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2012 Texans Talk Mock Draft

I don't know if it's SuperMario or Dutchrudder entering the picks into the selection thread, but I have a request.

Is there any way that you could put the owner's name beside each pick so we can keep track with who made the selection? If it's a pain in the arse, don't worry about it. Just a suggestion.
 
Round 2

St. Louis (2-14) pbat488
Indianapolis (2-14) Doppelganger
Minnesota (3-13) Section516
Tampa Bay (4-12) TexansSeminole
Cleveland (4-12) Dutchrudder
Jacksonville (5-11) Hou-Tex
Washington (5-11) Aussie Texan
Carolina (6-10) Timekiller
Buffalo (6-10) Texan4Ever
Miami (6-10) RMartin65
Seattle (7-9) Ndevine7
Kansas City (7-9) Honoring Earl 34
Dallas (8-8) SteelBTexan
Philadelphia (8-8) Shaft75
New York Jets (8-8) kiwitexansfan
New England (8-8) Beerlover
San Diego (8-8) Srrono
Chicago (8-8) MistaRed
Philadelphia (8-8) Shaft75
Tennessee (9-7) Señor Stan
Cincinnati* (9-7) Kaiser Toro
Detroit* (10-6) Super Mario
Atlanta* (10-6)
Pittsburgh* (12-4) Stingray
Denver* (8-8) JCTexan
Houston* (10-6) Bah007
New Orleans* (13-3) RT22
Green Bay* (15-1) nytexan
Baltimore* (12-4) WolverineFan
San Francisco* (13-3) Rey
New England* (13-3) beerlover
New York Giants* (9-7) KMG 365
 
Anyone surprised by a player not getting drafted in the first?

Looking for 3 Huskers to get drafted this round... you better not let me down :kitten:
 
kiwitexansfan said:
Anyone surprised by a player not getting drafted in the first?

Looking for 3 Huskers to get drafted this round... you better not let me down :kitten:
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I'm surprised no one took a chance on Ryan Tannehill. Thought someone might. Maybe Pbatt will, he's an Aggie... :D

There are 4 picks before the next one for the Browns. I have one guy that I'm really hoping makes it to me, but all 4 teams ahead of me could use him too...
 
I'm starting to have some buyers remorse with Trent Richardson.

He was too talented to pass up considering there is a need there but the Jets have so many defensive holes that need plugging....
 
bah007 said:
And if you really want to delve into statistics, for all the credit Hill gets for the numbers he put up in that offense, he really did most of his damage in two games.

Against Western Carolina and Middle Tennessee he totaled 7 catches for 307 yards and 3 TDs.

In his other 11 games, all against BCS teams. He had a whopping 21 catches for 513 yards and 2 TDs.

I just don't understand why Hill gets a free pass. Randle was a more complete and productive player. He is more pro ready. He has a good size and speed combination. But Hill ran a 4.36 so all of that is moot apparently...
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You dont have to defend your pick.

Randle will be good, solid 10 yr starter. < Jordan Jefferson

Hill is a combine guy, who has the potential to be the best WR in this draft (His ceiling) Or Jacoby Jones (his floor) Give me the most pro ready WR with the least bust potential. I must be getting old. Or the Jacoby Jones project has jaded me. LOL

Personally I would've taken Kontz in the 1st and Marvin Jones in the 3rd. But I'm all on board the Rueben Randle train.

Great pick
 
bah007 said:
Everyone is entitled to their opinion about the pick. And honestly, y'all can blast me if you want to. You don't have to be nice about it. I wouldn't have volunteered to take over the team if I couldn't handle it.

As I stated before, at this spot in the draft any WR would have been a slight reach. And I had Perry rated as the highest player still on the board. I wanted Perry pretty bad but I just couldn't pass on Randle, who I see as an impact player at WR.

Considering the QB play at LSU, I would say that Randle was better than just solid this year. It is hard for a skill player to stand out when the QB can't put the ball in his hands. Randle did manage to account for over 40% of his team's receiving total (about the same rate as Hill).

