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Is it true: Season Ticket Holders Being Pressured

hmmm.... so i went to pay off my tix in the account manager and no invoices were found. guess i will call tomorrow
system update or something, check in the mail
 
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For me...its business as usual. I paid my tickets...100%. Each of you have great reasons one way or another for paying or not paying. I get it. I really do. If nothing happens this season...so be it. Its beyond my control.

All I can do is hoe there is football this fall. If so...great. If not...I'll just travel all over the state/country on my motorcycle.
 
League says season-ticket sales are now down


Daniel Kaplan of SportsBusiness Journal recently reported NFL owners were informed at a meeting in Indianapolis that season-ticket sales surprisingly were ahead of the 2010 pace, despite the lockout.

Per Kaplan, the league now claims that the sales are behind last year’s numbers.

NFL spokesman Brian McCarthy explained to Kaplan that the sales figures shared with the owners applied only through May 6. When adjusting the totals through May 31, the numbers have dropped. McCarthy also said that renewals of suites and club seats “have slowed to a crawl.”

The league apparently is trying to counter, as Kaplan explains it, criticism of teams for “cutting back and laying off and furloughing employees” at a time when sales were actually up.

But the new figures don’t make the situation any better, in our view. The NFL has been planning to lock out the players for years. Why not also plan to take care of the folks caught in the middle? Last year, in the final year of the labor deal, teams were able to set aside plenty of money thanks to the absence of a salary floor and the disappearance of various types of player benefits. They teams should have set some of that money aside to help pay the employees who are now feeling the pain for a wound they didn’t inflict.

To the extent that the cuts are merely part of some broader effort to demonstrate that the teams are suffering during the lockout, then it’s one of the dumbest P.R. efforts we’ve ever seen. This isn’t a recession or some other external hardship. The NFL has brought this financial crisis on itself in an effort to get a bigger piece of the revenue pie from the players. Thus, the only team officials who fairly should be losing any money as a result of the lockout are the owners.
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Here's a group.........the secondary ticket crooks (sellers).........you just can't feel too sorry for. But it does reflect what is going on with fans.

It was about 10:30 one night last month when Frank Fullerton opened his laptop. He was in the “Panthers room” of his home on the outskirts of Charlotte. While most of the house features neutral colors, in this room Fullerton has a giant 12-foot team logo painted on a blue wall. A custom-made Vinny Testaverde Panthers jersey hangs near the entrance.

Fullerton began typing. “I’m selling my season tickets for the coming season,” he wrote, “if there is one.”

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He’s owned the two seats in Section 321 since the Panthers moved into Bank of America Stadium in 1996. His passion for the team hasn’t wavered, despite the team’s dismal 2-14 record last season. But he lost his sales job a couple of years ago. He lived off old stocks for a while and though he’s only 53 years old, he recently began dipping into his IRAs.

“Same thing that’s happened to a lot of people,” is how he explained his situation. “Companies have been cutting back everywhere. It makes it hard for anyone to justify three grand for football games.”

The advertisement for his tickets went up on Craigslist. He was only asking for face value, but no matter how many times Fullerton checked his in box, there was no response.

It’s a tough time to sell pro football tickets. Since NFL owners locked out their players in March, league officials, ticket brokers and season ticket holders have all reported a difficult time moving tickets.

NFL owners and players are at a stalemate in negotiations for a new labor agreement, and they might stand to lose the most by a prolonged work stoppage. But there is a trickle-down effect that has many others carefully monitoring the dispute, from those in charge of merchandising to the restaurants and bars surrounding NFL stadiums to businesses large and small that depend on the NFL for advertising, entertaining clients and promoting their brands.

“We’re one of the peripheral figures that are affected by this lockout,” said Glenn Lehrman, a spokesman for StubHub, one of the most popular outposts for buying and selling tickets on the secondary market. “Like so many others — vendors, merchants — we’re all in the same boat.”

The two sides have recently begun private talks about a labor deal, and an agreement couldn’t come soon enough for many. While the full impact wouldn’t hit until September, some businesses have contingency plans in place. The lockout has presented large advertisers such as Pepsi, Budweiser and Mars, maker of the Snickers candy bar, with difficult decisions about budgeting, media buys, in-store displays and campaign rollouts.

‘Big picture is still bad news’

Those in the ticket business are already feeling the impact. Ticket sales are down 53 percent from the same time a year ago, according to Don Vaccaro, chief executive of TicketNetwork, one of the country’s leading online ticket exchanges.

“That is a huge, huge swing,” he said. “It seems that a lot of folks on the lower end aren’t buying tickets, and it could be the start of a multiyear problem for the NFL, like we’ve seen with some other leagues.”
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You cheap asses. Just pay your dues! I hear Bob McNair had to cut back on his private Jet staff during his trip to Europe.
 
So how are they going to handle it if there is a shortened 8 game season?
Has there been any correspondence sent out about that?
 
BigWig said:
So how are they going to handle it if there is a shortened 8 game season?
Has there been any correspondence sent out about that?
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In the case of the Texans, you'd get whatever games weren't played refunded....plus 1% interest.
 
so i paid off my tix and relocated a few sections over. the rep said reliant was at about 90% capacity and they expected to sell out the stadium once the lockout was lifted. thats was she said
 
Sigh..

Seriously we all entered into the PSL contract knowing good and well why we did it, the contract doesn't make amendments for anything like this so to adhere to the contract you signed.. pay your dues and wait.

And I'm sorry noone is making a steady 13% interest in this market right now.
 
silvrhand said:
Sigh..

