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OTA thread

Texans_Chick said:
When people have asked me, I've said he's the Texans rookie to watch.

He reminds me a bit like Eric Winston his rookie year--when he is with the 2s, he just looks like he should be with the 1s instead. Kind of like the Sesame Street song, "One of these things is not like the others." He's just beastly looking.
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"Massive physical freak" is the correct description, per Mayock.
 
Stephanie Stradley ‏@StephStradley
Despite lose your hat wind gusts, #Texans offense/QBs looked better today. Nice catches from Jean, Holliday, Posey in particular

Kubiak: Young receivers show flashes, but a bit fatigued. Something to work on. #TexansOTA

Kubiak in his quotes today talks some of conditioning levels of rookie WRs. On field commentary to players on subject was, uh, colorful.
 
Playoffs said:
Stephanie Stradley ‏@StephStradley
Despite lose your hat wind gusts, #Texans offense/QBs looked better today. Nice catches from Jean, Holliday, Posey in particular

Kubiak: Young receivers show flashes, but a bit fatigued. Something to work on. #TexansOTA

Kubiak in his quotes today talks some of conditioning levels of rookie WRs. On field commentary to players on subject was, uh, colorful.
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That scares me. All low round picks and UDFA yet they come into camp unprepared?
 
DX-TEX said:
That scares me. All low round picks and UDFA yet they come into camp unprepared?
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Posey and Martin weren't low round picks I don't think...

Mid round picks is what I'd call them...

And this is the third day of OTA's with a day off in between. I wouldn't worry too much about it, they'll get in shape.
 
Rey said:
Posey and Martin weren't low round picks I don't think...

Mid round picks is what I'd call them...

And this is the third day of OTA's with a day off in between. I wouldn't worry too much about it, they'll get in shape.
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I question the motivation of anyone drafted 3rd round or later comin in out of shape.
 
DX-TEX said:
I question the motivation of anyone drafted 3rd round or later comin in out of shape.
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I don't know if it's that they're out of shape or if it's just that they're not really used to working out in this Houston climate.


Hard to imagine all of the young guys are out of shape.
 
Rey said:
I don't know if it's that they're out of shape or if it's just that they're not really used to working out in this Houston climate.


Hard to imagine all of the young guys are out of shape.
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Yea I'm guessing the heat is playing a big factor out there.
 
TimeKiller said:
Playing in Michigan and Ohio is toooooooootally different than playing in Tejas.
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When the Dynamo came to Houston from San Jose , they had a real hard time playing in the heat / humidity . Having lived in Houston for 49 years I can tell you the only way to prepare for running up and down the field is to do it .
 
This Houston heat will either make um or break um. I bet some of them HATE Houston right about now!:) Doubtful they had a clue how HOT and humid it can get here. BUT, they are very lucky they have Reliant to play in.
 
It's not like we're in the middle of the Sahara desert. If they can't make it through a TC in Houston because of the climate they weren't long for the NFL anyway.
 
TimeKiller said:
Did you really just google that for me? Lol....damn bro. Did you know that I've already been outside today?
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No. It was a referance to the people saying the weather here is different than Ohio. I go on a vacation I look for the weather on where I am going. These kids are going to their new employer for an extended period of time and they dont kow what the weather will be like?
 
DX-TEX said:
No. It was a referance to the people saying the weather here is different than Ohio. I go on a vacation I look for the weather on where I am going. These kids are going to their new employer for an extended period of time and they dont kow what the weather will be like?
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If you go to Cedar Point in Ohio , they think it's hot when it's 84 .
 
heck it's barely cracking 90 degrees and comfortable outside. if they're having that much trouble now, what are they going to do when summer gets here? :roast:
 
Scooter said:
heck it's barely cracking 90 degrees and comfortable outside. if they're having that much trouble now, what are they going to do when summer gets here? :roast:
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REALLY sweat!:) Although I wouldn't really call it "comfortable" if you've gotta be out in 90 heat very long. Not to bad today due to the wind, but, yesterday was a biatch!! JMO!
 
It's not just the heat, it's the humidity. It's something we go through every year. There really isn't a way to prepare yourself for it. Non-issue at this point.
 
DX-TEX said:
No. It was a referance to the people saying the weather here is different than Ohio. I go on a vacation I look for the weather on where I am going. These kids are going to their new employer for an extended period of time and they dont kow what the weather will be like?
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There is difference between knowing the weather and being in the weather.
 
Allstar said:
It's not just the heat, it's the humidity. It's something we go through every year. There really isn't a way to prepare yourself for it. Non-issue at this point.
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You hit the nail on the head here. I know guys who played at Arizona that tell me all the time the heat here is different. Even though the temperature says it's hotter there the humidity in Houston takes some getting used to.

