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Longhorn Network's 5 New Shows: Why No One Will Watch Them

gonna be some interesting information released sunday night about this network if anyone is curious.. guy named @spadilly on twitter did some FOIA requests and has some documents he's gonna share with the public

gonna get real interesting real fast if its actual big news...
 
pbat488 said:
gonna be some interesting information released sunday night about this network if anyone is curious.. guy named @spadilly on twitter did some FOIA requests and has some documents he's gonna share with the public

gonna get real interesting real fast if its actual big news...
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What are you implying?
 
I'm not implying anything; I'm saying that on sunday a guy named @spadilly is going to release information he found about the network, ut-austin, espn, and Img that hasn't been released publicly.. that's all I know so far, but i'll be tuning in to see what he's got
 
pbat488 said:
I'm not implying anything; I'm saying that on sunday a guy named @spadilly is going to release information he found about the network, ut-austin, espn, and Img that hasn't been released publicly.. that's all I know so far, but i'll be tuning in to see what he's got
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I'm not getting my hopes up, but it kinda funny watching the UT fans squirm or act like the Iraqi Information minister.
 
pbat488 said:
http://themidnightyell.blogspot.com/2011/08/documents-reveal-intention-behind.html

here's the information I was talking about a few days ago
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From what I got out of that, is that Texas got a great deal on their hands. You being an A&M guy who hates Texas is mad about it, because it makes them stronger and gives them certain advantages. Is this deal with ESPN good for the overall conference of the BIG 12?? Probably not. Sounds like you should be angry with the system and how it operates though, not with the school who found a way to take advantage of it to their benefit. If the NCAA and the BCS had policies in place that made it more fair for everyone in your eyes, then this doesn't create these advantages. The fact is if A&M had the draw that Texas does and was able to develop the same type of revenue that Texas can, then Texas A&M would have done this as well. They just don't and you're angry about it because you hate Texas and are a fan of another team in the BIG 12. Again though, you should be blaming the system of college football and how it's set up. Not the schools that find ways to benefit from it.
 
Texecutioner said:
From what I got out of that, is that Texas got a great deal on their hands. You being an A&M guy who hates Texas is mad about it, because it makes them stronger and gives them certain advantages. Is this deal with ESPN good for the overall conference of the BIG 12?? Probably not. Sounds like you should be angry with the system and how it operates though, not with the school who found a way to take advantage of it to their benefit. If the NCAA and the BCS had policies in place that made it more fair for everyone in your eyes, then this doesn't create these advantages. The fact is if A&M had the draw that Texas does and was able to develop the same type of revenue that Texas can, then Texas A&M would have done this as well. They just don't and you're angry about it because you hate Texas and are a fan of another team in the BIG 12. Again though, you should be blaming the system of college football and how it's set up. Not the schools that find ways to benefit from it.
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Where do you even get the slightest bit of anger or hate from Pbat's posts in this thread? Did you get into a spat with an Aggie about this somewhere else? Because it really seems like you're projecting something onto him in this case.

PS, don't read Texags, it will make your head explode.
 
Dutchrudder said:
Where do you even get the slightest bit of anger or hate from Pbat's posts in this thread? Did you get into a spat with an Aggie about this somewhere else? Because it really seems like you're projecting something onto him in this case.
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Maybe from the dozens of other threads where him and a few others in here have taken shots at Texas and their fans multiple times in here.

Dutchrudder said:
PS, don't read Texags, it will make your head explode.
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I wouldn't, just as I don't enjoy reading Orangebloods.com I can't stand listening to some of UT's fans either.
 
Texecutioner said:
From what I got out of that, is that Texas got a great deal on their hands. You being an A&M guy who hates Texas is mad about it, because it makes them stronger and gives them certain advantages. Is this deal with ESPN good for the overall conference of the BIG 12?? Probably not. Sounds like you should be angry with the system and how it operates though, not with the school who found a way to take advantage of it to their benefit. If the NCAA and the BCS had policies in place that made it more fair for everyone in your eyes, then this doesn't create these advantages. The fact is if A&M had the draw that Texas does and was able to develop the same type of revenue that Texas can, then Texas A&M would have done this as well. They just don't and you're angry about it because you hate Texas and are a fan of another team in the BIG 12. Again though, you should be blaming the system of college football and how it's set up. Not the schools that find ways to benefit from it.
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ahh, texecutioner, why do you get so angry about my posts?! I think you're just mad that I think ufc/mma is super gay and that I support a&m.

