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AP Doing A Re-Vote

b0ng said:
You're right. My bad.

BTW, the lady that called for the re-vote is on WFAN right now talking about it. She's already said that other Senior AP Editors made her do it.
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Tell that lady to leave Brian alone! huuuuuuhhhhh! That *****!
 
GP said:
I see him winning the re-vote, but by a more narrow margin than before.

They're going to admit that it was unfortunate he failed a test for a banned substance, but that he didn't actually test positive for an actual s-t-e-r-o-i-d. And in the end, he dominated too much for it to all be the product of a PED. In short: Cushing's football skills and on-field i.q. > dumb decisions off-field.
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Doesn't matter that he was popped for a "s-t-e-r-o-i-d" there are plenty of substances that are banned, no matter what the substance was he still broke the rules. End of Story.

If this was a tennessee titan that had won we'd be standing up asking him to get expelled.
 
silvrhand said:
Doesn't matter that he was popped for a "s-t-e-r-o-i-d" there are plenty of substances that are banned, no matter what the substance was he still broke the rules. End of Story.

If this was a tennessee titan that had won we'd be standing up asking him to get expelled.
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Oh, please do not get me wrong. If you read my posts on this whole matter...you will see that I am disappointed and not really all that trusting of anything that Cushing or his agents or media relations people will be feeding us.

I was just saying that I think the media will not skewer him as badly as people think at the moment. Lost of people think the fix is in, and the award is already gone due to this re-vote. I don't.

I think there is so much wild speculation right now, and foggy weather associated with Cushing right now, that the media will find it difficult to punish him for this RIGHT NOW.

I think the media has more information than we do, and I think they're in the process of (hopefully) making an informed decision and not a decision based on a "payback mentality" or something like that.

At the end of the day, I don't see them ganging up and making this a witch hunt and public torture event.
 
silvrhand said:
Doesn't matter that he was popped for a "s-t-e-r-o-i-d" there are plenty of substances that are banned, no matter what the substance was he still broke the rules. End of Story.

If this was a tennessee titan that had won we'd be standing up asking him to get expelled.
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He hasn't made excuses for Cushing. He was just saying that he thinks that he'll still win the ROTY award. The test was taken at the very beginning of the season and Cush passed all of the other tests to our knowledge, so I think it can be assumed that he was clean for most of the season any way. Other players in the past weren't stripped of their awards either like Peppers or Merriman.
 
Grid said:
So do "fans" that only support the team in fair weather.

BTW, ya know what else gets old? People who cherry pick small bits out of a post so they can flame/deride/complain..and ignore the intent of the post.

People keep complaining about what im saying.. but none of you seem very interested in replying to the points im trying to make about Cushing.
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What was the intent of the post? To say that if you aren't blindly in Cushings corner than you're not a fan of the Texans??

To call anyone on this messageboard a fair weather fan because of the Cushing situation is absolutely absurd.

I have been a member of this community for what, 5 years now? I was a fan before, during, and after the 2-14 season.

I like what eriadoc said. When was the fair weather? This team has been disappointing for its entire history. We've never made the playoffs. And yet our fanbase is still strong enough that a thread on cushing makes it to 20-30 pages in just days. Doesn't sound like fairweather fans to me.

We are passionate, and we may not always agree, but to question our "fan ness" is just stupid and immature.

Whats the point anyway? Should we have a minimum fan level or loyalty level to post here? Only people who support every player regardless of actions?

The Texans aren't my family. They aren't my friends. Those are the only two groups that get unconditional loyalty from me.

The Texans are a group of professional athletes united by a city, a logo, a jersey, and a team name. I will continue to follow them like a crazy person, cheer for them, commiserate with others when they fail, and I reserve the right to express my disappointment when one of the players jeopardizes the success of the rest of the team.

I dont care what Cushing took. If he took sudafed or anabolic steroids, the fact of the matter is that he jeopardized the team. He hasn't come out and said what he took, despite being given the opportunitity, so Im going to go ahead and be pissed at him.

