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Pac-10 might ask Texas and five other Big 12 schools to join

MojoMan said:
I wonder if Nebraska is having any second thoughts after seeing the revised TV deal that the teams in the Big 12 leveraged out of this arrangement.
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I don't think Nebraska will be much better or worse off between the two, but Colorado surely will lose a buttload of money because of this.
 
Yankee_In_TX said:
And I am going to punch every fan in the face who has been whining what an atrosity it is that the Big 10 and Pac 10 don't have conference championships. :kitten:
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lol aight man dont punch me in the face. So what do you dislike about the conference champ games if you dont mind me asking?
 
Dutchrudder said:
Dude, I love the Aggies and all, but I can't imagine A&M recruiting against LSU, Florida and Alabama. There is just no chance that they would compete for recruits until Urban Meyer and Nick Saban quit coaching. Either way, they still have to compete with Mack Brown. I just don't see them getting much better in the near future by jumping to the SEC. Now this year they might be able to do something in the Big 12, but I think the best they will do is #3 in the South.
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They'd still be recruiting all the Texas guys and I think would probably end up being more successful than they are now. They'd be recruiting the same guys that are thinking of going to LSU, Texas, Texas Tech, Oklahoma, etc... except these TEXAS high school kids would be thinking "SEC or PAC 10"??

I agree at first A&M would struggle in the SEC, especially if they had Texas as a non-conference game every year. That would basically be a schedule of Alabama, Auburn, Ole Miss, LSU, Arkansas, Texas + Florida/Georgia/Tennessee and non-conference games. That's brutal.

In the end though, I think A&M would have been a GREAT fit and I wish they would have said "f*ck off, we're going SEC country". As pbat says, part of it is the culture and I think they'd fit great in the conference. Playing against ARK, LSU, Ole Miss, BAMA, Auburn, etc. would be some really really REALLY good football.

Plus, not only would the games be really good, the SEC would be able to branch out into the Texas market more than it is now. Recruiting-wise, I think from a longterm standpoint it would work out in A&M's favor. Plus all the other sports, they'd be able to compete immediately for championships.

I think Texas and A&M both held their hands well through all of this though. Texas seemed to be the frontrunner throwing chips around and trying to strongarm everyone with the mindset they just wanted to buy the pot - larger tv contract. A&M on the otherhand, I think played it as best as anyone. They never really gave their hand away and if the Big 12 stayed, they'd be getting a big boost in annual revenue $'s. If the other schools left for the PAc 10, they could go to the SEC and it'd be a success.

I just wish A&M would have gone, personally..
 
The UT game against Nebraska in Lincoln should be especially interesting this year.
 
Super Mario said:
lol aight man dont punch me in the face. So what do you dislike about the conference champ games if you dont mind me asking?
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I posted this earlier but I think it got lost in the shuffle.

Conference championship games are good for one thing - $$$$.

Those who whined it hurt their national championship chances, well, disband the game then.

And, IMHO I think conference champsionship games create facts to argue against an NCAA playoff - so many games, such a long season, student athletes, etc.

Big 10 is super anti playoff - and I sadly think they're going to institute a conference game - thus the powers that be will have tight control over even more money and a few more excuses why we should stay in the current format.
 
Carr Bombed said:
It's not like the other colleges were forced to stay... Oklahoma has just as much pull and if just a couple of colleges moved (like A&M) they would've easily forced Texas' hand.

But since Texas is consistently the best team in the conference.....they catch all the heat. :rolleyes:
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Agreed. I just totally disagree with the perception that UT alone strong armed every other team in the Big 12 to keep in. OU and OK State were free to leave and neither at least publicly stated a preference. Pretty sure the only reason Tech would've been invited to the PAC-10 would be part of a deal with A&M and UT.

I know Mizzou publicly stated it was in their best interests to keep the Big 12 together. You've got to believe as well schools like Iowa State, K-State, Kansas, and Baylor wanted to keep the conference together or else they would've been shipped off to a much lesser conference.

There is also NO GUARANTEE that creating 4 mega conferences would've forced the NCAA and whomever's hand in creating a playoff system. That's still wild and unfounded speculation.

I want to start a campaign to drop the Big 12 name and make it the Southwest Conference.
 
Goldensilence said:
Agree on the band aid part, but I think it will be a matter of time before what's left of the Big 12 goes for two more teams. I think those 2 are going to be TCU and UH. I just don't see a lot more options (well strong options) outside of those two except maybe trying to poach Arkansas off the SEC.

As a UTEP student I'd love to see us added, but the program just isn't there yet and with Mike Price at the helm it just might not ever get there.
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Price is a good coach but El Paso is a tough, tough place to recruit players to. No coach has ever had lasting success in football at UTEP. I think Tim Floyd will do an excellent job as head coach for basketball but I don't know if that would be enough to entice the Big 12 to offer an invite if they decide to go back to 12 teams.
 
