Texans/Combine news dump

[AcresHomesTexan]

St. Paul’s Toler Is An NFL Sleeper
Posted by Aaron Wilson on March 27, 2009, 1:36 p.m.
St. Paul’s (Va.) cornerback Greg Toler is making his bid to emerge as this year’s Domonique Rodgers-Cromartie, and has been drawing increased interest from NFL teams.

Toler had private workouts this week with the Cleveland Browns and the Miami Dolphins this week.

Toler told us in a telephone interview that he has upcoming visits with the Washington Redskins, Houston Texans, San Francisco 49ers, Pittsburgh Steelers, Minnesota Vikings, New York Jets, Arizona Cardinals, Cleveland Browns, Green Bay Packers, Tampa Bay Buccaneers and the Jacksonville Jaguars.

“I’m hoping to get that chance to prove myself,” Toler said. “Domonique Rodgers-Cromartie took the small-school route, and I’m looking to do the same thing. If I had gone to a bigger school, I might have gotten complacent.

“From where I’m coming from, I treasure this a lot more. I don’t complain about anything, and I just appreciate the opportunity. This is my dream.”

According to NFL.com, Toler has been projected as a mid-round to late-round draft pick. He’s hoping to go as high as the second or third round.

Listed at 5-foot-11, 191 pounds, Toler has run a hand-timed 4.35 in the 40-yard dash. He intercepted 14 career passes at St. Paul’s.

Toler had academic problems coming out of high school in the Washington D.C. area. Now, he’s six credits shy of earning a degree.

“I didn’t take my classes very seriously at that time,” Toler said. “I was working at a JC Penney. I couldn’t see myself doing that for my life, so I was blessed to go to St. Paul’s. I don’t have any regrets. It’s a small, isolated school where you can concentrate on academics and football.

“The strength of my game is that I’m a cover cornerback. I’ll come up and tackle, too. I want to be one of the best cornerbacks in the NFL one day. I grew up watching Champ Bailey and Deion Sanders, and those are my favorite cornerbacks.”

profootballtalk.com

 

[wags]

NFL | Several teams requested interview with Vaughn
Sat, 28 Mar 2009 06:24:17 -0700

Ed Thompson, of Scout.com, reports the Dallas Cowboys, the San Diego Chargers, the Houston Texans, the Cleveland Browns, the New England Patriots and the San Francisco 49ers were just a few of the teams that requested a formal interview with Wake Forest S Chip Vaughn at the NFL Scouting Combine.

http://kffl.com

Saw he was listed in an earlier post.

Vaughn is 6'1" 221lbs and is projected as a mid rounder. He is known as a hitter, not a cover guy.

 

[AcresHomesTexan]

Biggers Turning Combine Snub Into Big Buzz
Posted by Mike Florio on March 28, 2009, 6:42 p.m.
Western Michigan cornerback E.J. Biggers wasn’t invited to the Scouting Combine.

But he already has been invited to visit with three teams.

Per a league source, Biggers has scheduled visits with the Buccaneers, Chargers, and Texans.

And the buzz on Biggers is building after he ran the 40-yard dash in 4.35 seconds at his Pro Day Workout.

profootballtalk.com

 

[wags]

Texans | Knox has private workout scheduled
Sun, 29 Mar 2009 15:19:34 -0700

Josh Buchanan, of NFLDraftBible.com, reports Abilene Christian WR Johnny Knox has a private workout scheduled with the Houston Texans for April 4.

http://kffl.com

Knox is 6'0" 185 lbs and ran a 4.34 at the Combine. He is considered a late round draft pick.

 

[AcresHomesTexan]

Former Florida State cornerback Tony Carter has visits set up with the Cowboys, Texans, Steelers and the Patriots.

per draftdaddy.com

 

[wags]

NFL | Several teams could meet with S. Allen
Mon, 30 Mar 2009 06:32:34 -0700

Josh Buchanan, of NFLDraftBible.com, reports Grand Valley State OT Samuel Allen has attracted interest from the Atlanta Falcons, Houston Texans, New Orleans Saints, Indianapolis Colts and Jacksonville Jaguars for possible visits. Allen has attracted the most interest from the Falcons, Texans and Tennessee Titans.