He's going to miss 4 games, a 4th of the season, for something he voluntarily did. He'll get my support back when he proves to me this was a one time thing OR when we go 4-0 during those first 4 games.
 
gtexan02 said:
What was the intent of the post? To say that if you aren't blindly in Cushings corner than you're not a fan of the Texans??

To call anyone on this messageboard a fair weather fan because of the Cushing situation is absolutely absurd.

I have been a member of this community for what, 5 years now? I was a fan before, during, and after the 2-14 season.

I like what eriadoc said. When was the fair weather? This team has been disappointing for its entire history. We've never made the playoffs. And yet our fanbase is still strong enough that a thread on cushing makes it to 20-30 pages in just days. Doesn't sound like fairweather fans to me.

We are passionate, and we may not always agree, but to question our "fan ness" is just stupid and immature.

Whats the point anyway? Should we have a minimum fan level or loyalty level to post here? Only people who support every player regardless of actions?

The Texans aren't my family. They aren't my friends. Those are the only two groups that get unconditional loyalty from me.

The Texans are a group of professional athletes united by a city, a logo, a jersey, and a team name. I will continue to follow them like a crazy person, cheer for them, commiserate with others when they fail, and I reserve the right to express my disappointment when one of the players jeopardizes the success of the rest of the team.

I dont care what Cushing took. If he took sudafed or anabolic steroids, the fact of the matter is that he jeopardized the team. He hasn't come out and said what he took, despite being given the opportunitity, so Im going to go ahead and be pissed at him.

He's going to miss 4 games, a 4th of the season, for something he voluntarily did. He'll get my support back when he proves to me this was a one time thing OR when we go 4-0 during those first 4 games.
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Just repped you big time here Gtexan. One of your best posts ever. :)
 
gtexan02 said:
What was the intent of the post? To say that if you aren't blindly in Cushings corner than you're not a fan of the Texans??

To call anyone on this messageboard a fair weather fan because of the Cushing situation is absolutely absurd.

I have been a member of this community for what, 5 years now? I was a fan before, during, and after the 2-14 season.

I like what eriadoc said. When was the fair weather? This team has been disappointing for its entire history. We've never made the playoffs. And yet our fanbase is still strong enough that a thread on cushing makes it to 20-30 pages in just days. Doesn't sound like fairweather fans to me.

We are passionate, and we may not always agree, but to question our "fan ness" is just stupid and immature.

Whats the point anyway? Should we have a minimum fan level or loyalty level to post here? Only people who support every player regardless of actions?

The Texans aren't my family. They aren't my friends. Those are the only two groups that get unconditional loyalty from me.

The Texans are a group of professional athletes united by a city, a logo, a jersey, and a team name. I will continue to follow them like a crazy person, cheer for them, commiserate with others when they fail, and I reserve the right to express my disappointment when one of the players jeopardizes the success of the rest of the team.

I dont care what Cushing took. If he took sudafed or anabolic steroids, the fact of the matter is that he jeopardized the team. He hasn't come out and said what he took, despite being given the opportunitity, so Im going to go ahead and be pissed at him.

He's going to miss 4 games, a 4th of the season, for something he voluntarily did. He'll get my support back when he proves to me this was a one time thing OR when we go 4-0 during those first 4 games.
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EPIC POST!

Can't rep you, though, due to the whole spreadin'-around-of-the-rep and stuff.
 
Grid said:
These AP fools are being idiots. Its their award to give or take away, but all they are doing by having this re-vote is helping to propagate the RUMOR that he cheated, and further hurt his career, his good name, and the reputation of our team.
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The AP folks aren't doing anything to Cushing's good name. They're simply trying to protect the integrity of the award. How you can't understand that is beyond my rationale thinking. I think they should leave it as is, but I can understand why they're doing this. They have to set some sport of precedent at some point with abusers of banned substances especially when they win awards that go down in the record books.

And it's not a rumor that anyone has created. He FAILED A TEST. It's a fact. They aren't hurting his career. Only Cushing can help or hurt his career from this point on from the decisions he makes. And the reputation of "our team" hasn't changed because of one guy who broke the rules. If it does change, well then that's on Cush and nobody else.






