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im done with schaub

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If Shaub makes better decisions and throws to keep drives extended we wouldnt have to see our **** defense.
 
Matty will get another year with or without Kubes

SInce he a a Major Cop out he plays on a team that has the worst D in history

and a new OC this year
 
Mr teX said:
See this is the problem i have with some in here. Not saying you Hervey, but aside from 3-4 qbs in the league, all qbs are bothered by these things. Why is that looked at as a problem that only he has?

& For the record, he made many plays with pressure bearing down on him. You're not going to make them all. The guy also almost never gets a short field to work with either. I just can't fathom why some in here think that every team has a manning/brady under center that is immune to pressure.
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It's not that, it's the dumb, mental mistakes Schaub makes consistently that irritate folks. Instead of running for the wide open first down again for the second week, he tries to throw it on the run and skips it or throws a uncatchable ball that kills a drive. Constantly holding on to the ball far too long, under throwing receivers constantly....

and this is just to name a few....
 
TheMatrix31 said:
LOL. Trading Schaub for Kevin Kolb.
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Don't people realize that he was only the starter for the Eagles the first two weeks before losing his spot to Vick? Schaub is one of the last players Houston should be replacing. The offense is constantly scoring twenty points a week. If the defense would hold the other team with less than thirty this team would win a lot more games.
 
BullNation4Life said:
It's not that, it's the dumb, mental mistakes Schaub makes consistently that irritate folks. Instead of running for the wide open first down again for the second week, he tries to throw it on the run and skips it or throws a uncatchable ball that kills a drive. Constantly holding on to the ball far too long, under throwing receivers constantly....

and this is just to name a few....
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I get it, but i just can't get on a guy when every time he hits the field, he absolutely has to lead his team down for a TD or its pretty much all over. Sometimes you need another facet of the team to pick you up. How about a TD return special teams? How about an int and a short field D? I mean truthfully, the guy always has to drive 75 + yards to score. Manning & Brady don't even do that stuff.
 
TheMatrix31 said:
LOL. Trading Schaub for Kevin Kolb.
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YUP in a heartbeat....

Has a far better arm and has already shown he can win games in the limited time he got to play....

you LOL but that kid is gonna get traded somewhere and be a winner and we Texans fans will be stuck with a QB that cannot even hit a WR in stride....
 
Next thread. Matt is far from the problem.

You want to talk about overrated players, talk about Pollard. The 30 yard pass the Jackson caught(which led to Philly getting the lead) was solely because he ran right past Pollard like he wasn't even there.

I still have faith in Pollard (not as a everydown guy), but I think he is a big reason our secondary is playing how they are.
 
Mr teX said:
I get it, but i just can't get on a guy when every time he hits the field, he absolutely has to lead his team down for a TD or its pretty much all over. Sometimes you need another facet of the team to pick you up. How about a TD return special teams? How about an int and a short field D? I mean truthfully, the guy always has to drive 75 + yards to score. Manning & Brady don't even do that stuff.
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That I will agree on, he does get the short end of the stick when it comes to field position, but fact remains, he makes far too many mental mistakes that kill drives for his team. That is something you don't see Manning, Brady or even Brees and Rivers make and if he wants to be in that class, he needs to find a way to eliminate those mistakes....
 
BullNation4Life said:
That I will agree on, he does get the short end of the stick when it comes to field position, but fact remains, he makes far too many mental mistakes that kill drives for his team. That is something you don't see Manning, Brady or even Brees and Rivers make and if he wants to be in that class, he needs to find a way to eliminate those mistakes....
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he's not that class of qb....not even kolb is.

:kubepalm:

how about we get a defense first.
 
fiasco west said:
Next thread. Matt is far from the problem.

You want to talk about overrated players, talk about Pollard. The 30 yard pass the Jackson caught(which led to Philly getting the lead) was solely because he ran right past Pollard like he wasn't even there.

I still have faith in Pollard (not as a everydown guy), but I think he is a big reason our secondary is playing how they are.
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already have in the Bearnard Pollard thread.... 8 red zone TDs given up by ol' "BoneCrusher" and 0 picks
 
fiasco west said:
Next thread. Matt is far from the problem.

You want to talk about overrated players, talk about Pollard. The 30 yard pass the Jackson caught(which led to Philly getting the lead) was solely because he ran right past Pollard like he wasn't even there.

I still have faith in Pollard (not as a everydown guy), but I think he is a big reason our secondary is playing how they are.
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Agree...

So KC was on to something regarding Pollard. Fantastic in the box, oustide... ehhh.. not so much.
 
GuerillaBlack said:
Schaub has led us on too many comebacks and has shown he is a leader for me to give up on him. But, he does make too many dumb mistakes at times.
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I have to agree with that. He can make the plays, but he has extremely poor pocket awareness and doesn't protect the ball. Sometimes I just wish he could at least slide around in the pocket, but I know he doesn't always have anywhere to go because his starting C is usually 4 yards in the backfield.
 
panamamyers said:
Schaub has had the traits of a loser since the day he got here.
He just has absolutely no traits that a winner has.

