2009 ACL - surgery
2013 grade 1 LCL, not cleared to play, returned and ended up torn LCL & ACL - surgery described as "complete knee reconstruction."
Yep,
Just pointing out the fate of guys that have had 2 ACL's, like Bradford/Griffin etc...
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2009 ACL - surgery
2013 grade 1 LCL, not cleared to play, returned and ended up torn LCL & ACL - surgery described as "complete knee reconstruction."
Yep,
Just pointing out the fate of guys that have had 2 ACL's, like Bradford/Griffin etc...
Except it's not 2 simple ACLs. You're implied analogy to Watson is a fail.
He did have 2 ACL's.
I'm just pointing out that the odds of DW4 coming back and people expecting him to play at the same level and if he does staying healthy might be a little unrealistic.
If you were really trying to do that you wouldn't act like the injuries are at all the same. They aren't. Also both of RGIII's injuries were to his right knee. Watson has one on each side. Their situations are not at all the same.
But Bradford's situation is the same.
No it is not. Again, same knee and he also had meniscus tears, floating particles and bone spurs.
Jeff Fisher is looking for a job. Haha thoughts:
HELL NO!!!!
6 winning seasons out of 22.
Just as a OC.
Just as a OC.
The real question is whether the Browns, Bears, Colts, or any other team could be eyeing Fisher. The success of the Rams in his absence — and the thriving of three former Fisher quarterbacks (Jared Goff, Case Keenum, and at least for one week Nick Foles) — will make it a much harder sell. Balancing that out is the experience factor, along with a relationship with the league office that could put his team in position to win a few of the “jump balls” that the franchise currently can’t quite reach.
2009 ACL - surgery
2013 grade 1 LCL, not cleared to play, returned and ended up torn LCL & ACL - surgery described as "complete knee reconstruction."
He then suffered a high ankle tear and then concussion (not the 1st) to open the door for Cousins.
Arlington I was joking brother and that's it.Literally, Fisher is consider an offensive detriment.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...-is-eyeing-several-teams-are-they-eyeing-him/
and at least from that article, the Texans are not a team he is being rumored to.
Arlington I was joking brother and that's it.
Fisher is nowhere close to being on our radar as well.
Jeff fisher could take a shitt team and get them to 7-9.
On the flip side, he can take a playoff caliber team and get them to only 7-9
At least he's consistent lol
I was just about to post this. You beat me to it. I think he would be a great hire to run the "system" OB wants ran and is a proven OC and teacher.Charlie Weis.
Weis installed the E-P offense in NE and won three SBs doing it
He won his first SB ring under Parcells but I give Parcells credit for that one since Weis had basically just got there.
before y'all start yelling, I don't want him as HC, just to run the offense.
I think BO'b did some good in regards to the use of DW4 but not a lot. Each week that Case Keenum and Jared Goff play well under new coaches I have to feel that their struggles were in regards to their head coaches. To me it could easily be said that Coach BO'b and Jeff Fisher are kindred spirits in regards to wasting away Qb talent.The reality of this situation screams that Watson would've made Godfrey look competent.
I give BO'b credit for going ahead and making adjustments with DW4 however I think BO'b had a more pure pocket passer in mind as a preference. There is no way in a fair battle for the starting job that Savage beats out DW4. DW4 was a rookie and it seems that that played a role in him not getting a fair shot at starting the season.This is all cockimamy. You didn't know anything...this is what you assume b/c Savage got the starting nod & b/c he kept Savage around....but when you sit back and objectively look at it, you see why he kept him around and why he got the nod over Watson initially. Furthermore For BoB..or any offense to work really, it needs a stud at the helm. That has been borne out over decades of football with all different kinds of HC's and schemes. I doubt there was any "reinventing" as you say and i'm willing to bet that alot of the plays BoB ran with Watson have always been there, he just didn't have the guy at the helm with the right mindset and degree of fortitude to execute.
I give BO'b credit for going ahead and making adjustments with DW4 however I think BO'b had a more pure pocket passer in mind as a preference. There is no way in a fair battle for the starting job that Savage beats out DW4. DW4 was a rookie and it seems that that played a role in him not getting a fair shot at starting the season.
Jeff Fisher is looking for a job. Haha thoughts:
Savage was clearly the better QB in preseason. DW4 looked bad. IMO, DW4 is at his best when the games are real and he can let his raw athleticism take over in an uncontrolled environment, with no red jerseys to protect him. Savage is the complete opposite. He apparrantly thrives with red jerseys and limited exposure in preseason games, where 1st team players are just going through the motions.Well of course it did. But all HC's prefer pure pocket passers to guys who run around inviting defenders to hit them even more. 32 out of 32 HC's don't even allow their qb's to be hit in practice for god sakes. OB is no different in that regard.
