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2010 Safeties

SAMURAITEXAN said:
Do yall think Berry go top 5? I saw his plays through internet and boy I really like him.

Can we trade up and get him? Highly doubt will happen but, what we need to give up to draft player like Berry?

Go Texans!!!
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I think there is a very high probability that Berry goes in the top five. If I had the #1 pick I would have no problem taking him there.

Safeties don't normally go that high in the first round but Berry is not a normal player.
 
bah007 said:
I think there is a very high probability that Berry goes in the top five. If I had the #1 pick I would have no problem taking him there.

Safeties don't normally go that high in the first round but Berry is not a normal player.
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Let's say we ended up between twenty to twenty fifth pick, what would be the cost for us? I know it is too early and it is depend upon trading partner but, I am just curious to know the cost of trading up that high. Pro bowl caliber + 1rd pick or 2 1st rd pick like 2010 and 2011? Just let me know your thoughts.

Go Texans!!!
 
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if you have a top 5 pick and have to choose between Berry and Suh, i can't think of a better place to be.

what i'm saying is you guys should tank the season. yes, it's early, but still.
 
Wolf6151 said:
Good point, I never thought of the supplemental pick if we lose Dunta. You know Smithiak will pick a developmental player somewhere and waste an early pick, they do it every year.

You know one of Kubiaks son's plays Safety for Colorado St. Univ. and he's a senior this year, we might take him high in the draft as a developmental player. Scary thought huh?
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Rumor is Mike Shannahan will hire Kube's kid as a WR coach for the Cowboys as soon as he graduates.:smiliedance:
 
Wolf6151 said:
Good point, I never thought of the supplemental pick if we lose Dunta.
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These picks are known as compensatory picks not supplemental picks. Back on thread, I am still riding the Barry Church train. Good size, decent speed and can hit. He is still flying under the radar and if he can be had in later rds it will allow us to address O-Line, CB, RB or whatever earlier.
 
Statistical production so far:

Eric Berry -
Western Kentucky - 3 tackles, 1 pass defended
UCLA - 10 tackles, .5 TFL
at Florida - 11 tackles, 2 TFL, 1 INT
Ohio - 7 tackles, .5 TFL
Auburn - 14 tackles, 1 TFL, 1 pass defended
Georgia - 5 tackles, 2 passes defended, 1 fumble recovery
at Alabama - 5 tackles, .5 TFL, 2 passes defended, 1 forced fumble
South Carolina - 2 tackles

Morgan Burnett -
Jacksonville St - 5 tackles, .5 TFL, 1 pass defended, 1 INT
Clemson - 1 tackle
at Miami - 8 tackles
North Carolina - 6 tackles, 2 INTs
at Mississippi St - 7 tackles, 1 pass defended
at Florida St - 6 tackles
Virginia Tech - 4 tackles, 1 pass defended, 1 INT
at Virginia - 2 tackles, 1 pass defended
at Vanderbilt - 5 tackles

Taylor Mays -
San Jose St - 6 tackles
at Ohio St - 8 tackles
at Washington - DNP (injury)
Washington St - 4 tackles
at California - 10 tackles, 1 INT
at Notre Dame - 10 tackles
Oregon St - 11 tackles
at Oregon - 8 tackles

Earl Thomas -
UL Monroe - 2 passes defended
at Wyoming - 2 tackles, 1 pass defended
Texas Tech - 8 tackles, 1 pass defended, 1 INT
UTEP - 2 INTs
Colorado - 4 tackles, 1 INT, 1 TD
vs Oklahoma - 7 tackles, 2 TFL, 1 FF, 1 pass defended, 1 INT
at Missouri - 6 tackles
at Oklahoma St - 2 tackles, 2 passes defended, 1 INT, 1 TD
 
bah007 said:
Statistical production so far:

Eric Berry -
Western Kentucky - 3 tackles, 1 pass defended
UCLA - 10 tackles, .5 TFL
at Florida - 11 tackles, 2 TFL, 1 INT
Ohio - 7 tackles, .5 TFL
Auburn - 14 tackles, 1 TFL, 1 pass defended
Georgia - 5 tackles, 2 passes defended, 1 fumble recovery
at Alabama - 5 tackles, .5 TFL, 2 passes defended, 1 forced fumble
South Carolina - 2 tackles

