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2010 Runningbacks

Not really a Slaton type in that he's more power than speed and doesn't fumble. He's also not nearly the receiving back that slaton is and is pretty much limited to dump offs to the flats.

So far this year he's rushed for 149 yards and 3 TDs at Baylor (4.8 YPC), 95 yards and 1 TD against Pitt (5.8 YPC), and 153 yards and 3 TDs against L'Ville, but keep in mind that he was second on the depth chart until this last week's game. He's also got awesome dreads and that of course just makes a running back look awesome.
 
Dixon link http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/player/profile?playerId=174068

What happened in 2008? Really off year. He is not listed in top 10 RBs and the 10th is projected 5-6 round.

Donald Brown happened in 2008. They were splitting touches essentially with Dixon ahead on the depth chart in '07 then Dixon was injured for the first two games of '08 and Brown never looked back (obviously ended up leading the nation in rushing and unfortunately for me was drafted by our division rival). Dixon never really saw the field because we have a much faster back that complemented Brown well and he didn't even see the field that much. He also got suspended late in the season for a DUI but seems to have matured past that issue.
 
Donald Brown happened in 2008. They were splitting touches essentially with Dixon ahead on the depth chart in '07 then Dixon was injured for the first two games of '08 and Brown never looked back (obviously ended up leading the nation in rushing and unfortunately for me was drafted by our division rival). Dixon never really saw the field because we have a much faster back that complemented Brown well and he didn't even see the field that much. He also got suspended late in the season for a DUI but seems to have matured past that issue.
I remember Donald Brown. How is he doing in NFL?
 
Supposedly the Colts brass was incredibly impressed with how well he's picked up the system, but between splitting carries with Addai, playing behind a terrible run-blocking O-Line, and playing with Manning, he just doesn't get that many shots.
 
The last three games has shown the run avg against our defense dropping and I am concerned that Kubes will go for smaller DTs. Our success while good is based on lighter DTs with more ability than Frank Okam. Not sure that is the way to go.

Yeah, the last three games our run D improved due to addition of Pollard, GQ, and Reeves's returining IMO. I still like for us to give hard look at an athletic big DT either draft or FA after this season. As for now, our big guy like Okam isn't playing well may be due to experience or he just isn't NFL caliber or just pure back up guy.

However, you may be right on Kubes going for smaller DTs with more agile. As long as we can be successful stopping the run with smaller DTs than I have no complain. Personally, I like really big dominate DT period.

Go Texans!!!
 
This is Okam's 2nd year and he just seems lost when I can focus on him. Maybe he just needs more time to develop, but a guy that big should get a few more tackles just standing still and allowing the back to run into him. The issue with just cutting him is there are few big DTs to replace him.
 
WF the problem with 216 playing like 225+ in the NFL is the pounding. This is the concern for Slaton. Yeah he looks good sometimes going for 3-4 between the tackles but you have huge Dlinemen popping you as you run and some hit you pretty square. Even for a big guy it can be very harsh. I'm wanting a guy that is 230+ and plays like 260 with great hands that can catch, block and have enough speed once i the backfield to rumble for 15-20. We do not have that. Only 3 in draft right now; Scott, Gerhart and Dixon. Scott is dropping which does not say much this early. His 2009 is not as productive as 2008.

I guess you've never seen Minor play. He does not take a pounding. He dishes it out. If not for a high ankle sprain that has hindered his season thus far, he would be tearing it up statistically.
 
I guess you've never seen Minor play. He does not take a pounding. He dishes it out. If not for a high ankle sprain that has hindered his season thus far, he would be tearing it up statistically.

I'm going to go ahead and guess he wasn't talking about playing style, just about the everyday pounding any running back takes in the NFL, regardless of their style (but more so when they're a lower their shoulder and run someone over type of guy).
 
Anybody know anything about Anthony Dixon? He's got good size and I've read that he's got good athleticism as well but I haven't seen him play. I'm thinking he could be ours in the 4th or 5th round. Opinions?
 
I'm going to go ahead and guess he wasn't talking about playing style, just about the everyday pounding any running back takes in the NFL, regardless of their style (but more so when they're a lower their shoulder and run someone over type of guy).

I guess so, but it doesn't matter how big you are IMO. RB's get hurt no matter what. Wanting a 260 lb guy just because he is 260 is ridiculous in my mind. Go sign Javorskie Lane and let me know how it works out. If you watch Minor you know that SOB is running his heart out. That's all you can ask for in a RB.
 