as for your response, first off, I don't hate longhorns like you think I do. two out of what I consider my three best friends are longhorns. you could say I hate the arrogance longhorn fans show, but it's not a big deal as all fanbases have their own respective negatives. seriously though, go back through this thread here and read it. I posted numerous times during a very contentious period and I don't think I ever hated or demonstrated hatred towards the longhorns as you seem to believe. feel free to check through other posts in that forum as well; i'm sure there's some where i've made fun of them but never downright hated.

now, as to what perturbs me from this information being released isn't the fact that ut-austin is going to get a boatload of cash for this, that was a given and they already made way more than anyone else anyways, it's the way that the longhorn leaders have been so deceptive in their public statements on the subject. here's a quote from the blog I posted earlier demonstrating what I mean..

Remember a few weeks back when it was made known that the Longhorn Network planned to air a Big XII football game this coming season (2011) and the fuss from media and other conference members that came with that? Well, it was planned all along. In the signed agreement, the Longhorn Network HAS to show 1 live football game a year (This year it will be the first home game of the year against Rice to fill the requirement) but BOTH the University of Texas and ESPN have a "mutual desire" to show NO LESS THAN 2 live football games a year on the Longhorn Network.

So where does the network and ESPN stop at? Four live Texas Longhorn football games? The entire home schedule? And if the network does in fact air that many live football games, how does this affect the overall value of the 1st and 2nd tier media rights of the conference as a whole? Less money for the entire conference on the table when 1st tier rights become available in 2015-2016? I guess this also makes void Chip Brown and the Longhorn's spin that "Texas had no idea what ESPN was doing, it was their fault". It's not ESPN alone when there is a "mutual desire" is it?

“This was ESPN acting on its own,” one high-ranking administrator in the Big 12 said. “I don’t think Texas even knew where ESPN was in the process of trying to get this conference game secured. DeLoss Dodds has been very open and forthcoming with all the schools in the Big 12.
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another reason why this information is upsetting to me doesn't have anything to do with longhorns but has to do with my disappointment in the a&m leadership (board of regents, loftin, byrnes, etc) for not foreseeing this happening. when it was announced the conference was staying together and the longhorn network was going to become a reality, I knew then that it would be the end of the Big XII eventually, I just didn't know how soon it would come to be.

after reading this information, it's clear that the endgame for the longhorns is going to be independence and that's fine. I, and i'm sure some other a&m fans, don't care too much about that. I've stated before and still believe that schools should lookout for themselves first and foremost, and I believe ut-austin did while a&m didn't.

at the end of all of this though, I hope and believe that a&m will eventually end up in the SEC. the Big XII is a sitting duck of a conference that will break up at some point and trigger a realignment craze like last summer, it's just a matter of when and not how in my opinion now.
 
One of the major topics that has been brought up not only on fan message boards but in the national media as well has been the airing of Texas high school content. Would it be surprising to anyone that UT Athletics and IMG would put forth their "best effort" to help ESPN secure the rights to airing all state UIL Championships? Fox Sports owns those rights until 2017, but anything after is fair game when the contract expires. And when the University of Texas owns the UIL, who do you think will be televising every Texas state football championship in all classifications, the UIL Basketball State Tournament already held in Austin as well as the softball and baseball tournaments? It is also not hard to imagine the state football championship games being played in Austin instead of Cowboys Stadium where they are located now when that time comes. Unfair advantage for Texas?
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Psst.. Nobody tell @spadilly, but the UIL is already owned by the University of Texas. It was founded by UT and has been run for 100 years by UT:

The University Interscholastic League was created by The University of Texas at Austin to provide leadership and guidance to public school debate and athletic teachers. Since 1910 the UIL has grown into the largest inter-school organization of its kind in the world. The UIL continues to operate as part of the University of Texas, under the auspices of the Vice President for Diversity & Community Engagement.
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http://www.uiltexas.org/about
 
here's an aggie grad who's an attorney thoughts on the network and the information from the documents..

I'm much more in line with this guys thoughts than I think texecutioner or others might seem to believe I am, especially his synopsis near the end.

http://marooncarrot.blogspot.com/


and sidenote..

Dutchrudder said:
PS, don't read Texags, it will make your head explode.
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dude, texags is the best!! how do you not love that site?! the hilarious people cloud out the complete idjits that post there so it's enjoyable for me. plus looch's stuff is top notch.
 
pbat488 said:
here's an aggie grad who's an attorney thoughts on the network and the information from the documents..

