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NFL Draft 2010: Day 3

I'm not as upset about this one as I was the last pick - we do have a lot of question marks at TE, and he was picked at a reasonable spot relative to the grades that most places give him. But, I can't say I'm happy about it, either.

I still really feel that we've missed out - big - on getting OL help in this draft. I think what bugs me about that most is not that we haven't drafted some particular player (I really don't have anyone I'm targeting), but just that the front office can't find anyone that they felt could improve, significantly, over what we already have on the OL. I do not see our OL as good - we need depth and starters there. They already showed in their first three picks that they are considering need, and yet they don't seem to see our OL (or safety?) as one of those needs.
 
Remember the name Troy Nolan. Her was our 7th rounder last year: A FS. Perhaps the Texans have bigger plans for him than we know. He could be a very good depth FS.
 
awtysst said:
Well you are sitting here criticizing these draft picks left and right, calling them stupid, and referring to the front office as morons. I figured you had come to your conclusions on these picks based on a hours of meticulous film study, reading numerous sites, making mock drafts, and thinking about these picks in great depth.

Or, perhaps did you read a couple of websites, look at a few mocks, and parrot some name you really do not know becuase you read it somewhere?
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Hey thats what I did!
 
awtysst said:
Well you are sitting here criticizing these draft picks left and right, calling them stupid, and referring to the front office as morons. I figured you had come to your conclusions on these picks based on a hours of meticulous film study, reading numerous sites, making mock drafts, and thinking about these picks in great depth.

Or, perhaps did you read a couple of websites, look at a few mocks, and parrot some name you really do not know becuase you read it somewhere?
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You don't draft players to be 4th or 5th string when you have other needs, you get players through free agency
 
TheRealJoker said:
Good to see the Texans draft room has a sense of humor given the "Draft TE" jokes people make on here...

Graham looks like a player, it seems the Texans FO go strictly BPA at this point. Lets just hope it doesn't hurt us like last year (drafting 2 TEs when we had a need for another RB).

This organization does not seem to value the safety position very highly. It seems they are confident in going through the srap heap to find their safeties. They picked up both starters on the street afterall....
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To the bolded part, that does look like what's happening. Apparently they just aren't seeing what they want in these late rounds for the O-line and FS.
 
Porky said:
I think this says FAR more about Anthony Hill that it does OD. I'm actually OK with this pick. I'm not falling out of my chair excited, but I can see the thinking behind it. First, OD insurance, and second Hill insurance. And it's not like Mr. everything Rice really stood out last year either. Sooooo, I'm not saying I would go this way, but it's perfectly defensible. Assuming he sticks and/or the health of the others prove out, I say let's skip a TE next year shall we?
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LOL! Sorry Porky, they will probably pick 2 TE next year!:voodoo:
 
keyser said:
I'm not as upset about this one as I was the last pick - we do have a lot of question marks at TE, and he was picked at a reasonable spot relative to the grades that most places give him. But, I can't say I'm happy about it, either.

I still really feel that we've missed out - big - on getting OL help in this draft. I think what bugs me about that most is not that we haven't drafted some particular player (I really don't have anyone I'm targeting), but just that the front office can't find anyone that they felt could improve, significantly, over what we already have on the OL. I do not see our OL as good - we need depth and starters there. They already showed in their first three picks that they are considering need, and yet they don't seem to see our OL (or safety?) as one of those needs.
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Here is my thinking. The Texans have Brown and Winston as the OT. We have Briesel who was a very solid OG and Caldwell, our 3rd last year, and the newly signed Smith. I would not be surprised if Caldwell and Briesel were the OGs and Smith the Center. Are there any current draft picks who could push these interior 3? Probably not. I would like to see Tennant the BC Center taken to be our C of the future, but he would not push Smith right now.
 
awtysst said:
Remember the name Troy Nolan. Her was our 7th rounder last year: A FS. Perhaps the Texans have bigger plans for him than we know. He could be a very good depth FS.
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Yeah, I had said before the draft that I don't think that the Texans see the FS as a position of need.

