut, but we will not receive draft pick compensation for it. Only players that play out their entire contract and are signed as free agents can net a team compensatory picks.

So, whomever we don't sign out of this group:

Barwin, Quin, McCain, Cody, Caldwell, Casey, Forsett, Dobbins (if they are offered more than about $1.25 million per year, will net the Texans an extra draft pick... However, if we cut A.Smith, W.Smith, or OD for cap room, we get zero compensation.

i think its a lot more complex then just the 1.25 mill. the only players i think we get comp picks out of that group would be barwin and quin, the others dont get much stats and would be had fairly cheap

 

[aussie_texan]

I disagree, but that's what message boards like this are for. I think OD will be back next season, and so will GG. I think Casey should be a relatively inexpensive re-signing and if we do go for a TE it would probably be someone like Michael Williams from Alabama who has some pass catching ability but is mostly a blocking TE in the later rounds.

i agree that OD and GG will be back but i feel a better player is need then GG.
We play a lot of 2 TE sets and so my reasoning is that TE is more important to our offence then WR so i would go TE over WR

 

[beerlover]

surprised no one is mentioning TE after the bears game. GG didnt offer much having to replace OD, i considered it a need before this game and the bears game reaffirmed this.

Owen is under a controllable contract & Garret is valuable depth plus cheap so I didn't include them in context of resigning foundation players coming up on free agency.

As we've all seen if value presents itself, very few are better than Rick Smith recognizing/incorporating Tight Ends into Kubiaks offense. I think they pride themselves on finding talent in the middle rounds & turning them into very capable players. If Tyler Eifert is available 32nd he would be too tempting even for Texans to pass on, oh what he could do for Matt Schaub & company. More likely they stay in the middle rounds & add more of a inline power blocker that moves well, can block like a LT who can shade either tackle to seal off inside angles as well speed edge rushers. Three Amigos favorite is Iowa TE, CJ Fiedorowiez, 3rd rd.

 

[badboy]

I disagree, but that's what message boards like this are for. I think OD will be back next season, and so will GG. I think Casey should be a relatively inexpensive re-signing and if we do go for a TE it would probably be someone like Michael Williams from Alabama who has some pass catching ability but is mostly a blocking TE in the later rounds.

I too am watching Alabama's Williams as similar to Fiedo as a huge blocker that has soft hands but could be had probably in 5th opening up a higher pick for another position. Man I am hoping for some trade ups with our 3rd, 4th and 5th picks. If we can get a nose, WR2 and a ILB with three high picks we can fill in depth with comps.

1. WR Terrence Williams 2. (3,4,5) RB Ed Lacy 2b Nose Luis Nix (Tate) 2c (our own)QB Zac Dysert 3. comp ILB Andrew Jackson.

We could have as many as two comps in 5th & one in 6th.

 

[badboy]

Owen is under a controllable contract & Garret is valuable depth plus cheap so I didn't include them in context of resigning foundation players coming up on free agency. As we've all seen if value presents itself, very few are better than Rick Smith recognizing/incorporating Tight Ends into Kubiaks offense. I think they pride themselves on finding talent in the middle rounds & turning them into very capable players. If Tyler Eifert is available 32nd he would be too tempting even for Texans to pass on, oh what he could do for Matt Schaub & company. More likely they stay in the middle rounds & add more of a inline power blocker that moves well, can block like a LT who can shade either tackle to seal off inside angles as well speed edge rushers. Three Amigos favorite is Iowa TE, CJ Fiedorowiez, 3rd rd.

Exactly! Very well put!

 

[htownfan32]

No need to "brush off" Posey next year, just cut Jean or let Walter go and there's your WR spot.

We could also stand to let go of one o-lineman or RB from the 53 man roster and add another WR.

But if so, what kind of WR do we target? Are we looking for a smallish, speed guy in the Steve Smith mold or a bigger 6'2, 6'3 guy? The bigger guys in the upcoming draft are Keenan Allen (who won't fall to us), Justin Hunter (who may, but I see Cordarelle Patterson being there when we draft), Cordarelle Patterson himself and Da'Rick Rogers. Smaller guys would be Tavon Austin or Stedman Bailey. Assuming we draft in the 28-32 range, who would we pick up?

