Texan_Bill
Hall of Fame
*ahem* Aren't we still paying for those renovations? LWPO! (Laughing While Pissed Off)
YES!!! Thus, much of the lingering animosity....
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YES!!! Thus, much of the lingering animosity....
leebigeztx
Keep it Movin!
I still don't see the anger people have for nashville or bud. We shoud blame the former mayor lanier. He took a business prop and mde it personal. The old soul singer had a song, "its cheaper to keep her." I can ask anyone with any sense, if we had to give bud a 350m stadium vs a 350m stadium plus 600m franchise fee. which do u want? Not only that, if La wouldn't have fumbled, houston wouldn't even have a team now. Top that off, they gave Drayton, te most undeserving owner in houston a stadium 1st. If it would have been put up for a vote, I guesing the oilers would stil be in houston.
Honoring Earl 34
Something Witty !
Richard Justice writes for The Chronicle . He wrote an article on how Alex Gibbs yelled at his players to much . Texan Chick questioned him on the article ( HOF OL coach vs sports writer ) and the guy started insulting her .
Texan_Bill
Hall of Fame
Fixed for accuracy.....
Mr teX
Hall of Fame
we only had to pay what we did for the texans b/c that turd left......... direct cause & effect. & LA as in the city doesn't want a team; that much is obvious. The NFL just wants so badly to put one there b/c it's a top TV market. Bud just wanted to leave all along... I think TB mentioned his failed attempt in J-ville years before. No consideration of the fans & city's connection to the team, the history that franchise developed here. As far as i'm concerned, the only thing worse in terms of franchise's switching cities is the Baltimore colts packing up in the middle of the night going to Indy. Only concern he had was of his pocket book. Thinking about that whole ordeal just makes me want to snatch that toupe off his dome & stuff it down his throat....
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Honoring Earl 34
Something Witty !
You know this storm and all has my memory clouded .
Brando
Hall of Fame
I want to see the Texans hit Albert Haynesworth hard, I mean knock the living **** out of him. He likes to play dirty so we should give him some of his own medicine. I want to see grass stains on his helmet and jersey.
I'm ready for the game! I hope the Texans control the line of scrimmage.........
I'm ready for the game! I hope the Texans control the line of scrimmage.........
Mr teX
Hall of Fame
I want to see the Texans hit Albert Haynesworth hard, I mean knock the living **** out of him. He likes to play dirty so we should give him some of his own medicine. I want to see grass stains on his helmet and jersey.
I'm ready for the game! I hope the Texans control the line of scrimmage.........
not likely...
Texan_Bill
Hall of Fame
Understood... Just doing my neighborly part to help pick you up.
Honoring Earl 34
Something Witty !
I want to see the Texans hit Albert Haynesworth hard, I mean knock the living **** out of him. He likes to play dirty so we should give him some of his own medicine. I want to see grass stains on his helmet and jersey.
I'm ready for the game! I hope the Texans control the line of scrimmage.........
Fat Albert had a concusion in week one so how about a false start on the first play ... hmmm .... it may be dirty but soooooooooooo .
Do we have a guard that fires out hard enough to ring someone's bell ?
Blazing Arrow
Work'n da grill
I want to see the Texans hit Albert Haynesworth hard, I mean knock the living **** out of him. He likes to play dirty so we should give him some of his own medicine. I want to see grass stains on his helmet and jersey.
I'm ready for the game! I hope the Texans control the line of scrimmage.........
Other then the Head stomp incedent what has be done as a dirty play?
Texan_Bill
Hall of Fame
Kicked his Hartwig in the chest and thrown MJD to the ground for which he was penalized and fined for.....
Texecutioner
Hall of Fame
Kicked another team ate in the chest at practice during a drill. You must have missed that one.
What are you waiting for Albert to do, shank a guy in the trenches to finally call him dirty? After he stomped on a guy's head during a game, the verdict on Albert was out. No deliberation, no consulting, no discussion. He is dirty as hell.
What are you waiting for Albert to do, shank a guy in the trenches to finally call him dirty? After he stomped on a guy's head during a game, the verdict on Albert was out. No deliberation, no consulting, no discussion. He is dirty as hell.
