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UH unveils plan for new Football stadium and Hofheinz upgrade

Mr teX said:
i actually was..with it being THE big state school of Louisiana and all. Regardless, it just goes to what you and i have been saying. Doesn't matter where you're at, criminal turds are everywhere. I'd be interested to see what USC's looks like as their campus is located right next to the infamous Watts neighborhood.
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Exactly!!! There are some people with some sort of agenda to prove a point.....................
and yet, they can't!
 
We can all agree to disagree.

But when I was at OSU there weren't 1-3 gunpoint muggings weekly. ESPECIALLY not daylight muggings in broad open parking lots.

There were way too many time when my wife or I were in a parking lot +/- 30 minutes before or after a violent crime happened in that specific lot.

So my perception because of that is there is a greater chance of a random crime happening to me between my building and the car than at other schools. Whether it has to do with the third ward or not I have no idea, but I think it's not an entirely untrue assumption? But if it is the student body committing those crimes, then UH has some serious issues to address.

As for the Wal-Mart comparison, that would be like if a particular Wal-Mart had a mugging a week, apples and oranges IMHO.
 
Absolutely we can agree to disagree. Although, you brought a knife to a gun fight, because my **** was backed up... :thisbig:


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Yankee_In_TX said:
We can all agree to disagree.

But when I was at OSU there weren't 1-3 gunpoint muggings weekly. ESPECIALLY not daylight muggings in broad open parking lots.

There were way too many time when my wife or I were in a parking lot +/- 30 minutes before or after a violent crime happened in that specific lot.

So my perception because of that is there is a greater chance of a random crime happening to me between my building and the car than at other schools. Whether it has to do with the third ward or not I have no idea, but I think it's not an entirely untrue assumption? But if it is the student body committing those crimes, then UH has some serious issues to address.

As for the Wal-Mart comparison, that would be like if a particular Wal-Mart had a mugging a week, apples and oranges IMHO.
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Exaggerations won't help your case.

I've been in attendance at UH for 5 years now, for both my Bachelor's and Master's degrees, and worked in the library (O'Quinn) of the school you attended for half of that time.

While the crime is awful, and much worse than the naysayers are portraying it as, and the Third Ward is, in fact, ghetto, as opposed to how the naysayers are trying to portray it (I don't know how you could claim to the contrary with a straight face), the amount of crime isn't even close to "1-3 gunpoint muggings weekly."

Hyperbole like that tends to take credibility from an otherwise valid argument.
 
nero THE zero said:
Hyperbole like that tends to take credibility from an otherwise valid argument.
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I wish I had the weekly safety bulletin e-mails still.

even if it wasn't that many, it was enough to make me (and my wife when she attended) constantly freaked out.

But, I'll stop my U of H bashing, go Coogs :)
 
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nero THE zero said:
Exaggerations won't help your case.

I've been in attendance at UH for 5 years now, for both my Bachelor's and Master's degrees, and worked in the library (O'Quinn) of the school you attended for half of that time.

While the crime is awful, and much worse than the naysayers are portraying it as, and the Third Ward is, in fact, ghetto, as opposed to how the naysayers are trying to portray it (I don't know how you could claim to the contrary with a straight face), the amount of crime isn't even close to "1-3 gunpoint muggings weekly."

Hyperbole like that tends to take credibility from an otherwise valid argument.
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I NEVER said the 3rd Ward can't be dangerous. I was merely pointing out the on-campus crime is no worse than any other campus. I did a side by side with LSU and the crime reports are fairly similar. Mix in the fact that UH has a larger student pop than LSU and also that UH is located in an urban area v. Baton Rouge which is a typical college / Capital town (i.e. Austin, Columbia S.C., etc.)
 
Yankee_In_TX said:
I wish I had the weekly safety bulletin e-mails still.

even if it wasn't that many, it was enough to make me (and my wife when she attended) constantly freaked out.

But, I'll stop my U of H bashing, go Coogs :)
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You should've went to South Texas College of Law! ;)
 
Where is UT School of Business located in Houston?
It made your list, TB!

Yankee should have moved to the Woodlands, changed his profession to nursing, and attended the Lone Star College!
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I was at UH studying and working between 1977-1986 and knew over a thousand people. One of my supervisor has a husband who was with HPD and knew the area well.

Given that computing time being a premium back then, my friends and I had to spend late nights on campus throughout the years, with many all-nighters.

Never heard of much that can raise any hair!
Worst thing: I learned that a couple of basketball players were kicked off the team for carrying gun (Braxton Clark and Benny Anders.)
Anders was the next Clyde Drexler. (He was in the same class with Olajuwon.)

Guy was called "Mr Instant Offense".
Had a better outside shot than Drexler.
Shoot free throw better.
Can pass the ball.
Can play tight man on man defense (didn't have it when he first played as a freshman though; all he cared at the beginning was to score.)
Can sky and dunk with the best of them.
Can put on some crazy moves to the basket.
Heir apparent to the Glyde.
We would have won a couple of Champsionship with him next to Akeem.
Dang it!
 
76Texan said:
I was at UH studying and working between 1977-1986 and knew over a thousand people. One of my supervisor has a husband who was with HPD and knew the area well.

Given that computing time being a premium back then, my friends and I had to spend late nights on campus throughout the years, with many all-nighters.

Never heard of much that can raise any hair!
Worst thing: I learned that a couple of basketball players were kicked off the team for carrying gun (Braxton Clark and Benny Anders.)
Anders was the next Clyde Drexler. (He was in the same class with Olajuwon.)