Grid said:
But you fans need to make up your mind. Either you are a Texans fan or you arent. I cant see any good excuse for a Texans fan to be throwing Cushing under the bus at this juncture.
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You seem to have a hard time understanding what supporting a team is all about. It's not about blindly supporting every player no matter what he says or does just because of the logo he wears. I haven't seen one person in this entire forum throw Cushing under the bus once since this has happened. I have seen a few fans throw other fans under the bus though all over what Cushing did and that's pretty pathetic. If you want to get mad at someone and call them out, then get angry at the person that's got the Texans all over the news and is going to miss the first 4 games of the season, not the fans on this board who have supported this team emotionally and financially over the last 8 years. That's about as backwards as anything I've ever seen.


Grid said:
All you are doing is helping the rest of the football world to degrade our team, and Brian Cushing.. who is a young kid who made a (possibly) minor mistake, that had big repercussions.
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There is no "possible" about it. WHen are you going to understand he failed a test which means that he broke the freaking rules. Again, blame the guy who made the poor choices, not the folks that aren't patting him on the back and rubbing his belly because he's getting reprimanded for breaking the rules. That's what happens in any organized sports league or society for that matter. There are consequences when you break the rules. I thought we all learned that in grade school. Apparently not.
 
gtexan02 said:
What was the intent of the post? To say that if you aren't blindly in Cushings corner than you're not a fan of the Texans??

To call anyone on this messageboard a fair weather fan because of the Cushing situation is absolutely absurd.

I have been a member of this community for what, 5 years now? I was a fan before, during, and after the 2-14 season.

I like what eriadoc said. When was the fair weather? This team has been disappointing for its entire history. We've never made the playoffs. And yet our fanbase is still strong enough that a thread on cushing makes it to 20-30 pages in just days. Doesn't sound like fairweather fans to me.

We are passionate, and we may not always agree, but to question our "fan ness" is just stupid and immature.

Whats the point anyway? Should we have a minimum fan level or loyalty level to post here? Only people who support every player regardless of actions?

The Texans aren't my family. They aren't my friends. Those are the only two groups that get unconditional loyalty from me.

The Texans are a group of professional athletes united by a city, a logo, a jersey, and a team name. I will continue to follow them like a crazy person, cheer for them, commiserate with others when they fail, and I reserve the right to express my disappointment when one of the players jeopardizes the success of the rest of the team.

I dont care what Cushing took. If he took sudafed or anabolic steroids, the fact of the matter is that he jeopardized the team. He hasn't come out and said what he took, despite being given the opportunitity, so Im going to go ahead and be pissed at him.

He's going to miss 4 games, a 4th of the season, for something he voluntarily did. He'll get my support back when he proves to me this was a one time thing OR when we go 4-0 during those first 4 games.
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Must also spread the rep
 
GP said:
...At the end of the day, I don't see them ganging up and making this a witch hunt and public torture event.
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(I don't mean to take this out of context from what was otherwise a fantastic post)

But isn't that exactly what the media is best at these days?
 
My point of view is here:

Why the rushed DROY Brian Cushing revote shows grandstanding more important than facts

I don't tweet much usually, but I've been tweeting up a story trying to find justification of why the revote was rushed. In asking a lot of questions, nobody has given me a good answer. @StephStradley

I have reason to believe that not all AP members wanted the revote to happen immediately.

I'm not inclined to believe Cushing's story given what I know right now, but I would like to have more information. And I think it is very wrong to rush a award vote through so that voters who have voted for PED rule breakers in the past can feel better about themselves. Journalists are supposed to care about facts, and a rushed revote gives the appearance that they don't care. What's the rush?
 
Texans_Chick said:
Journalists are supposed to care about facts, and a rushed revote gives the appearance that they don't care. What's the rush?
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This has all the set-up for a moral outrage reversal and I find that incredibly hypocritical. They are justifying it with "we didn't know." Well so friggin' what? - when you did know you still voted them ROY.
 
Texans_Chick said:
My point of view is here:

Why the rushed DROY Brian Cushing revote shows grandstanding more important than facts

I don't tweet much usually, but I've been tweeting up a story trying to find justification of why the revote was rushed. In asking a lot of questions, nobody has given me a good answer. @StephStradley

I have reason to believe that not all AP members wanted the revote to happen immediately.