I'm much more in line with this guys thoughts than I think texecutioner or others might seem to believe I am, especially his synopsis near the end.

http://marooncarrot.blogspot.com/


and sidenote..



dude, texags is the best!! how do you not love that site?! the hilarious people cloud out the complete idjits that post there so it's enjoyable for me. plus looch's stuff is top notch.
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Websider is much more enjoyable as an A&M fan, with as good or better info. Plus David has been spot on with his insider info on realignment, from both A&M and SEC sources.
 
pbat488 said:
ahh, texecutioner, why do you get so angry about my posts?!
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I think you mistake amusement for anger.

Why would any Longhorn fan get angered by what Aggies fans have to say? Be realistic here.




pbat488 said:
I think you're just mad that I think ufc/mma is super gay and that I support a&m.
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Man, sorry you're missing out.



pbat488 said:
as for your response, first off, I don't hate longhorns like you think I do. two out of what I consider my three best friends are longhorns. you could say I hate the arrogance longhorn fans show, but it's not a big deal as all fanbases have their own respective negatives. seriously though, go back through this thread here and read it. I posted numerous times during a very contentious period and I don't think I ever hated or demonstrated hatred towards the longhorns as you seem to believe. feel free to check through other posts in that forum as well; i'm sure there's some where i've made fun of them but never downright hated.
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I've read through enough threads to make my own determination on that.

pbat488 said:
now, as to what perturbs me from this information being released isn't the fact that ut-austin is going to get a boatload of cash for this, that was a given and they already made way more than anyone else anyways, it's the way that the longhorn leaders have been so deceptive in their public statements on the subject. here's a quote from the blog I posted earlier demonstrating what I mean..
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What do you want or expect them to say.



pbat488 said:
another reason why this information is upsetting to me doesn't have anything to do with longhorns but has to do with my disappointment in the a&m leadership (board of regents, loftin, byrnes, etc) for not foreseeing this happening. when it was announced the conference was staying together and the longhorn network was going to become a reality, I knew then that it would be the end of the Big XII eventually, I just didn't know how soon it would come to be.
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The Big XII needs to end. I'd like to see that happen as soon as possible.

pbat488 said:
after reading this information, it's clear that the endgame for the longhorns is going to be independence and that's fine. I, and i'm sure some other a&m fans, don't care too much about that. I've stated before and still believe that schools should lookout for themselves first and foremost, and I believe ut-austin did while a&m didn't.
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From what I hear that is starting to change and A&M alums are getting really tired of being a doormat and are wanting to do something about it. I hope they do. I like it when A&M is competitive.

pbat488 said:
at the end of all of this though, I hope and believe that a&m will eventually end up in the SEC. the Big XII is a sitting duck of a conference that will break up at some point and trigger a realignment craze like last summer, it's just a matter of when and not how in my opinion now.
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They should have gone when they had the chance then. But why the SEC? You think they're having trouble competing now, and they really become irrelevant. I don't think the SEC would be the right move. I think the BIG 10 would me much smarter for them.
 
Texecutioner said:
1) I think you mistake amusement for anger.

2) Why would any Longhorn fan get angered by what Aggies fans have to say? Be realistic here.

3) Man, sorry you're missing out.

4) I've read through enough threads to make my own determination on that.

5) What do you want or expect them to say.

6) The Big XII needs to end. I'd like to see that happen as soon as possible.

7) From what I hear that is starting to change and A&M alums are getting really tired of being a doormat and are wanting to do something about it. I hope they do. I like it when A&M is competitive.

8) They should have gone when they had the chance then. But why the SEC? You think they're having trouble competing now, and they really become irrelevant. I don't think the SEC would be the right move. I think the BIG 10 would me much smarter for them.
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1) possibly; but I think you're just passive aggressive, not amused.

2) hahahahahahahaha, dear god, get off your high horse guy.

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3) nope, a good friend of mine is real into it and made me go to one of the events in houston in like '07 or '06 and it was the worst. more douchers were there than go out on washington now.

4) fair enough.

5) I want and expect them to tell the truth. they instead chose to lie and shift blame to the ESPN official because they were too cowardly to have their true intentions revealed to the public.. still don't wanna look like the bad guy for the eventual dissolution of the big XII.

6) hey! we agree on something!