He folds up under pressure. He never rises to the occasion. He just simply is not very good, bless his heart. He tries.....
He just is not good.
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One of the guidelines for posting here is to attack the post, not the poster.

This has to be one of the worst posts ever. Obviously, whoever penned this abomnimation of a post has never watched any Texans football over the last 3 years...

Right now, I am nail spitting mad, and pretty drunk too, but you can kiss my ass dumb****!
 
97roc said:
Agree...

So KC was on to something regarding Pollard. Fantastic in the box, oustide... ehhh.. not so much.
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Get Pollard to start overtraining, put some weight on him and make him a LB. He isn't a starting caliber S for an NFL team.

Of course we don't field an NFL defense so maybe he's ok here.
 
TexanBacker93 said:
Get Pollard to start overtraining, put some weight on him and make him a LB. He isn't a starting caliber S for an NFL team.

Of course we don't field an NFL defense so maybe he's ok here.
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Pollard would make an amazing WLB if he bulked up...now THERE's a thought.
 
Mr. Texan said:
he's not that class of qb....not even kolb is.

:kubepalm:

how about we get a defense first.
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must return the :kubepalm: with 2 :kubepalm::kubepalm: for lack of reading comprehension....

Never said he was in that class in fact I think I said he would not be in that class due to the constant mental mistakes that not even Manning, Brady or Brees and Rivers make that kill drives for their teams....
 
BullNation4Life said:
must return the :kubepalm: with 2 :kubepalm::kubepalm: for lack of reading comprehension....

Never said he was in that class in fact I think I said he would not be in that class due to the constant mental mistakes that not even Manning, Brady or Brees and Rivers make that kill drives for their teams....
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you're comparing him to those qb's.

:kubepalm:

why compare him to brady or manning? hes not those type of qb's so why should their name be brought up?

yall want schaub to be flawless to overcompensate for a TERRIBLE defense? i can't believe this logic
 
How about Charlie Batch or Dennis dexion ????????????? AJ freely ????

Dat backup from the jets carson Palmer


U know who i would jump on right now VY yup hate him all u want VY does win
 
BullNation4Life said:
It's not that, it's the dumb, mental mistakes Schaub makes consistently that irritate folks. Instead of running for the wide open first down again for the second week, he tries to throw it on the run and skips it or throws a uncatchable ball that kills a drive. Constantly holding on to the ball far too long, under throwing receivers constantly....

and this is just to name a few....
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he was'nt getting that first down. Just because an announcer says something does'nt make it so.
 
DO u think we need another good QB next year to at least put pressure on scahub next year

Becasue these Scrubs Dano and MattyL who came from losing teams arent going 2 do nothing IMO at least here
 
Norg said:
How about Charlie Batch or Dennis dexion ????????????? AJ freely ????

Dat backup from the jets carson Palmer


U know who i would jump on right now VY yup hate him all u want VY does win
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LOL. Is this English?

And if all VY does is win, then he'd still be the QB of the Titans right now. Instead, he's injured, a locker room cancer, and a primadonna ***** who's overrated in every way, shape, and form.
 
Mr. Texan said:
you're comparing him to those qb's.

:kubepalm:

why compare him to brady or manning? hes not those type of qb's so why should their name be brought up?

yall want schaub to be flawless to overcompensate for a TERRIBLE defense? i can't believe this logic
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and what kind of QB is that, Elite? I KNOW HE ISN'T and he NEVER will be with the mistakes he constantly makes. What the hell is so hard about understanding that logic? Schaub could EASILY be ranked up there with those QBs if he wasn't constantly killing drives with his stupid mistakes...

:kubepalm::mariopalm::wadepalm:
 
97roc said:
Agree...

So KC was on to something regarding Pollard. Fantastic in the box, oustide... ehhh.. not so much.
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Pretty much sums him up, good defensive player though. Texans need a DC that realizes this, Pollard should not play on what looks to be passing down. Steelers and Ravens have situational players, works out just fine for them.

One other thing, Flacco and Sanchez are not elite QBs either, look at where their teams are at. Garrard is far from that, in fact if VY was still QB for the Titans he'd be the worst QB in the division IMO and yet his team is leading the division.

Matt is a above average QB and give him protection and weapons he will go to work. Funny thing is, all this about Schaub when the Texans have to go out and score 30 nearly every game to win.

Nevermind our DTs never get pressure. Our Safeties can't cover anything. Our LBs just seem undisciplined and outside of Cushing and Meco can't tackle.

I'm done with this defense.
 
I think we should probably keep our players that are above average and worry about replacing our players that are below average.
 
TheMatrix31 said:
LOL. Is this English?

