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Texas and Texas A&M

Lol, I'll take the COOOOGS anyday.

Or those 11-0, number 1 ranked BEARKATS. AMIRITE?!

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Nothing greater than seeing my Longhorns kick the Aggies tail in their final Big 12 game!

Have fun being stuck in mediocrity in the SEC ags.
 
Actually it doesn't matter. It appears to me that UT has decided to move on however A&M is the one bitching that they can't keep the Thanksgiving game. That game was a conference game and Aggy left the conference so they should schedule another conference game on that day. Maybe Aggy vs Commodore will an exciting match up.

As far as UT fans talking whatever about the Aggies, maybe that goes on in Houston but in Austin I see the opposite. I see a lot of "Saw'em Off" stickers on cars around here but I don't think I have ever seen an anti A&M sticker on any UT fan's car. I do see some anti OU stuff however. I think most UT fans just don't care about A&M.

BTW, I totally get it. Growing up an Oilers now Texans fan I have always hated the Cowboys and have even owned some anti Cowboys things. However I will be the first to admit outside of Houston it is a one way rivalry. Most Cowboys fans could give a flip about the Oilers and now Texans. Many even root for them. It's because neither Houston team has ever been good enough for long enough to even be noticed by the other team in the state.

It's the same with A&M. I know many UT fans that root for them when they are not playing Texas, myself included. The only teams I root for over A&M are UT of course and UH. I have always been a Cougs fan myself and personally would love to see them in the Big XII however that is another topic.

The game can't continue for the time being because the Longhorns schedule is already set. West Virginia and TCU have replaced the game slots that were filled by A&M and Mizzou. Also the non conference schedule is set through 2018. So there is no feasible way for the game to continue and it is all A&M's fault for leaving the conference due to little brother syndrome.

In fact, I don't believe the aggies would want to schedule the Longhorns after 2018 because of the already tough SEC schedule they will have. But we'll see.

Now, they can face in a Bowl game at some point before 2018.
 
The game can't continue for the time being because the Longhorns schedule is already set. West Virginia and TCU have replaced the game slots that were filled by A&M and Mizzou. Also the non conference schedule is set through 2018. So there is no feasible way for the game to continue and it is all A&M's fault for leaving the conference due to little brother syndrome.

In fact, I don't believe the aggies would want to schedule the Longhorns after 2018 because of the already tough SEC schedule they will have. But we'll see.

Now, they can face in a Bowl game at some point before 2018.

That is not true. The non-conference schedule can be changed anytime the Longhorns choose to. UT has reached settlements in the past to change their non-conference schedule, and they could do it again if they really wanted to. Hell, they could tell ATM that they have to pay the settlement to clear room on their non-conference schedule, if they want the rivalry to continue, but they won't because Deloss Dodds is petty.
 
That is not true. The non-conference schedule can be changed anytime the Longhorns choose to. UT has reached settlements in the past to change their non-conference schedule, and they could do it again if they really wanted to. Hell, they could tell ATM that they have to pay the settlement to clear room on their non-conference schedule, if they want the rivalry to continue, but they won't because Deloss Dodds is petty.

They won't do it because it's a no win scenario for UT. They don't need any more games in Texas, and they don't need to play a 500 also ran in late November every year. Best case scenario is they beat A&M and get no credit for beating a nobody. The worst case is they lose to a team that's going nowhere. It'd be like scheduling Kentucky for Turkey Day every year. Why not stick with their current non conference opponents. At least UCLA is in a conference championship game. Been what, 14 years since A&M was in one of those? It's gonna be a lot more before they are in another one.
 
Actually it doesn't matter. It appears to me that UT has decided to move on however A&M is the one bitching that they can't keep the Thanksgiving game. That game was a conference game and Aggy left the conference so they should schedule another conference game on that day. Maybe Aggy vs Commodore will an exciting match up.

As far as UT fans talking whatever about the Aggies, maybe that goes on in Houston but in Austin I see the opposite. I see a lot of "Saw'em Off" stickers on cars around here but I don't think I have ever seen an anti A&M sticker on any UT fan's car. I do see some anti OU stuff however. I think most UT fans just don't care about A&M.