Carr Bombed said:
They didn't want to join the Pac 10, because they wanted their own TV deal......and because they're Texas, they shouldn't have to join somebody else's conference, especially a hippie league like the Pac 10. As soon as they automatically black balled Baylor, just because Baylor is a Christian university I wouldn't absolutely NOTHING to do with the Pac 10.
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Oh come on, that is obviously bull and I'm surprised you fell for it. The Pac-10 didn't want Baylor because they don't bring anything to the table, not because its a faith-based university. If UT could have unloaded Baylor along with CU & NU, your telling me they wouldn't have?

Kind of random, but Dr. Loftin's Facebook page has recently gotten many "warm" messages from A&M fans :D. http://www.facebook.com/bowen.loftin?v=wall&ref=sgm#!/bowen.loftin?v=info&ref=sgm
 
TexanSam said:
Price is a good coach but El Paso is a tough, tough place to recruit players to. No coach has ever had lasting success in football at UTEP. I think Tim Floyd will do an excellent job as head coach for basketball but I don't know if that would be enough to entice the Big 12 to offer an invite if they decide to go back to 12 teams.
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Yeah it is a really tough place to recruit. So I'm not really mad at Price as much as I have hopes to one day be an alum that can point to the football team and at least say yeah they're competitive. For where they are.

I think Floyd will do a good job. I thought it would've been interesting to bring Gillipse back as well. Everyone loves a good comeback

Kulluminatii said:
Oh come on, that is obviously bull and I'm surprised you fell for it. The Pac-10 didn't want Baylor because they don't bring anything to the table, not because its a faith-based university. If UT could have unloaded Baylor along with CU & NU, your telling me they wouldn't have?

Kind of random, but Dr. Loftin's Facebook page has recently gotten many "warm" messages from A&M fans :D. http://www.facebook.com/bowen.loftin?v=wall&ref=sgm#!/bowen.loftin?v=info&ref=sgm
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Goldensilence said:
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Lol, congrats I guess. Your one of the few Longhorn fans I've met online that are happy with the way things have ended up. I believe this Big 12-2 conference will not last, all it has done is delayed the inevitable. Mega conferences are on there way, its just a matter of time.

Now the only question left is...
















which conference will be the first to fall?!?

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Full article: How the Big 12 came back to life



The Big 12 was dead. Gone. No pulse.

The funerals were planned in Lubbock and Austin on Tuesday. And again in Norman and Stillwater on Wednesday. Texas A&M would show its last respects later in the week, when it pushed off for Birmingham, Ala., to pop corks with SEC commissioner Mike Slive.

The Big 12 was so dead. The surviving family - Missouri, Kansas, Kansas State, Iowa State and Baylor - did things you only promise to a dead person. Things you probably don't ever expect to have to pay - like promising the $35 million to $40 million in buyout penalties from Nebraska and Colorado to Texas, Texas A&M and Oklahoma.

(Everyone wants to know how those three get to $20 million guaranteed in the new Big 12-Lite? That's how.)

But let's go back and revisit how a corpse not only regains a heartbeat but goes out and wins a 400-meter race in record time four days after receiving a toe tag.


Wednesday, June 9 - Orangebloods.com reports, according to a source close to the Nebraska Board of Regents, that the Cornhuskers are going to the Big Ten and will make a formal announcement two days later on Friday.

I'm driving home from a live remote radio show and call one of my sources at UT. I'm told president William Powers and athletic director DeLoss Dodds have gathered the coaches at UT and tell them, "We've done all we can to save the Big 12 but were unsuccessful."

A plan to join the Pac-16 is basically laid out.


Thursday, June 10 - The Pac-10 announces it is adding Colorado. Orangebloods.com reports that Nebraska will announce on Friday that it is headed to the Big Ten. And OB also reports that Texas A&M is seriously considering the Southeastern Conference and may be put on the clock to respond to its Pac-10 invitation.

This is the first time it's becoming apparent that Texas A&M might not play ball with the other Big 12 teams being invited to the Pac-10. But, according to top sources, Texas A&M athletic director Bill Byrne is basically assuring Texas that the Aggies will join Texas in the Pac-10. So Texas feels like the Aggies will come around.


Friday, June 11 - Nebraska bolts the Big 12 for the Big Ten and throws Missouri and Texas under the bus in the process. Colorado holds a press conference with Pac-10 commissioner Larry Scott saying the Buffaloes are headed west.

Sources would later say Colorado panicked at this point because the Buffaloes thought they needed to act more quickly than the others because Baylor might be moving in on their invitation to the Pac-10. (Now, Colorado owes $15 million in buyout penalties to the Big 12 that it can't afford.)

Texas schedules a regents meeting for Tuesday at 11 a.m. This meeting is to announce that the Longhorns are going to the Pac-10. Texas Tech officials post a regents meeting for Tuesday as well. Oklahoma and Oklahoma State post regents meetings for Wednesday. All with the expectation of announcing they are heading west to the Pac-10.

Orangebloods.com reports that all four schools (Texas, Texas Tech, Oklahoma State and OU) have confirmed they are heading to the Pac-10 with announcements due after the weekend.