Brando
Hall of Fame
Thanks Bill
He's a good player but I don't like him and I can only hope the Texans punch him in the mouth.
Blazing Arrow
Work'n da grill
Hartwig was in practice and to his own teammate.
MJD was very questionable and the entire bench for the Titans were calling fowl when the flag was thrown.
From the statement I quoted it seems as if he has a habitual pattern of fines and penalties for his play which is not accurate.
I personally have been pretty vocal about AH's issues but allot of them seem to boil to a head when the stomp happened. He was out of line and I really think he thought his career was on the line. He did what was necessary to grow up and mature which I don't think anyone can fault him on. We are not 2 years past that incident and while he still deserves heat for it I do not think it defines who he is as a player.
Now if you called him a lazy slug who sits out plays and fakes injury because he needs a breather ... well I cannot really argue that one.
Blazing Arrow
Work'n da grill
I actually told TB who the other player was in practice ... so yeah I recall it well.
No I am not waiting for him to do that but if he was hacking a guy at the knee or hitting a QB late the fines would increase. The guy was in the wrong, he admits that. He went to anger management classes, did not fight the fine or the suspension. He took it like a man and fesses up to his mistake and on top of that did his time. In the end how much more can he do to prove he is not that same player anymore? In your eyes he is dirty because of one incident in 5 seasons of play. About time to forgive and see what he has to offer after rehab.
kcdoubleeagle
Waterboy
I am afraid that we are playing the best team in the league this weekend.........now that the WORST QB TO EVER PLAY IN THE NFL....is not starting they are almost unstoppable....I hate to say it...but I am afraid our o-line is going to get their teeth smashed in. I even hate to say this...but I truly believe if they stay healthy they will win the Superbowl.
HOU-TEX
Ah, Football!
FYI, It sounds like TJ will be out of Sundays game. It also appears Okam will be activated.
http://www.houstontexans.com/news/Story.asp?story_id=4651
http://www.houstontexans.com/news/Story.asp?story_id=4651
HJam72
Hall of Fame
Meh, it's a problem, but they're not THAT good.
Blazing Arrow
Work'n da grill
If it helps our best WR will be out for the game. I would tell you his name but no one would know who he is.
Bipolar The Titan
cow pattie chunkin' champ
This is just the post I've been looking for. I believe a sincere thank you is in order.
I appreciate that. I'm really am not one to favor stupid, petty insults either. Speaking of past really isn't completely useless though. It's all a matter of how it's being done. I know that I've learned things posting here. So there is some measure of profit in it.Run the ball. Run the ball. Run the ball. You absolutely must be able to run the ball. Being able to convert short yardage through the air is a good key but the whole pass defense scheme of the Titans begins with pressuring the qb. Run the ball until you see an opening to take a shot. Absolutely must run effectively right at Albert and right over Tulloch. Pass enough to keep them honest. Don't throw at Cortland Finnegan. Pick on Harper.
I think I answered this in my previous answer but to clarify... they may have success passing if they can establish the run early. If they want to pass first without a seriously awesome qb, o-line, and wr set... eh... good luck with that. Their chances begin with the run what they do in that way should, at least in my opinion, dictate what they can do through the air.
That's a bit of an unknown to me. I don't know how poor the db's are and I'm not sure what kind of wr set my team has now since the team has essentially become Kerry Collins'. (that is if last week vs. Cinci is any indication) I do know that I like my chances a lot better with out that crumby Longhorn under center. He should improve in time. I'm just thankful we've got Collins. I really had no idea he still "had it". (I concede that's debatable)
no. I expect AJ to go off. The guy wants to play us bad. He's a top flight receiver and he's bound to catch a deep ball or two... or five. He will probably be defensed quite well by Finnegan and I have a lot of confidence in Hope and Griffin as safeties. It's a key match-up for sure. I expect him to get his 100 yards with relative ease. He should catch at least one td pass. Finnegan might even pick the quarterback... especially if M.S. is replaced S.R. I think it will be a score card decision on AJ vs. TEN db's though. Very close. I don't look for Finnegan or Johnson to be totally dominate.