I think they're banging on what THEY see as their positions of needs, not what outsiders see as their positions of need.

With Nolan, Barber, and Wilson, they don't see FS as a glaring weakness.

With 3 injured TE's on the squad and probably only Casey being ready for TC, they saw TE as a position of need and they banged it.

I was initially discombobulated by this pick but it makes alot of sense if you think about it.
 
I'm not really upset about the pick, clearly they don't believe that any of the O-line guys on the board could come in and make a difference for this team. I prefer BPA anyway because who knows what players will be on this team 2-3 years down the road. If this TE works out and our guys come back from injury then we can trade one of them and get a higher draft pick back.
 
I have no problem with the pick but I can understand fans freaking out about the safety position as it goes unaddressed. After all, they ignored the position last off-season and it almost ruined our season. If Pollard doesn't fall into our laps, we win 6-7 games last year. We still have 4 picks, though, and I'm counting on some movement.
 
I wonder which TE Smithiak will pick in the 5th rd.

Hello 6-10, Hope your snoring problem is better Kubes.
 
There were also talks about Darren Sharper right? Maybe he is our main target. Or maybe they just really feel safe with Eugene Wilson back there
 
TheRealJoker said:
Good to see the Texans draft room has a sense of humor given the "Draft TE" jokes people make on here...

Graham looks like a player, it seems the Texans FO go strictly BPA at this point. Lets just hope it doesn't hurt us like last year (drafting 2 TEs when we had a need for another RB).

This organization does not seem to value the safety position very highly. It seems they are confident in going through the srap heap to find their safeties. They picked up both starters on the street afterall....
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if they would'nt of got lucky and picked up pollard last year that might of cost them their jobs.
 
LOL, it's pretty comical at this point. It's obvious that we fans don't have a feel for how Smithiak wants to build this team. So as a public service announcement, I'll summarize:

DT: They do NOT want big, run stuffing DTS. Only guys that (allegedly) penetrate and put pressure on the QB need apply. I mean, that hasn't worked out yet, but all you fans who want a big DT are clearly off your rocker.

DB: The Texans clearly do not want a rangy CF-type with ballhawking skills. They want players like Brandon Harrison, Dominique Barber, and John Busing. And if Pollard hadn't come along and screwed things up, they wouldn't have gotten a box safety, either. Any of you fans that want a rangy ball hawk best get it out of your minds.

OL: The Texans clearly do not want guys with a strong base that can push the big DTs around. They want smaller, more nimble Cs and Gs that can back up Chris Myers. Banish thy dreams of a power OL!

TE: OK, I'll give this one to you. The Texans do want your kind of TE - whatever it is. They want all the TEs. If they could field a team of 54 TEs, they might.

I reserve the right to eat crow later, but so far their W-L record has not inspired me to buy into their style of team building. But hey, I keep hope alive because I'm a fan.
 
The Pencil Neck said:
Yeah, I had said before the draft that I don't think that the Texans see the FS as a position of need.

I think they're banging on what THEY see as their positions of needs, not what outsiders see as their positions of need.

With Nolan, Barber, and Wilson, they don't see FS as a glaring weakness.

With 3 injured TE's on the squad and probably only Casey being ready for TC, they saw TE as a position of need and they banged it.

I was initially discombobulated by this pick but it makes alot of sense if you think about it.
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Think about it??
Well, where's the fun in that?
:D
 
dalemurphy said:
I have no problem with the pick but I can understand fans freaking out about the safety position as it goes unaddressed. After all, they ignored the position last off-season and it almost ruined our season. If Pollard doesn't fall into our laps, we win 6-7 games last year. We still have 4 picks, though, and I'm counting on some movement.
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When you're boy Studdard is getting major PT next year and they still cant run the ball how are you going to feel DM.

Are you ready for another year of Busing and Barber DM?