7) yeah, i'm tired of being a freaking doormat!

except.. no. just.... no. i'm gonna guess you're about 25-27 years old, so if being a doormat is going 15 - 12 in your estimated lifetime against the high and mighty horns, then i'll take being a doormat. also, athletic department smack!.

8) when have I ever said I think we're having trouble competing in the big XII? that's just ridiculous and would've probably been more relevant from '03-'07ish but seriously, we have the best athletic department in the big XII as of right now, and I don't think there's any denying that*.

as for the big 10, I'd like it from a money standpoint, but realistically it's not a fit. those places are dying, while the south is where the country as a whole is moving. also, we have little natural rivalry with many of those schools. the SEC is where we should be. (as a sidenote, I've noticed many longhorn/tech/baylor fans think we're a terrible fit for the SEC, and I'd really like to understand why. we're not talking about how "we're gonna get the **** knocked out of us by vandy!! hahaha hook 'em, yeah!!!! *high fives* who wants to go to oil can harry's?!" queries that are normally brought up, but rather about the cultural fit in the conference. get back to me on that).

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9) now I have my own question that stemmed from my last response! why are the longhorns so afraid of texas a&m going to the SEC?!
 
If Texas A&M is going to go to the SEC, they need to go now. This continuous cycle of WE'RE LEAVING WE REALLY ARE THIS TIME OKAY MAYBE NOT JUST YET BUT WE WILL SOON bullshit is getting old.
 
MadBurgerMaker said:
If Texas A&M is going to go to the SEC, they need to go now. This continuous cycle of WE'RE LEAVING WE REALLY ARE THIS TIME OKAY MAYBE NOT JUST YET BUT WE WILL SOON bullshit is getting old.
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Yeah, but is it ever the school's AD or president saying that, or just a bunch of sportswriters with 'insider sources'? I'm sick of this crap myself, but all I have seen is people trying to make a name for themselves off of predicting when this move will go down.
 
Dutchrudder said:
Yeah, but is it ever the school's AD or president saying that, or just a bunch of sportswriters with 'insider sources'? I'm sick of this crap myself, but all I have seen is people trying to make a name for themselves off of predicting when this move will go down.
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True. Well, hell, I don't even think it's really "sportswriters" for a lot of it, or at least not in the usual sense, let alone university administration types. It seems to be coming mostly from bloggers and such, and it just gets repeated over and over and over.

FWIW, the guy who covers Texas A&M for the Express News here in SA and the Houston Chronicle dumped this out on twitter:

Brent Zwerneman said:
High-ranking A&M official just told me there have been "no precipitating events that have led to today's rumors & speculations" about SEC
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Brent said:
High-ranking A&M official also said there will be "no imminent announcement or anything of that matter" concerning the SEC
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Brent said:
A&M official was mum on whether something might happen with the SEC at some point, citing Ags' general unhappiness with the Big 12 right now
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The stuff just seems to come from nowhere and explodes all over various message boards and it's starting to piss me off. C'mon people! We need to be paying attention to more important things: like UTSA's first football season! :play:
 
MadBurgerMaker said:
True. Well, hell, I don't even think it's really "sportswriters" for a lot of it, or at least not in the usual sense, let alone university administration types. It seems to be coming mostly from bloggers and such, and it just gets repeated over and over and over.

FWIW, the guy who covers Texas A&M for the Express News here in SA and the Houston Chronicle dumped this out on twitter:







The stuff just seems to come from nowhere and explodes all over various message boards and it's starting to piss me off. C'mon people! We need to be paying attention to more important things: like UTSA's first football season! :play:
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Yeah, from what I have gathered it has all been bullshit put out by sportswriters looking to attract hits to their website, followers to their twitter and users to their forums. They have cried wolf too many times, it's time for people (Aggies) to wake up and realize they are getting played, and they look like dumbasses every time they fall for it. It's ridiculous that A&M fans can't wait to get out of the best situation they could have in college football only to get trampled by the SEC. I really don't understand it, but then again I'm not living in CS drinking the koolaide any more.
 
I don't think it's just A&M, I don't think any school really wants to be put in the negative light of "dissolving the Big 12" by being the 1st to go... even if it's just a matter of time of it happening. A&M, UT, OU... they don't want to be the scapegoat.

UT - Independent
A&M - SEC
OU, OK St., Texas Tech - Pac 10

All others - good luck

UT is in the perfect position to be independent but how would their other programs fare? Only Notre Dame's football progam is "on their own" while there other programs compete in the... what is it the Big East?? Is that still how they operate?? I'd wonder if UT does some similar route.
 