Scaife isn't that bad. Have you some great OLB that will have his way or something? Mario? Crumpler is a bit of a mystery to me. I expected him to make some noise receiving but he does block very well. He may help spring Burner Johnson on the sweep... I'm not really sure why his receiving production hasn't materialized. Maybe Sunday will be his coming out party.
(7-9) for the simple fact that they haven't ever done anything to make me think otherwise. Entering week 3 winless doesn't help... but you never know... look at the Saints... their town and stadium was tore up by a hurricane and they nearly went to the Super Bowl. Anything can happen. I do think that Jacksonville is going to be in the $#!tter after it is all said and done so for what it's worth I see the Texans with a third place finish and possibly two wins over the Jags. I see the Colts as a 5th seed. I really feel like Tennessee has got it together this year. Tennessee could just as easily be that 5th seed.
kiwitexansfan
Hall of Fame
If running the ball is the key to beating the Titans, I don't give us much hope. I truly believe we can move the ball through the air on anyone, our pass blocking is solid and our QB and WR are above average. Where it breaks down is that with no ground game, opponents can just pin their ears back and go after an admittedly fragile Schaub.
I look forward to seeing Kearse/VDB vs Winston and Brown in pass protection, I like our young tackles and the Titans bookends should be a good litmus test.
I look forward to seeing Kearse/VDB vs Winston and Brown in pass protection, I like our young tackles and the Titans bookends should be a good litmus test.
CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
Collins is not a TD machine.
Career TD------173/Int............172 % compl----55.6/QB rate.......73.5
Tacks career:
2006 TD------1 /Int............6 % compl----46.7/QB rate.......42.3
2007 TD------0 /Int............0 % compl----61.0/QB rate.......79.9
2008 TD------1 /Int............0 % compl----69.6/QB rate.......109.5
Again, if our running game can't get going and no QB pressure is had, look for Collins to plink and plunk us to death.
Career TD------173/Int............172 % compl----55.6/QB rate.......73.5
Tacks career:
2006 TD------1 /Int............6 % compl----46.7/QB rate.......42.3
2007 TD------0 /Int............0 % compl----61.0/QB rate.......79.9
2008 TD------1 /Int............0 % compl----69.6/QB rate.......109.5
Again, if our running game can't get going and no QB pressure is had, look for Collins to plink and plunk us to death.
Vinny
shiny happy fan
The Titans are second in the NFL against the run and 7th vs the pass...so they will be tough to move the ball on period - especially if we can't run the ball and are always in 2nd and 3rd and long all day.
This is just the post I've been looking for. I believe a sincere thank you is in order.
Not here to throw smack at you dude. But from what I have seen with in this thread you did your part of throwing around petty insults. If your going to do it at least own up to it.
I do believe it was Blazing Arrow that turned this thread on it's head anyway. He was good up until post #41. Then it was like the light went on, or was it off, upstairs.
Anyway, hopefully the Texans pull this one out. Although I have a feeling the D is going to continue getting schooled until DC Smith can afford to buy a clue or 10.
New_Texans
Rookie
CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
ooo Ooooo, ill guess
Gage?
Wade?
I would suspect that no one has heard of Brandon Jones...........and hopefully following the game, he will remain deep in anonimity.
New_Texans
Rookie
Texans_Chick
Utopian Dreamer
That plus if the Titans can run all day could make this ugly.
The Texans have to figure some stuff out on offense. The Titans D is tough on a lot of teams and seem to have the Texans' number. (except in the 4th Q of that weirdo game).
Texecutioner
Hall of Fame
This is just the post I've been looking for. I believe a sincere thank you is in order.
Run the ball. Run the ball. Run the ball. You absolutely must be able to run the ball. Being able to convert short yardage through the air is a good key but the whole pass defense scheme of the Titans begins with pressuring the qb. Run the ball until you see an opening to take a shot. Absolutely must run effectively right at Albert and right over Tulloch. Pass enough to keep them honest. Don't throw at Cortland Finnegan. Pick on Harper.
I think I answered this in my previous answer but to clarify... they may have success passing if they can establish the run early. If they want to pass first without a seriously awesome qb, o-line, and wr set... eh... good luck with that. Their chances begin with the run what they do in that way should, at least in my opinion, dictate what they can do through the air.