I guess you've never seen Minor play. He does not take a pounding. He dishes it out. If not for a high ankle sprain that has hindered his season thus far, he would be tearing it up statistically.
When two players collide regardless of who "wins" it is punishment to the body. Any reputable sources giving evals on your guy?
 
Anybody know anything about Anthony Dixon? He's got good size and I've read that he's got good athleticism as well but I haven't seen him play. I'm thinking he could be ours in the 4th or 5th round. Opinions?

same school as Jerious Norwood (mentor). power back in true sense of word like Michael Turner also playing for Atlanta Falcons w/Norwood. If Toby Gerhart is RB otpion 2a then Dixon is RB option 2b. I still want defensive playmakers 1st day or OL help, he should go in 2nd but excellent value in 3rd. :truck:
 
Supposedly the Colts brass was incredibly impressed with how well he's picked up the system, but between splitting carries with Addai, playing behind a terrible run-blocking O-Line, and playing with Manning, he just doesn't get that many shots.

I always enjoy your inside into UCONN. Big East is such a great resource for talent lately, hurt me to the core to see Indy take Brown, so far Addai is 100% & getting most touches but everytime Donald does get in the game he makes positive yardage. now he's a flex option on my fantasy football team as I'm looking for more touches mid season & keeping Addai fresh.
 
I guess so, but it doesn't matter how big you are IMO. RB's get hurt no matter what. Wanting a 260 lb guy just because he is 260 is ridiculous in my mind. Go sign Javorskie Lane and let me know how it works out. If you watch Minor you know that SOB is running his heart out. That's all you can ask for in a RB.
No it is not all you can ask. Compare a RB like Earl Campbell that deliberately ran over defenders to Peyton who often was critized for running out of bounds. A smaller back can be a great back for many years but the avg is 4 or less. We have a fast strong back in Slaton.
 
same school as Jerious Norwood (mentor). power back in true sense of word like Michael Turner also playing for Atlanta Falcons w/Norwood. If Toby Gerhart is RB otpion 2a then Dixon is RB option 2b. I still want defensive playmakers 1st day or OL help, he should go in 2nd but excellent value in 3rd. :truck:

I agree with secondary and OL help in the early rounds (1-3) but some guys just fall in the draft for unexplicable reasons, happens every year. If this guy were still around in the 4th or 5th round though I think he might be a good pick. I like Gerhart as a 4th or 5th round pick as well but I'm not real high on him. Gerhart doesn't look athletic to me, he runs slow, stiff, and straight. He might be great in college but I doubt his NFL value. I think Gerhart and Dixon's 40 times will hurt them in the draft and there's a good chance they could be good value in later rounds.
 
same school as Jerious Norwood (mentor). power back in true sense of word like Michael Turner also playing for Atlanta Falcons w/Norwood. If Toby Gerhart is RB otpion 2a then Dixon is RB option 2b. I still want defensive playmakers 1st day or OL help, he should go in 2nd but excellent value in 3rd. :truck:
Exactly my eval Beerlover. Link for those interested
http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=64982&draftyear=2010&genpos=RB

One of the things I like about these two RB is they have played some FB and hopefully will have some blocking abilities as well as the size. Slaton has come a long way in this regard and either of these should do well.
 
I agree with secondary and OL help in the early rounds (1-3) but some guys just fall in the draft for unexplicable reasons, happens every year. If this guy were still around in the 4th or 5th round though I think he might be a good pick. I like Gerhart as a 4th or 5th round pick as well but I'm not real high on him. Gerhart doesn't look athletic to me, he runs slow, stiff, and straight. He might be great in college but I doubt his NFL value. I think Gerhart and Dixon's 40 times will hurt them in the draft and there's a good chance they could be good value in later rounds.
Wolf that is very helpful. Have you watched Dixon? If so, give your observations. This is part of the fun of watching those elig for draft and compare to ur needs. I have only seen Gerhart once that I can recall and I did not see what you did but will concentrate if I see him again.
 
Wolf that is very helpful. Have you watched Dixon? If so, give your observations. This is part of the fun of watching those elig for draft and compare to ur needs. I have only seen Gerhart once that I can recall and I did not see what you did but will concentrate if I see him again.