I'm not inclined to believe Cushing's story given what I know right now, but I would like to have more information. And I think it is very wrong to rush a award vote through so that voters who have voted for PED rule breakers in the past can feel better about themselves. Journalists are supposed to care about facts, and a rushed revote gives the appearance that they don't care. What's the rush?
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The alledged facts and subsequent events seem to be damning. Having read your piece, I also have to agree, there is no doubt that there has to be some underlying reason(s) for the push for such an accelerated re-vote.
 
infantrycak said:
This has all the set-up for a moral outrage reversal and I find that incredibly hypocritical. They are justifying it with "we didn't know." Well so friggin' what? - when you did know you still voted them ROY.
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Exactly.

And well, they still don't know. Barely any facts had come out at all about the PED violation before AP decided they needed a revote. Peter King saying he's voting for Matthews is hilarious. King acknowledges his past votes for PED users, but says he's changed. Then mentions the very very slim information from Schefter in his commentary.

It's a joke.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
The alledged facts and subsequent events seem to be damning. Having read your piece, I also have to agree, there is no doubt that there has to be some underlying reason(s) for the push for such an accelerated re-vote.
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The reason is that some prominent members of the voting group pushed for it right away. There were other AP members who wanted a delay or a recinded vote.

There is ZERO reason for a rushed vote. Other than making the people calling for it feel better about voting THREE guys who violated the PED policy DROY.
 
Steph/Cak

We've got to ask ourselves.........How many real journalists are left out there anymore? It doesn't seem to be only a Houston phenomenon.
 
Texans_Chick said:
It's a joke.
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Yes it is. Different governing bodies and all but Reggie Bush has been in the league 4 years and just paid off the guy that paid him but they still haven't made any determination on his college eligibility and yet for some reason this needs to be rammed through.

I do disagree with your blog's conclusion it is crystal clear he was using steroids. I don't think anything is clear at this point and that's partly why they shouldn't rush a re-vote. I can't figure a good explanation for if he was taking roids why he wouldn't hide anything associated with the regime and according to the rumors both the team and NFL knew. That just doesn't compute to me.
 
infantrycak said:
I do disagree with your blog's conclusion it is crystal clear he was using steroids. I don't think anything is clear at this point and that's partly why they shouldn't rush a re-vote. I can't figure a good explanation for if he was taking roids why he wouldn't hide anything associated with the regime and according to the rumors both the team and NFL knew. That just doesn't compute to me.
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Good write up TC, as usual. I agree with a lot you said, particularly about the rushed re-vote. If they want to have a re-vote, I don't have an overly huge issue with it... but at least let this thing play out and get an idea if it's actually necessary. NO need to rush it!

I think with the report of the hCG and its ties to being used after a cycle are good points and absolutely raise suspicion. But it doesn't prove it. Sure looks bad but like you said about the re-vote... let's wait until all the facts are out before saying Cushing 100% took steroids!
 
Texans_Chick said:
The reason is that some prominent members of the voting group pushed for it right away. There were other AP members who wanted a delay or a recinded vote.

There is ZERO reason for a rushed vote. Other than making the people calling for it feel better about voting THREE guys who violated the PED policy DROY.
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Peter King seems to be one of them
 
gtexan02 said:
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Ya know.. there are some really sensitive people on these forums.

How many times have I pointed out that I too am disappointed and angry at what Cushing allowed to happen and that I agree that that is an entirely understandable reaction to the situation?

How many times have I said that my ire is specifically targeted at people who jump to conclusions and throw Cushing under the bus...claiming he is a cheater and a hack?

Ya know.. if you are an angry fan that is just sitting here...being mad...waiting for more information so you can see just how bad a situation Cushing is in. HEY! me too! Im not standing here waving a steel blue flag with my eyes closed and my ears plugged, yelling "nothing is wrong!" at the top of my lungs.