BTW, I totally get it. Growing up an Oilers now Texans fan I have always hated the Cowboys and have even owned some anti Cowboys things. However I will be the first to admit outside of Houston it is a one way rivalry. Most Cowboys fans could give a flip about the Oilers and now Texans. Many even root for them. It's because neither Houston team has ever been good enough for long enough to even be noticed by the other team in the state.

It's the same with A&M. I know many UT fans that root for them when they are not playing Texas, myself included. The only teams I root for over A&M are UT of course and UH. I have always been a Cougs fan myself and personally would love to see them in the Big XII however that is another topic.

This is why I like you, Kevin. A very reasonable post that really caused me to think. The Oilers/Texans "rivalry" with the Cowboys is a great analogy. Other than the bandwagon Houstonians that only root for the Cowboys because they won a few Super Bowls, most Cowboys fans I know that are actually from Dallas or the surrounding areas don't care a lick or have a problem with the Texans.

So I guess UT suffers from some of the same problems. They get a lot of bandwagon fans just like Dallas that root for them simply because of recent success. So naturally, it makes everyone else sick to their stomach as some guy that has never even been to a UT football game, or on the campus for that matter, is rubbing it in your face, or sticking "horns" in your face, that "his" Horns won a game.
 
That is not true. The non-conference schedule can be changed anytime the Longhorns choose to. UT has reached settlements in the past to change their non-conference schedule, and they could do it again if they really wanted to. Hell, they could tell ATM that they have to pay the settlement to clear room on their non-conference schedule, if they want the rivalry to continue, but they won't because Deloss Dodds is petty.

It is true. The schedule is set till 2018. Can U.T. back out of a contract with other schools? Yes, but with a monetary settlement. But why should U.T. break contracts that it already has with other teams and pay out a settlement.? That's just bad business.

Bottom line is, the onus is on the aggays for leaving the conference and leaving the rivalry. We'll see it continue in the future, but for now it is done. All thanks to aggay little brother resentment.
 
This is why I like you, Kevin. A very reasonable post that really caused me to think. The Oilers/Texans "rivalry" with the Cowboys is a great analogy. Other than the bandwagon Houstonians that only root for the Cowboys because they won a few Super Bowls, most Cowboys fans I know that are actually from Dallas or the surrounding areas don't care a lick or have a problem with the Texans.

So I guess UT suffers from some of the same problems. They get a lot of bandwagon fans just like Dallas that root for them simply because of recent success. So naturally, it makes everyone else sick to their stomach as some guy that has never even been to a UT football game, or on the campus for that matter, is rubbing it in your face, or sticking "horns" in your face, that "his" Horns won a game.

I agree with you and the poster you quoted. All of my friends, co-workers and acquintances that are Cowboys fan don't have any rival feelings towards us. In fact many of them like seeing us do well for a change this season. The "rivalry" with us is just non-existant and one way. They have many heated and historic rivalries already and they pretty much have all of Texas outside of the greater Houston area.

As a U.T. alum, I do care about the a&m rivalry and hate seeing it "stalled" for the time being. But in the Mack Brown era, the OU rivalry has really taken center stage since both teams have had quite a bit of success in the past decade Perhaps if the aggays have put forth a more competitive product on the field, thereby having top 10 or top 5 matchups with the Longhorns, then rivalry would be a bit more 2 way. But the aggays have sucked ever since they fired RC Slocum, and the Longhorn matchup is all they have to live for each season, while U.T. has been living for and vying for confrence championships, BCS bowls, and national championships.
 
I agree with you and the poster you quoted. All of my friends, co-workers and acquintances that are Cowboys fan don't have any rival feelings towards us. In fact many of them like seeing us do well for a change this season. The "rivalry" with us is just non-existant and one way. They have many heated and historic rivalries already and they pretty much have all of Texas outside of the greater Houston area.