Morgan Burnett -
Jacksonville St - 5 tackles, .5 TFL, 1 pass defended, 1 INT
Clemson - 1 tackle
at Miami - 8 tackles
North Carolina - 6 tackles, 2 INTs
at Mississippi St - 7 tackles, 1 pass defended
at Florida St - 6 tackles
Virginia Tech - 4 tackles, 1 pass defended, 1 INT
at Virginia - 2 tackles, 1 pass defended
at Vanderbilt - 5 tackles

Taylor Mays -
San Jose St - 6 tackles
at Ohio St - 8 tackles
at Washington - DNP (injury)
Washington St - 4 tackles
at California - 10 tackles, 1 INT
at Notre Dame - 10 tackles
Oregon St - 11 tackles
at Oregon - 8 tackles

Earl Thomas -
UL Monroe - 2 passes defended
at Wyoming - 2 tackles, 1 pass defended
Texas Tech - 8 tackles, 1 pass defended, 1 INT
UTEP - 2 INTs
Colorado - 4 tackles, 1 INT, 1 TD
vs Oklahoma - 7 tackles, 2 TFL, 1 FF, 1 pass defended, 1 INT
at Missouri - 6 tackles
at Oklahoma St - 2 tackles, 2 passes defended, 1 INT, 1 TD
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Walters has Texans getting Thomas # 20. As a red shirt soph. I have yet to see much of him though I try to watch every game. Your eval? I would expect him to stay in school based on Brown's history but if the kid can get a first round rating from NFl, he should come out.
 
badboy said:
Walters has Texans getting Thomas # 20. As a red shirt soph. I have yet to see much of him though I try to watch every game. Your eval? I would expect him to stay in school based on Brown's history but if the kid can get a first round rating from NFl, he should come out.
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I think 20 might be a little high, but I do like him as a prospect. He reminds me a lot of Donte Whitner(BUF), but with better instincts and ball skills. I've only seen 4 games this year, but he is always around the ball, jumping routes, and generally being disruptive.

At 5'10 200 he's not going to wow anybody with his size, but he has the strength and athletic ability to play SS, FS and CB effectively.

A Texas fan can probably give you more in depth info on his overall gameplay.
 
I think Tyler Sash would be the perfect ballhawk for this team :)

If you draftnicks are correct we could get him around the 3rd-4th round and use the early picks somewhere else, perhaps on a franchise RB, DT, or stud interior OL?
 
Goatcheese said:
I think 20 might be a little high, but I do like him as a prospect. He reminds me a lot of Donte Whitner(BUF), but with better instincts and ball skills. I've only seen 4 games this year, but he is always around the ball, jumping routes, and generally being disruptive.

At 5'10 200 he's not going to wow anybody with his size, but he has the strength and athletic ability to play SS, FS and CB effectively.

A Texas fan can probably give you more in depth info on his overall gameplay.
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Yea, I'm not going to act like I've seen the guy play throughout his whole career, but what I have seen this year is great footwork.

When the ball is in the air he really gets into good position to make a play.

I either haven't seen him enough or can't remember what I have seen to grade him against the run.
 
TexansSeminole said:
Yea, I'm not going to act like I've seen the guy play throughout his whole career, but what I have seen this year is great footwork.

When the ball is in the air he really gets into good position to make a play.