But it is my honest opinion that people who, at the first sign of trouble, would throw one of our players under the bus, disown him, call him a cheater, and wish "ill" upon him... these people are not Texans fans. Or, probably more likely, they are real Texans fans..but I sure as hell wish they werent.

There simply isnt enough damning evidence to support the "opinions" of these people who think that he is a cheater, and that last season was the product of roids. So if there isnt enough evidence to support it.. what can we conclude about these people? My conclusion is that they are either unintelligent, and/or lacking in loyalty to the team, and I think my conclusions are right :D

Overall you make good points in your post.. but a few specific things:

I like what eriadoc said. When was the fair weather? This team has been disappointing for its entire history. We've never made the playoffs. And yet our fanbase is still strong enough that a thread on cushing makes it to 20-30 pages in just days. Doesn't sound like fairweather fans to me.
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Fair weather is a matter of perspective. When was the fair weather? The fair weather was a couple days ago when nothing was wrong with Brian Cushing and we were just looking forward to next season. Now, we have a dark cloud and some people cant handle it.

We are passionate, and we may not always agree, but to question our "fan ness" is just stupid and immature.
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Ya know..im sick of that word. "Passionate". Passion is used to explain all manner of idiotic behavior.

When you are behaving like a fool..and not a fan.. and you are jumping to wild conclusions and saying the the sky is falling.. that isnt "being passionate".. thats being a douche.

Im not saying that you are a douche :D.. but im sick of the word passionate being used as an excuse for poor behavior.

When the "fans" boo Cushing in game 5.. Its going to be because they are overly judgemental, immature, disloyal, unintelligent, and drunk...not because they are "passionate".

Whats the point anyway? Should we have a minimum fan level or loyalty level to post here? Only people who support every player regardless of actions?
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No loyalty requirements to post, but if you are being a shitty fan and/or a tool.. i feel that someone should point it out to you. Especially if you have a bunch of tool friends cheering you on.

The Texans aren't my family. They aren't my friends. Those are the only two groups that get unconditional loyalty from me.
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I dont think anyone expects unconditional loyalty. But is it too much to ask that people TRY to remain loyal? Do we have to disown the team/players every time there is a problem.. Or every time we dont draft who you wanted... or every time we make a decision on the field that you dont completely agree with.

I mean.. isnt being a Texans fan supposed to mean that you support the Texans MORE than the average person? Or does being a Texans fan just mean that you live in Houston so you see more of their games than other Americans?

Cause it seems to me that alot of people who say they are Texans fans...they dont really care about the team more than any other team in the NFL.. they just feel compelled to follow us because we are the team in Houston.

So..yeah.. good post, even though it was directed at me. I understand where you are coming from but feel like alot of people who I dont necessarily disagree with, think that I am attacking them when im not.
 
GuerillaBlack said:
I agree with your post, but didn't you give out negative rep to people who disagreed with you?
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Hmm.. I gave out negative rep to two people yesterday who made posts I disagreed with.

Also gave out positive rep to a few people who i did agree with.

*shrug* thats what its there for. Ive gotten plenty of negative rep from people who have disagreed with me as well.
 
So he gets tested in Sept and fails but from October till the season was over he passed the tests?? And they want a Re-Vote?? Pure Bullsh*t! So are they gonna go back to 2002 and strip Julius Pepper for testing positive at the end of the season???

I know for a fact Cushing will come out destroying every opposing enemy in sight when he comes back from the suspension!
 
Let's just say that there were plenty of journalist that didn't want him to get it to begin with but Cushing's play was just to profound. If they can admit that, I'll be happy.
 
TexansBlood said:
I know for a fact Cushing will come out destroying every opposing enemy in sight when he comes back from the suspension!
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This is a good point that is being glossed over. Whether Cushing wins or loses this stupid award that the AP gave to him, he should be (rightfully) pissed off about it and he should be taking that aggression and anger (because lets face it, I'm sure he's an angry guy) out on our opponents. So the AP, with their hypocrisy, and the need to have the story be about them, are actually helping Cushing out with some extra motivation to be even better next year.