Oh well
 
Reshad Jones, Dominique Franks, AOA, Donovan Warren, Perrish Cox, Dezmon Briscoe, & Jonathan Dwyer still on board. Would like any of them with our 5th.
 
utahmark said:
if they would'nt of got lucky and picked up pollard last year that might of cost them their jobs.
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I wouldn't call them "lucky". They also found Wilson on the street the year before that. And Demps was a one year wonder in 07. It seems they are content plucking in safeties on the street instead of banging the whole for good with a premium draft pick.

Almost reminds me of how their old team (Broncos) used to treat RBs. They're so confident that they can put just about anyone in that position they will not spend a premium pick.
 
eriadoc said:
LOL, it's pretty comical at this point. It's obvious that we fans don't have a feel for how Smithiak wants to build this team. So as a public service announcement, I'll summarize:

DT: They do NOT want big, run stuffing DTS. Only guys that (allegedly) penetrate and put pressure on the QB need apply. I mean, that hasn't worked out yet, but all you fans who want a big DT are clearly off your rocker.

DB: The Texans clearly do not want a rangy CF-type with ballhawking skills. They want players like Brandon Harrison and Dominique Barber. And if Pollard hadn't come along and screwed things up, they wouldn't have gotten a box safety, either. Any of you fans that want a rangy ball hawk best get it out of your minds.

OL: The Texans clearly do not want guys with a strong base that can push the big DTs around. They want smaller, more nimble Cs and Gs that can back up Chris Myers. Banish thy dreams of a power OL!

TE: OK, I'll give this one to you. The Texans do want your kind of TE - whatever it is. They want all the TEs. If they could field a team of 54 TEs, they might.

I reserve the right to eat crow later, but so far their W-L record has not inspired me to buy into their style of team building. But hey, I keep hope alive because I'm a fan.
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But i don't like those...:choke:
 
djohn2oo8 said:
Clear need at DT, shame they are too dumb to take a chance on Haynesworth
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you keep ignoring the Texan's defensive philosophy -speed to the ball - and persist on substituting your own reality - Strength > Speed.

I fear that you are doomed to be perpetually disappointed.
 
eriadoc said:
LOL, it's pretty comical at this point. It's obvious that we fans don't have a feel for how Smithiak wants to build this team. So as a public service announcement, I'll summarize:

DT: They do NOT want big, run stuffing DTS. Only guys that (allegedly) penetrate and put pressure on the QB need apply. I mean, that hasn't worked out yet, but all you fans who want a big DT are clearly off your rocker.

DB: The Texans clearly do not want a rangy CF-type with ballhawking skills. They want players like Brandon Harrison, Dominique Barber, and John Busing. And if Pollard hadn't come along and screwed things up, they wouldn't have gotten a box safety, either. Any of you fans that want a rangy ball hawk best get it out of your minds.

OL: The Texans clearly do not want guys with a strong base that can push the big DTs around. They want smaller, more nimble Cs and Gs that can back up Chris Myers. Banish thy dreams of a power OL!

TE: OK, I'll give this one to you. The Texans do want your kind of TE - whatever it is. They want all the TEs. If they could field a team of 54 TEs, they might.

I reserve the right to eat crow later, but so far their W-L record has not inspired me to buy into their style of team building. But hey, I keep hope alive because I'm a fan.
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This

Repped
 
just aheads up guys. mayock is doing instant analysis of each pick of nfl.com. im glad he lost his voice so they had to take him off air and he could do this!

http://chat.nfl.com/front/index/883

Mike Mayock, NFL Network
118 -- Texans -- TE Garrett Graham

The Texans get a really solid player here in Graham. He can line up in-line and compete as a blocker, but probably more effective as an H-Back. He had 51 catches as a senior, and was a three-year starter in one of the most competitive conferences in the country. He has average speed, but a strong, tough kid who will compete.
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steelbtexan said:
When you're boy Studdard is getting major PT next year and they still cant run the ball how are you going to feel DM.

Are you ready for another year of Busing and Barber DM?

Oh well
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I'm going to be sick if Studdard sees the field and I'm going to be homicidal is Busing is on the roster!

We still have 4 picks, UDFAs, FAs like Chester Pitts, trades, and 4 months of off-season... So, I'm not going to freak out just yet.
 
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