Saturday, June 12 - The focus shifts to College Station. Mike Slive the Southeastern Conference commissioner is in College Station to visit with A&M officials. But A&M athletic director Bill Byrne is nowhere to be found. He's at a family reunion in Idaho.

Suddenly Texas' best source for information from A&M is in doubt. How connected is he to the situation?

According to two of the best sources for Orangebloods.com throughout the Big 12 Missile Crisis, Texas A&M has a vote of at least 6-3 to go to the SEC, and we report that.

Other sources around the Big 12 are starting to say Texas A&M is waiting for Texas to hang itself at the press conference on Tuesday before the Aggies announce their departure for the SEC.

Athletic director DeLoss Dodds and UT women's athletic director Chris Plonsky smell the rat: Texas is going to get blamed for breaking up the Big 12 AND for ripping up the 100-year rivalry with Texas A&M. The Aggies aren't going to the Pac-10. The Aggies aren't budging.

A shot of the president's box at the Texas-TCU NCAA Super Regional baseball game on Saturday tells it all. There was Powers, a Cal graduate who had convinced the Texas Board of Regents the Pac-10 was the right move for academic and athletic reasons, had Plonsky over his left shoulder, leaning into his ear. Dodds was casual and calm with Mack Brown to Dodds' left.

I would joke with Brown on Tuesday that there had to be more going on in that picture than watching baseball. Mack Brown smiled and said, "Nope, just cheering on Texas to beat TCU."

Meanwhile, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State's presidents and athletic directors meet with Pac-10 commissioner Larry Scott in Oklahoma City.


Sunday, June 13 - Texas is starting to get the sense A&M is not turning back from the SEC. That any information it got from Byrne is useless at this point, according to sources. Gene Stallings, A&M System chancellor Mike McKinney and other A&M regents led by Morris Foster, a former ExxonMobil executive, are leading the Aggies toward the SEC.

The notion of separating from Texas is starting to feel invigorating to the Aggie power brokers. Foster likes the idea of A&M being the top research insitution in the SEC. Stallings wants A&M football to connect with history shared by Alabama (Bear Bryant coaching at A&M before winning six national titles at Bama).

And McKinney is ready to collect the paychecks of at least $17.4 million to help get the Ags out of the $16 million hole the athletic department is in.

With the Big 12's obituary seemingly imminent, Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe secures assurances from ABC/ESPN that it will honor its current contract with the Big 12 through 2016 even if the league is 10 members and without a conference championship game. Meaning, all of Colorado's and Nebraska's share of the TV revenue as well as the money from the championship game would now be divided between the 10 schools.

The five schools who appeared to be the pall bearers for the Big 12 - Missouri, Kansas, Kansas State, Iowa State and Baylor - make a commitment to hand over their share of the $35 million to $40 million in penalties to be paid by Nebraska and Colorado to Texas, Oklahoma and Texas A&M.

Now, those three schools are guaranteed to start making $20 million immediately. No waiting. No fuss no muss - $20 million.

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Wow...they could totally turn this into a movie if they wanted to :kitten:.
 
Goldensilence said:
Yeah it is a really tough place to recruit. So I'm not really mad at Price as much as I have hopes to one day be an alum that can point to the football team and at least say yeah they're competitive. For where they are.

I think Floyd will do a good job. I thought it would've been interesting to bring Gillipse back as well. Everyone loves a good comeback
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I really don't see how you read his post and get the idea that he is whining or crying.
 
Yankee_In_TX said:
Bebe explain where the $ is coming from yet?
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It sounds like it's primarily from 2 sources: (1) ABC/ESPN will honor the contract through 2016. They'll be paying the full amount of the contract, only it will be disbursed to 10 teams instead of 12 (each team gets a bigger cut)... and (2) in order to keep the Big 12 together, the "desperate teams" (Missouri, Kansas, Kansas State, Iowa State and Baylor) supposedly made a commitment give up their share of the Nebraska/Colorado penalties and that monies will go only to Texas, Oklahoma and Texas A&M for staying.
 
Dutchrudder said:
I really don't see how you read his post and get the idea that he is whining or crying.
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Did you visit the facebook page?

I wasn't referring to his post.

Far as being happy about the Big 12 staying...eh... I wouldn't say happy more as I just don't see the allure of 4 mega conferences running college football. I mean it's already lopsided at 6.

Admittedly, maybe I'm just missing the dots, but I keep hearing/seeing some people talking about how it would create a playoff system.
 
Goldensilence said:
Did you visit the facebook page?

I wasn't referring to his post.

Far as being happy about the Big 12 staying...eh... I wouldn't say happy more as I just don't see the allure of 4 mega conferences running college football. I mean it's already lopsided at 6.

Admittedly, maybe I'm just missing the dots, but I keep hearing/seeing some people talking about how it would create a playoff system.
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Yeah, that Facebook page is a mess, a lot of people want "answers"...or else! :bat:

Hell one Aggie fan sent this message to Bill Bryne, and if I'm not mistaken, he's the AD of A&M.

Hey *********s

I am a third generation aggie and class of '06. my family and I, including many extend family members have had season tickets at kyle field for up to 20 yrs.