Ole Miss Texan said:
I don't think it's just A&M, I don't think any school really wants to be put in the negative light of "dissolving the Big 12" by being the 1st to go... even if it's just a matter of time of it happening. A&M, UT, OU... they don't want to be the scapegoat.

UT - Independent
A&M - SEC
OU, OK St., Texas Tech - Pac 10

All others - good luck

UT is in the perfect position to be independent but how would their other programs fare? Only Notre Dame's football progam is "on their own" while there other programs compete in the... what is it the Big East?? Is that still how they operate?? I'd wonder if UT does some similar route.
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If it went down like you have it above, I could see UT getting into the Pac-12+ for its other sports, but scheduling 2-4 football games with the Pac-12+ each year as part of the deal. There may be some opportunity to share TV rights too. I suppose UT could go with the SEC for its other sports, but I don't know if they would want that.

I really wish UT, OU, OSU, and A&M would just go to the Pac-12 and make a super-conference, but I don't see it happening any more.
 
Solomon is no ones favorite and this is hsi comment on the Ags in this

Jerome Solomon (@JeromeSolomon)
8/9/11 3:23 PM
Texas A&M lives on a regular rotation from embarrassing inferiority complex to illogical superiority complex.
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What would A&M's exit fees be like? Didn't they stiffen up the penalty for ditching the conference when Nebraska left?
 
Dan B. said:
What would A&M's exit fees be like? Didn't they stiffen up the penalty for ditching the conference when Nebraska left?
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Iirc, I believe it's 20 million per school that leaves the conference now, but it depends on how much notice they give. So if they give >6 months notice, they pay 20 mill, and then it scales down from there somehow to 50% of the money. I think they also forfeit any TV contract income once they formally leave the conference. In any case, it's a steep price.
 
So, if I watch this channel will I get to learn and see:

1. Where Ricky buys his weed?
2. Cedric Benson's boat dealer?
3. Where and what Mack Brown likes to eat for a pregame meal?
4. The UT athletic department swimming through their money bin Scrooge McDuck style?!

All said by a UT fan!
 
FirstTexansFan said:
<<<------- The only Aggie that truly amuses Texecutioner :)
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I like the Aggies. They're from Texas and I support them as well as TT. But I'm a UT fan at heart and always will be, but I've always wanted those 3 to be competitive because it made the BIG 12 more exciting to watch and made the rivalry stronger. Over the years though, it's not much of a rivalry anymore other than to A&M fans. That's their SB. Texas fans get heated up for the Red River Shoot Out and then just try to win more games than Oklahoma in order to get to the BIG 12 championship.

The ones that amuse me are the ones that constantly take shots at the Longhorns and have such a bitter hate. They're both Texas schools so I've never understood that. Texas is head and shoulders ahead of them though to where it's not even close, so there simply is no reason to get bothered by what a bitter Aggie fan would want to say that's negative.
 
When the Ag's win, I razz my teasip brethren, when they win, they razz me... thus why I have thick skin... I've been on the short end of that stick too many times to mention :)
 
Dutchrudder said:
Iirc, I believe it's 20 million per school that leaves the conference now, but it depends on how much notice they give. So if they give >6 months notice, they pay 20 mill, and then it scales down from there somehow to 50% of the money. I think they also forfeit any TV contract income once they formally leave the conference. In any case, it's a steep price.
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The exit penalty is giving up conference TV revenue for a certain amount of time depending on how much notice you give the conference. 2+ years = no penalty, 1+ year = 1 year revenue, <1 year = 2 years revenue.

NU and CU were able to negotiate less than 1 year revenue even though they only gave 1 year of notice.

And the new Fox contract that "guarantees" $20M/yr hasn't yet been signed. So the penalties would only be the current contract amounts.
 
Texecutioner said:
I like the Aggies. They're from Texas and I support them as well as TT.
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I am with you there also. I have always rooted for most SWC (now former) schools when they are not playing Texas.

A&M is probably my 2nd favorite school to root for (maybe because of my east Texas ties). I would love to see them in the SEC as long as they still play Texas every season. I just wish Texas would get out of the Big Snooze conference.
 
Hookem Horns said:
I am with you there also. I have always rooted for most SWC (now former) schools when they are not playing Texas.