NFL | Coen attracting interest
Mon, 30 Mar 2009 06:24:49 -0700

Josh Buchanan, of NFLDraftBible.com, reports Massachusetts QB Liam Coen has attracted interest from the San Francisco 49ers, Atlanta Falcons, Houston Texans and New York Giants.

http://kffl.com

Neither was invited to the combine and both players would probably be 7th round or UDFA.

 

[El Tejano]

I like how we are looking for speed in the WR department. Johnny Knox would be pretty awesome.

 

[HOU-TEX]

I like how we are looking for speed in the WR department. Johnny Knox would be pretty awesome.

K/P returner. If so, see ya JJ.

 

[rmartin65]

I enjoy reading that the Texans are looking at small school players, and I would like to give you all my thoughts on these select guys.

CB Greg Toler, St. Paul's
Nice size for a corner, at 5'11" 185-190 lbs, also with a knack for the big play (14 INT). Has great athleticism, sub 4.4 speed. I only worry about his play recognition. 6-7th round pick

WR Johnny Knox, Abilene Christian
My favorite small school receiver, Knox has lots of speed. However, he is not a one trick pony. He is an all around athlete, as shown by his 35" vertical and 6.81 3Cone. The main concern with him is his size, 6' 185 lbs. 4th rounder.

QB Liam Coen, Massachusetts
There are better small school quarterbacks, I am trying to figure this one out. Shorter than one would like at 6'1", but solid (223 lbs), and his athleticism leaves a bit to be desired. One cannot deny his throwing ability though, as he is incredibly accurate, and has a 2:1 TD-INT ratio. UDFA

OT Samuel Allen, Grand Valley State
Nice sized tackle with above average athleticism. I like him for the zone blocking scheme. 7th rounder.

 

[wags]

Texans | Westerman scheduled to work out
Mon, 30 Mar 2009 17:21:43 -0700

J.J. Pesavento, of NFLDraftBible.com, reports Rutgers DL Jamaal Westerman is scheduled to work out with the Houston Texans.

http://kffl.com

Westerman is 260 lbs and probably a 7th rd or UDFA.

 

[AcresHomesTexan]

Josh Buchanan, of NFLDraftBible.com, reports Hartwick QB Jason Boltus interviewed with the Green Bay Packers, Carolina Panthers, Oakland Raiders, Houston Texans, Jacksonville Jaguars, Denver Broncos and San Francisco 49ers during the NFL Scouting Combine.

Josh Buchanan, of NFLDraftBible.com, reports New Mexico State S Derrick Richardson is scheduled to visit the Houston Texans next week.

kffl.com posts

 

[HOU-TEX]

This is kinda random, but when it says a player has a visit scheduled does it mean the player is coming to Houston to visit or is a Houston rep meeting the player at their own facilities?

 

[rmartin65]

I like Boltus for the Texans, in the 7th. He has all the physical tools, just played at the DIII level. He would spend a year on the PS most likely.

 

[El Tejano]

Josh Buchanan, of NFLDraftBible.com, reports New Mexico State S Derrick Richardson is scheduled to visit the Houston Texans next week.

kffl.com posts

AAHH! Beat me to it.

 

[El Tejano]

For everyone wondering if we will get a RB in the 1st, what RB have we brought in for a visit?

 

[Kaiser Toro]

This is kinda random, but when it says a player has a visit scheduled does it mean the player is coming to Houston to visit or is a Houston rep meeting the player at their own facilities?

Not sure how it is with the NFL, but when I was working as an agent the NBA team that scheduled the visit would pay for it.

 

[keyser]

This is going off on a tangent, but last year, was there any indication before draft day that the team had met with Duane Brown? Or, for that matter, Molden, Slaton, etc.?