We also tailgate spending a lot of time and money during the fall in college station. That all ended today

We are canceling our season tickets and will never again donate to the 12th man until there is all new board of regents minus Gene Stallings, a new ad, new president (that guy is a disgrace).

Dollar bill, I hope you have time to pull your tongue out of dodds butt to read this email

Sincere regards
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Now the funny part is...he got a response. And it has already been put up online for your listening pleasure: http://www.suspectclothing.com/gigem/billbyrne.m4a

Anyway, the main reason I wanted the mega conference to happen was because I wanted Cal to be a part of it. It would have changed the entire landscape of CFB. Plus being able to play the likes of UT, A&M, OU, and TT would have been nice. Also, easier access to Texas recruits wouldn't have been that bad of a deal either :D.
 
I can't believe the A&M faithful is mad that they didn't go to the SEC. You are already irrelevant in the Big12, how stupid do you have to be to think you could become relevant in the SEC? yeah, you wouldn't get your ass worked every year by Texas, OU, Tech, and soon Baylor but instead you would get your ass worked every year by every member of the SEC this side of Vandy.

Delusion is delusion, but this delusional spell is off the charts. Be happy that Texas saved you from going to the Pac10, which admittedly wasn't a good fit for 50's era uber-conservative A&M, and be happy that they got you enough money to cover your debts.

I don't hate A&M and I think its a great school but to act like your football team would have done anything in the SEC is just myopia to the Nth degree. Ask Arkansas how well going to the SEC is working for them, and their program is light years ahead of yours.

The best bet for A&M to have success is the following:
1. Stop whining about being in the Big12.
2. Keep recruiting well.
3. Get a new coach. (would love for you to get Kubiak, his act might work in college)
4. Concentrate on beating Tech and Baylor first, then worry about OU and UT.
5. Stop acting like you are a football power. You used to be arguably #1 in the state of Texas but that day has long since passed. Be happy with what Texas and OU got you and be happy that you weren't treated like red headed stepchildren like Tech, Baylor, and the rest of the Big12 were.

You got the facilities, you got the money, you got the fertile recruiting grounds of Texas, you just have to reassess yourselves honestly and maybe modernize the programs and maybe put a spin on the some of the traditions. I think some of the traditions may put off some of the inner city youth/modern student athletes too.

I just am sick of the Aggies complaining like Texas somehow screwed them over. Nothing could be further from the truth. Part of me wishes A&M would have gone to the SEC because it would have been hilarious to see some of these people living in the past have to eat some serious crow after getting worked over on a weekly basis by every team in the SEC. Oh and you would have lost one of the traditions (and one of the few TV slots you have managed to hold onto) and that is the UT v Texas A&M game. You lose that and your lucky to be on TV once a year...and that means. NO RECRUITS!

wake up and smell reality, A&M and fix your program before you blame everyone else for your failures.
 
Kulluminatii said:
Now the funny part is...he got a response. And it has already been put up online for your listening pleasure: http://www.suspectclothing.com/gigem/billbyrne.m4a

Anyway, the main reason I wanted the mega conference to happen was because I wanted Cal to be a part of it. It would have changed the entire landscape of CFB. Plus being able to play the likes of UT, A&M, OU, and TT would have been nice. Also, easier access to Texas recruits wouldn't have been that bad of a deal either :D.
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Haha I love the "thank you, buh-bye" ending.
 
Second Honeymoon said:
I can't believe the A&M faithful is mad that they didn't go to the SEC. You are already irrelevant in the Big12, how stupid do you have to be to think you could become relevant in the SEC? yeah, you wouldn't get your ass worked every year by Texas, OU, Tech, and soon Baylor but instead you would get your ass worked every year by every member of the SEC this side of Vandy.

Delusion is delusion, but this delusional spell is off the charts. Be happy that Texas saved you from going to the Pac10, which admittedly wasn't a good fit for 50's era uber-conservative A&M, and be happy that they got you enough money to cover your debts.

I don't hate A&M and I think its a great school but to act like your football team would have done anything in the SEC is just myopia to the Nth degree. Ask Arkansas how well going to the SEC is working for them, and their program is light years ahead of yours.

The best bet for A&M to have success is the following:
1. Stop whining about being in the Big12.
2. Keep recruiting well.
3. Get a new coach. (would love for you to get Kubiak, his act might work in college)
4. Concentrate on beating Tech and Baylor first, then worry about OU and UT.
5. Stop acting like you are a football power. You used to be arguably #1 in the state of Texas but that day has long since passed. Be happy with what Texas and OU got you and be happy that you weren't treated like red headed stepchildren like Tech, Baylor, and the rest of the Big12 were.

You got the facilities, you got the money, you got the fertile recruiting grounds of Texas, you just have to reassess yourselves honestly and maybe modernize the programs and maybe put a spin on the some of the traditions. I think some of the traditions may put off some of the inner city youth/modern student athletes too.