A&M is probably my 2nd favorite school to root for (maybe because of my east Texas ties). I would love to see them in the SEC as long as they still play Texas every season. I just wish Texas would get out of the Big Snooze conference.
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Yeah, I don't get the back and forth I have to hate you more syndrome that many Longhorn fans and Aggie fans like to carry. I'm a Longhorn fan through and through, but I have no Aggie hate. I'll wish for them to have success as long as it doesn't interfere with Longhorns goals. I've rooted for the Aggies to beat Oklahoma in many seasons. I've even rooted for the Aggies to beat Texas a few times in hopes that it would embarrass Texas enough to where they would ax Greg Davis or even Mack Brown. Finally Davis got that ax last season and he is long gone.
 
I'm an A&M fan and have season tickets there as well as the Texans. And while I like to mess with my longhorn friends (and I can certainly take the ribbing as well), I really don't have any hate for them, though I do despise some of their arrogant fanbase.
 
I hope A&M does end up joining the SEC in the coming years but maintains the Texas rivaly game as one of their non-conference games. Would make for a very very tough schedule for sure but you gotta do it.

South Carolina and Clemson, for example, play every single year and its the last regular season game of the year. That's what UT and A&M should do.
 
Texecutioner said:
I like the Aggies. They're from Texas and I support them as well as TT. But I'm a UT fan at heart and always will be, but I've always wanted those 3 to be competitive because it made the BIG 12 more exciting to watch and made the rivalry stronger. Over the years though, it's not much of a rivalry anymore other than to A&M fans. That's their SB. Texas fans get heated up for the Red River Shoot Out and then just try to win more games than Oklahoma in order to get to the BIG 12 championship.

The ones that amuse me are the ones that constantly take shots at the Longhorns and have such a bitter hate. They're both Texas schools so I've never understood that. Texas is head and shoulders ahead of them though to where it's not even close, so there simply is no reason to get bothered by what a bitter Aggie fan would want to say that's negative.
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bolded = :ahhaha:

italicized = :potkettle:
 
Texecutioner said:
What is troubling you?
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well, my neck is killing me from a series of fracs today out near jewett, and recently it hurts when I pee so that sucks and is kinda scary..

but mostly, it's your hypocritical attitude about taking shots at teams/fanbases. you don't like it when other teams' fans take them at the longhorns, yet you continually take them at my ags by trying to belittle us.

also, to be clear, it's not the fact that you're saying stuff about aggie fans or a&m. that doesn't bother me too much; both of my older brothers went to tech and hardly any of my close friends from home even like a&m, so i'm not crying about that.

it's the fact that you claim to not like it when other fan bases say negative/derogatory things about the longhorns then proceed to do it. this is what is troubling me.

choose a stance and stick by it instead of waffling prease.
 
GlassHalfFull said:
Tex, just curious. What year did you graduate from UT?

I have a theory based on graduation year and attitude.

Fightin' Aggie Class of '84 here. Which explains a lot.
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I don't see how any type of graduation year would have anything to do with this. And I didn't go to school at UT. Are you one of those people that thinks that someone can only be a fan of a team in college sports if they attended there or something?
 
Texecutioner said:
I don't see how any type of graduation year would have anything to do with this. And I didn't go to school at UT. Are you one of those people that thinks that someone can only be a fan of a team in college sports if they attended there or something?
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Whoops, that felt a bit defensive.

I actually had a theory about attitudes based on when people had attended the school. Wasn't trying to call anyone out. My era was a bit more even. Then things got pretty uneven. They seem to be getting back to more even (hopefully).

I am an Aggie who loves her school. One of the prouder times in my life was when I went up to orientation with my son. I spent most of those 3 days with tears in my eyes remembering what A&M stands for and what my time there meant to me. We will be going to his graduation in the spring, and I expect to spend a bunch more time with tears.
 
pbat488 said:
well, my neck is killing me from a series of fracs today out near jewett, and recently it hurts when I pee so that sucks and is kinda scary..

but mostly, it's your hypocritical attitude about taking shots at teams/fanbases. you don't like it when other teams' fans take them at the longhorns, yet you continually take them at my ags by trying to belittle us.

also, to be clear, it's not the fact that you're saying stuff about aggie fans or a&m. that doesn't bother me too much; both of my older brothers went to tech and hardly any of my close friends from home even like a&m, so i'm not crying about that.

it's the fact that you claim to not like it when other fan bases say negative/derogatory things about the longhorns then proceed to do it. this is what is troubling me.