Randle did manage 5 catches in his two matchups against Kirkpatrick. Not impressive by any stretch but he wasn't exactly shutout. Furthermore, bashing Randle for his performance against Alabama seems silly. Alabama was far and away the best defense in the entire country. And it's not close at all. How many NFL players do they have on that defense? And how many does LSU have on their offense? But the only matchup that matters is Randle vs Kirkpatrick? Did you watch the games? LSU's offensive line was over matched from the word go. And their QBs were even worse. What is Randle supposed to do? Line up at QB and throw the ball to himself?

Here is how Hill did against his top competition:
1 catch against David Amerson (North Carolina St)
0 catches against Chase Minnifield (Virginia)
1 catch against Brandon McGee (Miami)
2 catches against Jayron Hosley (Virginia Tech)

Not exactly a world beater. And don't even bother comparing the offensive styles. LSU only averaged 10 passing yards more per game. The difference is Georgia Tech's passing game was supported by a MUCH better rushing attack, thus taking pressure off of the QB and WRs.



I don't have a problem with this statement. The problem I have is that most of the people spouting this support Hill for the pick, and he showed even less in his college career than Randle did.
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I have yet to study Randle, and I don't want to criticize any pick either.

Just thought I throw out a couple of numbers since they were brought up:
Against a common opponent (Georgia), Randle had 2 catches for 15, Hill had 3 for 78.

No matter how bad the combination of QB at LSU were, they can't compare with Washington at Ga Tech.

If you read the Stephen Hill's thread, you can see that his lack of production had nothing to do with him or any CB defending him. It was all about poor QB play and/or pressure from the defense.
 
Dutchrudder, I sent you a PM about getting back into this mock. I'll take the Atlanta Falcons if no one else has already spoken up for them.
 
after an extremely brisk first round, the st. louis rams take a step back to see where the chips have fallen. after surveying the damage, they decide to select:

zach brown, wlb, north carolina

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after hoping one of the better WR's slips through the cracks, the rams decide to go in a different direction and select zach brown out of unc. one of the many nfl talents of the past couple of years from the unc defense, he fits directly into a weak LB corps and helps solidify one of the weaker personnel groupings on the rams roster.
 
pbat488 said:
after an extremely brisk first round, the st. louis rams take a step back to see where the chips have fallen. after surveying the damage, they decide to select:

zach brown, wlb, north carolina

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after hoping one of the better WR's slips through the cracks, the rams decide to go in a different direction and select zach brown out of unc. one of the many nfl talents of the past couple of years from the unc defense, he fits directly into a weak LB corps and helps solidify one of the weaker personnel groupings on the rams roster.
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This is the 1st pick that doesn't fill the #1 need for a team. (True BPA)

Great pick, Brown has top 10 talent.
 
Super Mario said:
Is this assuming Myers and or Brisel are gone?
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Yes and no.

I think Konz was the BPA at that point in the draft. He has the size and ability to play OC or OG. If Myers did not resign, he could play C. If Briesel did not resign, he could play OG. If both resigned he could replace Wade Smith.

So, whether or not they are signed, there is a spot for him in the starting lineup.
 
Good morning/afternoon to all of the other teams in the Texans Talk Mock draft. The DoppelColts are now ready to make our next selection.

As a struggling franchise we took a man who we thought would be a cornerstone of our franchise. While there is no certainty in this process we felt he was the best available player that fit our needs.

Going into our second round pick we decided to employ the same strategy: Best player available at a position of need. We believe we have found this young man and fully expect him to make an impact from Day 1.

One thing we were very impressed with when reviewing our game film was this young man's penchant for health. He started 40 straight games in college. Considering how violent the game is, that is pretty impressive. We were also impressed with his desire to help him team above padding his own stats. During his time in college, he has played LT, OG, and even filled in some at RT. An unselfish player to say the least.

We were also impressed with his quality of play. He is a behemoth at 6'6 333lbs, but is surprising athletic. He is known for running down field and making a key block to help his receiver or running back pick up a few extra yards. He is a powerful run blocker, and protects his QB in the passing game. We envision him sliding into OG for this season and possibly (depending on how ben Ijalana fares, moving him to RT if neccesary).