I just am sick of the Aggies complaining like Texas somehow screwed them over. Nothing could be further from the truth. Part of me wishes A&M would have gone to the SEC because it would have been hilarious to see some of these people living in the past have to eat some serious crow after getting worked over on a weekly basis by every team in the SEC. Oh and you would have lost one of the traditions (and one of the few TV slots you have managed to hold onto) and that is the UT v Texas A&M game. You lose that and your lucky to be on TV once a year...and that means. NO RECRUITS!

wake up and smell reality, A&M and fix your program before you blame everyone else for your failures.
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You posted what I was going to only better. Now A&M will get beat as they would in SEC but make a whole lotta cash to have an average football program.
 
MojoMan said:
I wonder if Nebraska is having any second thoughts after seeing the revised TV deal that the teams in the Big 12 leveraged out of this arrangement.
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the deal wouldn't have happened without the near collapse of the conference. long term this will benefit nebraska. they seem like a north school.
 
This is long but just got this email...sorry if it offends but it was too funny not to post.

If the Big 12 teams were women

Texas is the hottest, richest chick around. She can have anybody she wants. If you land Texas , all of your dreams cometrue. What you don’t realize is that at the end of the day, you are going to be sitting outside of the dressing room at Nordstrom’s with your thumb up your *** holding her purse while she tries on a bunch of really expensive sh!t. If you can live with her wearing the pants in the family, then fine. But you’d better learn to like working for her daddy and having her tell you what to wear when you go to the club for dinner on Sunday nights.

OU is a hot chick with big fake boobs who spends lots of time in the gym, but she’s a huge whore. The bad news is that OU will cheat on you. The good news is that OU doesn’t care if you cheat on her. It’s all fun and games until someone doesn’t practice safe sex or your neighbors are snickering at you behind your back because your girl got double teamed by a couple of conventioneers at the Anatole the week of the Cotton Bowl.

A&M is somewhat good looking and intelligent, but completely bat **** crazy. You can’t tell if A&M is bipolar or just having really bad PMS. But either way, she is going to say and do a whole bunch of **** that is just going to leave you scratching your head or ducking for cover. A&M also has two really huge problems: 1) A&M thinks she is much hotter and much smarter than she really is; and 2) She’s got all sorts of issues with Texas . Both of those feed into her mania. You don’t know what you are getting with this nut job, but it wouldn’t surprise you if she cut off all of her hair and joined the SEC, and then 10 minutes later realized how bad she ****** up and came back to you in hysterics.

Colorado is the hippy chick who spends all day on Pearl Street dropping empty gas tank lines on the tourists until her father comes to pick her up in his Benz on the way home from his law practice. Colorado is desirable as long as you can duck batteries, put up with poor hygiene and don’t mind the smell of patchouli.

Tech is cute but has poor self esteem. If you pay any attention to her whatsoever, she will love you forever. She’s the type who gives you a smoker on the way to dinner and would be just as content to be your #$%^ buddy. The worse you treat Tech, the more she loves you.

Oklahoma State is a less attractive and sluttier version of OU. She might look pretty good if you’ve had a few drinks, and she’ll let you do anything you want to her in bed. You also might think that she’s rich, but then you find out that all of her credit cards are maxed out and she can’t afford the car she’s driving.

Baylor is overweight, homely and manipulative, and is always sticking her nose into your business where it doesn’t belong. Baylor will try every trick in the world to land the right guy. Baylor will lie, cheat, steal, backstab, blackmail, etc… and then justify it all by going to church on Sunday and asking Jesus for forgiveness. The worst part about Baylor is that she won’t give it up, but will try to ****block you every chance that she gets.

Nebraska is a cougar who has lost her fastball and is jealous of the other hotter chicks (i.e., Texas ). She just spent $2500 on botox and lip injections, and she now looks like the joker when she smiles. It’s sad to see such a former hottie act so desperately and what’s worse, she can’t decide whether she should try to hook up with an aging sugar daddy or go have a series of one-nighters with the drunk twenty-somethings she picks up at Midnight Rodeo.

Kansas is your classic butterface. Great body, but she looks like she fell off the ugly tree and hit every branch on the way down. At the end of the day, the bad grill outweighs the nice tight ass, because you never want to take her out in public. The last thing you want is to wake up the next morning and have Kansas staring you in the face.

Missouri is cute, but not hot. She’s a nice girl and has a great personality, but needs to drop about 15 lbs. You can see how she could be more attractive, but she’s not ever going to be very sexy, no matter what she does. Missouri is the girl you feel guilty cheating on, but you do it anyway.

Kansas State is overweight and stupid. A few years ago when she lost a ton of weight and looked pretty good, you hooked up with her. Now, you look back and can’t even imagine that it is the same human being. You ignore her Facebook friend request and pretend you don’t recognize or remember her when you run into her in public.

Iowa State is the drunken fat chick at the end of the bar that is just happy to be out of the house. The other girls are nice to Iowa State , mostly because they all look better standing next to her. Iowa State is the type who gets stuck with the huge bar tab at the end of the night and goes home alone unless some really wasted chubby chaser ends up tagging her.
 
HoustonFrog said:
This is long but just got this email...sorry if it offends but it was too funny not to post.