If it's training camp and the same problem is still going on then there may be a problem, but expecting these guys to be in football shape after 3 days is ridiculous.
 
ObsiWan said:
Oh it's MILD right now. Wait until July.
:roast:
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And then it really begins to chill in August & September! :kitten:

I just remember JJ Megawatt last year saying something to the effect of practicing here being the first time he could "feel the air". Gotta think, all these guys are going through the same thing. They'll get used to it but it ain't gonna happen in a 3 day mini camp.
 
The temps at OTAs are basically the same temps they will get at training camp barring some bizarre heat wave.

OTAs start at 10:05 am. Training camp starts at 8:00 am. The start temperature for both OTAs and training camp is usually about 84 degrees and by the end of practice is usually about 88 degrees.

I always check because I am no good in the heat even just standing around--I've gotten better at it because I usually bring 4 12oz cans of La Croix with me and drink them while watching.
 
Rey said:
Posey and Martin weren't low round picks I don't think...

Mid round picks is what I'd call them...

And this is the third day of OTA's with a day off in between. I wouldn't worry too much about it, they'll get in shape.
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Nah, nothing to worry about. Just stopping them from getting big heads. Normal Kubiak speak.
 
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SheTexan said:
This Houston heat will either make um or break um. I bet some of them HATE Houston right about now!:) Doubtful they had a clue how HOT and humid it can get here. BUT, they are very lucky they have Reliant to play in.
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Position Competition: Wide Receiver
Posted by Nick Scurfield on May 26, 2012 – 12:41 pm

The Texans have a wide-open competition at wide receiver this offseason.

Beyond veteran starters Andre Johnson and Kevin Walter, there is not a single receiver on the roster who has caught an NFL pass. It’s a group that consists of five rookies and four young veterans who have played in a combined five games.

Johnson is not participating in OTAs because of recent arthroscopic surgery on his knee. That has left Walter as the elder statesman and opened the door for a lot more reps for the Texans’ young receivers.

“They’re young, I can tell you that,” Texans coach Gary Kubiak said after practice on Tuesday. “It’s exciting because we’ve got a lot of ability to work with, but obviously we’ve got a long, long way to go. It’ll be interesting to see how they sort themselves out.”

The Texans could keep five or six receivers on the active roster in the regular season. Third-round draft pick DeVier Posey and fourth-round pick Keshawn Martin should be locks to make the team.

That leaves one or two spots up for grabs among Lestar Jean, Jeff Maehl, Trindon Holliday, Juaquin Iglesias and undrafted rookies Jerrell Jackson, Dwight Jones and Mario Louis.

Jean, a promising undrafted rookie from Florida Atlantic in 2011, lined up opposite Walter with the first-team offense this week. Next week, that opportunity could possibly belong to Maehl or someone else as Johnson continues to sit out.

“It’s a great opportunity for them,” Kubiak said. “I mean, you look at (how) Lestar Jean is working as a starter right now. As a player, all you can ask for is to get on the field, and if you do it, you’re not coming off. That’s the way this thing works. I’m going to rotate them every week. I think I’ll change them up, change the depth chart and see who’s going to stand out, who’s going to help our football team. But they’re all going to get an opportunity.”

Asked about the young receivers after the final practice of the week on Thursday, Kubiak said he has seen “flashes” of talent.

“They’re all what we thought they were,” he said. “Getting a little fatigued right now. That bothers me; you’ve got to be able to run all day. Posey is out here pretty tired today. We’ve got to get those guys, condition-wise, to where they can do it all day long. But talent-wise, it’s exactly what we thought we were going to get.”The competition should for playing time – and roster spots – should only heat up in the coming weeks and months.
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CND, that article about the depth and competition at WR really scares the hell out of me. If we lose AJ again then we're screwed at WR.
 
That leaves one or two spots up for grabs among Lestar Jean, Jeff Maehl, Trindon Holliday, Juaquin Iglesias and undrafted rookies Jerrell Jackson, Dwight Jones and Mario Louis.
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So would those two spots go to Jean and Maehl? Or maybe Jean and Jones?
 
Wolf6151 said:
CND, that article about the depth and competition at WR really scares the hell out of me. If we lose AJ again then we're screwed at WR.
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We'll probably be able to pick David Anderson up off the Washington practice squad if that happens.