As a U.T. alum, I do care about the a&m rivalry and hate seeing it "stalled" for the time being. But in the Mack Brown era, the OU rivalry has really taken center stage since both teams have had quite a bit of success in the past decade Perhaps if the aggays have put forth a more competitive product on the field, thereby having top 10 or top 5 matchups with the Longhorns, then rivalry would be a bit more 2 way. But the aggays have sucked ever since they fired RC Slocum, and the Longhorn matchup is all they have to live for each season, while U.T. has been living for and vying for confrence championships, BCS bowls, and national championships.

See this is what I don't get. You guys (UT alums) say you don't care very much about the A&M rivalry and also say that Aggies have a lot more derogatory sayings about the Longhorns than the Longhorns do about Aggies, but then you come in here to repeatedly type "aggays" as if to call all Texas A&M fans gay.

To say the rivalry is one-sided just isn't true. Just as you are being a bit of a jerk with how you call them "aggays", there are plenty of jerk Aggies out there saying similar things about "tu" and dumb stuff like that. So just admit there is a rivalry and that you both hate each other like a couple of elementary kids and carry on with your bashing of each other.
 
So I guess UT suffers from some of the same problems. They get a lot of bandwagon fans just like Dallas that root for them simply because of recent success. So naturally, it makes everyone else sick to their stomach as some guy that has never even been to a UT football game, or on the campus for that matter, is rubbing it in your face, or sticking "horns" in your face, that "his" Horns won a game.

I've heard this take a lot this past week (and over the years) from my Aggie friends. And it's one of the main reasons why I'm glad that this game is going away.

Just got a real problem with fans from one team trying to legitimize fans from another team. I haven't seen the same elitist attitude toward t-shirt A&M fans or bandwagon UH fans.

Where does it end? Can people outside of Texas become Texans fans? People outside of Houston? People that don't go to games? People that don't sit in the Bullpen?
 
See this is what I don't get. You guys (UT alums) say you don't care very much about the A&M rivalry and also say that Aggies have a lot more derogatory sayings about the Longhorns than the Longhorns do about Aggies, but then you come in here to repeatedly type "aggays" as if to call all Texas A&M fans gay.

To say the rivalry is one-sided just isn't true. Just as you are being a bit of a jerk with how you call them "aggays", there are plenty of jerk Aggies out there saying similar things about "tu" and dumb stuff like that. So just admit there is a rivalry and that you both hate each other like a couple of elementary kids and carry on with your bashing of each other.

Actually I think you misread my statement. I said I DO care about the rivalry, and always will. I was just explaining why the OU rivalry has taken center stage with many Longhorn supporters.

And yes, I did say "aggay" to bash them. And I will use said moniker whenever I please. I think its shameful how they let their envy of U.T., and little brother syndrome get the best of them. To the point where they quit the Big 12.
 
Disturbing amount of buzz around that the aggies are going to come looking for Kevin Sumlin now that they've parted ways with Sherman.

I have a bad feeling about this...
 
Actually I think you misread my statement. I said I DO care about the rivalry, and always will. I was just explaining why the OU rivalry has taken center stage with many Longhorn supporters.

And yes, I did say "aggay" to bash them. And I will use said moniker whenever I please. I think its shameful how they let their envy of U.T., and little brother syndrome get the best of them. To the point where they quit the Big 12.

I wasn't necessarily referring to you as someone that didn't care about the rivalry. But I have read many statements by posters on here as well as friends of mine that treat Aggies like they really don't care what they do because the real rivalry is with OU. Yet at the same time, they feel the need to call Aggies names and make rude comments. So my point is if you really don't care about someone and don't view them as a real rival, then you don't feel a need to bash them. Obviously that doesn't apply to you.

As for your last statement, I'm not so sure it has so much to do with feeling like a little brother. Matt Thomas was talking about it today and made some great points and as far as I know, he doesn't have a dog in the fight whatsoever. Basically, he was saying A&M just made a calculated decision based on their predictions of where the conferences were going. So instead of letting Texas control their destiny as far as if Texas decided to leave for the PAC 12, the Aggies decided to make a move while they could.