If the Big 12 teams were women

Texas is the hottest, richest chick around. She can have anybody she wants. If you land Texas , all of your dreams cometrue. What you don’t realize is that at the end of the day, you are going to be sitting outside of the dressing room at Nordstrom’s with your thumb up your *** holding her purse while she tries on a bunch of really expensive sh!t. If you can live with her wearing the pants in the family, then fine. But you’d better learn to like working for her daddy and having her tell you what to wear when you go to the club for dinner on Sunday nights.

OU is a hot chick with big fake boobs who spends lots of time in the gym, but she’s a huge whore. The bad news is that OU will cheat on you. The good news is that OU doesn’t care if you cheat on her. It’s all fun and games until someone doesn’t practice safe sex or your neighbors are snickering at you behind your back because your girl got double teamed by a couple of conventioneers at the Anatole the week of the Cotton Bowl.

A&M is somewhat good looking and intelligent, but completely bat **** crazy. You can’t tell if A&M is bipolar or just having really bad PMS. But either way, she is going to say and do a whole bunch of **** that is just going to leave you scratching your head or ducking for cover. A&M also has two really huge problems: 1) A&M thinks she is much hotter and much smarter than she really is; and 2) She’s got all sorts of issues with Texas . Both of those feed into her mania. You don’t know what you are getting with this nut job, but it wouldn’t surprise you if she cut off all of her hair and joined the SEC, and then 10 minutes later realized how bad she ****** up and came back to you in hysterics.

Colorado is the hippy chick who spends all day on Pearl Street dropping empty gas tank lines on the tourists until her father comes to pick her up in his Benz on the way home from his law practice. Colorado is desirable as long as you can duck batteries, put up with poor hygiene and don’t mind the smell of patchouli.

Tech is cute but has poor self esteem. If you pay any attention to her whatsoever, she will love you forever. She’s the type who gives you a smoker on the way to dinner and would be just as content to be your #$%^ buddy. The worse you treat Tech, the more she loves you.

Oklahoma State is a less attractive and sluttier version of OU. She might look pretty good if you’ve had a few drinks, and she’ll let you do anything you want to her in bed. You also might think that she’s rich, but then you find out that all of her credit cards are maxed out and she can’t afford the car she’s driving.

Baylor is overweight, homely and manipulative, and is always sticking her nose into your business where it doesn’t belong. Baylor will try every trick in the world to land the right guy. Baylor will lie, cheat, steal, backstab, blackmail, etc… and then justify it all by going to church on Sunday and asking Jesus for forgiveness. The worst part about Baylor is that she won’t give it up, but will try to ****block you every chance that she gets.

Nebraska is a cougar who has lost her fastball and is jealous of the other hotter chicks (i.e., Texas ). She just spent $2500 on botox and lip injections, and she now looks like the joker when she smiles. It’s sad to see such a former hottie act so desperately and what’s worse, she can’t decide whether she should try to hook up with an aging sugar daddy or go have a series of one-nighters with the drunk twenty-somethings she picks up at Midnight Rodeo.

Kansas is your classic butterface. Great body, but she looks like she fell off the ugly tree and hit every branch on the way down. At the end of the day, the bad grill outweighs the nice tight ass, because you never want to take her out in public. The last thing you want is to wake up the next morning and have Kansas staring you in the face.

Missouri is cute, but not hot. She’s a nice girl and has a great personality, but needs to drop about 15 lbs. You can see how she could be more attractive, but she’s not ever going to be very sexy, no matter what she does. Missouri is the girl you feel guilty cheating on, but you do it anyway.

Kansas State is overweight and stupid. A few years ago when she lost a ton of weight and looked pretty good, you hooked up with her. Now, you look back and can’t even imagine that it is the same human being. You ignore her Facebook friend request and pretend you don’t recognize or remember her when you run into her in public.

Iowa State is the drunken fat chick at the end of the bar that is just happy to be out of the house. The other girls are nice to Iowa State , mostly because they all look better standing next to her. Iowa State is the type who gets stuck with the huge bar tab at the end of the night and goes home alone unless some really wasted chubby chaser ends up tagging her.
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I'd add: University of Houston is the girl next door that every guy turns to. You like everything about her but keep looking over her shoulder at every approaching woman. Every year or so you think you have a real winner and consider marriage and then she does something stupid that makes you look for that other chick that likes basketball.
 
Goldensilence said:
Did you visit the facebook page?

I wasn't referring to his post.
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Oh, well it seemed like it was directed at him.


Far as being happy about the Big 12 staying...eh... I wouldn't say happy more as I just don't see the allure of 4 mega conferences running college football. I mean it's already lopsided at 6.

Admittedly, maybe I'm just missing the dots, but I keep hearing/seeing some people talking about how it would create a playoff system.
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I think the idea is that you would have 4 very competitive conferences, which would have 4 championships to decide who is best from each. There wouldn't be much of a way to determine which two are best, so the best way to determine the national champion would be to make a 4 team playoff by default. But really, if they wanted to do that, I would be all for having the top 4 teams play it out for the National Championship as it is now, but I think they (NCAA) don't want the oddball TCU, Boise or Utah to steal the show and get two BCS bowls in the same season.
 