But his skills are not the reason we chose him. We chose him becuase of his heart. The man LOVES football. He is a high motor guy who plays with a mean streak within the rules of the game.

So, without any further ado, The DoppelColts are pleased to present to you our number 2 selection of the 2012 Texans Mock Draft: Mr. Kelechi Osemele!

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DoppelColts 2012 Texans Talk Mock Draft Selections
1. Andrew Luck, QB, Stanford
2. Kelechi Osemele. OG/OT, Iowa State
 
I PMd and emailed him.

2.35) Minnesota Vikings - Section516

2.36) Tampa Bay Buccaneers - TexansSeminole

2.37) Cleveland Browns - Dutchrudder

2.38) Jacksonville Jaguars - Hou-Tex

2.39) Washington Redskins - Aussie Texan

2.40) Carolina Panthers - Timekiller

2.41) Buffalo Bills - Texan4Ever

2.42) Miami Dolphins - RMartin65

2.43) Seattle Seahawks - Ndevine7

2.44) Kansas City Chiefs - Honoring Earl 34

2.45) Dallas Cowboys - SteelBTexan
 
With expected cap space, I'm looking at signing a WR or OL as a free agent to be a starter. So, expecting one of those two spots to be shored up in FA, I am going to address the defense..

The draft happened to fall into place where i can take the #1 rated safety and a top 20 prospect at a position of need..Mark Barron, S, Alabama.
 
Hah. Had him pegged. So much CB secondary to be found in the draft. Safety are all scary, just couldn't pass him up.
 
aussie_texan said:
Maybe it was just a ploy. Texans have taught me well name everyone your not interested in lol
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You should take Alshon Jeffery, I hear he's not fat any more.

Edit: thought Aussie was picking next...

PM'd TS, but he doesn't have email set up.

2.36) Tampa Bay Buccaneers - TexansSeminole -

2.37) Cleveland Browns - Dutchrudder -

2.38) Jacksonville Jaguars - Hou-Tex -

2.39) Washington Redskins - Aussie Texan -

2.40) Carolina Panthers - Timekiller -
 
Section516 said:
With expected cap space, I'm looking at signing a WR or OL as a free agent to be a starter. So, expecting one of those two spots to be shored up in FA, I am going to address the defense..

The draft happened to fall into place where i can take the #1 rated safety and a top 20 prospect at a position of need..Mark Barron, S, Alabama.
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Awesome pick!






If this was 1995.
 
The Bucs are upset that LB Brown from UNC and S Barron from Alabama are no longer on the board, but still feel confident in their selection.

The Tampa Bay Buccaneers select:

LB Vontaze Burfict, Arizona State

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Solid inside linebacker with tons of experience. The Bucs need starting caliber linebackers to fill out their roster. Burfict should be the starting ILB on day one.
 
TexansSeminole said:
The Bucs are upset that LB Brown from UNC and S Barron from Alabama are no longer on the board, but still feel confident in their selection.

The Tampa Bay Buccaneers select:

LB Vontaze Burfict, Arizona State

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Solid inside linebacker with tons of experience. The Bucs need starting caliber linebackers to fill out their roster. Burfict should be the starting ILB on day one.
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Now this is a pick I like.
 
WolverineFan said:
Million dollar body, ten cent brain. Guy is a huge character risk.
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There are some guys who play aggressive, like Cushing.

Then there are guys who play out of control, like Burfict.

Hopefully somebody can reel him in because he is talented as hell. But I agree, big time risk.

I like this pick for the Bucs. The payoff could be huge.
 
bah007 said:
There are some guys who play aggressive, like Cushing.

Then there are guys who play out of control, like Burfict.

Hopefully somebody can reel him in because he is talented as hell. But I agree, big time risk.

I like this pick for the Bucs. The payoff could be huge.
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It could be huge, but it could also be non existent. I could see a team like NE or Pittsburgh taking a flyer on a guy like him, but it seems like an unnecessary risk for a team like TB that has a ton of needs.
 
bah007 said:
There are some guys who play aggressive, like Cushing.

