Poll: TJ Yates or Delhomme?

[CretorFrigg]

Would you start TJ Yates or Delhomme in the playoffs?

My first vote goes to TJ Yates. He's got more upside than Delhomme. Delhomme's shown us what he's capable of, especially during the playoffs. He's not going to radically change. He's a turnover waiting to happen.

TJ Yates is still growing as a rookie and learning. He's struggled the last few games, but he was on target and confident on the first drive against the Titans. We don't know what to expect from him, but he's got way more potential.

 

[Norg]

I hope this does not happen but this is how i see it play out


T sizzle or freaking Ravens NT CODY or someone knocks/lights tj up thus taking him out of the game Jake comes in and leads us to victory beatin the ravens

 

[Scooter]

delhomme by a mile. in a year or two i take yates, but on THIS team in THIS season, we need a game manager ... not a rookie that we have to alter the offense and routes for. anyone saying the offense doesnt change for yates is absolutely full of it.

take away potential, next season, madden, and possibilities. strip it down to the Texans' best chance of winning playoff games this season. delhomme is more capable of delivering.

 

[Marcus]

Delhomme.

Both of them are turnovers waiting to happen, but I'll take the turnover waiting to happen that has some playoff experience.

Come to think of it, Matt Schaub was a turnover waiting to happen. As a matter of fact, all NFL QBs are turnovers waiting to happen.

 

[Nitrofish]

I like Yates and commend him for what he has accomplished, but on a treacherous mountain road, (the playoffs) I would rather have an experienced bus driver who knows the route inside and out, even if he does have a few fender benders, than a wounded rookie on his first trip. I voted for Delhomme.

If you take the wait and see approach, the bus may already be off the cliff.

 

[SheTexan]

I voted TJ, simply because he's probably our future starter, but, I don't think it really matters this year. Kubiak is running the show, so we'll probably be history after next Sat. I hope I'm wrong, and the man grows some between now and then, but, just like waiting 10 yrs for my team to make the playoffs, I've waited 5 yrs for Kubes to grow as a HC! We'll see what the man is really made of next Sat. Personally, I think he'll have a noose around the neck of either QB.

 

[Scooter]

if we want to force ourselves into the superbowl, it matters this year. i think you're right that yates is the future, but apparently i have more optimism. i'm going to my first game in 2 years (season ticket holder since 04 unable to cope with the highs and lows in person) next week. damned if i'm going into it with the mindset of "well, we're working on next season" or "kubiak is going to put a strangle hold on this one ...".

the post season is what kubiak builds for. shannahan as well as any bronco will tell you that kubiak's far sighted playcalling lead to their superbowl wins. we're there. the week 1 offset bunch and week 17 split TE inside WR set may very well be combined focal points because we executed each in game situations. at the same time, he's sitting on next game's week 4 three tightend and week 13 stacked ace weak formations because of the safety matchup. the man catches a ton of hell, and if we lose it'll be a hurricane, but there's noone else i'd want calling the shots in the postseason because he has literally been setting this up all season.

 

[ObsiWan]

This is a tougher call than I thought it would be.
T.J.
+ Been in the offense longer; should know it better
+ Younger and likely a bit faster if he has to run
- Is a bit dinged up and I worry if that will affect his longer/deeper throws
- Doesn't always keep his eyes downfield when avoiding the rush

Jake
+ More playoff experience (went toe-to-toe with Brady in the 2003 SB; threw for 330+ yds, 3 TDs, no INTs)
+ Appears to keep the play alive longer than TJ by moving around in the pocket. Keeps eyes downfield while so doing
- Not here long enough to know the whole playbook. Don't want our offense any more limited than it is
- Accuracy could be a shade better; I saw a couple of balls thrown behind folks. ...but that could be rust.

I think I would give the edge to TJ just because of his additional experience in our offense. But I wouldn't be too skeerd if Jake had to come in off the bench. I'm probably alone in this but liked what I saw from Jake more than what I saw from Leinart. ...and Leinart had 1st-stringers to throw to.

 

[Kthx]

I have to go with TJ here, hes already beaten the Bengals once this year so for the next game at least I would much rather have TJ in. But Jake did come in looking halfway decent I wouldn't mind if he had to jump in for some reason at the half if things were looking bad either.

