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Texans zero in on drafting a top-quality cornerback

mussop said:
I know players play hurt all the time but it seems lime this guy is always nursing an injury. Ill say it again, if we pick this guy with our first pick everyone involved should be fired on the spot.

If he is the BPA then trade down. Period!!
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He must've not been that bad injury wise.....he only missed one start during his entire college career. I also don't see where playing hurt is a knock against you. If you can't play hurt, you can't play in the NFL period. LOL, look at all the players who get offseason surgeries for injuries that they played with all season. It's a part of the game. So for me, he actually gets bonus points for his toughness to play through injuries...and his ability to perform at a high level with those injuries.
 
devo-x said:
Texans need Safety help more than CB

Who was the last Safety drafted by the Texans?
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How many safeties in this draft are worth the #11 pick? There's actually supposed to be a good group of safeties available in the 2nd round.


I disagree with you though....I think CB is the #1 need, a solid veteran CB that is.
 
Texan_Bill said:
Nothing says failure more than drafting the same position in two consecutive years. :toropalm:

C'mon now!!
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LOL, this is so true.

Reggie Williams....Matt Jones

Charles Rodgers....Roy Williams....Mike Williams.....Epic Fail (Do we have a Matt Millen face palm? Every board league wide should have one)
 
mussop said:
I know players play hurt all the time but it seems lime this guy is always nursing an injury. Ill say it again, if we pick this guy with our first pick everyone involved should be fired on the spot.

If he is the BPA then trade down. Period!!
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Is that your only reason why you don't like Jones? Because he has a foot injury right now? Dude is a playmaker, a play maker that we desperately. Walters is not a legit no. 2 and if Andre goes down you want to make him your no 1? Scary.

mussop said:
So we would be starting off next season with prince and Jackson as our starting cornerbacks? Brilliant!!! Thats Almost as stupid as drafting a wr with our first pick.

The only legitimate moves this team can make are, moving up and drafting the highest rated defensive front seven player that Can have an immediate impact and blow a boatload of money in FA to make up for the picks lost

OR

Stay put and see if one of those players fall to them. If not trade down and stockpile as many picks as possible and hope they can find some gems AND spend a boatload of money in FA.

Anything other than that and no one will be able to convince me that this team really wants to win now.
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It takes two to tango in a trade. Everyone in the whole drafts wants to trade down because they've seen the Patriots score mass amounts of picks. It seems to me all the great IMPACT players will be gone at 11 and the ones left will be project (high potential, high risk players) on the defensive of the ball. Which is why we should address Saftey, Cornerback in FA and get a player that has little risk (Jones) but still can help us immediately.
 
thunderkyss said:
I agree with that, but if we failed, we failed. Lying about it doesn't help.
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No it doesn't help, but what happens when you royally screw up or get caught in a lie by your girlfriend? You don't try to sell her the same crap.....you go out and buy a ring/bracelet or pick up a dozen roses.

In other words, instead of just giving us the same ol same ol burn out draft picks. Start backing up some of those collosel failures by spending some real cheese in FA. Picking up a proven player would be a nice way to save face after a horrible draft pick (and yes I'm already writing Kareem Jackson off as a Bust......after just one year (which I've never done before) THAT is how bad he was and how much he looked like he didn't even belong in the UFL, much less the NFL.)

"Best NFL ready corner" :toropalm:
 
devo-x said:
Texans need Safety help more than CB

Who was the last Safety drafted by the Texans?
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Troy Nolan, 7th round, 2009.
Dominique Barber, 6th round, 2008.
Brandon Harrison, 5th round, 2007.
C.C. Brown, 6th round, 2005.
Glen Earl, 4th round, 2004.

Maybe we should stick to FA safeties.
 
They can play Deion and Lester Hayes at corner and it wouldnt matter. If you cant get consistent pressure on the qb, lb's who can shrink windows, or safeties who can cover chunks of the field on the backend, it doesnt matter.
 
leebigeztx said:
They can play Deion and Lester Hayes at corner and it wouldnt matter. If you cant get consistent pressure on the qb, lb's who can shrink windows, or safeties who can cover chunks of the field on the backend, it doesnt matter.
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Yeah, but getting pressure on the QB isn't just about pressure from the Dline or even LBers. Where are all the coverage sacks? With all the spread college like offenses that are now in the league today, you have to be able to cover for longer than 3 seconds. They go hand in hand. When your CBs are falling all over the field, it greatly reduces your chances at getting sacks or pressure.
 
The Pencil Neck said:
Troy Nolan, 7th round, 2009.
Dominique Barber, 6th round, 2008.
Brandon Harrison, 5th round, 2007.
C.C. Brown, 6th round, 2005.
Glen Earl, 4th round, 2004.

Maybe we should stick to FA safeties.
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How could you forget Matt Stevens (originally a 3rd rounded-87th pick-1996) and picked in 2002 by Casserly and Co. (just like a "draft" pick).:toropalm:
 
thunderkyss said:
I agree with that, but if we failed, we failed. Lying about it doesn't help.
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Lying about what?? We suck in the draft????

Honestly, at the end of the day, I think Kareem will be okay (Not thrinking he'll be great or anything like that. I do really do). However, if we're targeting another corner after drafting Kareem and not addressing other areas in our "D"......... Huge FAIL!
 
Texan_Bill said:
Lying about what?? We suck in the draft????

Honestly, at the end of the day, I think Kareem will be okay (Not thrinking he'll be great or anything like that. I do really do). However, if we're targeting another corner after drafting Kareem and not addressing other areas in our "D"......... Huge FAIL!
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So do I...as in I hope he succeeds, just am not counting on it.
 
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Texan_Bill said:
Lying about what?? We suck in the draft????

Honestly, at the end of the day, I think Kareem will be okay (Not thrinking he'll be great or anything like that. I do really do). However, if we're targeting another corner after drafting Kareem and not addressing other areas in our "D"......... Huge FAIL!
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If Wade & Smith think we have a #1 corner on this team, that's fine. If we're still in need of a #1 corner, we're still in need of a #1 corner.

If that means we need to trade back up into the bottom of the first to get him, then that's what we need to do. If they think Amukamara is the guy & he falls to us, they need to pull the trigger.

If they think McMannis can be that #1, that's fine.

I don't care how we get him, I'm just saying I wouldn't not draft a potential #1 corner just because I screwed the pooch last year. If it's still a whole, & it's just as big as any other whole, treat it accordingly.
 
thunderkyss said:
If Wade & Smith think we have a #1 corner on this team, that's fine. If we're still in need of a #1 corner, we're still in need of a #1 corner.

If that means we need to trade back up into the bottom of the first to get him, then that's what we need to do. If they think Amukamara is the guy & he falls to us, they need to pull the trigger.

If they think McMannis can be that #1, that's fine.

I don't care how we get him, I'm just saying I wouldn't not draft a potential #1 corner just because I screwed the pooch last year. If it's still a whole, & it's just as big as any other whole, treat it accordingly.
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We really need to just sign a CB. The FA field is too loaded not to land a for sure number 1 guy. I don't believe we can go another season with a rook no.1 and their growing pains.
 
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