I either haven't seen him enough or can't remember what I have seen to grade him against the run.
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From the little I've seen he's not really asked to defend the run in Texas' defensive scheme, but when he does come up and support he seems to be fairly effective, but not a force like Berry.
 
bah007 said:
Statistical production so far:

Eric Berry -
Western Kentucky - 3 tackles, 1 pass defended
UCLA - 10 tackles, .5 TFL
at Florida - 11 tackles, 2 TFL, 1 INT
Ohio - 7 tackles, .5 TFL
Auburn - 14 tackles, 1 TFL, 1 pass defended
Georgia - 5 tackles, 2 passes defended, 1 fumble recovery
at Alabama - 5 tackles, .5 TFL, 2 passes defended, 1 forced fumble
South Carolina - 2 tackles

Morgan Burnett -
Jacksonville St - 5 tackles, .5 TFL, 1 pass defended, 1 INT
Clemson - 1 tackle
at Miami - 8 tackles
North Carolina - 6 tackles, 2 INTs
at Mississippi St - 7 tackles, 1 pass defended
at Florida St - 6 tackles
Virginia Tech - 4 tackles, 1 pass defended, 1 INT
at Virginia - 2 tackles, 1 pass defended
at Vanderbilt - 5 tackles

Taylor Mays -
San Jose St - 6 tackles
at Ohio St - 8 tackles
at Washington - DNP (injury)
Washington St - 4 tackles
at California - 10 tackles, 1 INT
at Notre Dame - 10 tackles
Oregon St - 11 tackles
at Oregon - 8 tackles

Earl Thomas -
UL Monroe - 2 passes defended
at Wyoming - 2 tackles, 1 pass defended
Texas Tech - 8 tackles, 1 pass defended, 1 INT
UTEP - 2 INTs
Colorado - 4 tackles, 1 INT, 1 TD
vs Oklahoma - 7 tackles, 2 TFL, 1 FF, 1 pass defended, 1 INT
at Missouri - 6 tackles
at Oklahoma St - 2 tackles, 2 passes defended, 1 INT, 1 TD
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I couldn't find info on Berry but this is what I have from the past week on the rest of the guys.

Morgan Burnett had 9 tackles, .5 for loss vs Wake Forest.

Earl Thomas had 5 tackles vs UCF.

Mays had 5 tackles vs Arizona State.
 
Statistical production so far:

Eric Berry -
Western Kentucky - 3 tackles, 1 pass defended
UCLA - 10 tackles, .5 TFL
at Florida - 11 tackles, 2 TFL, 1 INT
Ohio - 7 tackles, .5 TFL
Auburn - 14 tackles, 1 TFL, 1 pass defended
Georgia - 5 tackles, 2 passes defended, 1 fumble recovery
at Alabama - 5 tackles, .5 TFL, 2 passes defended, 1 forced fumble
South Carolina - 2 tackles
Memphis - 5 tackles, 1 INT, 1 fumble recovered
at Mississippi - 8 tackles

Morgan Burnett -
Jacksonville St - 5 tackles, .5 TFL, 1 pass defended, 1 INT
Clemson - 1 tackle
at Miami - 8 tackles
North Carolina - 6 tackles, 2 INTs
at Mississippi St - 7 tackles, 1 pass defended
at Florida St - 6 tackles
Virginia Tech - 4 tackles, 1 pass defended, 1 INT
at Virginia - 2 tackles, 1 pass defended
at Vanderbilt - 5 tackles
Wake Forest - 9 tackles, .5 TFL
at Duke - 4 tackles, 1 blocked kick

Taylor Mays -
San Jose St - 6 tackles
at Ohio St - 8 tackles
at Washington - DNP (injury)
Washington St - 4 tackles
at California - 10 tackles, 1 INT
at Notre Dame - 10 tackles
Oregon St - 11 tackles
at Oregon - 8 tackles
at Arizona St - 5 tackles
Stanford - 11 tackles, 1 pass defended

Earl Thomas -
UL Monroe - 2 passes defended
at Wyoming - 2 tackles, 1 pass defended
Texas Tech - 8 tackles, 1 pass defended, 1 INT
UTEP - 2 INTs
Colorado - 4 tackles, 1 INT, 1 TD
vs Oklahoma - 7 tackles, 2 TFL, 1 FF, 1 pass defended, 1 INT
at Missouri - 6 tackles
at Oklahoma St - 2 tackles, 2 passes defended, 1 INT, 1 TD
UCF - 5 tackles
at Baylor - 5 tackles, .5 TFL
 