Obviously, I really dislike Texas because I hate Dodds for what he did to UH, but the dislike turns to hate when Longhorns get so cocky that they think the only reason anyone does anything is because they feel like a little brother next to the great University of Texas.
 
Disturbing amount of buzz around that the aggies are going to come looking for Kevin Sumlin now that they've parted ways with Sherman.

I have a bad feeling about this...

This is going to piss me off if the talk causes the players to get distracted and UH ends up blowing the conference championship game. This is why colleges should not be allowed to talk to coaches with current head coaching positions until after the national championship.
 
I've heard this take a lot this past week (and over the years) from my Aggie friends. And it's one of the main reasons why I'm glad that this game is going away.

Just got a real problem with fans from one team trying to legitimize fans from another team. I haven't seen the same elitist attitude toward t-shirt A&M fans or bandwagon UH fans.

Where does it end? Can people outside of Texas become Texans fans? People outside of Houston? People that don't go to games? People that don't sit in the Bullpen?

I think you misunderstand. I don't have a problem with people that live outside of the city rooting for a team. It's just that it seems some of the most annoying and "in your face" fans are the ones that actually either never attended school there or grew up in a city with its own franchise but decided to root for a winning team so they could feel better about themselves.

Let me give you an example. I have two friends. One grew up in Alabama but where he was from, everyone loved the Cowboys and his parents were Cowboys fans. The other was born and raised in Houston. His parents were Oilers fans yet once he saw the Cowboys win a Super Bowl in the 90s, he became a Cowboys fan. Take a guess at which one is the more annoying fan. The one from Alabama actually likes the Texans and roots for them too and has no problem. The one from Houston isn't content unless he is bashing the Texans and constantly has to rub it in people's faces about how "his" Cowboys are America's team.
 
And yes, I did say "aggay" to bash them. And I will use said moniker whenever I please. I think its shameful how they let their envy of U.T., and little brother syndrome get the best of them. To the point where they quit the Big 12.

I expect nothing less from a self-righteous UTerus whorn fan who thinks that a school doing what is best for itself must be because of envy of the sister school.
 
I wasn't necessarily referring to you as someone that didn't care about the rivalry. But I have read many statements by posters on here as well as friends of mine that treat Aggies like they really don't care what they do because the real rivalry is with OU. Yet at the same time, they feel the need to call Aggies names and make rude comments. So my point is if you really don't care about someone and don't view them as a real rival, then you don't feel a need to bash them. Obviously that doesn't apply to you.

As for your last statement, I'm not so sure it has so much to do with feeling like a little brother. Matt Thomas was talking about it today and made some great points and as far as I know, he doesn't have a dog in the fight whatsoever. Basically, he was saying A&M just made a calculated decision based on their predictions of where the conferences were going. So instead of letting Texas control their destiny as far as if Texas decided to leave for the PAC 12, the Aggies decided to make a move while they could.

Obviously, I really dislike Texas because I hate Dodds for what he did to UH, but the dislike turns to hate when Longhorns get so cocky that they think the only reason anyone does anything is because they feel like a little brother next to the great University of Texas.

I'm not saying that A&M can't do what's best for them. I never called them names. They are welcome to go to the SEC. I wish em luck and ill root for em if they're playing another SEC team.

But why is criticize UT for doing the sake thing? It's not in their interest to schedule A&M. They already have Ole Miss so they're full up on also rans from the SEC.
 
I'm not saying that A&M can't do what's best for them. I never called them names. They are welcome to go to the SEC. I wish em luck and ill root for em if they're playing another SEC team.

But why is criticize UT for doing the sake thing? It's not in their interest to schedule A&M. They already have Ole Miss so they're full up on also rans from the SEC.

Here is the last thing I will say on the matter. If A&M had won on Thanksgiving night, do you honestly believe the Longhorns wouldn't have scheduled the Aggies at least within the next few years? I feel like there is no doubt. But since UT held on and won the game, they can just refer to the Aggies as also rans and not play them.