 

[SeminoleTexan]

I'd go with TJ Yates since he's been in the offense longer and during the game yesterday the announcers mentioned that he had been working on new plays and stuff during the past week. At least we know that Jake will be ready to come in if TJ happens to get hurt or gets rattled.

 

[TexCanada]

I voted TJ based on the assumption that he will be healthy and not affected by his injury. Delhomme should he the guy though if TJ is affected at all by this injury.

 

[TejasTom]

I liked what TJ did in the first drive.

 

[Porky]

Delhomme is my vote. Not that it matters.

TJ is clearly a better runner. His arm may be a tad better. He is the more experienced QB in THIS offense. He's played more games this year. All of these factors favor TJ. At this stage, he has more physical ability than Jake as well.

Delhomme is a veteran who has seen everything, and played on the biggest stage an NFL QB can. I like his deep ball better in terms of accuracy. While he can't run, I like his ability to duck and sidestep better while keeping eyes downfield. Those are vet moves. He seemed to take more intermediate targets and WR targets than TJ, who is in love with the RB's and TE's 10 yds and in. TJ rarely throws between 12-25 yds. Delhomme will and I think that helps our running game. OTOH, he was clearly pretty rusty and his accuracy was off at times.

To me, it's almost a tie until you talk about experience and experience in the playoffs trumps physical ability every time.

Schaub is clearly better than both put together imho but Matt is on crutches and it is what it is. Neither of these guys at this stage in their respective career can take this team to the SB so it's probably a moot point.

 

[Corrosion]

At this time the poll is 23-21 in favor of Yates .... Pretty close call. I cant make up my mind .... much like this poll , Im on the fence.

 

[Texanator]

Until we can get our receivers to catch the @$%^ ball, it's almost a moot point.

I like T.J., but he needs a little bit longer to understand the pros.(Toto, we're not in Kansas anymore)

Jake has the experience we need to go deep in the playoffs, even if he is a bit old.
I have to go with Jake!

On this matter, do we know for sure, just how banged up TJ got against the Tits?

 

[EllisUnit]

i'm really surprised so many people voted for Jake, this is the same titans team we beat 41-7 when schaub was healthy. Jake didnt look bad yesterday, but the kid has dont good things for us, and he has already beaten the bengals in their house. Now we play them at home, no u stay with TJ.

Dont forget a few bad passes Jake had that should of been INTs yetserday, One was a terrible throw and the CB would of had the pick 6 luckily the player had just eaten popcorn and dropped it.

 

[Lucky]

I don't want to knock Jake. It was his first game in over a year and he's been with the team for a month. But he threw what should have been a pick 6, lost a fumble, and was generally erratic. He's rusty. He did a commendable job on Sunday, considering. Still, starting Jake over TJ at this point makes no sense. And is why Kubiak will start TJ on Saturday.

 

[Texecutioner]

i'm really surprised so many people voted for Jake, this is the same titans team we beat 41-7 when schaub was healthy. Jake didnt look bad yesterday, but the kid has dont good things for us, and he has already beaten the bengals in their house. Now we play them at home, no u stay with TJ.

Dont forget a few bad passes Jake had that should of been INTs yetserday, One was a terrible throw and the CB would of had the pick 6 luckily the player had just eaten popcorn and dropped it.

You don't stay with TJ Yates because of that. Yates hasn't looked good at all.

I'm not saying it's an easy decision to go with Jake either. He's one of the last options I'd ever want to see at QB, but so is Yates right now.


We're ****ed either way, and we'll have to hope that our defense and running game can make some major plays.

 

[Lucky]

Yates hasn't looked good at all.

That's just not accurate. Yates had good moments in the Atlanta and Cincy game. He looked good in the opening drive, yesterday. And Kubiak has dialed back the playbook, especially since clinching. Not looked good "at all"? That's flat out wrong.

 

[axman40]

I would like to see Yates start in hurry up mode and force the Bengals to stay in their base defense.

 

[False Start]

Delhomme IMO. TJ has looked bad the past few weeks. Delhomme has had playoff experience, and didn't look too shabby yesterday.

