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Benson visiting Texans/signs with Bengals

GuerillaBlack said:
Speaking of Derrick Ward, how is that deal coming along?
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Reports say he was in Denver today.

Not sure where he goes after Denver. Philly, Houston, and Tampa Bay are said to be his scheduled stops.

I think he fits best at Tampa Bay. Denver just signed two veteran RBs, Philly has a sure RB1, and we have a sure RB1. The Bucs definitely need a RB1.

I bet Cedric will play for us for less than Ward will. I bet we end up signing Benson to a one-year deal, two at the most.

Remember last year when he tried to say that he was visiting the Texans, and Kubiak laughed it off in an interview and was like "Really? Wow. That's news to me..." Ouch.

And here we are. He was eating us up in the game at Reliant this year, and would have done more if they had put up a respectable passing game. There were some plays, specifically one at midfield that I remember Cedric just plowing over our defenders and I was like "Sheesh. This might get ugly."

Anyways, I'd rather have Ward. But I bet he wants the Tampa Bay gig.
 
TEXANRED said:
If you don't want your 13.50 I will give you my address so you can mail me yours.
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If I ever see it, I'll let you know so that you can give me your address. I will have to charge you S&H. If it comes to me in pennies, shipping it to you will cost you about $9.50. If you want it ASAP over night, that will be $36.90. Meanwhile, I'll be waiting for my government return with bated breath.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
If I ever see it, I'll let you know so that you can give me your address. I will have to charge you S&H. If it comes to me in pennies, shipping it to you will cost you about $9.50. If you want it ASAP over night, that will be $36.90. Meanwhile, I'll be waiting for my government return with bated breath.
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I only take money orders and I will meet you somewhere.:thisbig:
 
Fox said:
Count me in to the "as long as he's cheap" crowd. I think Cedric wants to come play here to be close to home. He showed enough last season to make me think he could help us, if he signs to a reasonable deal he's worth a shot.
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An article on the new ESPNmagazine is about Matt Birk of the Vikings.

It's about "The Hometown Discount" that is being used a lot by NFL teams. The theory is that a lot of NFL teams are able to lure players onto their roster for a lot less money than a player would normally take...due to the player having ties to the city or area where the team plays.

Birk is a homegrown Minnesotan. He says he knows he could get a few million more in other markets, but he has a wife and 3 or 4 small children who love it in Minnesota. To them, it's not worth uprooting and moving away.

Cedric would be back near Austin. Now, that's a hometown "discount" that might not be an overall good idea for Ced (with what's happened in the past). It might be a liability in the end.

That's where I'm at in my theory that Ced might play for us, for less, than what we think he would normally command in a contract at this stage. He played well enough for Cincy that I think it bumped him back into the picture for a lot of teams. Still, look at players off of teams like Detroit and Cincinatti: They are fleeing if they can. Don't you know Orlovsky was thrilled to get a deal with us?

Cedric might be in the same boat (hee-hee! i made another funny...).
 
TexansFanatic said:
Kick ass! Sign the guy! He's a bruiser and a one cut guy. Sign the guy!
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I would have like to see if we could swing a deal with the Raiders for Michael Bush........but I think that if Benson got back to Texas, he'd prabably have something to prove, and would play like a man possessed.
 
TEXANRED said:
Well thanks to Bush and the Patriot act I do know where you live........:whip:
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When enough time passes and we can look back I'll bet you Bush will go down in history as a better president than Obama. Of course the media would have you think Obama is our saviour. Time will tell.:twocents:

I'd be ok with signing Benson if he comes cheap enough.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
I would have like to see if we could swing a deal with the Raiders for Michael Bush........but I think that if Benson got back to Texas, he'd prabably have something to prove, and would play like a man possessed.
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I would love to see Bush in Houston, He isn't known but If he'd have been healthy his senior year Louisville coud have competed for a National Championship. I'm pretty sure he was drafted 100th overall, I was watchinng to see who'd get him late hoping we'd pick him up.....

I also agree that Benson being back in Texas would have to be considered, and I would love to see this guy compete in battle red..
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
I would have like to see if we could swing a deal with the Raiders for Michael Bush........but I think that if Benson got back to Texas, he'd prabably have something to prove, and would play like a man possessed.
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Agreed. I think not only would he be good for the Texans, I think the Texans would be good for him.
 