That to me says it all. For college football, it would have been better if A&M had won that game. Since they didn't, UT gets to stick their chest in the air and wave the horns and dodge A&M for the next 10 years or until Dodds is gone. Had they lost, there is no doubt UT would have wanted revenge. On the flip side, A&M has been willing to play them win or lose.

That says everything in my opinion.
 
I think you misunderstand. I don't have a problem with people that live outside of the city rooting for a team. It's just that it seems some of the most annoying and "in your face" fans are the ones that actually either never attended school there or grew up in a city with its own franchise but decided to root for a winning team so they could feel better about themselves.

Let me give you an example. I have two friends. One grew up in Alabama but where he was from, everyone loved the Cowboys and his parents were Cowboys fans. The other was born and raised in Houston. His parents were Oilers fans yet once he saw the Cowboys win a Super Bowl in the 90s, he became a Cowboys fan. Take a guess at which one is the more annoying fan. The one from Alabama actually likes the Texans and roots for them too and has no problem. The one from Houston isn't content unless he is bashing the Texans and constantly has to rub it in people's faces about how "his" Cowboys are America's team.

It's cool. I quoted you, but that comment wasn't necessarily directed at you.

That comment was 100% my own personal baggage. I like a good natured ball-busting, but I've heard a bunch of **** this week that's really pissed me off. Mainly stuff from recent A&M grads like "Wal-Mart fans" and "t-shirt fans." But I've found the Aggies that are around here nowadays are a pretty classy bunch. Funny how that happens as people get older.

For the record, I'm a Longhorn, but I think the LHN is horseshit and I'm not a real big DeLoss Dodds fan either.
 
Here is the last thing I will say on the matter. If A&M had won on Thanksgiving night, do you honestly believe the Longhorns wouldn't have scheduled the Aggies at least within the next few years? I feel like there is no doubt. But since UT held on and won the game, they can just refer to the Aggies as also rans and not play them.

That to me says it all. For college football, it would have been better if A&M had won that game. Since they didn't, UT gets to stick their chest in the air and wave the horns and dodge A&M for the next 10 years or until Dodds is gone. Had they lost, there is no doubt UT would have wanted revenge. On the flip side, A&M has been willing to play them win or lose.

That says everything in my opinion.

Considering they were saying they wouldn't play them anymore before the game started, yes I do believe that the series would have ended whether Texas won or lost. What makes you think Dodds would flip?
 
For the record, I'm a Longhorn, but I think the LHN is horseshit and I'm not a real big DeLoss Dodds fan either.

I agree, the Longhorn Network is horseshit. The biggest loser with respect to the LHN is Longhorn fans. Since the introduction of the LHN, Longhorn fans have been forced to pay for the LHN to watch the UT-Rice game that in the past was on free TV or basic cable, and that is if the channel is even available in their service area.
 
A&M just made a calculated decision based on their predictions of where the conferences were going. So instead of letting Texas control their destiny as far as if Texas decided to leave for the PAC 12, the Aggies decided to make a move while they could.

out of all the other reasons a&m, ut, or whatever fans suggest; this is the most important one for why we are joining the sec.
 
I expect nothing less from a self-righteous UTerus whorn fan who thinks that a school doing what is best for itself must be because of envy of the sister school.

No reason to sink to their level with the name calling.

Considering they were saying they wouldn't play them anymore before the game started, yes I do believe that the series would have ended whether Texas won or lost. What makes you think Dodds would flip?

I agree with this. Dodds said at least a month before the game that they didn't intend to schedule A&M in the future. If you recall during last year's conference realignment talk, Dodds threatened to never play A&M again if they went to the SEC, which would have meant UT and a few others likely would have gone to the PAC. The thing that gets me about it is that Dodds doesn't just come out and say it, "A&M left us and the conference, so we have no intention of helping them out by scheduling another game with them." Just put it out there if you don't ever want to play again and that will be the end of the discussion. Unless of course that is not their intention...
 
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