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Ben Tate done for season (Broken Ankle)
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Honoring Earl 34
Something Witty !
You know ... the way Foster is playing and the depth they have , I'd rather see him redshirt ( I know college term ) than comeback to quick . Besides I think it's good for young players to sit , learn , and get hungry .
Appears so. John Lopez saying the same and Robert Henslee
SportsRadioRH
Now hearing Tate injury is more serious than a high ankle sprain as previously reported. Tune in to SportsRadio 610 for more. #texans
SportsRadioRH
Now hearing Tate injury is more serious than a high ankle sprain as previously reported. Tune in to SportsRadio 610 for more. #texans
SteveSlaton20
Rookie
well, furk.
mexican_texan
Furry Tractors
610 says the same thing.
He's done
He's done
BullNation4Life
All Pro
just got a flash on my blackberry saying fractured ankle...
And so it begins....
And so it begins....
Honoring Earl 34
Something Witty !
I think if you ask CnD he might say a simple fracture is better than a high ankle sprain .
powerfuldragon
Enchilada Aficionado.
sad, sad, sad.
NitroGSXR
Super Sic #58
He's now damaged goods. I don't like players with previous injuries too much. Just look at Slaton. I mean... folks who thought he was coming back strong from neck surgery... LMAO.
Honoring Earl 34
Something Witty !
NitroGSXR
Super Sic #58
If Chris Henry makes the team, I will give myself an enema.
I could not have been more disappointed with his performance tonight. There was one block where he ended up getting himself Meyered silly. I DVRed the game and intend to watch it tonight. I will try and get the time frame of that so called block but it was as clear as day.
It was then... that I realized... we need more RBs. Jeremiah Johnson didn't really look that impressive. Very awkward despite his impressive numbers.
mattieuk
All Pro
I know there are pluses to getting rookies to sit back and learn, but thats gotta be combined with actively participating in practice.
No one redshirts and spends the whole season sitting down with a clipboard.
Although I agree, the kid will be hungry as crap, if he does miss the whole season.
Honoring Earl 34
Something Witty !
Nolan did .
mattieuk
All Pro
Ok, ok you win, lol.
I was talking more along the lines of no one (that I can recall) has a season ending injury their rookie year, and uses the year out to great effect. Although hopefully Nolan will provide Tate with some inspiration!
Jackie Chiles
Veteran
Gotta disagree on Johnson, I thought he looked fantastic. With this injury Henry and Johnson have great shots at making the final cut. I could see Jeremiah being 3rd on the depth chart and Henry being more of a STs guy and emergency depth/mop up. Still three games to sort it out though.
SheTexan
Hall of Fame
Foster cannot carry the load alone! Slaton has not changed, not ONE DAMN bit!! I think the boy has an attention disorder or something! I kept yelling at my TV for the boy to TUCK the ball. What does he do? Gets to the goalline and goes HIGH, does NOT tuck the ball, and fumbles!! I wonder how many times that boy has been told how to carry a ball, and what to do in certain situations! I have my doubts that he's teachable!!!BYE BYE playoff hopes if we depend on SS to play with his head screwed on right! Chris Henry and J Johnson are both big ? ! I think we're in deep doo-dooo at RB. JMO!!
I feel really bad for Ben. His facebook post this off season have been fun, and he was so looking forward to making it big this year, as were all his fans from Auburn. A sad twist of fate.
I feel really bad for Ben. His facebook post this off season have been fun, and he was so looking forward to making it big this year, as were all his fans from Auburn. A sad twist of fate.
In comparison to Chris Hernry he did. *hris may not be a good name for this franchise.
CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
As I pointed out in another thread, I wouldn't be surprised if he had both.
Determination of the type and the exact bone and anatomic location of the fracture have to be made known to determine a shorter vs. longer prognosis. With a high ankle sprain, recovery from the original injury can be unpredictable, yet carries a high risk of subsequent reinjury. We just have to wait for more details.
CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
TexanSam
Hall of Fame
This makes it even worse. You could tell by his facebook updates that he was enjoying his time with the Texans thus far. Then this happens
What luck...I hope he recovers fully and comes back and proves himself next season though!
Brisco_County
Apples and roadmaps
He's young. It'll probably take about four months to heal. He might get some reps at the end of the season.