GP said:
Just the fact that he wasn't on an arrest blotter all year is proof that Cedric "gets it," whereas others don't.
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He was actually blottered twice in less than a year. But, I get it.

I've completely changed my mind on signing Benson. I do want the Texans to give him a contract, and bring him into camp. Then, Texan fans can see first hand how a college hero became an incredibly mediocre NFL running back.
 
Lucky said:
He was actually blottered twice in less than a year. But, I get it.

I've completely changed my mind on signing Benson. I do want the Texans to give him a contract, and bring him into camp. Then, Texan fans can see first hand how a college hero became an incredibly mediocre NFL running back.
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He's grown, IMO.

I tend to think UT players are a tad overrated in the jump to the NFL. And UT fans are a bit overly homer'ish in the hyping of their guys.

But I seriously think we could catch this guy on his way up. He got a little caught up in his own world while he was with the Bears. He's rebounded nicely with an utterly PATHETIC team in Cincinatti.

When the chips were down, he went to work in what I am sure was a team environment that could have brought out the worst in him.

Wanting us to sign him so that you can rag on those who genuinely would like to see if he's a good match for us? That's not who you are. Is it? If you're THAT against it, then root for us to not sign him.
 
I like the move. I think Benson is the right size and style back to compliment Slaton. Plus, if he ends up doing good with our ZBS, he is young enough so that we can be set with him and Slaton for many years.

I think everyone gets in trouble once or so in our lives. Just because I have drove drunk and got a DUI one time doesnt mean that im going to do it everytime.
 
hes not going to be cheap i seen the FA draft list of Running backs and he might be the second or third most Exp Back .... the cheaper ones might be the other 2 Cinncy running backs that are FA has well
 
texanfan2002114 said:
Are you being serious? Benson got better each year and proved he could be an every down back his senior year.

Att. Yards TD YPC
223 1053 12 4.7
305 1293 12 4.2
258 1360 21 5.3
326 1834 19 5.6

Totals
1112 5540 64 5.0

I hope the Texans sign him!!
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Did you watch the games? Benson was explosive into the line his freshman year. After that, he was tentative and could be tackled by arms. The statistics mean very little considering that Benson was benched for part of his freshman season because M.Brown is an *****... and, after that, he just ran through the gaping holes left from the overpursuit of Vince Young and the zone read offense.
 
I thought we were a little crazy for not signing him last season when he could be had on the cheap....hell, we had nothing to lose really. I hope they put something together and bring him into camp.
 
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go Texans.
 
I'd be happy with the move, the more bodies we find before the draft the better chance we have of drafting BPA
 
Vinny said:
I thought we were a little crazy for not signing him last season when he could be had on the cheap....hell, we had nothing to lose really. I hope they put something together and bring him into camp.
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I agree completely. I was so disgusted that they didn't give him a shot last year and I'm all over that thread advocating signing him. I have to say I'm glad he basically did what I said he would do then. I'm not Nostrodamus or anything but he really only had two choices. Get serious or get to work on his life after football. He obviously decided to get serious.

He needs to come to Houston, play behind Slaton and grasp this one-cut and go system where ordinary guys look like franchise backs and franchise backs look like Hall of Famer's. He stays here one or two years and we trade him for a 1 or a 2 because he looks like he's turned it around and running for big gains like everyone expected him to coming out of college. Benson is the perfect reclamation project because he's going to have "near" Chester Taylor/Michael Turner value in a year or two if he plays his cards right.
 
dalemurphy said:
Did you watch the games? Benson was explosive into the line his freshman year. After that, he was tentative and could be tackled by arms. The statistics mean very little considering that Benson was benched for part of his freshman season because M.Brown is an *****... and, after that, he just ran through the gaping holes left from the overpursuit of Vince Young and the zone read offense.
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Did you watch the games? Benson and Young were in the same backfield for one year, 2004, Benson's senior season. In 2003, during Young's redshirt freshman season he was shuttling with drop back passer Chance Mock.

I love this move. Bring him in, let him compete.
 
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I think it would be a good move to get him in here. Appearantly, with him telling everyone since last year that he was going to sign with The Texans, he wants to be here. I want players who want to be here.