I mean really, how many of you would be surprised if he came back and did not play with a gigantic chip on his shoulder, "lighting fools up on Sundays"? I would be pretty shocked, going by how he has portrayed himself on the field last year. I mean are there a contingent of people here who think that Cushing's attitude and demeanor, as well as his gameplay, was a product of steroids? I would not be surprised to see him look a little bit slower or having less pop on his hits, but I don't see him playing like a wimp next year. Especially if he starts the season on suspension with his previous season being yanked from under him.
 
Grid said:
Ive already responded to posts like yours over the last couple of days. Im not going to bother doing it again.

But I didnt want you to go through all the trouble of replying to me and not give you some kind of response.. so here ya go.

:bunpan:
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If it bothers you when people quote your posts and address false comments of yours, then be a little more careful as to what you say in the future. That's the only advice that I can give you.
 
b0ng said:
This is a good point that is being glossed over. Whether Cushing wins or loses this stupid award that the AP gave to him, he should be (rightfully) pissed off about it and he should be taking that aggression and anger (because lets face it, I'm sure he's an angry guy) out on our opponents. So the AP, with their hypocrisy, and the need to have the story be about them, are actually helping Cushing out with some extra motivation to be even better next year.

I mean really, how many of you would be surprised if he came back and did not play with a gigantic chip on his shoulder, "lighting fools up on Sundays"? I would be pretty shocked, going by how he has portrayed himself on the field last year. I mean are there a contingent of people here who think that Cushing's attitude and demeanor, as well as his gameplay, was a product of steroids? I would not be surprised to see him look a little bit slower or having less pop on his hits, but I don't see him playing like a wimp next year. Especially if he starts the season on suspension with his previous season being yanked from under him.
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Co-signed.
 
infantrycak said:
I do disagree with your blog's conclusion it is crystal clear he was using steroids. I don't think anything is clear at this point and that's partly why they shouldn't rush a re-vote. I can't figure a good explanation for if he was taking roids why he wouldn't hide anything associated with the regime and according to the rumors both the team and NFL knew. That just doesn't compute to me.
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I don't believe it is crystal clear but I think it is more likely than not he did. I made a point of saying am not a doctor nor do I play one on TV. But with what I know right now, I am inclined to believe that he violated the PED rules for reasons relating to PED use.

I think if he had a no brainer reason for his PED violation, he would have either 1. won his appeal; 2. we'd already know all the details.

There might be a possibility that there is some innocuous reason why he had one bad test, but I'm not thinking that will happen.
 
Texans_Chick said:
I don't believe it is crystal clear but I think it is more likely than not he did. I made a point of saying am not a doctor nor do I play one on TV. But with what I know right now, I am inclined to believe that he violated the PED rules for reasons relating to PED use.

I think if he had a no brainer reason for his PED violation, he would have either 1. won his appeal; 2. we'd already know all the details.

There might be a possibility that there is some innocuous reason why he had one bad test, but I'm not thinking that will happen.
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I think I can get on board with this line of reasoning.

Although its totally speculation.

If the positive was due to residual seminal fluid, I could see him not coming forward because it was embarassing for him. Although CnD had basically said this was not a real possibility.

If the positive was due to weight loss or weight management, I feel like he would have already come out with it publically or made a statement. I can't see any reason to keep quiet about it if that was the case.

Maybe he was taking it for a reason we don't understand, and it was embarassing for him. Thats the only way I could see this being a misunderstanding.
 
OK, I'm gonna step out on a limb and ask a question that has been buzzing around in my head all day. I hesitated to ask earlier cause you guys can be brutal to dumb questions, BUT, what the hell, here goes. Is there anyway Cush's intense HBO regime could have anything to do with this outcome? I've done a little googling, but, not much there. Oxygen is essential for cell metabolism, and tisse oxygenation is essential for all normal physiological functions. IF he pushed it to hard, along with his intense workouts and diet, seems this could have been a factor in screwing up his metabolism. Doesn't seem logical to me, but, you never know.
 