Statistical production so far:

Eric Berry -
Western Kentucky - 3 tackles, 1 pass defended
UCLA - 10 tackles, .5 TFL
at Florida - 11 tackles, 2 TFL, 1 INT
Ohio - 7 tackles, .5 TFL
Auburn - 14 tackles, 1 TFL, 1 pass defended
Georgia - 5 tackles, 2 passes defended, 1 fumble recovery
at Alabama - 5 tackles, .5 TFL, 2 passes defended, 1 forced fumble
South Carolina - 2 tackles
Memphis - 5 tackles, 1 INT, 1 fumble recovered
at Mississippi - 8 tackles
Vanderbilt - 5 tackles

Morgan Burnett -
Jacksonville St - 5 tackles, .5 TFL, 1 pass defended, 1 INT
Clemson - 1 tackle
at Miami - 8 tackles
North Carolina - 6 tackles, 2 INTs
at Mississippi St - 7 tackles, 1 pass defended
at Florida St - 6 tackles
Virginia Tech - 4 tackles, 1 pass defended, 1 INT
at Virginia - 2 tackles, 1 pass defended
at Vanderbilt - 5 tackles
Wake Forest - 9 tackles, .5 TFL
at Duke - 4 tackles, 1 blocked kick

Taylor Mays -
San Jose St - 6 tackles
at Ohio St - 8 tackles
at Washington - DNP (injury)
Washington St - 4 tackles
at California - 10 tackles, 1 INT
at Notre Dame - 10 tackles
Oregon St - 11 tackles
at Oregon - 8 tackles
at Arizona St - 5 tackles
Stanford - 11 tackles, 1 pass defended

Earl Thomas -
UL Monroe - 2 passes defended
at Wyoming - 2 tackles, 1 pass defended
Texas Tech - 8 tackles, 1 pass defended, 1 INT
UTEP - 2 INTs
Colorado - 4 tackles, 1 INT, 1 TD
vs Oklahoma - 7 tackles, 2 TFL, 1 FF, 1 pass defended, 1 INT
at Missouri - 6 tackles
at Oklahoma St - 2 tackles, 2 passes defended, 1 INT, 1 TD
UCF - 5 tackles
at Baylor - 5 tackles, .5 TFL
Kansas - 9 tackles, 1 TFL, 1 pass defended, 1 INT
 
Thomas had a good game against KU. He was good in run support and was quick to flow to the ball on the speed option. His interception was a gift. The WR literally fell down 4 yards before. I don't know if he's first round material, but he is definitely a player. I was impressed overall.
 
Piggybacking off Bah.

Statistical production so far:

Eric Berry -
Western Kentucky - 3 tackles, 1 pass defended
UCLA - 10 tackles, .5 TFL
at Florida - 11 tackles, 2 TFL, 1 INT
Ohio - 7 tackles, .5 TFL
Auburn - 14 tackles, 1 TFL, 1 pass defended
Georgia - 5 tackles, 2 passes defended, 1 fumble recovery
at Alabama - 5 tackles, .5 TFL, 2 passes defended, 1 forced fumble
South Carolina - 2 tackles
Memphis - 5 tackles, 1 INT, 1 fumble recovered
at Mississippi - 8 tackles
Vanderbilt - 5 tackles
at Kentucky - 8 tackles, 1 TFL, 1 pass defended

Morgan Burnett -
Jacksonville St - 5 tackles, .5 TFL, 1 pass defended, 1 INT
Clemson - 1 tackle
at Miami - 8 tackles
North Carolina - 6 tackles, 2 INTs
at Mississippi St - 7 tackles, 1 pass defended
at Florida St - 6 tackles
Virginia Tech - 4 tackles, 1 pass defended, 1 INT
at Virginia - 2 tackles, 1 pass defended
at Vanderbilt - 5 tackles
Wake Forest - 9 tackles, .5 TFL
at Duke - 4 tackles, 1 blocked kick
Georgia - 16 tackles, .5 TFL