 

[DiehardChris]

This is going off on a tangent, but last year, was there any indication before draft day that the team had met with Duane Brown? Or, for that matter, Molden, Slaton, etc.?

I checked the KFFL archives, because your question made me curious.

I saw no reports of workouts or interest in Brown or Slaton, Adibi, etc.

Molden however, did do a private workout with us.

 

[76Texan]

I checked the KFFL archives, because your question made me curious.

I saw no reports of workouts or interest in Brown or Slaton, Adibi, etc.

Molden however, did do a private workout with us.

Didn't seem that they go all rahrah with Duane Brown, but maybe they didn't want to tip their hands.

Brown did answer an interview question, that he was told the Texans were interested in him at the Shriner game.
Kubiak also said that he likes Brown at the combine.

 

[HOU-TEX]

Any news on USC's pro day yet? A freakin buttload of NFL prospects will be working out today in SoCal.

 

[AcresHomesTexan]

Former Stephen F. Austin tight end Tyrell Williams is scheduled to workout at the Texans local Pro Day on Saturday. Houston, Kansas City and Jacksonville have shown significant interest in the promising tight end, who ran a 4.72 40 and displayed a 32" vertical jump at almost 6' 5" and 252 pounds at his Pro Day.

profootballtalk.com

 

[wags]

From kffl....

NFL | Ogbonnaya to visit multiple teams
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Wed, 01 Apr 2009 06:53:46 -0700

J.J. Pesavento, of NFLDraftBible.com, reports Texas RB Chris Ogbonnaya will visit the San Diego Chargers and Houston Texans.

At 6'0" 220 lbs and with the Texans interest in Andre Brown it looks like we might be drafting a big back.

 

[AcresHomesTexan]

This is going off on a tangent, but last year, was there any indication before draft day that the team had met with Duane Brown? Or, for that matter, Molden, Slaton, etc.?

The texans are not that forthcoming with workouts and visits, so to say they did not at any point would be a guess, but remember those visits are no different than our interviews in the real world. sometimes they find out they don't like the player or just like others more when a team talks to a player. Also, ton of informal interviewing goes on at all-star practices, the combine and these wrokouts

 

[HOU-TEX]

From kffl....




At 6'0" 220 lbs and with the Texans interest in Andre Brown it looks like we might be drafting a big back.

Where did it say we were interested in Brown? I missed it?

 

[wags]

Where did it say we were interested in Brown? I missed it?

It was posted a while back.

 

[wags]

Any news on USC's pro day yet? A freakin buttload of NFL prospects will be working out today in SoCal.

from kffl...

NFL | Cushing runs at Pro Day
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Wed, 01 Apr 2009 12:42:51 -0700

Andrew Garda, of NFLDraftBible.com, reports University of Southern California LB Brian Cushing ran the 40-yard dash in 4.70 seconds at his Pro Day.

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NFL | Matthews runs at Pro Day
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Wed, 01 Apr 2009 12:41:01 -0700

Andrew Garda, of NFLDraftBible.com, reports University of Southern California LB Clay Matthews ran the 40-yard dash in 4.44 seconds at his Pro Day.

 

[HOU-TEX]

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Holy hauling ass, Batman!! A 4.44 for Mathews??!! I think that might put him out of the Texans reach.

Crap, the rate this draft is going we might end up getting a long snapper at 15.

 

[The Pencil Neck]

Wow. 4.44? Wow.

This may be a mamula situation but... I am now on-board with this pick. And of course, he'll be gone by our pick now.

 

[Ole Miss Texan]

Dang, that's a GREAT time for Matthews! He pretty much outperformed most of the LBs at the Combine- top 5 performer in a lot of the events. Guy really helped himself during the offseason.

This 40 doesn't change how I feel about him, at all though. If he can play SLB in our 4-3 and possibly move up to rush the passer on some downs, then he's rated extremely high (trouble is I don't know if he can or not). However, if he's a 3-4 LB and wouldn't really fit on our team, then I don't want him at 15.