That's a bit of an unknown to me. I don't know how poor the db's are and I'm not sure what kind of wr set my team has now since the team has essentially become Kerry Collins'. (that is if last week vs. Cinci is any indication) I do know that I like my chances a lot better with out that crumby Longhorn under center. He should improve in time. I'm just thankful we've got Collins. I really had no idea he still "had it". (I concede that's debatable)
no. I expect AJ to go off. The guy wants to play us bad. He's a top flight receiver and he's bound to catch a deep ball or two... or five. He will probably be defensed quite well by Finnegan and I have a lot of confidence in Hope and Griffin as safeties. It's a key match-up for sure. I expect him to get his 100 yards with relative ease. He should catch at least one td pass. Finnegan might even pick the quarterback... especially if M.S. is replaced S.R. I think it will be a score card decision on AJ vs. TEN db's though. Very close. I don't look for Finnegan or Johnson to be totally dominate.
Scaife isn't that bad. Have you some great OLB that will have his way or something? Mario? Crumpler is a bit of a mystery to me. I expected him to make some noise receiving but he does block very well. He may help spring Burner Johnson on the sweep... I'm not really sure why his receiving production hasn't materialized. Maybe Sunday will be his coming out party.
(7-9) for the simple fact that they haven't ever done anything to make me think otherwise. Entering week 3 winless doesn't help... but you never know... look at the Saints... their town and stadium was tore up by a hurricane and they nearly went to the Super Bowl. Anything can happen. I do think that Jacksonville is going to be in the $#!tter after it is all said and done so for what it's worth I see the Texans with a third place finish and possibly two wins over the Jags. I see the Colts as a 5th seed. I really feel like Tennessee has got it together this year. Tennessee could just as easily be that 5th seed.
Well not much that I can really argue with here. You say that we need to run the ball, well that is always the game plan of Kubiak but we don't have good RB's to run the ball or a great O line to open up the holes. Plus, the Titans have the best run stopper in the league, so I'm not to confident about being able to run the ball against the Titans.
I'd rather see the Texans try and work a lot of short slant passes and screens to run the ball. That always seems to be affective against the blitz, and also when you're playing a good run stopping team. It also helps to set up the actual run.
It should be interesting to see the battle of AJ and the secondary. Hopefully Walter can make some plays as well. He's not going to out speed any one, but if he can run some quick routes when the Titans D is blitzing I think he can make some plays.
How do the Titans play against TE's? I expect to see Daniels get a lot of looks.
I always look forward to watching Michael Griffin though. He's really exciting to watch. I just hope he isn't popping Daniels to much from behind when they throw to Daniels up the middle.
What I'm really worried about is Chris Johnson making plays on us. The guy is a freaking stud speedy scat back that was a GREAT pick. Personally I think the Texans should have Demeco watching this guy's every move, since Demeco is so fast and athletic. Someone needs to keep an eye on Johnson on every play, because the Titans don't really have nothing else on offense. Who better than our most athletic LB to handle the job.
leebigeztx
Keep it Movin!
I would like to see the texans come out in 3wr,1te,1 rb shotgun. Start the game with quick passes to set up 2nd and 4,3rd and 2. Maybe coming out regular, but flexing daniels out opposite of johnson and walters to loosen the defense up. If they think theyre going to line up and run the ball between the tackles or attack with stretch zone runs, they will be sadly mistaken.
Bipolar The Titan
cow pattie chunkin' champ
feel free to post or send me some links via/pm as to where... my posting hasn't even approached being offensive especially in light of what I was responding to. For what it's worth this forum is a kindergarten in terms of gentleness as compared to that of other teams such as the Steelers, Redskins or Raiders... so despite what has been said by anyone on either side of the the divide this thread is more akin to a pillow fight than say... The Battle of Antietam.
To term something "petty insult" is rather harsh. I don't believe that I made even one personal attack. Anything I ever said that was negative in nature regarded a player or an instance of past team failure. For what it's worth I don't believe that I've been the victim of "petty insults" either. No one called me a straight to my face a white trash, inbred hillbilly. There was some regional smack jokes tossed around... funny thing is they were directed more at Arrow's posts than mine... I actually live in a wooded area in the hills of Tennessee and if I am not mistaken he lives in Orange County, California... so go figure.