And if all VY does is win, then he'd still be the QB of the Titans right now. Instead, he's injured, a locker room cancer, and a primadonna ***** who's overrated in every way, shape, and form.
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Hes really not injured and he just hates Fiser


We need some cancer on this team anywayz ??????????
 
BullNation4Life said:
ok what ever, I'll go back and look at that one he skipped to Walter but last week he had a chance and threw a fast ball off of Foster's head where he could have ran and continued the drive...
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Hey, don't hate on me. I'm with you; I think Schaub should be placed in Don Beebe's House of Speed in the offseason. I'm just saying he wouldn't have made it even if he'd TRIED to run.
 
fiasco west said:
Pretty much sums him up, good defensive player though. Texans need a DC that realizes this, Pollard should not play on what looks to be passing down. Steelers and Ravens have situational players, works out just fine for them.

One other thing, Flacco and Sanchez are not elite QBs either, look at where their teams are at. Garrard is far from that, in fact if VY was still QB for the Titans he'd be the worst QB in the division IMO and yet his team is leading the division.

Matt is a above average QB and give him protection and weapons he will go to work. Funny thing is, all this about Schaub when the Texans have to go out and score 30 nearly every game to win.

Nevermind our DTs never get pressure. Our Safeties can't cover anything. Our LBs just seem undisciplined and outside of Cushing and Meco can't tackle.

I'm done with this defense.
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Sanchez looks good because his defense is solid. Same with Flacco. Put Schaub on those teams and I imagine they'd win more games. I would say that Schaub is a top 10 QB, and that's more than enough to win in the NFL. But no QB, not Joe Montana, Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, (insert hall of famer here) can win when his defense gives up 30+ pts. per game. It's just not possible.

I imagine that this year, Schaub's stats would be even better if our defense could give him the ball more often. The fact of the matter is our defense can't stop anyone and so the offense is never on the field.
 
BullNation4Life said:
and what kind of QB is that, Elite? I KNOW HE ISN'T and he NEVER will be with the mistakes he constantly makes. What the hell is so hard about understanding that logic? Schaub could EASILY be ranked up there with those QBs if he wasn't constantly killing drives with his stupid mistakes...

:kubepalm::mariopalm::wadepalm:
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what the hell is so hard to understand that schaub is not elite but still a solid qb? very few qb's in nfl HISTORY rank up to manning or brady so why compare?

i can't believe people are looking at one of the worse defenses in nfl HISTORY and are trying to act like schaub is the one to blame.
 
DerekLee1 said:
Hey, don't hate on me. I'm with you; I think Schaub should be placed in Don Beebe's House of Speed in the offseason. I'm just saying he wouldn't have made it even if he'd TRIED to run.
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no not hating, just got plays blurred together, so many bad plays they kind of all run together not....

here, have one on me:barman:
 
Stupid thread. Schaub's a great quarterback. When he has an open receiver, he puts it on the money.

Even Manning throws one pick a game. The OP is just being petulant.
 
Mr. Texan said:
what the hell is so hard to understand that schaub is not elite but still a solid qb? very few qb's in nfl HISTORY rank up to manning or brady so why compare?

i can't believe people are looking at one of the worse defenses in nfl HISTORY and are trying to act like schaub is the one to blame.
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Because he could be elite, that is the frustrating part of the whole dam thing. He stops making stupid mistakes constantly that kill drives, he can be elite. The comparison comes form other ELITE Qbs who do not makes those mistake, thus they are ELITE. It is that simple. This is the same QB that led the NFL last season in yardage, so he can throw the ball, he just makes the dumb mistakes.

Schaub isn't to blame but when he does dumb ass thing like he did tonight and has this season, he helping the cause either....
 
hradhak said:
would say that Schaub is a top 10 QB, and that's more than enough to win in the NFL. But no QB, not Joe Montana, Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, (insert hall of famer here) can win when his defense gives up 30+ pts. per game. It's just not possible.
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Oh, they can "win". Just not consistently. Manning and Brady will win shootouts from time to time. But the Pats and Colts are at their best when their defenses are solid. We don't even have a mediocre D.
 
BullNation4Life said:
Because he could be elite, that is the frustrating part of the whole dam thing. He stops making stupid mistakes constantly that kill drives, he can be elite. The comparison comes form other ELITE Qbs who do not makes those mistake, thus they are ELITE. It is that simple. This is the same QB that led the NFL last season in yardage, so he can throw the ball, he just makes the dumb mistakes.

Schaub isn't to blame but when he does dumb ass thing like he did tonight and has this season, he helping the cause either....
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I don't think Schaub can be elite. He is definitely a very good QB, but I don't think he will ever have the on-field awareness to be elite. I'm not done with Schaub, but I wouldn't mind drafting a guy who we could groom for a couple of years. Replacing Schaub at this point would be nearly impossible.
 
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