Savage was clearly the better QB in preseason. DW4 looked bad. IMO, DW4 is at his best when the games are real and he can let his raw athleticism take over in an uncontrolled environment, with no red jerseys to protect him. Savage is the complete opposite. He apparrantly thrives with red jerseys and limited exposure in preseason games, where 1st team players are just going through the motions.
I don't agree. Plenty of pure pocket passers suffer major injuries. The fact is that there have not been many guys in NFL history who were known for their escape abilities and for making things happen outside the pocket, but there have been some notable ones. There is precedent for those type Qb's making their teams better. Especially teams with weak O-lines. .Well of course it did. But all HC's prefer pure pocket passers to guys who run around inviting defenders to hit them even more. 32 out of 32 HC's don't even allow their qb's to be hit in practice for god sakes. OB is no different in that regard.
Watson looked comparable while trying to be the good little stay in the pocket and run "the system" without having 1st team attention QB in preseason.
Of course when they threw out OBs playbook and started calling plays to compliment the strength of Watson it was no comparison. Savage shouldn’t even be in the same sentence as Watson.
Watson looked comparable while trying to be the good little stay in the pocket and run "the system" without having 1st team attention QB in preseason.
Savage was clearly the better QB in preseason. DW4 looked bad. IMO, DW4 is at his best when the games are real and he can let his raw athleticism take over in an uncontrolled environment, with no red jerseys to protect him. Savage is the complete opposite. He apparrantly thrives with red jerseys and limited exposure in preseason games, where 1st team players are just going through the motions.Well of course it did. But all HC's prefer pure pocket passers to guys who run around inviting defenders to hit them even more. 32 out of 32 HC's don't even allow their qb's to be hit in practice for god sakes. OB is no different in that regard.
Watson got reps in TC with 1st team. I just googled it but I'm not able to copy the link on my iPad. ESPN Texans blog Aug. 14, 2017.Watson looked comparable while trying to be the good little stay in the pocket and run "the system" without having 1st team attention QB in preseason.
And this couldn't be seen from day one?
OB epic whiffed. Under one of the stairwells build a little shrine to "the system" and let's move on to someone who appreciates the player.
Watson looked comparable while trying to be the good little stay in the pocket and run "the system" without having 1st team attention QB in preseason.
I think BO'b did some good in regards to the use of DW4 but not a lot. Each week that Case Keenum and Jared Goff play well under new coaches I have to feel that their struggles were in regards to their head coaches. To me it could easily be said that Coach BO'b and Jeff Fisher are kindred spirits in regards to wasting away Qb talent.
What QB talent has BOB wasted away.
.
All of them. Which by the way he picked. But you don't like that.
He picked stop gaps, which was a mistake. He didn't pick Os though. He finally gets a qb, does well despise a suck ass ol and that's not good enough for you. If you want BOB gone because he followed Ricky's advice and didn't play Watson for the first half of the first game I can get on board with that.
I am not saying BO'b had a lot to work with but he did have one quality Qb in Case Keenum as did Jeff Fisher and it shows Case is a pretty good Qb and better than he appeared under BO'b and Jeff Fisher. Not a superstar by any means but he still showed that he was capable of more than he showed under BO'b or Jeff Fisher. Case did show signs of being able to have more success with our Texans than he did.What QB talent has BOB wasted away.
There are reasons BOB should be let go. IMHO, but your reaching on this one and your dislike of BOB is clouding your reasoning for letting him go.
The reasons he should be let go is not showing balls in the Seahawks, Pats games.
You have nothing to say OB wasn't full in for Oz.
You also have nothing to show OB didn't want the OL as it is.
Many on this MB have said that Os was a Ricky pick at the direction of McNair.
You have nothing to prove you're right either.
I just dont believe BOB is in charge of coaching the team and the draft, but it sure makes things nice and tidy when it comes to the Texans org if you believe that.
OB has come out on numerous occasions and stated he was totally on board with OS. Thy watched film and liked what they saw. Their (meaning both) mistake was not bringing him in to check out his personality prior to signing him.
I would agree with this and I even bought hook, line, and sinker that "Knows the playbook, can be our starter until Watson is ready" crap OB was selling. In the preseason you don't expect your rookie to QB the same way your 4th-year-in-the-system so-called veteran QB does but if you see a guy coming in doing all the kinds of things that Watson was doing and he's giving that more knowledgeable guy a run for his money (either in practice or preseason game situations) you gotta go with the upside and hope that just keeps on rising. If it's that close and they're comparable you go with the upside.