Like someone said earlier, if Dayne can be good in this offense, so can Benson. Maybe have lesser expectations can be good for Benson.
 
As long as he comes in here knowing and respecting the fact that Slaton is the man, then let's give him a chance.
 
Hervoyel said:
I agree completely. I was so disgusted that they didn't give him a shot last year and I'm all over that thread advocating signing him. I have to say I'm glad he basically did what I said he would do then. I'm not Nostrodamus or anything but he really only had two choices. Get serious or get to work on his life after football. He obviously decided to get serious.

He needs to come to Houston, play behind Slaton and grasp this one-cut and go system where ordinary guys look like franchise backs and franchise backs look like Hall of Famer's. He stays here one or two years and we trade him for a 1 or a 2 because he looks like he's turned it around and running for big gains like everyone expected him to coming out of college. Benson is the perfect reclamation project because he's going to have "near" Chester Taylor/Michael Turner value in a year or two if he plays his cards right.
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If he turns out to be what many thought he should have been, I would hesistate to "cultivate" him solely for future trade/pick fodder. Today, the NFL dictates that truly successfull running teams have a tandem RB setup. RB's not uncommonly will go down short or long term.......and those teams that have only one effective RB can easily go down in flames after one unfortunate play. You don't have to look too far from home to see how that principal holds true.
 
Quick hitter...I like this. I was impressed what he did with a crappy situation last year. In fact in some of the games I saw he was really tearing it up but lost carries and some stats because they had to throw because they fell behind. I think if he comes in with the right attitude he can do well backing up and playing.
 
I was listening to 610 this morning, and McClain was on. They all speculated that since the Bangles want him to return, as the starter, that this could possibly be nothing more than a leverage trip.

I surely hope that is not the case, as I would love to see him backing up Slaton.
 
Just an fyi... Eugene Parker is Benson's agent, Purdue alum. Not stretching it to say this is two Purdue chums coming to the table to talk.
 
Texans Pride said:
I was listening to 610 this morning, and McClain was on. They all speculated that since the Bangles want him to return, as the starter, that this could possibly be nothing more than a leverage trip.

I surely hope that is not the case, as I would love to see him backing up Slaton.
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Could be. But think about Ced Benson. He's a Texas guy. The Texans are a team on the rise. Cincinnati? Not so much.
 
TexansFanatic said:
Could be. But think about Ced Benson. He's a Texas guy. The Texans are a team on the rise. Cincinnati? Not so much.
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Cedric still lives in Austin, his girlfriend resides in Houston. He wanted to play for the Texans last year.
But, as Texans Pride indicated, this could be nothing more than a leverage trip for him. I don't know, we'll see. I for one would love to see him in a Texans uni.
 
TEXANS84 said:
Cedric still lives in Austin, his girlfriend resides in Houston. He wanted to play for the Texans last year.
But, as Texans Pride indicated, this could be nothing more than a leverage trip for him. I don't know, we'll see. I for one would love to see him in a Texans uni.
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But wanting to play for the Texans last year was before he had a very impressive year in Cinci and basically redeemed himself, atleast on the field of play. And he knows he'd be the #2 guy here with our young star running back, while he's the starter, "the guy" in Cinci. Can't imagine why he'd pass up a starting job in Cinci (or another city), to play backup here ?
 
nunusguy said:
But wanting to play for the Texans last year was before he had a very impressive year in Cinci and basically redeemed himself, atleast on the field of play. And he knows he'd be the #2 guy here with our young star running back, while he's the starter, "the guy" in Cinci. Can't imagine why he'd pass up a starting job in Cinci (or another city), to play backup here ?
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Benson will know that he would start out in camp as the #2 guy.

However, Slaton is not guaranteed the starting job for any extended period of time any more than Ahman Green, Wali Lundy, Dominick Williams or Jonathan Wells were in their time with the Texans. Steve Slaton played well last year, but he was hardly the second coming of Earl Campbell. Slaton will come in as the starter, but if he can't play for some reason and Benson were to come in and perform up to the expectations that everyone had of him when he was drafted fourth overall by the Bears in 2005, then Benson would probably become the starter.