Guy was called "Mr Instant Offense".
Had a better outside shot than Drexler.
Shoot free throw better.
Can pass the ball.
Can play tight man on man defense (didn't have it when he first played as a freshman though; all he cared at the beginning was to score.)
Can sky and dunk with the best of them.
Can put on some crazy moves to the basket.
Heir apparent to the Glyde.
We would have won a couple of Champsionship with him next to Akeem.
Dang it!
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Yeah! I remember him well. He was special and wonder what he is doing now. Such a waste of talent. I thought his last name was Sanders?
 
76Texan said:
I was at UH studying and working between 1977-1986 and knew over a thousand people. One of my supervisor has a husband who was with HPD and knew the area well.

Given that computing time being a premium back then, my friends and I had to spend late nights on campus throughout the years, with many all-nighters.

Never heard of much that can raise any hair!
Worst thing: I learned that a couple of basketball players were kicked off the team for carrying gun (Braxton Clark and Benny Anders.)
Anders was the next Clyde Drexler. (He was in the same class with Olajuwon.)

Guy was called "Mr Instant Offense".
Had a better outside shot than Drexler.
Shoot free throw better.
Can pass the ball.
Can play tight man on man defense (didn't have it when he first played as a freshman though; all he cared at the beginning was to score.)
Can sky and dunk with the best of them.
Can put on some crazy moves to the basket.
Heir apparent to the Glyde.
We would have won a couple of Champsionship with him next to Akeem.
Dang it!
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Larry Micheaux and Michael Young, FTW!!!
 
Baton Rouge is a pit. UH may be in the ghetto of Houston, but all I saw in Baton Rouge was one big ghetto.
 
Dan B. said:
Baton Rouge is a pit. UH may be in the ghetto of Houston, but all I saw in Baton Rouge was one big ghetto.
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To me it's typical small town, Louisiana. I never felt threatened there and walked around town after dark with no worries. I would NOT stray in the 3rd Ward though after dark, alone.
 
I go to UH and I work in the call center, so im sorry if I've been bugging you alumni with my Tier 1 rhetoric.


Go Coogs!

and please donate :D lmao. but yeah i really do work there and I sit and ask ppl for money on the phone for 3 and half hours.
 
gg no re said:
Just want to point out that just the perception of UH being a dangerous campus is bad enough for the school's image, regardless of statistics, facts, or real talk.

Pretty much no way to fix that in the mind of the average person until Third Ward gets demolished.
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Yep. Agreed. As others have posted, people should go into the community before they say anything, but as you have pointed out, its not gonna happen. Perception is Third ward is a dangerous place, so people will not go there to really see it. Only until there is a major renovation project will people consider going in. But a major restoration project will basically transform the Third Ward into something else anyway.
 
awtysst said:
Yep. Agreed. As others have posted, people should go into the community before they say anything, but as you have pointed out, its not gonna happen. Perception is Third ward is a dangerous place, so people will not go there to really see it. Only until there is a major renovation project will people consider going in. But a major restoration project will basically transform the Third Ward into something else anyway.
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USC is in the middle of a very dangerous LA ghetto yet that school doesnt get the same 'bad campus' rap as UH =/. Third ward shouldn't be demolished and a lot of the robberies that happen on campus are committed by students too.

Add the light rail, add more recognition to UH and add the Tier 1 status to the University, the school suddenly looks a lot better.
 
New_Texans said:
USC is in the middle of a very dangerous LA ghetto yet that school doesnt get the same 'bad campus' rap as UH =/. Third ward shouldn't be demolished and a lot of the robberies that happen on campus are committed by students too.

Add the light rail, add more recognition to UH and add the Tier 1 status to the University, the school suddenly looks a lot better.
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I don't know anything about the USC neighborhood. But the perception of UH is that it is not safe. I don't know if a light rail is worth it. I mean how much did the light rail in the medical center cost? Is it used enough to justify the cost? What does "Tier 1 status" mean?
 
awtysst said:
What does "Tier 1 status" mean?
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From all the campaign bombing that I've been getting from UH, tier status relates to the amount of funding the university gets from the state, which means better things for the campus.

IIRC, Rena Khator in December that UH is now in consideration for Tier 1 status or something like that.
 
Where is UH going to get the money to build the new football stadium?

1. John O'quinn's Estate.
2. Massive fundraising shakedown of Alums.
3. Issue Bonds backed by a major increase in the student activity fees.

They couldn't get the $35 million to for the EndZone Club, so $160 million seems to be a stretch.
 
Koolaid Time said:
Where is UH going to get the money to build the new football stadium?

1. John O'quinn's Estate.
2. Massive fundraising shakedown of Alums.
3. Issue Bonds backed by a major increase in the student activity fees.

They couldn't get the $35 million to for the EndZone Club, so $160 million seems to be a stretch.
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Well I can tell you that, for a month that I've worked in the UH Call Center, I've raised about 7,000 dollars from calling alumni. This year im pretty certain the call center alone has raise at least a million dollars. Now, these are the people calling and being annoying on the phone. The alumni association raises a lot more money than we do. Also, we called Donnie Avery the other day, he didn't answer his phone.

I also think this year alone alumni have donated 100 million dollars plus toward the Tier 1 initiative. So, donations are helping a lot and like I said, if we call you or send you a thing in a mail give it a look and consider donating anything helps.
 
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