HoustonFrog said:
This is long but just got this email...sorry if it offends but it was too funny not to post.

If the Big 12 teams were women

Texas is the hottest, richest chick around. She can have anybody she wants. If you land Texas , all of your dreams cometrue. What you don’t realize is that at the end of the day, you are going to be sitting outside of the dressing room at Nordstrom’s with your thumb up your *** holding her purse while she tries on a bunch of really expensive sh!t. If you can live with her wearing the pants in the family, then fine. But you’d better learn to like working for her daddy and having her tell you what to wear when you go to the club for dinner on Sunday nights.

OU is a hot chick with big fake boobs who spends lots of time in the gym, but she’s a huge whore. The bad news is that OU will cheat on you. The good news is that OU doesn’t care if you cheat on her. It’s all fun and games until someone doesn’t practice safe sex or your neighbors are snickering at you behind your back because your girl got double teamed by a couple of conventioneers at the Anatole the week of the Cotton Bowl.

A&M is somewhat good looking and intelligent, but completely bat **** crazy. You can’t tell if A&M is bipolar or just having really bad PMS. But either way, she is going to say and do a whole bunch of **** that is just going to leave you scratching your head or ducking for cover. A&M also has two really huge problems: 1) A&M thinks she is much hotter and much smarter than she really is; and 2) She’s got all sorts of issues with Texas . Both of those feed into her mania. You don’t know what you are getting with this nut job, but it wouldn’t surprise you if she cut off all of her hair and joined the SEC, and then 10 minutes later realized how bad she ****** up and came back to you in hysterics.

Colorado is the hippy chick who spends all day on Pearl Street dropping empty gas tank lines on the tourists until her father comes to pick her up in his Benz on the way home from his law practice. Colorado is desirable as long as you can duck batteries, put up with poor hygiene and don’t mind the smell of patchouli.

Tech is cute but has poor self esteem. If you pay any attention to her whatsoever, she will love you forever. She’s the type who gives you a smoker on the way to dinner and would be just as content to be your #$%^ buddy. The worse you treat Tech, the more she loves you.

Oklahoma State is a less attractive and sluttier version of OU. She might look pretty good if you’ve had a few drinks, and she’ll let you do anything you want to her in bed. You also might think that she’s rich, but then you find out that all of her credit cards are maxed out and she can’t afford the car she’s driving.

Baylor is overweight, homely and manipulative, and is always sticking her nose into your business where it doesn’t belong. Baylor will try every trick in the world to land the right guy. Baylor will lie, cheat, steal, backstab, blackmail, etc… and then justify it all by going to church on Sunday and asking Jesus for forgiveness. The worst part about Baylor is that she won’t give it up, but will try to ****block you every chance that she gets.

Nebraska is a cougar who has lost her fastball and is jealous of the other hotter chicks (i.e., Texas ). She just spent $2500 on botox and lip injections, and she now looks like the joker when she smiles. It’s sad to see such a former hottie act so desperately and what’s worse, she can’t decide whether she should try to hook up with an aging sugar daddy or go have a series of one-nighters with the drunk twenty-somethings she picks up at Midnight Rodeo.

Kansas is your classic butterface. Great body, but she looks like she fell off the ugly tree and hit every branch on the way down. At the end of the day, the bad grill outweighs the nice tight ass, because you never want to take her out in public. The last thing you want is to wake up the next morning and have Kansas staring you in the face.

Missouri is cute, but not hot. She’s a nice girl and has a great personality, but needs to drop about 15 lbs. You can see how she could be more attractive, but she’s not ever going to be very sexy, no matter what she does. Missouri is the girl you feel guilty cheating on, but you do it anyway.

Kansas State is overweight and stupid. A few years ago when she lost a ton of weight and looked pretty good, you hooked up with her. Now, you look back and can’t even imagine that it is the same human being. You ignore her Facebook friend request and pretend you don’t recognize or remember her when you run into her in public.

Iowa State is the drunken fat chick at the end of the bar that is just happy to be out of the house. The other girls are nice to Iowa State , mostly because they all look better standing next to her. Iowa State is the type who gets stuck with the huge bar tab at the end of the night and goes home alone unless some really wasted chubby chaser ends up tagging her.
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I would hate to see what type of chicks my schools: Lamar and UT-Arlington are if these are better options.
 
Dutchrudder said:
Oh, well it seemed like it was directed at him.





I think the idea is that you would have 4 very competitive conferences, which would have 4 championships to decide who is best from each. There wouldn't be much of a way to determine which two are best, so the best way to determine the national champion would be to make a 4 team playoff by default. But really, if they wanted to do that, I would be all for having the top 4 teams play it out for the National Championship as it is now, but I think they (NCAA) don't want the oddball TCU, Boise or Utah to steal the show and get two BCS bowls in the same season.
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I still think the idea sounds better than it would actually be. I don't get how people are figuring the NCAA(and some schools for that matter) would actually default to a four team playoff, unless you do a plus one game. Which MAYBE they would be, but that's still not a guarantee.