Schaub2Dre
Practice Squad
Man, this one definitely hurts the most from tonight. I really liked him as person. He basically had me at hello. He was just so personable, like showing the video of him being drafted and him ended up in tears, and he was so incredibly open to talking with fans on facebook and twitter and holding contests and whatnot. It just doesn't feel like any player that got severely injured. It seriously feels like I know the guy and really do feel bad for him. He had such a great future ahead of him this season and seemed so eager to get out there and play. Oh well life goes on, and we are faced with depth problems at the running back position.
powerfuldragon
Enchilada Aficionado.
a fracture that doesn't really bear the load, yeah, maybe even less time. but the ankle's all about dispersing weight. i'm assuming it's one of the tarsals that's fractured, if so, that's one (or more) of like seven or eight bones (not sure) that could be busted. you really gotta make sure your ankle's 100% before you want to make an nfl-level cut on that foot. CnD will be able to explain it better.
zanth91
Noob
The ankle fracture could have also led to ligament damage, which I believe is the case.
TimeKiller
Guest
Wow. Could any bigger of a bubble been burst? ****ing Preseason injuries. God damnit they always take away something good.
TheRealJoker
Hall of Fame
This is terrible news. We are going to need Foster to be a workhorse and someone between Johnson and Henry to step up and steal reps from Slaton. The more chances Slaton gets to touch the ball, the greater risk we have of turning it over.
SS can no longer be trusted. Losing a promising young rookie like Tate is a tough pill to swallow.
SS can no longer be trusted. Losing a promising young rookie like Tate is a tough pill to swallow.
The Pencil Neck
Hall of Fame
And this is why I was saying that the best strategy with running backs (for teams that are focused on running) is to draft running backs early and often.
You just can't have too much talent at that position.
You just can't have too much talent at that position.
Isn't that what happened with Frank Gore?
Besides, I think I know what you mean. No one is happy this happened, I'm sure. But it makes a tough decision easier.
If the plan was to with 4 running backs, that decision has been made. Foster, Slaton, Henry, Johnson. They can even feasibly, put Johnson on the PS, and use that spot for an extra TE.
kiwitexansfan
Hall of Fame
Odd because that is why I would say don't use high picks on backs, use them on OLine so any half talent back can be productive.
TheMatrix31
Hall of Fame
I mean...where's the luck?
False Start
On # 69
Grams
Veteran
Well Henry is not the answer. He looked like he was running in mud.
Johnson looked pretty good - course it was the forth and he was running against the "trying to make the team" players.
Isn't Westbrook still out there? Even older and partially used up, he is a better option than Henry.
Johnson looked pretty good - course it was the forth and he was running against the "trying to make the team" players.
Isn't Westbrook still out there? Even older and partially used up, he is a better option than Henry.
Porky
Hall of Fame
I couldn't be more disappointed. That run Tate made was very impressive prior to the injury, showing a real nice burst, speed and vision.
And considering Steve Slaton's performance, or lack thereof, it makes it all the worse because Steve was about to go at least 3rd and maybe 4th on my depth chart. He looked exactly like last year. I don't know what happened to the guy. He was awesome as a rookie, and has just cratered.
And for a fairly short RB to run so upright and high with the ball exposed like that along the goal line? That's a mistake you forgive a rookie in his first camp, but this is his 3rd rodeo and he is doing that? Severe mental mistake and if he keeps doing that kind of thing, and giving underwhelming performances throughout the preseason it's time to bench him or use him strictly as a 3rd down pass catcher - in space is where he still tends to shine. I sure as hell don't trust him around the goal line.
And considering Steve Slaton's performance, or lack thereof, it makes it all the worse because Steve was about to go at least 3rd and maybe 4th on my depth chart. He looked exactly like last year. I don't know what happened to the guy. He was awesome as a rookie, and has just cratered.