Then again, TJ looked pretty good himself yesterday on that fist drive, so you never know.

 

[Playoffs]

Dance with the one that brung ya.

Invest this playoff experience into Yate's growth ... he's a Texan.

Delhomme won't be here next year.

 

[CretorFrigg]

TJ could surprise us in the playoffs.

Delhomme was sitting on his couch, watching football on Sunday like the rest of us before Rick Smith gave him a call. We know what we're going to get with him, and it's mediocrity.

 

[Joeycharp89]

Dance with the one that brung ya.

Invest this playoff experience into Yate's growth ... he's a Texan.

Delhomme won't be here next year.

I agree with this. If we can keep him I think he'd be a great replacement for Schaub down the road. Going into the Superbowl this year would be great, but I'd like to keep building on the strong base we are building, and become a consistent contender for many years to come.

 

[Marcus]

I could care less that Delhomme won't be here next year. I'm concerned about the here and now, as in this Saturday's playoff game.

 

[CretorFrigg]

I could care less that Delhomme won't be here next year. I'm concerned about the here and now, as in this Saturday's playoff game.

That's what people keep saying, but how is Delhomme better right now? He was unemployed until we signed him. He was unemployed for a reason, and it probably wasn't because he's very good.

Delhomme played well against a bad Titans team. Great. Have you seen his resume? It isn't exactly the best.

TJ could play very well for us during the playoffs, even better than Delhomme.

 

[TexanSam]

At this time the poll is 23-21 in favor of Yates .... Pretty close call. I cant make up my mind .... much like this poll , Im on the fence.

TJ Yates family and friends must have registered and all voted. It's now 51-23. Really weird to see a poll that was that so close get so lopsided that fast.

 

[Playoffs]

Done.

HoustonTexans Houston Texans
Kubiak: Yates good at preparation. Gampelan knowledge is good, quick thinker on field, sharp on gameday, handles the group well.
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HoustonTexans Houston Texans
Kubiak: If Yates can play, he's going to play. Was sharp yesterday. He's best QB for our football team.
31 minutes ago

 

[BullBlitz]

Dance with the one that brung ya.

We can't. Schaub is on injured reserve.

 

[EVOLVIST]

TJ Yates.

If it's any consolation Yates has shown progress in his completion precentage with each start: 48%, 59.1%, 63.3%, 81.3%, 100%.

After his game with 2 picks he has not thrown another pick. Of course he hasn't thrown a TD either.

If anything, it's super commendable that the Yates shows a **** ton of confidence.

Either he'll do it or he won't.

Yates' 82.6 QB rating puts him only over Flacco & Dalton out of the QBs starting in the playoffs. That's not good. But it puts him over 18 other starters in the NFL.

 

[ObsiWan]

Off topic...

how do you come up with these things

 

[Texan_Bill]

Off topic...

how do you come up with these things

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As to the original post???

 

[Playoffs]

Off topic...

MSR

 

[ObsiWan]

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As to the original post???

oh.... I have to stay on topic...?


I dunno, I'm gonna say Yates. And that's just based on the fact he's been here longer and should know more of the offense. He was 4 for 4 yesterday. ...none very long though...

I really liked the way Delhomme moved the team... but his accuracy was a tad off a couple of times that could have turned out uuug-leeee

 

[Dutchrudder]

Off topic...

how do you come up with these things

Have you not been to the team's merchandise store?

 

[2BCF]

Not to take anything away from TJ, but for me, gotta go with experience: Delhomme

 

[Texan_Bill]

oh.... I have to stay on topic...?


I dunno, I'm gonna say Yates. And that's just based on the fact he's been here longer and should know more of the offense. He was 4 for 4 yesterday. ...none very long though...

I really liked the way Delhomme moved the team... but his accuracy was a tad off a couple of times that could have turned out uuug-leeee

Yeah... **** THAT, Bungholes SUCK!!!

 

[KA4Texan]

Not to take anything away from TJ, but for me, gotta go with experience: Delhomme

IMO, THIS.

If TJ had a few years on him in the league it would easily be TJ (most likely) but right now the line is so thin choosing between the two, I wish Schaub were an option.

Regardless of who is out there I will be supporting my team over a specific QB.