Even then I just see it complicating things more. Just seems like it's more ripe for situations like TT, UT and OU 2 years ago when they had a round robin of defeats. Or which one loss team is really more deserving than the other for a shot at a BCS game.
 
Saw this link on the A&M President's page. He answers a few things about the decisions and gives some more details. It's worth a 2 minute read :)


Question: There have been several reports that there is not a new signed Big 12 TV contract. How certain are you that it will actually happen and Texas A&M will receive more revenues than the other conferences offered?

“I spoke with the Big 12 Commissioner late Sunday evening and also conferenced him in to our Monday afternoon meeting. It is true that a signed TV contract is not yet in place.

However, the basic terms of a new Big 12 agreement (beginning in 2011) are in place and are in sufficient detail to give us confidence that we know the “floor” of our next agreement. It was on this basis that we, and other Big 12 institutions, were able to make a decision late Monday afternoon. As in negotiations of this nature, we will receive more details as the talks continue.”


Question: Texas is taking a lot of credit for saving the Big 12 Conference. Did we stand on the sidelines?

“I don’t think any one university can take credit for saving the Big 12 Conference. It was a collective commitment by the remaining 10 members of the conference. What many people don’t realize, however, is that Texas President Bill Powers is also chair of the Big 12 Board of Directors, which includes all of the university presidents and the Big 12’s executive team.

It’s a position that rotates around to all of the Big 12 presidents. But don’t think for a minute that Texas A&M was idle during this situation. We acted independently and were very aggressive in exploring options and protecting our long-term interests.

A lot of the media reports are starting to report about the strength of our position during the entire situation. Texas A&M played a key role in ultimately increasing the financial viability of the Big 12. I think the facts support this claim – Texas A&M is poised to benefit just as much financially from the Big 12 as Texas or Oklahoma.”
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Link for more
 
Lawmakers supporting Houston bid to join Big 12

HOUSTON — About two dozen Texas lawmakers are supporting efforts to get the University of Houston admitted to the Big 12 Conference.

State Reps. Garnet Coleman and Bill Callegari, both from the Houston area, co-wrote a letter Thursday asking Big 12 officials to consider adding the university to the conference.

"UH is the third largest university in Texas, and is on track to rank among the top research universities in this state," the letter says. "Despite UH's local and statewide prominence, the university does not belong to a strong BCS conference such as the Big 12. The Cougars, the city of Houston, and the state of Texas deserve better."

Houston is a member of Conference USA and was a member of the Southwest Conference until 1995.

Conference USA officials did not immediately respond Thursday to messages left by The Associated Press. Big 12 officials said commissioner Dan Beebe was not available to comment.

The Big 12 is set to lose two schools after Nebraska committed to the Big Ten and Colorado to the Pac-10. Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe has said the league has no plans to add any teams from within its five-state area, which includes Texas.

Coleman said he is not deterred by Beebe's stance.

"I don't quit," Coleman told the Houston Chronicle. "I don't start something I'm not going to finish. If I didn't think this was a worthy endeavor, I wouldn't have started it. This is the beginning of this effort, not the end."
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:spin:
 
awtysst said:
And UH brings NOTHING to the table. They are not a money maker, they are not a consistently good team, and they do not have a national following. A combination of TCU and Arkansas makes the Big XII stronger than it was with CU and Nebraska.
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Yeah UH certainly can't beat other BigXII teams oh wai-
 
Kulluminatii said:
From what I've read, Arkansas is not at all interested in leaving the SEC.
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http://sports.espn.go.com/dallas/ncf/news/story?id=5298661

Yep, but I think for the right deal they would leave for the Big 12 in a couple of years.

b0ng said:
Yeah UH certainly can't beat other BigXII teams oh wai-
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They've faired not too bad against the Big 12, but mostly have played Ok State.

I think in a couple of years UH can bring a lot to the table once the new stadium and arena come into play.

I just don't think at this point after a near death experience and the few things that kept the Big 12 together keys on them staying a 10 team league in the short run.
 
Will be interesting to see what happens now. Right now Pac 10, Big 10, SEC, and ACC have 12 teams. Big XII has 10. Big East has 8.

I do not forsee any other major changes in the BCS conferences this year. I think the Big XII will stand pat at 10 teams for the next 2-3 years as UT gets its exclusive (Fox?) TV deal ironed out. Over the next 2-3 I think we will see how successful they can be with it. If it is a big moneymaker, they may entertain bringing in an up and comer like TCU into the Big XII which does not bring in much revenue, but brings in solid football.

I think the Big XII want to stay around 11 schools so they do not need to play the extra championship game.
 
Who dosen't think Missouri is gone in a heart beat if they get an invite from
the Big 10 ? This conference is shakier than ever.
 
ATXtexanfan said:
when did they beat UT and OU? TT and OSU wins mean nothing. UH should schedule UT at reliant.
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Both TT and OSU were highly rated whe UH beat them. And they would love to schedule UT at Reliant.

You think they are scared?
 
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