And for a fairly short RB to run so upright and high with the ball exposed like that along the goal line? That's a mistake you forgive a rookie in his first camp, but this is his 3rd rodeo and he is doing that? Severe mental mistake and if he keeps doing that kind of thing, and giving underwhelming performances throughout the preseason it's time to bench him or use him strictly as a 3rd down pass catcher - in space is where he still tends to shine. I sure as hell don't trust him around the goal line.
m5kwatts
Veteran
Jeremiah was running with the 3rd string but he looked way better than Henry did running with the same line and against the same defense. He was noticeably more comfortable in the scheme, he looked like he was playing with his instincts. Henry plays like he's thinking about the defense and it makes him slower on game day than practice.
m5kwatts
Veteran
If you ask me JJ looked better than Slaton last night. Arian and JJ were clearly the 2 backs that ran in our scheme the best. I think the Slaton-Tate back up battle just turned into a Slaton-JJ battle. Henry is still in it but JJ separated himself IMO.
GlassHalfFull
Hall of Fame
The expression on Tate's face as he was carted off made me fear the worst. What a heartbreaking thing to happen. I feel horrible for him and for the team and the fans.
Cjeremy635
Overtraining
This.
Honestly, I didn't think it was going to be this bad when it happened. The initial play and the replay didn't look anything different than 99% of the other players going down when they get tackled. Then I saw him being carted off and I was like, WTF? Just one of those freaky incidents I guess. Hopefully he'll be able to contribute in our playoff run.
Tailgate
Fall of Hame
SUX Dammit. But oh well, he will be forgotten here soon. There was a reason Foster started this game. We will just have to try and not lament the upside that Tate would have brought to this season and remember the couple games at the end of last year...and think thats pretty much what we will see this year from Foster and an improved Slaton.
Joe Texan
Inducted 04
I really want ti wish Ben a speady recovery, he did exactly what we wanted only to have some retard fall on his foot the wrong way.
That being said Slaton has the perfect oppurtunity and he turns in 2.2 yards per carry. I do not see Steve getting any better that 3 string. probabaly cut.
That being said Slaton has the perfect oppurtunity and he turns in 2.2 yards per carry. I do not see Steve getting any better that 3 string. probabaly cut.
I think people are jumping on Steve too soon. This is preseason, week 1. He was out most of last year with a serious cervical injury.
Most players coming off injury have the jitters a little when they get hit that first time. Shouldn't be surprising that he did too.
Give him tons of reps, see if he can work it out.
He's got the most potential of any RB on our squad now. We can't give up on him when the games dont mean anything
Most players coming off injury have the jitters a little when they get hit that first time. Shouldn't be surprising that he did too.
Give him tons of reps, see if he can work it out.
He's got the most potential of any RB on our squad now. We can't give up on him when the games dont mean anything
Pollardized
Division Champ
I hated seeing Tate injured like that. Maybe he should just go home and drink a little milk????
CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
Most of the classic fractures of the main ankle joint are at the lower ends of the lower leg bones (the larger main weight-bearing tibia [shin bone] and smaller fibula that connect to the main ankle bone, the talus.
Here is a simplified illustration of the anatomy.
This illustration demonstrates one classic injury (a fracture of the tail of the fibula), which I include to demonstrate how these fractures typically involve ligament tears, all of which contributes to ankle instability. The tail of the fibula is what you feel as the "inside"/medial ankle bone prominence. On the other side, the tail of the tibia is what you feel as the "outside"/lateral ankle bone prominence.
There are other "ankle bones" besides the talus: calcaneus (the heel bone), the cuboid bone, the navicular bone, and the intermediate, lateral, and medial cuneiform bones. Fortunately, since they many times demonstrate long term poor healing (sometimes non-healing) despite proper treatment, fractures of these bone are relatively uncommon, .
We don't have enough information about the type or location or the stability/instability factors or the treatment necessary (surgical vs casting alone) to make any intelligent prediction of return to play. Keep in mind that my example of fracture (above) involved the fibula. If the fracture involves the tail of the bone of the other side (the tibia), implications of treatment and length of rehab may be quite different, since the tibia bears 90% of weight bearing load, the fibula only 10%.
Just as a relatively uniformed generic look at the problem, I'll make these statements.
Although most people return to normal daily activities, except for sports, within 3 to 4 months, studies have shown that athletes can still be recovering up to 2 years after their ankle fractures. It may take several months for patients to stop limping while they walk. Again, we need more information to determine return to competitive level........and then prognosis will not be entirely predictable...........to be determined only by Tate's unique course.