Also, I'd like to emphasize if not clarify one thing to you. You highlighted, bolded, rather my statement that read "I'm really am not one to favor stupid, petty insults either." All that means is that I am not looking for a fight. I do not favor it, but, if you are feeling froggy, jump... Also, I don't fight dirty... I didn't go after anyone's heritage... If I want to get ugly with a fanbase I can just hop over to the Jacksonville Official MB and get all I want and then some. (I seldom bother with that crowd) However, that board can not offer me an intellectual dialog about NFL football. At least I just haven't enough patience... I really think it's impossible... if MuddMonster TT has managed (that's Overalls btw) I'd love to hear about it Tim, but... honestly, I should be commending TexansTalk as a forum for being warm hosts for the most part. It's obvious to me when I am dealing with a kid that's just barely old enough to buy beer and when I am dealing with someone in middle age... I act accordingly. Being bipolar I am prone to shift in mood so my personality is very reflective. Although I do try to do unto others as I would have done unto me I often times do fall into the trap of doing unto others as was done unto me. If you care to protract this any further and post the links contained in the post numbers and copy and paste offensive remarks below the link I will be more than glad to apologize for anything that you can convince me is offensive, petty, and/or insulting. I will own up to anything you show me. The ball is in your court on that one friend.
I think that it's entirely possible for the Texans to pull it out. It's a division game of familiar foes. I am actually unsure of how wide the talent gap is or even if it exists at all. I base that on our weakness in the passing game and my relative unfamiliarity with the Texans. Although I am high on Collins and have a lot of hope for him the whole thing could crumple. Collins isn't tested... but if he plays as well or better than last week and the wr's pick it up my confidence will grow. I am extremely optimistic. It's just that I am open to the idea of it disintegrating.
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Bipolar The Titan
cow pattie chunkin' champ
Bipolar The Titan
cow pattie chunkin' champ
One of the Titans biggest strengths is stopping the run. I think it's important to attack a team's strengths initially. Then the weaknesses can be exploited. Your hope is stopping our run. The Titans passing shouldn't be that hard to stop. Your db's will end up getting a pick off a ball a Titan should have caught. I mean one will pop up after hitting Gage or someone in the shoulder pad, or "bounce" off someone's hands. The Titans have been lucky with the interceptions so far... Well, Collins has been... not so much Young. The possibility of a turnover should inspire hope.
Bipolar The Titan
cow pattie chunkin' champ
I don't think that will work against our corners. Finnegan is an attack dog and Harper is a good tackler. I suppose something out of a bunch formation would be good... but I don't know... The kind of defense that Tennessee plays can only really be tamed by smash mouth running with an effective back or dynamic down field passing. Screens, gimmicks and gadgets won't hold up. Too many plays will go for minimal gain... that's just my opinion.
I agree.
Bulluck is real good in coverage. The defense on a whole is top 5 so I guess it would stand to reason that they play against TE's well. I haven't really thought about it before.
I think "Griff" was a solid pick from an outstanding program. I think he's going to grow into a pro bowler eventually. Finnegan is on pace to make a pro bowl one day. Hope isn't a slouch and Harper isn't exactly a pushover. I think our secondary is tight.
I want to see "Burner" Johnson in the slot. As for the rest of the offense... you might not think Len"whale" is anything special but 'ole "Moby Dick" is a freight train once he gets rolling. He is a punisher. I don't think he's special like LaDainian Tomlinson but he's an Eddie George type of guy in terms of running the ball consistently in short yardage and running hard and often. He isn't a complete back like Eddie though. His hands seem to be coated with fried chicken grease because it seems to me that he can't catch a cold... but that may improve by working with Collins.
The Vince Young situation seems to me to be a huge instance of addition by subtraction... the offense could become a real passing threat under Collins' leadership. I stress leadership... I think the guy is working harder than Vince was and that he's just more accurate, period. So, I'm kinda banking on the wr's to pick it up majorly. In other words I'm putting passing game troubles on Vince... is it fair? I don't know. Tennessee kicked the dogshit out of Cincinnati. I seriously doubt Vince would have been as effective as Collins was in those windy conditions. I was very proud of Collins last week.
CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
Albert Einstein once said that the definition of insanity was repeating the same behavior over and over while expecting different results. Well, run, run, run has unfortunately been what the Texans in the past have made their resounding theme. It has consistently resulted in 4 plays of run-run-pass-punt. The run mentality has more so than not led to the RB having his nose stuffed up our centers butt, with no time to visualize the field and find the hole (except the centers ahole)........and all of this usually occurring around the LOS. With this approach we have been forced to pass the ball at the end of the game to try to catch up. And as you know, too many forced passes=a strong recipe for interceptions. This run at all cost disease has almost destroyed this team. What is the cure?.....................Im not sure that at this point anyone has the definitive answer. But what I do know is that the doctor cannot continue to feed a medicine to a dying patient....................a medicine that doesnt work.
Blazing Arrow
Work'n da grill
The answer is pretty easy. You need a quality RB who can make space when there is none. Your current O does not run a West Coast enough style to make Ds respect your pass enough to cover for it. Carr has put this stigma on your team that if you put enough pressure on the QB you will get to him, and with the added pressure you get a RB who has to make the first guy miss 9 out of 10 times even before starting down field.
Guys like Dayne, Green, Brown ... you are never going to compete. Almost every playoff team has a solid RB. For some it is all they have.
CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
I don't remember who said this, though it goes something like this: a wise person does at once, what a fool does at last. Both do the same thing; only at different times. The Texans, at least to this point in time, have been playing the hapless fool.
Honoring Earl 34
Something Witty !
I have an Albert Haynesworth voodoo doll that I'm about to run over with my lawnmower .
spurstexanstros
Texans Rising
Exactly, I dont recall calling anyone white trash either. Titans fans are good at lobbing bombs and then overreacting when someone takes offense to it. As i have said my company line of smack is gonna be.
TheTitans organization is not as good as the Texans.
Some of the Titans lack moral turpitude.
Titans fans make my stomach feel queasy.
Texans rule Titans drool etc etc.....
Im sure that will offend someone here.
spurstexanstros
Texans Rising
Anyways can we freaking play the game already....
I want to hear from those affected by Ike.... What does this game mean to you on the overall scheme of things?
I want to hear from those affected by Ike.... What does this game mean to you on the overall scheme of things?
GP
Go Texans!
I can't bold portions of this post because it is ALL so important, and true.
Last season, Kubiak ended the year by saying (and I try to quote it as well as I can)..."You know, I think we just might be a good enough passing team to play as a passing team that sets up the run..."
And then he was quoted as saying that he might start carrying THREE QBs on the active roster, (again, trying to quote it as accurately as I can): "I don't want to go through that again...I know that we usually carry 2, but I am starting to think seriously about carrying a third QB..."
So here we have Kubiak, out-and-out letting people know that he thinks we have a pretty good passing game, that it might be good enough to pas a lot and let the run be a supplement. He even says he thinks he needs to carry an extra QB, which DUH! wouldn't be too bad of an idea.
Yet, here we are: Trying to act like Gibbs has installed this beautiful running attack that is going to start clicking immediately.
We need to get AJ, Walter, Davis, Anderson, and Jones on the field at the same time, or at least a 4-WR set and Daniels at TE, and pas, pass, pass, pass, pass, pass until we are stopped. This loosens the LBs up and they are a bit split between looking for the slants and crossing routes OR looking for the run out of the backfield that might be coming at some point.
We do NOT have a running game that can open up the pass. And the quicker Kubiak absorbs it (FULLY) the better.
spurstexanstros
Texans Rising
Who is being racist?
I know how hard you are trying to offend people while acting innocent of such devious design, so let me give you some help:
Saying someone lacks moral turpitude isn't an insult.
tur·pi·tude [tur-pi-tood, -tyood]
noun
1.
vile, shameful, or base character; depravity.
2.
a vile or depraved act.
www.dictionary.com - Try it sometime.
spurstexanstros
Texans Rising
no I am not trying to offend anyone, but it feels like you can only say canned stuff like that in order not to offend anyone. It seems like we have to bend over and just let opposing fans run over us.
spurstexanstros
Texans Rising
Trust me I am not... I am to the point ... I just want the game to be over with. I have never said I was offended. I just question why come here to insult our team?