This would be the perfect result.
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Will Muschamp Out To Coach Florida
- Thread starter gary
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This would be the perfect result.
Texecutioner
Hall of Fame
No doubt. They'll probably hire some great coaches, but Muschamp is a guy that I'm huge fan of and I was looking very forward to him being the next HC here. He's my kind of coach and he's going to keep Florida at the top for a very long time. Losing Muschamp for the long haul is a big blow to me as a fan. He was the best and hardest working recruiter on the Texas staff as well along with Applewhite.
Doppelganger
None
What do you think of the reports circling that Randy Shannon will step into the DC role?
bah007
Hall of Fame
Supposedly true. He is a good friend of Mack Brown's and was Texas' first choice for DC back in 07. But he took the Miami job and Texas took Muschamp.
Texecutioner
Hall of Fame
It's a good hire, but he's no Muschamp if you ask me. I'm more worried about the fact that this will probably keep Mack Brown around longer now which is always a liability to the Longhorns with that guy running your team. I was hoping that the only reason why Muschamp had stuck around as long as he did was because he had a clear time table as to when Mack was going to retire behind closed doors. Muschamp is going to be one of those next top dogs in college football like Saban, Stoops, and Meyer became. The guy is a hard working recruiter and brings intensity to the entire team. Regardless of who we get as assistants right now, we'll be stuck with Mack Brown longer most likely and who knows who will be the next HC after that. I'd prefer a guy like Leach if he could ever make defense a priority.
Texan_Bill
Hall of Fame
Doppelganger is correct. Jimbo Fisher was named "Head Coach in Waiting", long before Muschamp ever was.
El Tejano
Hall of Fame
Eh...A&M is kind of a Houston team so it wont every shift entirely. Plus Kubiak went there.
Showtime100
Got JJ?
As a Cougar fan I disagree, if not resent that. I would bet A&M folks feel the same way, good times.
I also am beginning to wonder about Florida. Muschamp isn't what I see as HC material at a bigtime program.
Just an opinion Texas, not hating on you. (Stupid I feel I need to say that)
Carr Bombed
Hall of Fame
LOL and what is wrong with Mack Brown?
Name the amount of coaches in college football who have won more games than Mack Brown during his time at Texas....that guy is anything but a liability. Mack Brown can remain the head coach as long as he wants to.
Also, when did Will Muschamp become irreplaceable? His defense was nothing special this season, he basically only had one good year at Texas. I'm actually more excited about Randy Shannon who is just as good of a recruiter as Will Muschamp is.
Texecutioner
Hall of Fame
Come on CB. You're a guy that I would expect not to be fooled by a guy like Mack Brown. One of the dumbest game day coaches I've ever witnessed in my history of watching football. Worse than Kubes actually. The guy is a great recruiter, but has been more loyal to GD and certain players than to his own team's success. I could go back years and years to provide examples. Mack was out of a job until VY saved it when he arrived and everyone knows that. Before VY got there, he was known as the most under achieving coach in the NCAA. The Sooner fans still love the guy. Mack's padded his record off of playing teams with waaaaay less talent than what he's got to work with. Texas has been way ahead of every team other than Oklahoma as far as talent goes and the Big 12 has't been anything to be afraid of other than that one season two years ago. Remember when Mack Brown was known as the guy who couldn't ever win the big one?? VY's heroics changed that persona. Mack is the typical HC that does less with more instead of more with less.
And without a great DC like a Muschamp who can provide a ton of grit to this team and intensity that Mack and Davis never could bring to the players or a dynamic player like a VY to put the team on his back, Texas will most likely never win a NC again until Mack retires and a better HC comes in.
His defense didn't do as well because the offense could never keep them off the field and sustain drives. They also put the defense in horrible position all of the time to the point that it demoralized them by the end of the season. Hard to stay as a top tier unit when your offense is so bad and your HC refuses to even see what the other QB's can do. Muschamp is a fantastic DC doesn't pamper his players like he's their grandpa like Mack Brown does.
