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Cleveland Browns Rumors: Talks for Houston Texans RB Ben Tate Surface

lol @ Trent Richardson or RG3 being a "once in a decade player".

I don't even know anything about college football and I know that much. C'mon now with this ****.

EDIT: That said, RGIII is much closer to that distinction. But in a draft with Andrew Luck, who's touted as the best QB prospect since like, Elway? No.
 
mussop said:
We will see. You want to talk a once in a decade player RG111 is that guy.
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RGIII was in a system at Baylor catering to his every ability. Let's see what this guy can do in the NFL under center with good defenses coming at him.

He's also extremely small framed and prone to injury. Ala Michael Vick.
 
triplethreat said:
RGIII was in a system at Baylor catering to his every ability. Let's see what this guy can do in the NFL under center with good defenses coming at him.

He's also extremely small framed and prone to injury. Ala Michael Vick.
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He's going to another system that'll cater to his every ability. If the Redskins surround him with talent the sky is the limit with that coaching staff bringing him along.
 
Texn4life said:
He's going to another system that'll cater to his every ability. If the Redskins surround him with talent the sky is the limit with that coaching staff bringing him along.
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Where are they going to get this talent though? They don't have a first round pick until 2015..
 
triplethreat said:
You don't think so? He's got AP written all over him. You don't see those kind of backs often.
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Remind me who has more yards from scrimmage and TDs over the last two seasons? AP or UDFA?

Yeah once a decade is probably over the top since they are within the same decade.
 
triplethreat said:
Maybe a little over the top, but Trent Richardson type RB's don't come around too often.
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Fair enough. But there is a huge difference between college ball and the NFL. Tate has proven he can be successful in the NFL. And for the record, I do not want to see him traded.
 
triplethreat said:
Where are they going to get this talent though? They don't have a first round pick until 2015..
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They signed a couple of receivers today. Garcon and Morgan will complement Santana Moss well in that offense. They have a couple of good tight ends. The biggest weakness on their team right now is offensive line. That's where they'll have to improve. But with Hightower coming back from injury and the rookie from Penn State last year running well I think they'll be improved.
 
infantrycak said:
Fair enough. But there is a huge difference between college ball and the NFL. Tate has proven he can be successful in the NFL. And for the record, I do not want to see him traded.
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That's completely fine, if I were in your shoes I wouldn't want to see him traded either. I'm just going by the reports, which I don't think are very on anyways. lol
 
TheMatrix31 said:
lol @ Trent Richardson or RG3 being a "once in a decade player".

I don't even know anything about college football and I know that much. C'mon now with this ****.

EDIT: That said, RGIII is much closer to that distinction. But in a draft with Andrew Luck, who's touted as the best QB prospect since like, Elway? No.
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Luck is over rated and RG111 is under rated. Wanna bet who will have the better career?


triplethreat said:
RGIII was in a system at Baylor catering to his every ability. Let's see what this guy can do in the NFL under center with good defenses coming at him.

He's also extremely small framed and prone to injury. Ala Michael Vick.
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I think you are getting Luck and Griffen mixed up. And what makes you say he is prone to injury?
 
Texn4life said:
They signed a couple of receivers today. Garcon and Morgan will complement Santana Moss well in that offense. They have a couple of good tight ends. The biggest weakness on their team right now is offensive line. That's where they'll have to improve. But with Hightower coming back from injury and the rookie from Penn State last year running well I think they'll be improved.
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This is what I hate about the NFL today.

Everyone just wants their first round QB's to start right away, throw them into the fire. I've NEVER been a fan of this. Let the guy sit for AT LEAST one year before you throw him out there.

That's just me though.
 
mussop said:
Luck is over rated and RG111 is under rated. Wanna bet who will have the better career?




I think you are getting Luck and Griffen mixed up. And what makes you say he is prone to injury?
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Dude's skinny as a rail.

Does your site take donations? Because I'm willing to put some money on Luck. :breakdance:
 
Texn4life said:
They signed a couple of receivers today. Garcon and Morgan will complement Santana Moss well in that offense. They have a couple of good tight ends. The biggest weakness on their team right now is offensive line. That's where they'll have to improve. But with Hightower coming back from injury and the rookie from Penn State last year running well I think they'll be improved.
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And after they sign Winston at RT they will be really improved. :kitten:
 
triplethreat said:
This is what I hate about the NFL today.

Everyone just wants their first round QB's to start right away, throw them into the fire. I've NEVER been a fan of this. Let the guy sit for AT LEAST one year before you throw him out there.

That's just me though.
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Its a recipe that's been working pretty well lately though. Of the QB's that have won Super Bowls recently only Aaron Rodgers didn't start a game within his first couple of years.
 
infantrycak said:
Remind me who has more yards from scrimmage and TDs over the last two seasons? AP or UDFA? .
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I didn't realize this but I will post it now since I looked at it - last two years:

Adrian Peterson - yards from scrimmage 2748 yds, 26 TDs.

Arian Foster - yards from scrimmage 4061 yds, 30 TDs.

I guess I am pointing this out as damn the Texans and Foster did a great job getting their deal worked out.
 
infantrycak said:
I didn't realize this but I will post it now since I looked at it - last two years:

Adrian Peterson - yards from scrimmage 2748 yds, 26 TDs.

Arian Foster - yards from scrimmage 4061 yds, 30 TDs.

