amazing80
Hall of Fame
Um, he DID have a cannon for a leg, I doubt people are overly depressed about this LOL, but he was a VERY good punter. Not to mention his ability to nail it in the endzone on kickoffs with ease.
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Um, he DID have a cannon for a leg, I doubt people are overly depressed about this LOL, but he was a VERY good punter. Not to mention his ability to nail it in the endzone on kickoffs with ease.
Maybe I'm missing something because I didn't read the whole thread, but were people really thinking we were gonna bring him back?
PapaL
Loose Screw
Yes
I was a little seeing as how we cant get a kickoff into the endzone consistently
Jones would have had to have been terrible, which he hasn't been. Graham hasn't been great on kickoffs, but he's not hurting the team on them either. We're kicking and punting situations are fine. Unless Hartmann can return kicks and punts he won't have a shot at being on this roster until next year.
Lurvinator11
Veteran
He's not coming back?
Yes, he was released during the pre season
PapaL
Loose Screw
You asked. I gave the obvious answer. I still think Hartmann is a better punter; regardless of how good Jones has been. We should have the best available player that we can afford on the roster. His kickoff's thru the back of the endzone helps hide deficiencies in coverage.
TheMatrix31
Hall of Fame
Meh. Who cares. Jones has been fine. Cut Hartmann.
You also have to remember he's coming off of a major knee injury so no one has any idea what kind of punter he is right now. I trust the FO to make the best decision possible for this team, and if that's Jones then I'm sure they feel like he's better right now.
PapaL
Loose Screw
It was a torn ACL. If he were punting rugby style I'd be concerned.
Wasn't he one the preseason roster? I have no doubt he'd be our P in not for this ADHD situation. Regardless he won't be on our roster anytime soon.
Kaiser Toro
Native Mod
16-0, just became more challenging.
An ACL tear is a major injury so I have my doubts he would have been 100 percent back to his old self so soon and been our punter to start the season. Jones would have been brought in anyway so the best man would have won the job. If I'm not mistaken Hartmann could have punted in the preseason some, but wasn't healthy enough to do so. The team made a decision and so far I'm satisfied with the results. He was decent last year, but he wasn't all world. I doubt he would have had any noticeable effect on the games if he was playing.
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Umm.. joke all you want, but punter is a very important position to a team as well. Lest you forget the end of the Matt Turk era... *shudders*
welsh texan
You may say I’m a dreamer but I’m not the only one
He's a great holder on Extra Points and Field Goals?
I think we may have just seen the end of a good Punter tbh, Jones is ok but he isn't a revelation in the field position game, then again, we aren't going to be that reliant on field position given how dominant we look on both sides of the ball.
TheMatrix31
Hall of Fame
Regardless of whether we're reliant on it or not, field position wins games. It IS important. I'd be clamoring for him to be coming back ASAP but Jones has been pretty good so far.
PapaL
Loose Screw
It's a major injury for a RB yes. I tore my ACL and meniscus, had surgery in September, and I'm fine...and I don't have a professional medical staff like he would have. Then again I'm only the victim of a jogging accident but still this wasn't a MacGhee type tear.
CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
HE IS ALREADY A FREE AGENT NOW. He was released by the Texans on August 27 prior to the beginning of the season.
welsh texan
You may say I’m a dreamer but I’m not the only one
ChampionTexan
Hall of Fame
Given the events of this past off-season, probably for having the nickname "Hitman".
CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
If a player is suspended BEFORE he is cut, he can serve out the suspension while he is unsigned. If he is suspended AFTER he is cut, then the suspension begins if/when he is signed. The initial 4 game suspension reduced to 3 games could have been served out while he was "unemployed," and that is why there was talk of possibly re-signing him after his suspension was served. The 8 game suspension appears to be an EXTENSION (not a new suspension) of the 3 month suspension, and therefore, he should be eligible to return anytime after that period of time if/when a team signs him.
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You're comparing your injury to a guy tearing up his knee and saying he should be fine to punt and kickoff with no problem? C'mon man! Let's put things in context here. If the Texans felt like he was a supreme talent they wouldn't have let him hit the market regardless of his suspension. I swear as fans we fall in love with the weirdest players. He isn't a Shane Lechler type of player. The guy was just ok.
PapaL
Loose Screw
Umm yeah. Having personally gone through the same injury and then some yeah I can speak towards it.
Who knows what kinda player he will become?!? All I'm saying and Marciano said is he was the best punter we had. Period! And yeah they let him walk for obvious reasons. Good Lord man, no one is saying he's the second coming. Keep an eye on him. You don't have to get butthurt if you don't agree.
Wolf
100% Texan
agree Papa.. I also remember Joe saying his 4.6 hangtime on kickoffs was unreal too
with that said. I hope things turn out for him somewhere. I have no ill feelings and will wait and see what the other 8 weeks were added on for
was he drug tested again before reinstatement?
I don't know. time will tell. but I do wish him the best where ever he goes
with that said. I hope things turn out for him somewhere. I have no ill feelings and will wait and see what the other 8 weeks were added on for
was he drug tested again before reinstatement?
I don't know. time will tell. but I do wish him the best where ever he goes
GP
Go Texans!
Yes. I think he'll get a shot here again.
If he still has the goods, it'd be smart to have him in camp in 2013.
The Pencil Neck
Hall of Fame
Yep. Me, too.
I personally don't care one way or another who punts for us as long as they get the job done. So far Jones has been just fine. Hartmann was decent last year, but I don't understand the love fest surrounding him. As far as the injury goes, the only thing I'm saying is your injury and you bouncing back is different than an athlete on the highest of levels bouncing back.
Either way, he's not on our team anymore so he's just like DeMeco, Mario, Winston, and everybody else. I wish him well, and if he happens to come back and get another opportunity I'll be hoping performs well. I won't go as far as Rey and say his career is over because he's young, but he has some major hurdles to clear first physically and otherwise.