 

[wags]

Interesting to note that Matthews ran a 4.67 at the combine and Cushing ran a 4.74. Makes you scratch your head a little??

 

[The Pencil Neck]

Interesting to note that Matthews ran a 4.67 at the combine and Cushing ran a 4.74. Makes you scratch your head a little??

IIRC, at the Combine, Matthews had a very, very fast 10 or shuttle or something. This speed is actually more in line with whatever that other thing was.

 

[Jackie Chiles]

I guess some sources have different times which would explain the 4.44 but here are the preliminary times from NFL.com that happen to be a bit more in line with what they did at the combine:

http://blogs.nfl.com/category/pro-days/

NFL Network draft analyst Mike Mayock reports the following 40-yard dash times at USC’s pro day:

LB Kaluka Maiava: 4.68; LB Clay Matthews: 4.57; DE Kyle Moore: 4.76; LB Brian Cushing: 4.68; CB Cary Harris: 4.89; WR Patrick Turner: 4.63; S Kevin Ellison: 4.70.

Mayock also reports that QB Mark Sanchez did not run a 40 and that LB Rey Maualuga will run his later in the day.

 

[mussop]

Dang, that's a GREAT time for Matthews! He pretty much outperformed most of the LBs at the Combine- top 5 performer in a lot of the events. Guy really helped himself during the offseason.

This 40 doesn't change how I feel about him, at all though. If he can play SLB in our 4-3 and possibly move up to rush the passer on some downs, then he's rated extremely high (trouble is I don't know if he can or not). However, if he's a 3-4 LB and wouldn't really fit on our team, then I don't want him at 15.

Did you see the catch he made at his pro day on Path to the draft? WOW! So much for him being just a 3/4 OLB. I just hope he is still there at 15 and we dont get any real good trade down offers.

 

[TheRealJoker]

Matthews is making it really hard for us to take him after trading down with these numbers.

 

[Ole Miss Texan]

Did you see the catch he made at his pro day on Path to the draft? WOW! So much for him being just a 3/4 OLB. I just hope he is still there at 15 and we dont get any real good trade down offers.

http://www.nfl.com/nflnetwork/shows...ams/pathtothedraft&subjectType=pathtothedraft
2nd video shows the linebackers. Matthews looked downright impressive and seemed MUCH more polished than the other 2. Great great catch at the end.

 

[threetoedpete]

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http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80f8ecee

I'm not going to be shocked at all if Singletary takes Mathews at the ten spot.

 

[Maddict5]

This is going off on a tangent, but last year, was there any indication before draft day that the team had met with Duane Brown? Or, for that matter, Molden, Slaton, etc.?

they brought in molden and we heard about it.. same with jacoby the yr before. thats all i think

 

[AcresHomesTexan]

Josh Buchanan, of NFLDraftBible.com, reports the Houston Texans, New York Jets, New England Patriots, Carolina Panthers and Philadelphia Eagles have shown interest in University of Delaware TE Robbie Agnone.

kffl.com

 

[AcresHomesTexan]

Rutgers cornerback Jason McCourty, who clocked a 4.30 and a 4.34 in the 40-yard dash at his campus Pro Day workout, has set up several visits, according to a league source.

The 5′11, 193-pounder is scheduled to visit the Houston Texans next week followed by visits with the Green Bay Packers and the Jacksonville Jaguars.

McCourty, who has a 3.4 grade point average and will graduate in May, has also been invited to the New York Giants and the New York Jets’ respective local prospect days.

McCourty has registered a 36 1/2 inch vertical leap, a 10-5 broad jump and bench pressed 225 pounds 15 times during workouts for NFL teams.

profootballtalk.com

 

[El Tejano]

From kffl....




At 6'0" 220 lbs and with the Texans interest in Andre Brown it looks like we might be drafting a big back.

Potential Undrafted FA. He's nothing too special but he can play.

 

[infantrycak]

I love the ever changing definitions. When DD was here at 221 lbs we needed a big back and he was too small. Now 220 lbs is a big back.