Seriously we all entered into the PSL contract knowing good and well why we did it, the contract doesn't make amendments for anything like this so to adhere to the contract you signed.. pay your dues and wait.

And I'm sorry noone is making a steady 13% interest in this market right now.
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Your NOT making 13%? I have a great opportunity for you then. Its not a pyramid scheme, but I was recruited to sell these cards, and now im recruiting you. And if you think this is a quick rich scheme, well Yes! You will get rich quick. We all will!

:spin:
 
I don't see what the big deal is. I think they would be dumb for not asking for payment now.

I'm just really glad to see they're not laying employees off like other clubs are.
 
gtexan02 said:
Is there a bank that will give you greater than 1% interest guaranteed right now?

I just checked Money Market Accounts and Savings Accounts APY for Houston and the highest I found was 1%.

If you got creative with investing, sure, its easy to earn greater than 1%. But not with 0% risk. 1% seems to be pretty reasonable considering the current rates
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Not to mention you pay now and if there's no season you get your money back plus that 1%.... SIX months from now, not a year! Good luck finding a 6 month CD with that rate.
 
What may to be lost here is that, the way the economy is going, in 6 months your money will be worth less. Some would rather have that money now to be able to spend their money on things they want/need now at probably a better return on that cash purchase.
 
I think if people have to worry about how much intrest they are going to get in return if there is a lock out, they might not want to be investing in football at all! No one is making anyone invest in football it's a luxury!
 
If you didn't pay for your tickets as a normally year, would you have the money set aside to pay for all of it at once, once the lockout is over. I don't think so.
 
Yankee_In_TX said:
LOL, what is the 6 month inflation rate these days?
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Haha most likely higher!

I still just don't really see the big deal of paying for your tickets in advance, as in now, likely when you normally would. Has anyone tried to collect money from people for an event? It's hell when you wait right before the even starts.

Sure there's the risk that a season may not occur, but quite frankly I find that extremely unlikely. Even if that were to happen (worst case scenario), you would get your money back or at least pro rata on the number games played/lost. No season? Boom I get my money back... sucks but at least I'm not out anything.

Then add on the talk about the Texans actually paying you 1% of the price as interest!!?? I think that's pretty cool of them to do. I was meerily commenting on the fact that you pay them in May/June and there's no season, you get paid back 6 months later. That's 1% for 6 months... not a whole year. Could you invest that money in something else and make more? Sure possibly. With today's market you also run the risk of losing some of your initial investment and then you'd be stuck having to come up with extra money right before the season starts to pay for your season tickets... which at that point you might just say 'eff it'.

Is $10 back six months down the road going help me? Not really. I think its somewhat of a nice gesture when they could just say, "sorry OMT, no season here's your money back."

I just find it kind of funny people getting upset not only that they're being asked to pay for their season tickets but that they only get an extra 1% refund in the unlikely event no season occurs.
 
gtexan02 said:
Is there a bank that will give you greater than 1% interest guaranteed right now?

I just checked Money Market Accounts and Savings Accounts APY for Houston and the highest I found was 1%.

If you got creative with investing, sure, its easy to earn greater than 1%. But not with 0% risk. 1% seems to be pretty reasonable considering the current rates
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You can try Texas Citizens Bank or Founders Bank here in Houston. They have rewards checking accounts at about 2-2.5%. (used to be 5%, but alas...) Only catch is you have to use the debit card x number of times a month and have direct deposit (basically, they want you to use it like a normal checking account). For Founders, it's 10x a month and for Citizens it is 12x a month I believe.

But ya...point me in the direction of the 13% checking accounts plz. :)
 
ensign_lee said:
You can try Texas Citizens Bank or Founders Bank here in Houston. They have rewards checking accounts at about 2-2.5%. (used to be 5%, but alas...) Only catch is you have to use the debit card x number of times a month and have direct deposit (basically, they want you to use it like a normal checking account). For Founders, it's 10x a month and for Citizens it is 12x a month I believe.

But ya...point me in the direction of the 13% checking accounts plz. :)
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Now you guys need to stop with the "telephone pole game" everchanging messages. I never said I had a 13% checking account. Enough please. I said my money makes 13% where its at. I was trying to make a statement but to my surprise, nobody can focus on the message behind it. Some of you guys just made up stuff and started running with the savings accounts and whatnot. If y'all want to make fun, that's fine with me... but I definitely wish I had said nothing... that really was too personal information for me to divulge on my part. In my mind and post, I was talking to one person (who I happen to know is a very financial person) but sometimes I forget this is an open forum... oh well. It happens...
 
I just got off the phone with the Texans ticket office and they said that the lockout has not impacted their projected sales.... Apparently everyone with Platinum lot passes and lower Bull pen tickets have renewed their season tickets.... :-( :foottap:

I wish more Platinum lot people would get upset about the lockout!
 
Dr2bKay said:
I just got off the phone with the Texans ticket office and they said that the lockout has not impacted their projected sales.... Apparently everyone with Platinum lot passes and lower Bull pen tickets have renewed their season tickets.... :-( :foottap:

I wish more Platinum lot people would get upset about the lockout!
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Sorry Kay, you know us....we put the FAN in fanatic! :texflag:
 
Dr2bKay said:
I just got off the phone with the Texans ticket office and they said that the lockout has not impacted their projected sales.... Apparently everyone with Platinum lot passes and lower Bull pen tickets have renewed their season tickets.... :-( :foottap:

I wish more Platinum lot people would get upset about the lockout!
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It is obvious that the owners' own self-induced business insecurity led to policies that were meant to purposely generate insecurity on their loyal season ticket holders..........something that in many other contexts would be referred to as out and out "blackmail."
 
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