 

[rush2112mn]

I think I would go with TJ....he won in Cincy and has faced that team already once.
He had a great opening drive this past Sunday. I think he is improving.
Delhomme did some good things...but had a issue with ball security.
Delhomme did have some down field throws.
If you listened to his post game comments you heard the word learn....still learning......learned so much in the past month....
So he is still trying to get aqainted with this offense.

I just think you go with TJ right now. However, if TJ struggles on Saturday I have no problem with bringing in Delhomme if things go bad for TJ.

 

[PHAROAH]

Go with TJ he knows the offense better and Andre is back so it's ride or die and if he falters early then we can go with the Vet in a pinch.

 

[dream_team]

Delhomme has basically played 3 quarters of football this season, and you guys are ready to hand him the keys in the Texans first ever playoff game?

Yates has played pretty much 5 games, as well as been with us all season, not to mention already beat this very same Bengal team.

This is a no-brainer for me. TJ!

 

[Nitrofish]

Delhomme has basically played 3 quarters of football this season, and you guys are ready to hand him the keys in the Texans first ever playoff game?

Yates has played pretty much 5 games, as well as been with us all season, not to mention already beat this very same Bengal team.

This is a no-brainer for me. TJ!

Kind of a silly argument when you consider TJ had played 0 quarters of football when we handed the keys to him. Besides you make it sound as if Delhomme is a career backup or a rookie himself. Delhomme has tons of game and playoff experience.

You might also want to keep in mind the Bengals were missing key players in their secondary when TJ carved them up during those last two drives. Allot more tape on TJ now and those missing players will be back in the lineup now.

Check out a few of the records Delhomme holds.

• Tied for most post-season road victories by a quarterback in NFL history (tied with Len Dawson, Roger Staubach, Mark Sanchez and Joe Flacco)
• Longest pass in the Super Bowl in NFL History (85 yard pass to Mushin Muhammad) (SB XXXVIII)

I think people are voting with their hearts not their head IMO, and I can understand why. Great young kid who will forever have a place in our hearts after the Falcons and Bengals games. Everyone roots for the underdog and in this case I can definitely understand why.

There is no question it is Yates that will start, but if he is not getting it done by halftime, I think Kubiak has to give him the hook.

We will see. Is it Saturday yet?!

 

[Malloy]

Hm... tough one, can't decide.

I like our rookie and love to see him get the chance. I also liked how we started throwing more than 2-yard passes once Delhomme came in.

Either way we're screwed, but since there's always a chance, I'll probably go with TJ, for the fairytale rollercoaster value alone

 

[Trail.Blazr]

Kind of a silly argument when you consider TJ had played 0 quarters of football when we handed the keys to him. Besides you make it sound as if Delhomme is a career backup or a rookie himself. Delhomme has tons of game and playoff experience.

You might also want to keep in mind the Bengals were missing key players in their secondary when TJ carved them up during those last two drives. Allot more tape on TJ now and those missing players will be back in the lineup now.

Check out a few of the records Delhomme holds.

• Tied for most post-season road victories by a quarterback in NFL history (tied with Len Dawson, Roger Staubach, Mark Sanchez and Joe Flacco)
• Longest pass in the Super Bowl in NFL History (85 yard pass to Mushin Muhammad) (SB XXXVIII)

I think people are voting with their hearts not their head IMO, and I can understand why. Great young kid who will forever have a place in our hearts after the Falcons and Bengals games. Everyone roots for the underdog and in this case I can definitely understand why.

There is no question it is Yates that will start, but if he is not getting it done by halftime, I think Kubiak has to give him the hook.

We will see. Is it Saturday yet?!

Mark Sanchez I'm in!

My big concern with Jake is based on recent history.
- He was dreadful in his last couple of seasons with Carolina
- He was ushered out of Cleveland in leiu of Colt McCoy. I'll give him a flier there, as he probably was not considered the future of that franchise.
- He's only played one game this season and looked OK, but could have looked worse... almost as he played worse than his stats would indicate.

On the flip side, when I try to look at positives of his recent history... I simply draw a blank.

I feel overall, given the options in this poll, TJ gives you more of a methodical approach on offense, while Jake is more of a Gunslinger out there for one last hoorah.