I guess I am pointing this out as damn the Texans and Foster did a great job getting their deal worked out.
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If AP was playing with the Texans that number would be about 6,000...... rushing. lol
 
triplethreat said:
Dude's skinny as a rail.

Does your site take donations? Because I'm willing to put some money on Luck. :breakdance:
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Yes it does. If you are still around at the end of next year how about a small donation by the loser.

Loser will be decided by which player has the better rookie season.
 
mussop said:
And after they sign Winston at RT they will be really improved. :kitten:
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At least Griffin has the wheels to avoid pass rushers after Winston whiffs on blocks. He's good for about 1 of those a game. He'd make a nice bookend on the other side of Trent Williams though and make that running game pretty good.
 
Texn4life said:
At least Griffin has the wheels to avoid pass rushers after Winston whiffs on blocks. He's good for about 1 of those a game. He'd make a nice bookend on the other side of Trent Williams though and make that running game pretty good.
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So true!
 
triplethreat said:
Hillis is likely leaving through free agency?...
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Trade spots in the 1st 22/26

Give us your 3rd and (pick 100) 4th this yr. Or 3rd this yr and 3rd next yr. You still would probably getting the better end of the deal. Tate is a stud.
 
NO FREAKIN' WAY! We have an elite talent that is going to cost the Texans pennies for the next two years. The Texans can restrict him next year and either have a great backup or a first round pick from a team. This is not happening!
 
i'll take joe haden for tate straight up.
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I'd trade him for the right price. It'd have to be for that first rounder though. Even if we had to sweeten the deal with a later pick I would still do it.

Tate is an awesome back up, but this is the Arian show and Tate probably knows he'll likely never see a big contract with Houston. Get something for him while you still can and pick one of the talented young runners in the 3rd, 4th or 5th. Bring ward back for cheap and I'd be ok with that especially if we can use the pick to improve the team.

All that said, I'm perfectly fine with Tate coming back. Dude is a beast.
 
u know i dont know much about the Running game when it comes to the Oline i know it takes everybody but i think the Guards play the most important role when doing a running play
 
I would do it for either
1) Brown #22 pick
2) Browns second round pick (#37 overall) + conditional pick in 2013 (2nd, 3rd, or 4th) based on performance as a Brown.

Since Tate was selected #58 overall and has proven success in NFL, these two deals seem approximately fair.
 
I like Tate but would rather the Browns sign a free agent like Michael Bush. This trade rumor just does not seem like something the Browns would do.

I know the chances of Bush are slim now that he is in Arizona for a visit, but if the Browns did manage to sign him away from the Cards and add another back such as LaMichael James at the top of the 3rd round, I'd feel like we were pretty set with only expending a 3rd.

Bring back Vickers and maybe the Browns could actually run the ball again and relieve some pressure from Colt.
 
texdawg said:
I like Tate but would rather the Browns sign a free agent like Michael Bush. This trade rumor just does not seem like something the Browns would do.

I know the chances of Bush are slim now that he is in Arizona for a visit, but if the Browns did manage to sign him away from the Cards and add another back such as LaMichael James at the top of the 3rd round, I'd feel like we were pretty set with only expending a 3rd.

Bring back Vickers and maybe the Browns could actually run the ball again and relieve some pressure from Colt.
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I agree with what you say. With the crazy cuts we got so far, I'm wondering if this isn't real though. I wonder if Texans have their eyes on a FA runningback too and wouldn't mind dealing Tate.
 
We spent a 2nd on him and he's done very well for himself. The cost is absolutely NOT less than a 2nd, any offering below that should be flat out ignored.

2-2nds + conditional 3-5 pick next year.
a 2nd and switch 1sts + conditional pick
straight up for #22


They want a good player, they better be ready to give up good assets. Tate is a proven yards eater at this level. He's fast with above average burst and seeks contact when running. Was a consistent performer in the SEC before that. Dude IS a stud. Put up or shut up!!!!!
 
hot pickle said:
with arian fosters history of nagging injuries. tate stays
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Let's also not forget that Arian just got paid, so he's going to be fat and happy. We're going to need Ben's hunger to fill-in for Arian while he works to get out of his dollaz-coma this year

Then, next year, when Arian's back to his playing weight, we'll be able to trade Ben away (though I'd rather keep him, just don't think it'll happen, unless he'll be okay with being a #2 for another 4 or 5 years)
 
Dash said:
Quote:
-I have heard some rumblings recently that the Browns may explore a trade with Houston for backup running back Ben Tate. When asked about that possibility, a Texans source said, "Ha, haha, hahaha ... whew, good one, ha, ha, ha!"
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Fixed it for ya. :ahhaha:
 
It already seems as if McNair and Smith are doing bong hits with the cuts, no Texans free agents signed, and McNair stating that "we have a QB we are happy with", but if they let Tate go for anything other than Cleveland's first pick in the draft they are fools. Even for the number four overall ... I might hesitate.
 
I needed a good laugh this morning.

This has a shot of happening somewhere between no and hell no.
 
michaelm said:
Seems like the link I posted above was a reference to a very small tid bit in this story:

http://espncleveland.com/common/more.php?m=49&post_id=675
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Seems like the rumblings were proved to be only that as "league source" said he heard nothing.

-I have heard some rumblings recently that the Browns may explore a trade with Houston for backup running back Ben Tate. When asked about that possibility, a league source said, "I haven't heard anything along those lines but let's put it this way it wouldn't surprise me."

From your link
 
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