Taylor Mays -
San Jose St - 6 tackles
at Ohio St - 8 tackles
at Washington - DNP (injury)
Washington St - 4 tackles
at California - 10 tackles, 1 INT
at Notre Dame - 10 tackles
Oregon St - 11 tackles
at Oregon - 8 tackles
at Arizona St - 5 tackles
Stanford - 11 tackles, 1 pass defended
Game against UCLA stats weren't available yet

Earl Thomas -
UL Monroe - 2 passes defended
at Wyoming - 2 tackles, 1 pass defended
Texas Tech - 8 tackles, 1 pass defended, 1 INT
UTEP - 2 INTs
Colorado - 4 tackles, 1 INT, 1 TD
vs Oklahoma - 7 tackles, 2 TFL, 1 FF, 1 pass defended, 1 INT
at Missouri - 6 tackles
at Oklahoma St - 2 tackles, 2 passes defended, 1 INT, 1 TD
UCF - 5 tackles
at Baylor - 5 tackles, .5 TFL
Kansas - 9 tackles, 1 TFL, 1 pass defended, 1 INT
at Texas A&M - 9 tackles, 1 TFL, 1 pass defended, 1 INT

A guy I would like to add to this list is Junior DeAndre McDaniel from Clemson.

Stats for McDaniel on season:

12 games; 79 tackles, 3.5 TFL, 2 sacks, 8 INTs (1 TD), 10 passes defended.
 
Statistical production so far:

Eric Berry -
Western Kentucky - 3 tackles, 1 pass defended
UCLA - 10 tackles, .5 TFL
at Florida - 11 tackles, 2 TFL, 1 INT
Ohio - 7 tackles, .5 TFL
Auburn - 14 tackles, 1 TFL, 1 pass defended
Georgia - 5 tackles, 2 passes defended, 1 fumble recovery
at Alabama - 5 tackles, .5 TFL, 2 passes defended, 1 forced fumble
South Carolina - 2 tackles
Memphis - 5 tackles, 1 INT, 1 fumble recovered
at Mississippi - 8 tackles
Vanderbilt - 5 tackles
at Kentucky - 8 tackles, 1 TFL, 1 pass defended

Morgan Burnett -
Jacksonville St - 5 tackles, .5 TFL, 1 pass defended, 1 INT
Clemson - 1 tackle
at Miami - 8 tackles
North Carolina - 6 tackles, 2 INTs
at Mississippi St - 7 tackles, 1 pass defended
at Florida St - 6 tackles
Virginia Tech - 4 tackles, 1 pass defended, 1 INT
at Virginia - 2 tackles, 1 pass defended
at Vanderbilt - 5 tackles
Wake Forest - 9 tackles, .5 TFL
at Duke - 4 tackles, 1 blocked kick
Georgia - 16 tackles, .5 TFL
vs Clemson - 4 tackles, 1 TFL

Taylor Mays -
San Jose St - 6 tackles
at Ohio St - 8 tackles
at Washington - DNP (injury)
Washington St - 4 tackles
at California - 10 tackles, 1 INT
at Notre Dame - 10 tackles
Oregon St - 11 tackles
at Oregon - 8 tackles
at Arizona St - 5 tackles
Stanford - 11 tackles, 1 pass defended
UCLA - 9 tackles
Arizona - 9 tackles, 2 passes defended

Earl Thomas -
UL Monroe - 2 passes defended
at Wyoming - 2 tackles, 1 pass defended
Texas Tech - 8 tackles, 1 pass defended, 1 INT
UTEP - 2 INTs
Colorado - 4 tackles, 1 INT, 1 TD
vs Oklahoma - 7 tackles, 2 TFL, 1 FF, 1 pass defended, 1 INT
at Missouri - 6 tackles
at Oklahoma St - 2 tackles, 2 passes defended, 1 INT, 1 TD
UCF - 5 tackles
at Baylor - 5 tackles, .5 TFL
Kansas - 9 tackles, 1 TFL, 1 pass defended, 1 INT
at Texas A&M - 9 tackles, 1 TFL, 1 INT
vs Nebraska - 2 tackles, 1 pass defended
 
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