As much as I can't stand GD, Mack was a large part of the reason that GD's offense was as bad as it was. He constantly medaled with it and wanted to change an entire scheme without the personal to do it with.
Carr Bombed
Hall of Fame
In the past 5 years alone........he's won a national championship, was a bullcrap conference tie breaker rule from appearing in another national championship game, and made it to another national championship game, which he lost because his QB got knocked out of the game.
Sorry, but that's where you lose me......results are results and Mack Brown has produced more results than just about every other coach in the country. He can stay at Texas as long as he keeps winning and one down year does not make him a crappy coach.
VY didn't single handedly win that championship game. I seem to remember a certain 4th & 2 play and a great game by Michael Huff as well as other players that Mack recruited.......didn't Mack Brow also recruit VY?
And when did Muschamp become this "GREAT DC". We had a great year when he had talent, when the talent left his defense was average. I'm not saying that he wasn't a good coach, because he was and he deserves a shot. I just don't think that he's irreplaceable......especially at a school like Texas where you can always attract great coaching. I actually think Randy Shannon will be a better coach (because he has a better track record) and he's just as good of a recruiter.
The problem with the defense can't be solely blamed on the offense.... LOL, remember the UCLA game?
There has been plenty of dominant defensive teams that had bad offenses. Nebraska has had a few of those teams the last couple of seasons. The fact is that Muschamp's defense wasn't that dominant this season and it wasn't just because of the offense. They struggled, took a step back, and just about everybody moved the ball on them.
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Ole Miss Texan
Hall of Fame
I don't think Texas is finished by any means, I just think their dominance is beginning to fade. The other teams in the Bix XII south are becoming better, OU, A&M, OK. St., we'll see what Tubs can do in Tech. I see undefeated seasons or 1 loss seasons extremely unlikely for UT going forward.
They've had a great run. They just had a down year. They may even go to the Cotton Bowl or Holiday Bowl next year... I just think they're unlikely to go to another National Championship soon. They'll have their work cut out for them every year just to get to the Big XII championship game. They've had great recruiting classes and I think will continue to get top recruits, but the other teams are improving... starting to catch up too.
If they do go, despite my beliefs... more power to them. I'd be the first to say congrats and that they traveled a really tough path. I'm not rooting against them at all, I'm just telling it like I see it.
Going with the Boise OC and Shannon as DC would be huge boosts. How much longer is Mack going to be HC?
Mr teX
Hall of Fame
Come on CB, You know as well as i do that Brown likely doesn't win the NC without that kid's superman like efforts throughout the year & in the actual NC game. Yes, for arguments sake he literally didn't go out there 1 vs 11 & win it by himself but to attempt to downplay that dude's significance not only to that season but in mack brown's career is not being truthful about what made that team go & how that 1 season solidified Brown's career...& this is coming from someone who can't stand UT or VY. On top of all that, he still nearly screwed that up by not immediately incorporating packages in the offense to better utilize VY's talents....the zone read.
The fact that he's known across the NCAA as a great recruiter & not a great recruiter & coach speaks volumes.
Tex is correct in that he was always viewed as the guy who couldn't win the big one; not really sure how you can refute that. Its also just as likely that he's viewed the same way if VY doesn't put up arguably the greatest single game/season a qb has ever had.
Carr Bombed
Hall of Fame
When did I try to downplay VY's performance.. It was one of the greatest individual performances in sports history, but don't all National title teams have great players on them? You have to have great players to be able to win a national championship. I just saying that there were PLENTY of other big plays made in that game that didn't involve Vince Young.