 

[Dutchrudder]

But if so, what kind of WR do we target? Are we looking for a smallish, speed guy in the Steve Smith mold or a bigger 6'2, 6'3 guy? The bigger guys in the upcoming draft are Keenan Allen (who won't fall to us), Justin Hunter (who may, but I see Cordarelle Patterson being there when we draft), Cordarelle Patterson himself and Da'Rick Rogers. Smaller guys would be Tavon Austin or Stedman Bailey. Assuming we draft in the 28-32 range, who would we pick up?

Yeah, I don't expect Hunter or Allen to fall to us that late, Robert Woods might, but I would rather have one of the other two if possible. We should have 11 picks this next draft, so I would take a 1st, 3rd and 5th, and move up to the late teens to grab Keenan Allen if he's there. I don't know if he will fall that far though, but he might. If not, Hunter, Woods and Williams look like good prospects, and one of them could fall to our pick. I also wouldn't mind us using our 1st on Tyler Eifert to bolster the TE position for years to come. Use a 4th to move up to the mid-20's to grab Eifert, and then use the 2nd and 3rd to move up to the early 2nd and grab Williams or Woods if they are there. That would completely reshape our offense and give Kubiak more to work with.

 

[badboy]

But if so, what kind of WR do we target? Are we looking for a smallish, speed guy in the Steve Smith mold or a bigger 6'2, 6'3 guy? The bigger guys in the upcoming draft are Keenan Allen (who won't fall to us), Justin Hunter (who may, but I see Cordarelle Patterson being there when we draft), Cordarelle Patterson himself and Da'Rick Rogers. Smaller guys would be Tavon Austin or Stedman Bailey. Assuming we draft in the 28-32 range, who would we pick up?

Just my thoughts & I have spent the last hour reviewing this position AGAIN (lol) I think Patterson comes out only if he gets a first round rating from NFL. Terrence Williams 6'2" 205 should be there 77/1431 19.6 avg. 4.49

I am just not sure Kubiak is going to add to WRs; Jean $1/2m 2013. Posier is 6'1 5/8 211 & projected 4.44 I think he's going nowhere. Martin solidifies his roster spot with returns. Walter is a solid WR2 6'3" 218 15 yd avg. He blocks downfield & that makes Gary grin. Add AJ and that's the same 5 with no second round WR beating out any imo. It's Williams in first or none.

Throw in Owen Daniels at a 900 yards pace...

 

[aussie_texan]

Just my thoughts & I have spent the last hour reviewing this position AGAIN (lol) I think Patterson comes out only if he gets a first round rating from NFL. Terrence Williams 6'2" 205 should be there 77/1431 19.6 avg. 4.49

I am just not sure Kubiak is going to add to WRs; Jean $1/2m 2013. Posier is 6'1 5/8 211 & projected 4.44 I think he's going nowhere. Martin solidifies his roster spot with returns. Walter is a solid WR2 6'3" 218 15 yd avg. He blocks downfield & that makes Gary grin. Add AJ and that's the same 5 with no second round WR beating out any imo. It's Williams in first or none.

Throw in Owen Daniels at a 900 yards pace...

right on the money!

 

[badboy]

right on the money!

We still should be able to improve our "need" positions but I agree with Beerlover's post (somewhere) that we are seeing a repeat of 2012 draft. Receivers after first round are not very appealing. I wished we could see more of Lestar Jean! The dude has AJ size & could develop into a WR1. He and martin could take stress off me. lol

As the Three Amigos have discussed, Tyler Eifert would be a stong candidate if available in first.

Did anyone else hear that A&Ms Datrone Moore has said he is returning to college next season?

 

[beerlover]

We still should be able to improve our "need" positions but I agree with Beerlover's post (somewhere) that we are seeing a repeat of 2012 draft. Receivers after first round are not very appealing. I wished we could see more of Lestar Jean! The dude has AJ size & could develop into a WR1. He and martin could take stress off me. lol

As the Three Amigos have discussed, Tyler Eifert would be a stong candidate if available in first.

Did anyone else hear that A&Ms Datrone Moore has said he is returning to college next season?