I have not seen Dixon play, thus the reason I brought him up, but I have read some opinions about him on other sites and those folks seemed to like him. I was hoping someone here might have some first hand knowledge about him and might have seen him play. I still think that both guys will have slow 40 times which will most likely hurt them in the draft and think that they'll fall a little to the 4th or 5th rounds. I've only seen a little of Gerhart videos from links, and ESPN highlights but he looks stiff to me and runs very upright, doesn't look real athletic to me. Maybe I'm wrong but I wasn't real impressed and wouldn't spend a high (1-3) pick on him.
 
I have not seen Dixon play, thus the reason I brought him up, but I have read some opinions about him on other sites and those folks seemed to like him. I was hoping someone here might have some first hand knowledge about him and might have seen him play. I still think that both guys will have slow 40 times which will most likely hurt them in the draft and think that they'll fall a little to the 4th or 5th rounds. I've only seen a little of Gerhart videos from links, and ESPN highlights but he looks stiff to me and runs very upright, doesn't look real athletic to me. Maybe I'm wrong but I wasn't real impressed and wouldn't spend a high (1-3) pick on him.

I have only seen Dixon once, and was not really impressed. A fourth rounder in my book, and I could be talked into third depending on how the draft shapes up.

I have seen Gerhart play a couple of times. He posses athletic ability, there is no doubt in my mind. He is not the guy that will dance around everyone, and like I have said before, I dont think he will break many 50+ yard runs. What he does (and does well) is get 4-5 yards a carry consistently. You will rarely see Gerhart get stopped at or behind the line of scrimmage.
 
I have not seen Dixon play, thus the reason I brought him up, but I have read some opinions about him on other sites and those folks seemed to like him. I was hoping someone here might have some first hand knowledge about him and might have seen him play. I still think that both guys will have slow 40 times which will most likely hurt them in the draft and think that they'll fall a little to the 4th or 5th rounds. I've only seen a little of Gerhart videos from links, and ESPN highlights but he looks stiff to me and runs very upright, doesn't look real athletic to me. Maybe I'm wrong but I wasn't real impressed and wouldn't spend a high (1-3) pick on him.
There was a lot of talk about how slow everyone ran at last year's combine. I wonder if that will be an issue in days leading up to the event?
 
Stanford just beat Oregon behind the powerful running of Gerhart. At the moment he has 35 carries for 214 yards and 3 TD's. However, before they started running out the clock he was averaging around 6.8 yards a rush. As it is, he is still averaging 6.1.

*EDIT* Gerhart- 38 carries, 222 yards (5.8) and 3 TDs. The last 10 carries were running out the clock, he was 28 for 199 (7.1) and 3 TD's.
 
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Stanford just beat Oregon behind the powerful running of Gerhart. At the moment he has 35 carries for 214 yards and 3 TD's. However, before they started running out the clock he was averaging around 6.8 yards a rush. As it is, he is still averaging 6.1.

*EDIT* Gerhart- 38 carries, 222 yards (5.8) and 3 TDs. The last 10 carries were running out the clock, he was 28 for 199 (7.1) and 3 TD's.

Finally got a chance to see him play & what a game he had. It would not upset me in the least if the Texans drafted him with their 1st rd. pick. He did have one fumble but it was punched out on a great play, otherwise he has no ball security issues at all covers up ball with both arms in traffic & it takes two or three defenders to bring him down. Also has great vision, good burst into the hole, didn't see his long speed but I'll take his average yds per carry any day. Quote this: Toby could have the same impact offensively as Cushing has defensively for the Texans. He fits a need, has the talent for the next level & in this offense would be un-stoppable.
 
Stanford just beat Oregon behind the powerful running of Gerhart. At the moment he has 35 carries for 214 yards and 3 TD's. However, before they started running out the clock he was averaging around 6.8 yards a rush. As it is, he is still averaging 6.1.

*EDIT* Gerhart- 38 carries, 222 yards (5.8) and 3 TDs. The last 10 carries were running out the clock, he was 28 for 199 (7.1) and 3 TD's.

i'm not sure the reasoning for asterisking the running out the clock carries.
 
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Finally got a chance to see him play & what a game he had. It would not upset me in the least if the Texans drafted him with their 1st rd. pick. He did have one fumble but it was punched out on a great play, otherwise he has no ball security issues at all covers up ball with both arms in traffic & it takes two or three defenders to bring him down. Also has great vision, good burst into the hole, didn't see his long speed but I'll take his average yds per carry any day. Quote this: Toby could have the same impact offensively as Cushing has defensively for the Texans. He fits a need, has the talent for the next level & in this offense would be un-stoppable.