I expect that the coaches will tell Benson that he will come into camp #2 on the depth chart, but that that there will be open competition for every position on the team, except for QB. They will tell him that he can win the Texan's starting RB job by clearly establishing himself as the best running back on the team. And they will mean it.
 
MojoMan said:
I expect that the coaches will tell Benson that he will come into camp #2 on the depth chart, but that that there will be open competition for every position on the team, except for QB. They will tell him that he can win the Texan's starting RB job by clearly establishing himself as the best running back on the team. And they will mean it.
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Nothing wrong with having two RBs that can share the load and extend the shelf life for both of them.
 
Starting RB is a relative term.
Does it mean more to be out there for the first snap or the majority of the snaps during a game?

At the end of it all it comes down to being able to put up numbers, win rings and getting paid.

The better the "backup" RB is, the more snaps he will see.
 
Thorn said:
Nothing wrong with having two RBs that can share the load and extend the shelf life for both of them.
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Absolutely.

Actually, I hope the Texans get Benson and draft another good RB in the fourth or fifth round who the Texans think has the potential to be a starter. Three backs are even better than two, especially if all three of them can play.
 
I'm one that thinks stats are only one part of the story. How a player fits on this team, how he will contribute, how his strengths fit in and how his weaknesses are masked are the important issues for me. I havn't seen Benson play much if at all in the pros, especially last year on the Bengals.

How did he look? What are his strengths/weaknesses? Is he quick to the hole and decisive?

It doesn't look like a 3.5 yard average and as many fumbles as TDs (2) is "resurrecting his career".
 
MojoMan said:
Absolutely.

Actually, I hope the Texans get Benson and draft another good RB in the fourth or fifth round who the Texans think has the potential to be a starter. Three backs are even better than two, especially if all three of them can play.
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Slaton, Benson + Gartrell Johnson :)
Leach, Sapp

I wouldn't be against that.
 
MojoMan said:
Benson will know that he would start out in camp as the #2 guy.

However, Slaton is not guaranteed the starting job for any extended period of time any more than Ahman Green, Wali Lundy, Dominick Williams or Jonathan Wells were in their time with the Texans. Steve Slaton played well last year, but he was hardly the second coming of Earl Campbell. Slaton will come in as the starter, but if he can't play for some reason and Benson were to come in and perform up to the expectations that everyone had of him when he was drafted fourth overall by the Bears in 2005, then Benson would probably become the starter.

I expect that the coaches will tell Benson that he will come into camp #2 on the depth chart, but that that there will be open competition for every position on the team, except for QB. They will tell him that he can win the Texan's starting RB job by clearly establishing himself as the best running back on the team. And they will mean it.
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I would to some extent conceed your argument about Slayton not having the kind of guarantee that say, Matt Schaub without question has. Of course its all a function of the respective investment the Texans have in each player.
But that doesn't apply to just QBs IMO. Think back to the situation with Jason Babin or even just last year in another fisrt-rounder who was "given" the starting job based mostley on how much the team had in him, financially speaking.
 
nunusguy said:
I would to some extent conceed your argument about Slayton not having the kind of guarantee that say, Matt Schaub without question has. Of course its all a function of the respective investment the Texans in each player.
But that doesn't apply to just QBs IMO. Think back to the situation with Jason Babin or even just last year in another fisrt-rounder who was "given" the starting job based mostley on how much the team had in him, financially speaking.
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Fair enough.

But if the Texans sign Benson, Benson will probably be getting paid significantly more money than Slaton. So how does that figure into the calculation of playing time?

Even though Benson will not be given the starting job outright, you know that the coaches will want to see a payoff of the investment the team is making in Benson.
 
nunusguy said:
I would to some extent conceed your argument about Slayton not having the kind of guarantee that say, Matt Schaub without question has. Of course its all a function of the respective investment the Texans have in each player.
But that doesn't apply to just QBs IMO. Think back to the situation with Jason Babin or even just last year in another fisrt-rounder who was "given" the starting job based mostley on how much the team had in him, financially speaking.
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AAAAAAAAAAAH! IT'S SLATON! S-L-A-T-O-N!!!!!!

In regards to your post...Slaton was a third round pick, so he's not being handed the starting job because of financial obligation or where he was drafted.
 
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