Hey, most sources I've heard indicate Damontre Moore will apply for early entry (lock first round grade). In fact he should displace Dion Jordan, Oregon, who could now be available end of 1st rd. if OLB is your cup of tea

 

[badboy]

Hey, most sources I've heard indicate Damontre Moore will apply for early entry (lock first round grade). In fact he should displace Dion Jordan, Oregon, who could now be available end of 1st rd. if OLB is your cup of tea

You know I am all over that! I either heard it on tv or maybe it was one of those trailers on ESPN but cannot track it down. I was listening to radio show last week and they were talking about Joeckel and Matthews remaining for next season as a possibility. That would sure mess up first round especially if some other players opted to do same.

 

[aussie_texan]

We still should be able to improve our "need" positions but I agree with Beerlover's post (somewhere) that we are seeing a repeat of 2012 draft. Receivers after first round are not very appealing. I wished we could see more of Lestar Jean! The dude has AJ size & could develop into a WR1. He and martin could take stress off me. lol

As the Three Amigos have discussed, Tyler Eifert would be a stong candidate if available in first.

Did anyone else hear that A&Ms Datrone Moore has said he is returning to college next season?

i think a few of you know how important i think TE is.
I think we should go with BPA at TE or NT in the first round. pretty much eifert against nix (who thanks to you guys i have been reading a lot about), jesse williams (cmon the aussie) and jenkins if he falls.

 

[badboy]

i think a few of you know how important i think TE is.
I think we should go with BPA at TE or NT in the first round. pretty much eifert against nix (who thanks to you guys i have been reading a lot about), jesse williams (cmon the aussie) and jenkins if he falls.

I love EIfert but OD is not going anywhere as on pace for 900 + yds. Casey will be resigned due to role he successfully fills. For a 3rd TE I like Mike Williams ND 6'5 272 good hands & very good blocker. Lower round than Fiedo. Besides, you don't go BPA when there is a dire need.

 

[steelbtexan]

I love EIfert but OD is not going anywhere as on pace for 900 + yds. Casey will be resigned due to role he successfully fills. For a 3rd TE I like Mike Williams ND 6'5 272 good hands & very good blocker. Lower round than Fiedo. Besides, you don't go BPA when there is a dire need.

Agreed

As long as OD is healthy TE is a low priority. IMHO

Give me a guy like Williams or Nick Kasa in td 4-7 over Fiedo in rd 2-3.

 

[Specnatz]

I love EIfert but OD is not going anywhere as on pace for 900 + yds. Casey will be resigned due to role he successfully fills. For a 3rd TE I like Mike Williams ND 6'5 272 good hands & very good blocker. Lower round than Fiedo. Besides, you don't go BPA when there is a dire need.

89 Michael Williams, TE
Alabama Crimson Tide

I think is whom you meant.

 

[htownfan32]

Can't believe I forgot about Terrance Williams. :vincepalm: And he should be available when we pick first round...
Still, I just don't see us going for that big name WR in the first round. The only time that's ever happened is with AJ, IIRC. Jacoby was what, a third rounder?

 

[Wolf6151]

Can't believe I forgot about Terrance Williams. :vincepalm: And he should be available when we pick first round...
Still, I just don't see us going for that big name WR in the first round. The only time that's ever happened is with AJ, IIRC. Jacoby was what, a third rounder?

Yes JJ was a 3rd rounder and Terrance Williams might be available to us in the 2nd, if we do some trading up and get a higher 2nd round pick. There's some good 1st round WR talent next year, quite a few QB prospects, several OT prospects, some really good DT prospects, CB's etc... and all that talent may push Williams to the 2nd round.

 

[welsh texan]

However, if we cut A.Smith, W.Smith, or OD for cap room, we get zero compensation.

Interesting that you see these as being 'bad contracts' if they get cut before time, seems like teams use contracts where they have the option to cut the guy early and save money as a tool in writing contracts.

I'd also note that only one of those names has cost us a draft pick and all 3 have played an important role in recent successes.

 

[badboy]

89 Michael Williams, TE
Alabama Crimson Tide

I think is whom you meant.

Yeah I was reviewing my notes on a new mock with emphasis on second round. I was looking at Eifert's evals and typing notes on lap top. Guess I should pay more attention. Not the first and not the last boo boo. I guarantee it.

 

[Honoring Earl 34]

There's a couple of Clemson guys who look good .

 

[badboy]

There's a couple of Clemson guys who look good .

TBH, I have not followed this team; only two that stick out to me is QB Tajih Boyd who should remain in school and Rashard Hall safety that I mocked last season but lost interest in this one.