 

[wags]

I love the ever changing definitions. When DD was here at 221 lbs we needed a big back and he was too small. Now 220 lbs is a big back.

I consider a 220 lb college back to be big. If you look at the Combine invitees and their weights there are not many RB's over 220 lbs. Compared to what we currently have they are certainly bigger.

With DD I believe his history of injury is what made some believe he needed, or the team needed more bulk.

 

[AcresHomesTexan]

Josh Buchanan, of NFLDraftBible.com, reports Saint Paul's CB Greg Toler is scheduled to visit with the Green Bay Packers, the Minnesota Vikings and the Houston Texans

kffl.com

 

[AcresHomesTexan]

One of them is Ohio University safety Michael Mitchell, who opened the eyes of representatives from roughly ten NFL clubs at his school's Pro Day in March by posting a pair of sub-4.5-second 40-yard dash times. The 6-foot-1, 221-pound defender pushed 21 reps during his bench press workout and posted a vertical jump of 37.5 inches.

The Green Bay Packers, Houston Texans, New Orleans Saints, Carolina Panthers and the Bengals, Browns, Colts, Lions, and Rams were among the teams in attendance. Mitchell told Scout.com that the Browns, Colts

http://profootball.scout.com/2/854864.html

 

[El Tejano]

That would be an ideal safety for us. I'm assuming he's a strong safety?

 

[AcresHomesTexan]

That would be an ideal safety for us. I'm assuming he's a strong safety?

Honestly, can't find anything on him from the ESPN or USAtoday data bases.

 

[bah007]

That would be an ideal safety for us. I'm assuming he's a strong safety?

This isn't meant for you personally because you are far from the first person to say something like this...

But how can a guy be an ideal player for us just based on workout numbers? I know a guy that is 6-1 235. He can jump high, run fast, and bench press a lot. But he sucks at football. He probably couldn't walk onto a high school varsity team and he is 22 years old.

Game tape trumps workout numbers 99% of the time. If he can't play, then I don't care how good of an athlete he is.

He has great measurables, but I want to see some tape before I make a judgment on him.

 

[bah007]

Honestly, can't find anything on him from the ESPN or USAtoday data bases.

Here is what I've found on Mitchell:

2008:
11 games - 62 tackles, 4.5 TFL, 0.5 sacks, 3 INTs, 5 PBU, 2 FF

2007:
11 games - 74 tackles, 4 TFL, 1.5 sacks, 2 INTs, 4 PBU, 1 FF

2006:
14 games - 65 tackles, 5 TFL, 1 sack, 2 INTs, 2 PBU, 1 FF

2005:
10 games - 22 tackles, 1 TFL, 2 PBU, 1 FF

 

[AcresHomesTexan]

Here is what I've found on Mitchell:

2008:
11 games - 62 tackles, 4.5 TFL, 0.5 sacks, 3 INTs, 5 PBU, 2 FF

2007:
11 games - 74 tackles, 4 TFL, 1.5 sacks, 2 INTs, 4 PBU, 1 FF

2006:
14 games - 65 tackles, 5 TFL, 1 sack, 2 INTs, 2 PBU, 1 FF

2005:
10 games - 22 tackles, 1 TFL, 2 PBU, 1 FF

I guess I should have said DRAFT data bases. Those numbers out of any context are no better than the atheltic profile out of context.

As for the athletic stuff, rememeber many teams (some believe the Texans are one of them) that if they get players who fit the profile, they can teach/train the player. My guess this a player you would see very late in the draft or as undrafted signing, considering draft info on him is not exact easy to find.

 

[bah007]

]I guess I should have said DRAFT data bases. Those numbers out of any context are no better than the atheltic profile out of context.[/B]

As for the athletic stuff, rememeber many teams (some believe the Texans are one of them) that if they get players who fit the profile, they can teach/train the player. My guess this a player you would see very late in the draft or as undrafted signing, considering draft info on him is not exact easy to find.

I know what you meant. I couldn't find any scouting reports or anything like that either so I just posted what I did find.