:D
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
Position Competition: Wide Receiver
Posted by Nick Scurfield on May 26, 2012 – 12:41 pm
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I remember a quote from Kubiak last year talking about getting the younger guys in shape so they can run all day. No reason to be alarmed...I hope.
 
powda said:
I remember a quote from Kubiak last year talking about getting the younger guys in shape so they can run all day. No reason to be alarmed...I hope.
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Got to ask oneself, after the excitement during OTAs last year, how many young receivers made it to the roster........and of those, how many produced anything?:kitten:
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
Got to ask oneself, after the excitement during OTAs last year, how many young receivers made it to the roster........and of those, how many produced anything?:kitten:
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JCTexan said:
Well, that would depend on how they impress the coaches during training camp, preseason games, practices, etc..
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Thank you for your contribution sir.

Let's just say my initial question was enough to entice further discussion for a message board, which players do you think would be likely to have an advantage based on factors outside the ones you listed?

I went with Jean and Maehl mainly because we'll most likely be carrying two spots for rookies who are starting from scratch, so it'll be good to have two young guys for the last open spots to have at least some familiarity with the offense.
 
ObsiWan said:
I'm going with Jean and D. Jones and Maehl stays alive on the practice squad for one more year. Not to be type-casting but he looks like a K.W. replacement unit.
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I don't think I've picked up any chatter on Dwight Jones yet ..... anyone?
 
TdotTexas2Step said:
Thank you for your contribution sir.

Let's just say my initial question was enough to entice further discussion for a message board, which players do you think would be likely to have an advantage based on factors outside the ones you listed?

I went with Jean and Maehl mainly because we'll most likely be carrying two spots for rookies who are starting from scratch, so it'll be good to have two young guys for the last open spots to have at least some familiarity with the offense.
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Sorry. The way you worded it made me assume you wanted a definite statement on who will make the final 53. I just misinterpreted.

As far as a guess? I will say Jean and Jones. Jean impressed during preseason games last year and I think he could end up being the #3 WR going into the regular season. Dwight Jones is built like Andre Johnson (6-4 225) and has the talent to easily beat out Maehl (imo). His character could easily get in the way of him making the team, though.
 
Playoffs said:
I don't think I've picked up any chatter on Dwight Jones yet ..... anyone?
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Looks good in just basic drills. But only has done a very few reps in teams.

Will be interesting to see if today they mix up the WR reps like Kubiak said they might.
 
“They’re all what we thought they were,” he said. “Getting a little fatigued right now. That bothers me; you’ve got to be able to run all day. Posey is out here pretty tired today. We’ve got to get those guys, condition-wise, to where they can do it all day long. But talent-wise, it’s exactly what we thought we were going to get.”
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Welcome to the NFL.
 
Nick Scurfield ‏@NickScurfield
Rookie DeVier Posey worked w/ starters today in 3WR sets. Kubiak said Lestar Jean had his best day #Texans

1h Stephanie Stradley ‏@StephStradley
The #Texans WR that were there looked sharp. Holliday and Jean had NICE catches over the top. Maehl, Martin both had some tough catches
 
Really like how Martin looks out of the slot. Very different.

He has nice acceleration out of the break, and then once he's going north south he looks like he has a different gear. Very noticeable.

Like Posey's hands. Soft. Catching the ball looks effortless.

Lots of oohs with both Jean and Hollidays' bomb catches. Jean's came from TJ, Holliday's came from Beck.
 
Texans_Chick said:
Really like how Martin looks out of the slot. Very different.

He has nice acceleration out of the break, and then once he's going north south he looks like he has a different gear. Very noticeable.

Like Posey's hands. Soft. Catching the ball looks effortless.

Lots of oohs with both Jean and Hollidays' bomb catches. Jean's came from TJ, Holliday's came from Beck.
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Glad to hear Trindon caught a long one. How was his pass catching in general TC? More completions than drops, I hope. I'd really like to see that 'lil burner make it!
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
Got to ask oneself, after the excitement during OTAs last year, how many young receivers made it to the roster........and of those, how many produced anything?:kitten:
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i agree, terrance tolliver was a stud and going to push jacoby for a roster spot last season.. where is he now.. fans get overly excited every year. reality is most of these guys will be put on the practice squad, a few standouts will contribute on special teams..
 
Premier said:
i agree, terrance tolliver was a stud and going to push jacoby for a roster spot last season.. where is he now.. fans get overly excited every year. reality is most of these guys will be put on the practice squad, a few standouts will contribute on special teams..
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I don't see what's wrong with hoping some of these guys become an Arian Foster or a Mike Brisiel or a Rod Smith or a Kurt Warner or a Priest Holmes. I don't see why it's wrong to get excited about the young players fighting on the bubble of the team's roster fighting for a spot.

If you don't want to follow these guys and root for them, fine. Go read another thread. Or, if you want to say that none of these guys are going to make it, fine... that's your opinion.

All of us know that the ceiling for most of these guys is to be some marginal special teams player.

But what if one of them hits and becomes a star? Why not get excited for some of these guys and root for them to burst out into superstars?
 
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