SheTexan said:
OK, I'm gonna step out on a limb and ask a question that has been buzzing around in my head all day. I hesitated to ask earlier cause you guys can be brutal to dumb questions, BUT, what the hell, here goes. Is there anyway Cush's intense HBO regime could have anything to do with this outcome? I've done a little googling, but, not much there. Oxygen is essential for cell metabolism, and tisse oxygenation is essential for all normal physiological functions. IF he pushed it to hard, along with his intense workouts and diet, seems this could have been a factor in screwing up his metabolism. Doesn't seem logical to me, but, you never know.
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Not a dumb question, Gma. We would all love to find a benign plausible explanation, but the answer does not lie in any combination of the factors you ran through.:(
 
SheTexan said:
OK, I'm gonna step out on a limb and ask a question that has been buzzing around in my head all day. I hesitated to ask earlier cause you guys can be brutal to dumb questions, BUT, what the hell, here goes. Is there anyway Cush's intense HBO regime could have anything to do with this outcome? I've done a little googling, but, not much there. Oxygen is essential for cell metabolism, and tisse oxygenation is essential for all normal physiological functions. IF he pushed it to hard, along with his intense workouts and diet, seems this could have been a factor in screwing up his metabolism. Doesn't seem logical to me, but, you never know.
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I don't think so. There are a lot of other guys in the league that train just as hard.

No, the explanation that makes the most sense to me was that he was doing an off-season cycle and he ended it a little too late and his numbers hadn't quite returned to normal before they tested him. He probably wasn't expecting to be tested until the season was in swing.

Now, I think this off-season cycling is probably a common practice in the NFL with the way the drug testing is set up (if my understanding of that is right.)

The second most likely explanation is he used one of these new "faddish" weight loss supplements that have hCG and didn't realize it had hCG until too late. And from what's being said, that could be on Ray Wright.

But I think the first explanation is much more likely.
 
Well besides John McClain coming out already saying he voted for Cushing, Pete Prisco has said that his vote won't change and he is 100% right on in his article!!

http://www.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/6315047/21691981?tag=pageRow;pageContainer

"My vote isn't changing.

The Associated Press, which conducts the voting for the NFL's yearly awards, has decided to have a re-vote for the Defensive Rookie of the Year Award, based on the news that winner Brian Cushing tested positive for a performance-enhancing drug last September.

As one of the 50 voters, I voted for Cushing last December and that vote stays. If Cushing did indeed fail the test, it means he was tested the rest of the season by the league, which means he was clean.

He played clean.

So he wins the award.

Maybe he played a game or two with the substance, but what was the substance? Nobody knows for sure. Why did his appeal play out so long?

Aren't we racing to accuse this kid? If you have to take away awards given to players in the NFL who have taken some sort of illegal substance, we'd have to take away a lot more than just this award.

Should Brett Favre lose some of his gaudy numbers and his consecutive-game streak for using Vicodin to play? Should Shawne Merriman give back his Defensive Rookie of the Year Award from 2005 because he he tested positive for a performance-enhancing drug the next season?

This is a rush to judgment. Let it play out. Let the league decide his fate. And even then, I'm not changing my vote.

This is a bad precedent for AP. A vote is a vote.

What's next? Taking away the New Orleans Saints' Super Bowl victory if it's proved that coach Sean Payton did indeed use Vicodin illegally, which is being alleged?

Brian Cushing got my vote last December and he still has it."
 
Ok, I just went threw the 50 voters that have a vote for the DROY. 16 of them have posted their votes on the internet and its going to be close IF Cushing wins again.

The problem I see is that you would figure that the votes would go to Byrd but they aren't. They are going to Matthews. Here is a list of the 16 people who I found that listed their votes.

Don Banks - Cush
Mark Craig - Cush
Tom Curran - Cush
Vinny Ditrani - Cush
John McClain - Cush
Pete Prisco - Cush

Rich Cimini - Matthews - was a Cush vote
Bob Glauber - Matthews - was a Cush vote
Dave Goldberg - Matthews - was a Cush Vote
Tony Grossi - Matthews
Peter king - Matthews - was a Cush Vote
Tom Silverstein - Matthews

Brian Allee-Walsh - Byrd
Mark Gaughan - Byrd - was a Cush Vote
Armando Salguero - Byrd

Adam Schein - Orakpo
 
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