 

[76Texan]

TBH, I have not followed this team; only two that stick out to me is QB Tajih Boyd who should remain in school and Rashard Hall safety that I mocked last season but lost interest in this one.

Both DeAndre Hopkins and Sammy Watkins should have a future in the NFL.

 

[TimeKiller]

Well after watching the Jags slice and dice them some Texans D, I've got this:

1 CORNERBACK!!! Can't have enough guys that can cover and McCain just doesn't play up to snuff. More and more the 3rd corner is less of a situational player and is on the field for multiple snaps in a row. Not to mention someone to push KJ further and take reps for resting starters. It makes sense. I wouldn't be totally opposed to getting someone like TJ McDonald and moving Quin to nickel/3rd safety duty since he kinda does that anyway.

2 RG/RT like before, it's hard to knock a line that just helped Matt Schaub into the record books. Still thinkin that right side needs a big boost and the early round is the time to do it.

3 P It was awesome watching the Jags punter boom it 60+ yards down the field every time.

4 WR I think pushing the newly created depth (Jean/Posey/Martin) with another mid round selection would do the trick. In house competition will bring the best out of all involved.

5 DT Takes a slide but I think it's appropriate. I think as long as the position isn't completely snubbed in the draft they'll be ok. Maybe someone like Sonny Harris shows up next year again.

6 RB

7 KICKER Yes I know. Bullock didn't beat out the clown we have now so I'm not sold.

 

[beerlover]

Well after watching the Jags slice and dice them some Texans D, I've got this:

1 CORNERBACK!!! Can't have enough guys that can cover and McCain just doesn't play up to snuff. More and more the 3rd corner is less of a situational player and is on the field for multiple snaps in a row. Not to mention someone to push KJ further and take reps for resting starters. It makes sense. I wouldn't be totally opposed to getting someone like TJ McDonald and moving Quin to nickel/3rd safety duty since he kinda does that anyway.

Jonathan Banks, CB, Mississippi State, 6010 186
Texans use Ben Tate to trade up to 17th pick in first round to select a top corner prospect. Used Tates original drafted slot (58th worth 320 points). Kubiak is openly frustrated with Ben & lack of availability, a change of venue my serve him well as I don't think he is happy playing second fiddle to Arian Foster. Now this would give Texans three CB's & maybe they drop Kareem more into nickle as you say McCain leaves via free agency.

2 RG/RT like before, it's hard to knock a line that just helped Matt Schaub into the record books. Still thinkin that right side needs a big boost and the early round is the time to do it.

Ricky Wagner, OT, Wisconsin, 6060 320
See Wagner in similar mold to Eric Winston. Big, smart technically sound could come into camp & win out RT position from Newton who would move back to swing tackle bumping both Butler & Gardner.

3 P It was awesome watching the Jags punter boom it 60+ yards down the field every time.

Ryan Allen, Punter, La Tech, 6020 215
Leads the nation in punting average @ 48.2 per game. Your right special teams need infusion of talent. Texans will be their 5th rd. kicker back next season, Randy Bullock giving Texan kicking game a serious boost.

4 WR I think pushing the newly created depth (Jean/Posey/Martin) with another mid round selection would do the trick. In house competition will bring the best out of all involved.

Connor Vernon, WR, Duke, 6000 200
Excellent route runner & willing blocker. Good possesion type receiver adds depth to roster & more competition.

5 DT Takes a slide but I think it's appropriate. I think as long as the position isn't completely snubbed in the draft they'll be ok. Maybe someone like Sonny Harris shows up next year again.

Dave King, DE/DT, Oklahoma, 6050 286
Houston native, to come into camp & compete with Jamison who is out for season with torn acl, Texans do need to add depth across DL a loss to anyone now would be devastating.

6 RB

Stepfan Taylor, RB, Stanford, 5-11 215
Plays bigger than he looks, a between the tackles thumper to replace Tate. Smart player with good ball production can be a bell cow, gets stronger with reps. Really impressive & big reason Stanford upset Oregon.

7 KICKER Yes I know. Bullock didn't beat out the clown we have now so I'm not sold.

Bullock will be fine, before aggravating his groin he was dominate early in camp, then began his decline due to injury. Probably bpa for position of need. Hope you didn't mind I mocked you