Given that TJ is way more inline with how this offense is built, I has to be TJ for me, as he's already proven that he CAN win a tough game.

I'm like tex though.... I don't have a whole lot of optimism on this team's prognosis of getting to the superbowl on the shoulders of either man.

 

[Calface4]

Is this seriously even a question?? Yates looked amazing against tennessee. On his only drive he was 4/4 with 47 yards and no INT. He converted on difficult third and long (lets not forget our 3rd down efficiency problems in the last couple games...he's only getting better). And some of you are saying that his shoulder injury might affect his play? It's his non throwing shoulder for crying out loud!!! We can just inject his shoulder with some anti-pain medication and he should be good to go. It would be a horrible mistake to go with delhomme. Stick with yates. He has been the plan all along.

 

[HOU-TEX]

Unfortunately, it's simple for me.

T.J. = Knows the entire playbook

Delhomme = Does not

Jake all but admitted he was learning a lot of plays on the fly in Sundays game. I'll take the QB who understands the system as a whole over a guy that was limited to "emergency" type plays before Sunday.

In the end, there's a chance we might win the Bengals game, but I'm not expecting to go much further.

 

[Nitrofish]

Is this seriously even a question?? Yates looked amazing against tennessee. On his only drive he was 4/4 with 47 yards and no INT. He converted on difficult third and long (lets not forget our 3rd down efficiency problems in the last couple games...he's only getting better). And some of you are saying that his shoulder injury might affect his play? It's his non throwing shoulder for crying out loud!!! We can just inject his shoulder with some anti-pain medication and he should be good to go. It would be a horrible mistake to go with delhomme. Stick with yates. He has been the plan all along.

Yeah.. just inject it... then he gets sacked again by another 300 lb nose tackle landing on him and smashing him and his injured shoulder into the turf just like against the Titans. Same way Leinart was injured.

Even an injury on a non throwing shoulder is going to effect him. The other arm is used for balance during the throwing motion. Unless you are telling me he is not going to get sacked all game, I think chances are we will see Delhomme.

Don't you think they will be after that shoulder when pass rushing? I know I would be especially after what he did to them last time.

 

[mussop]

I would like to see Yates start in hurry up mode and force the Bengals to stay in their base defense.

Not with Kubiac coaching. This is where the "offensive genius" should pull out all the stops. But I bet he goes straight vanilla.

 

[drunkcookie]

I can't vote, too tough of a decision...

I like Yates, and think he can be the future QB of this franchise in a few years if Schaub is done, but that's "in a few years"... The question is "It's the playoffs in 2012, who should start at QB for the Texans?"

I don't think that there is a cut and dry answer to the question... We're not talking a one vs. a four here, we're talking a three vs. a four, and right now, with that three only making his first NFL start a month ago tomorrow, there's no real separation between the two QBs in question, IMO... And have we really seen enough in this short time to say either way?

Then we have the four (Delhomme).. he sucked in his last gig, and was sucking the gig prior to his last one... But would the three have done any better in those situations? I doubt it...

Too tough of a call... But if i had a gun to my head, I'd go with Yates, just because he's been in the system longer and has had more time to gel with the receivers... and i don't think i'd enjoy being shot in the head...

It is very tempting to go with The Vet over The Kid, though.. Delhomme looked comfortable running the offense Sunday, and has that playoff experience and more experience period...

screw it, i'll go with The Ve *boom*

 

[Calface4]

Yeah.. just inject it... then he gets sacked again by another 300 lb nose tackle landing on him and smashing him and his injured shoulder into the turf just like against the Titans. Same way Leinart was injured.

Even an injury on a non throwing shoulder is going to effect him. The other arm is used for balance during the throwing motion. Unless you are telling me he is not going to get sacked all game, I think chances are we will see Delhomme.

Don't you think they will be after that shoulder when pass rushing? I know I would be especially after what he did to them last time.

What i am saying is that you stick with Yates even if he is a little banged up. I would feel much more comfortable starting yates who has been with this system since august rather than delhomme who has been here since december. If yates goes down then delhomme would be the "next man up". Delhomme isn't our best option! Yates is..