Also, Mack DID win the big one.......and then he made it back to another championship game without the great Jesus in cleats :kubepalm: During his time at Texas, he's 3-1 in BCS bowl games and the one loss was when McCoy got knocked out early
Mack Brown shut up his critics a LONG time ago. Anybody who really thinks he's a crappy coach or hasn't done a good job at Texas simply isn't being fair to the man and his accomplishments at Texas. How many top coaches in the country have never even been to a title game? Up until this season Mack Brown had a 9 year double digit win streak going and I'm pretty sure black Jesus didn't play 9 seasons at Texas.
Look, am I saying that he's the greatest coach ever.....no, but he isn't a bad coach and he hasn't been a liability at Texas. Will Muschamp has a LONG way to go in his career before he can be compared to someone as accomplished as Mack Brown and I like Muschamp. I like his energy, but after awhile you have to do more than just yell and look like a maniac on the sidelines. His defense fed off that energy in '09, but I didn't like some of the stuff I saw in '10.
Doppelganger
None
This is of course based on the assumption that the Big XII stays together. I could see the Big XII collapsing and UT going independent. Notre Dame has a rule that they are guaranteed a BCS bowl if they finish in the top 8. I could see UT getting a similar deal to go independent.
With an independent schedule, they would schedule a meeting with OU and A&M yearly. They could also schedule a couple other non traditional BCS schools like an Arizona or Iowa State. They could throw in a couple solid BCS schools and then round the schedule with "cream puffs." If they can get through a schedule like that with 1 loss, they should be a top 8 ranked program.
Remember, the most important thing to the BCS is not quality of football but size of fan base and whether they will travel. Texas is big on each. Just like ND.
Doppelganger
None
I am starting to wonder if the Randy Shannon talk was just talk. If there was something there, I would think a deal would have been made?
I don't think they could announce anything before Muschamp's formal announcement that he is leaving.
Dutchrudder
Hall of Fame
Blake
MMQB
Well the Shannon to Kentucky talk has died down. So who knows. Maybe its still true.
Who?
Didn't he just get hired there this year?
axman40
Hall of Fame
http://www.statesman.com/sports/lon...r-search-could-point-to-floridas-1118659.html
Could Texas and Florida be pulling the old switcheroo?
We know Will Muschamp is bound for Florida as the Gators' head coach. But could Teryl Austin, Florida's first-year defensive coordinator, be headed to Texas as Muschamp's replacement as the Longhorns' coordinator?
On the day Texas posted the defensive coordinator vacancy on the university's job website, Austin soared Monday from virtually nowhere to near the top of the speculative heap. Those two circumstances were somewhat related.
Included in the "preferred qualifications" category of the job posting were a minimum 12 years of coaching at the NCAA Division I-A level and seven years of NFL coaching experience.
Austin, as it turns out, just completed his 13th year as a college assistant, and has spent seven years as a defensive backs coach in the NFL.
Could Texas and Florida be pulling the old switcheroo?
We know Will Muschamp is bound for Florida as the Gators' head coach. But could Teryl Austin, Florida's first-year defensive coordinator, be headed to Texas as Muschamp's replacement as the Longhorns' coordinator?
On the day Texas posted the defensive coordinator vacancy on the university's job website, Austin soared Monday from virtually nowhere to near the top of the speculative heap. Those two circumstances were somewhat related.
Included in the "preferred qualifications" category of the job posting were a minimum 12 years of coaching at the NCAA Division I-A level and seven years of NFL coaching experience.
Austin, as it turns out, just completed his 13th year as a college assistant, and has spent seven years as a defensive backs coach in the NFL.
Doppelganger
None
I don't know much about Austin. Is he any good? Is he a big enough name to calm recruits? Can he bring in some defensive players from Florida?
Stemp
Brew Master
I guess he's ok, but certainly not a big or well known guy as he's only had 1 year as DC. Florida went 7-5 and gave up 30+ points 5 times.
Doppelganger
None
I have a feeling Mack is waiting for teams to finish their bowl games before he either seeks permission to hire or announce one.
mr. peebs
gig 'em
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enjoy
and some teaser photos...