choose a stance and stick by it instead of waffling prease.
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Are you kidding me?? We're in a UT thread where you're complaining about Texas getting a network and you have a constant history of taking digs at UT for as long as I can remember. And you're trying to act like I'm the guy doing that? Nice deflection from the truth and reality, but your history speaks for itself along with other Aggies in here that never miss an opportunity to take a dig at Texas. I'm just wondering where Pollardized is and why he is so late to the party. The only discourse I end up having with you that has anything to do with UT is from your own digs. I throw a little bit back in return and all of a sudden it's a problem. I remember last season when quite a few Aggs were all over the place kicking dust on UT after that awful season, the minute a Longhorn fan tossed it back in the direction it came it was a lot of crying and bad attitudes about it. If you want to dish it out, then make sure you can take it. Again, the Longhorn bashing from Aggies is comical to me.

Feel free to show me a thread where I slid in and dumped all over the Aggies for no reason or where it wasn't in return. As a matter of fact I don't even hardly start Longhorns threads in here. I'm usually just commenting in ones that "Aggie fans" start in here handing out a little reality check. I certainly have never started a thread about the Aggies ever. The only ill will I've ever wished on the Aggies was for Kubiak to get a job there as HC and the only reason why I even wished that on them was because I wanted him out of Houston. In this very thread, I said I liked the Aggies and generally wanted them to have success, yet you glance over that and get upset about some other comment. Sorry if the truth hurts, but it is the truth. If they go the SEC they're going to get hammered. They don't bring in enough talent year by year and they haven't even had much success in the BIG 12. If they do make that move though, I'll root for them, but I won't expect anything more than a 4 to 5 win season. A move to the BIG 10 would be a much a much smarter move to me.
 
GlassHalfFull said:
Whoops, that felt a bit defensive.

I actually had a theory about attitudes based on when people had attended the school. Wasn't trying to call anyone out. My era was a bit more even. Then things got pretty uneven. They seem to be getting back to more even (hopefully).

I am an Aggie who loves her school. One of the prouder times in my life was when I went up to orientation with my son. I spent most of those 3 days with tears in my eyes remembering what A&M stands for and what my time there meant to me. We will be going to his graduation in the spring, and I expect to spend a bunch more time with tears.
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Well that is great for you. I hope you enjoy your time. I know a lot of folks from your age group and era that are very proud Aggie fans. Good folks. I give them some ribbing here and there and they do the same to me. Personally I'd like to see A&M become a power house. I have wanted that for years. It would make the BIG 12 a lot more interesting than it just being Texas and Oklahoma being the big dogs that are favored to take it every season. The Texas and Texas A&M rivalry would be interesting again. Coming from a Texas fan it hasn't been for a long time. Personally I've wanted Texas A&M to embarrass Texas on more than one occassion as I stated before in hopes that it would get Mack Brown out of there, because if Texas loses to A&M the Alumni and the fan base in general finds it embarrassing. I'd much rather see Texas A&M and TT win the BIG 12 over Oklahoma if Texas isn't getting it done.
 
Just an FYI, the anti-longhorn guy starting the silly threads was Orangelotpole and he was a U of H cougar. I think it just became a running joke after the fist couple "Ucla is giving it to Texas" or something like that. It was a bad season for ut no doubt, but I really don't recall anyone else being an ass about it.
 
Dutchrudder said:
Just an FYI, the anti-longhorn guy starting the silly threads was Orangelotpole and he was a U of H cougar. I think it just became a running joke after the fist couple "Ucla is giving it to Texas" or something like that. It was a bad season for ut no doubt, but I really don't recall anyone else being an ass about it.
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I remember him as well. He was worse than anyone no doubt, but to dismiss the fact that a lot of the Aggies haven't thrown a ton of smack around on the Longhorns is just false Dutch. Again, it's their perogative. If you want to dish it, well you know the rest.
 
tex, you're not reading my posts carefully enough; I really couldn't care less when other people talk bad about me or things I like, seriously.

it's the fact that you steadfastly claim to not like people taking shots at your school then continue to do just that which makes me respond like I have.

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And I didn't go to school at UT. Are you one of those people that thinks that someone can only be a fan of a team in college sports if they attended there or something?
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I am one of those people if you're gonna make statements like this one.

Texecutioner said:
Why would any Longhorn fan get angered by what Aggies fans have to say? Be realistic here.
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Aggie Yell has got a big headline that says Bye Bye Big 12. Isn't this a tad premature?
 
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