You are on the bandwagon then? Score!

i'm not sure the reasoning for asterisking the running out the clock carries.

5.8 yards per carry is not unbelievable in the college game. For people looking only at the stats, I wanted them to know he was running against 8 or 9 guys in the box for the last 10 carries.
 
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Finally got a chance to see him play & what a game he had. It would not upset me in the least if the Texans drafted him with their 1st rd. pick. He did have one fumble but it was punched out on a great play, otherwise he has no ball security issues at all covers up ball with both arms in traffic & it takes two or three defenders to bring him down. Also has great vision, good burst into the hole, didn't see his long speed but I'll take his average yds per carry any day. Quote this: Toby could have the same impact offensively as Cushing has defensively for the Texans. He fits a need, has the talent for the next level & in this offense would be un-stoppable.
I think a back like Gerhart or Dwyer would really excel with out team. They don't need much of a crack and can power through. Both are down hill runners and tough to bring down. Both will be 21 at beginning of season and offer several years of quality RB barring injury. This type would also help Slaton and Moats. AJ and JJ out wide one side with Slaton out to the other with Moats and Dwyer or Gerhart in backfield.
 
One thing that I look for in a running back is toughness and durability. I don't know if this has been mentioned, but if you look at Ga Tech and their triple option you will see Dwyer getting hit on every play. To defend that triple option you have to tackle the fullback because they will either fake or run that fullback dive on every run play. Dwyer plays the fullback in that system and he is constantly getting hit. It shows toughness and a willingness to do what it takes to win when a talented back like that doesn't complain about being the guy who gets hit on every play. It takes a special back to keep a defense so honest on that triple option. If you don't tackle the fullback against Ga Tech, Dwyer will kill you all game long.


One downside to that offense for Dwyer's transition to the NFL is pass protection. He usually stays in to block on pass plays, but Ga Tech rarely throws the ball. He looks comfortable in pass pro, but I am sure scouts will look at his inexperience in it when evaluating him.

Anyway, I thought it was worth mentioning.
 
One thing that I look for in a running back is toughness and durability. I don't know if this has been mentioned, but if you look at Ga Tech and their triple option you will see Dwyer getting hit on every play. To defend that triple option you have to tackle the fullback because they will either fake or run that fullback dive on every run play. Dwyer plays the fullback in that system and he is constantly getting hit. It shows toughness and a willingness to do what it takes to win when a talented back like that doesn't complain about being the guy who gets hit on every play. It takes a special back to keep a defense so honest on that triple option. If you don't tackle the fullback against Ga Tech, Dwyer will kill you all game long.


One downside to that offense for Dwyer's transition to the NFL is pass protection. He usually stays in to block on pass plays, but Ga Tech rarely throws the ball. He looks comfortable in pass pro, but I am sure scouts will look at his inexperience in it when evaluating him.

Anyway, I thought it was worth mentioning.
Correct. My concern is all the extra hits he gets when he does not have the ball. He is big and strong but that is a pounding. He will need blocking skills if he is drafted by Houston.
 
Stanford lost last night to Cal, 34-28. Gerhart had 20 carries for 134 yards and 4 TD's.

He also trucked about three guys after he caught a pass on a screen.

For me the jury is still out on whether or not Gerhart can be the complete package as a RB in the pros but I have no doubt that he has some sort of future in the NFL. The guy can play.
 
He also trucked about three guys after he caught a pass on a screen.

For me the jury is still out on whether or not Gerhart can be the complete package as a RB in the pros but I have no doubt that he has some sort of future in the NFL. The guy can play.

Yea, I was watching the game, that was sick as hell.

I dont know if he can be a true feature back, but a Slaton (from lst year-slimmed down and explosive)/ Gerhart combo would be nasty.
 
Adding Gerhart would give us one heck of a one-two punch!!! Gerhart could be our starter, getting the majority of the carries and the battering ram we need to keep Peyton off the field. Slaton would be in his more natural 3rd down back role and would allow us to get creative with packages having both guys on the field and give Slaton more opportunities in space because Gerhart would handle the interior OL.

Shore up the interior OL, add Gerhart and this offense is not only elite in yards but also in scoring points. Then we can actually finish a game because we can run out the clock.
 
Ok, who watched the Stanford- Notre Dame game? Gerhart was an absolute beast, thats all I have to say. Good night everyone.
 
That Notre Dame game was like a live highlight reel for Toby the Tank. If the Texans draft him I would get his jersey as soon as the pick is announced.
 
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