Then there are guys who play out of control, like Burfict.

Hopefully somebody can reel him in because he is talented as hell. But I agree, big time risk.

I like this pick for the Bucs. The payoff could be huge.
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He may be a bit of a liability in his first year, but will be much better than what they currently have on the roster. I think he will settle down and become a fixture on that defense for years to come.

Brown would obviously have been BPA at a position of need. I was really hoping he would fall to me. Barron would have replaced Sean Jones right away. The Bucs had maybe the worst safety play in the league last year.

Having said all that, the Bucs still desperately need quality linebackers even after taking Burfict.
 
WolverineFan said:
It could be huge, but it could also be non existent. I could see a team like NE or Pittsburgh taking a flyer on a guy like him, but it seems like an unnecessary risk for a team like TB that has a ton of needs.
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The Bucs MLB last year may have been the worst starting linebacker in the NFL last year.
 
TexansSeminole said:
The Bucs MLB last year may have been the worst starting linebacker in the NFL last year.
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I like Mason Foster, but he's definitely more of a WLB. He played out of position last year out of necessity. Plugging Burfict in at MLB moves him out to WLB where he's a better fit and would definitely upgrade TB's LB unit across the line.

All I'm saying is it's extremely risky to take a guy with so many red flags this high. He has a ton of talent, but you have no idea what you're going to get when you select him.
 
Thank you TexansSeminole! The Browns were hoping very much that you wouldn't pick our guy. The Browns addressed two needs with the first two picks in WR and OT, this pick will address the pass rushing need on the defensive side of the ball. With the 37th pick in the 2012 TexansTalk Mock Draft Extravaganza, the Cleveland Browns select:

Whitney Mercilus, DE out of Illinois!

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Another need addressed with a high pick for a good value! Boo yah! Mercilus only came on big this last year, but he's young, athletic and has a knack for sniffing out the play. High motor guy, gives great effort every play, and looks to be a promising pass rusher in the NFL. He certainly had trouble with double teams this year, but that goes partially to his credit that he got so much attention from the opposing O-lines. The Browns continue to build up the trenches.

Videos of him:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYofGP5oILw&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5GXgoRXJmQ&feature=related

Draft so far:
4. Justin Blackmon WR
22. Mike Adams OT
37. Whitney Mercilus DE

Next up:
2.38) Jacksonville Jaguars - Hou-Tex

2.39) Washington Redskins - Aussie Texan

2.40) Carolina Panthers - Timekiller

2.41) Buffalo Bills - Texan4Ever

2.42) Miami Dolphins - RMartin65

2.43) Seattle Seahawks - Ndevine7

2.44) Kansas City Chiefs - Honoring Earl 34

2.45) Dallas Cowboys - SteelBTexan
 
Browns having a great draft. I really think they have more to gain from staying put instead of trading away a large fortune in draft picks to get RGIII
 
Brandon420tx said:
Browns having a great draft. I really think they have more to gain from staying put instead of trading away a large fortune in draft picks to get RGIII
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I agree. Ideally though, Washington signs Peyton(Spends 1st on win-now players), Dolphins get Flynn, and the Seahawks don't trade up. Indy takes Luck, STL gets Kalil, Minny takes Claiborne, so RG3 falls to the Browns for free. I was hoping that would happen in this draft, but it didn't so I went another direction.
 
WolverineFan said:
I like Mason Foster, but he's definitely more of a WLB. He played out of position last year out of necessity. Plugging Burfict in at MLB moves him out to WLB where he's a better fit and would definitely upgrade TB's LB unit across the line.

All I'm saying is it's extremely risky to take a guy with so many red flags this high. He has a ton of talent, but you have no idea what you're going to get when you select him.
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I understand the hesitation, but you have to take risks in this game. There have been many players that have character issues in college and dominate in the NFL. Ray Lewis comes to mind. I am not saying that Burfict is Ray Lewis on the field, simply pointing out that you should never cross a guy off your list due to character concerns. And Burfict will go this high. Somebody will take the risk. This time it's the Bucs.
 
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